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2701  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does any bank accept Bitcoin? on: December 04, 2016, 02:14:00 PM
to date, there are no banks that accept bitcoin. Well, I feel that banks and bitcoin has a reciprocal nature. in the bank, the transaction whatever you do, would be very easy to know by the bank, however, in the world of bitcoin, nobody knows you're doing sending bitcoin. but, bank, and bitcoin also have much in common, but the bank has not received for the current bitcoin
Banks and Bitcoin are not reciprocal in nature, on the contrary, they are into fierce competition, because they represent two different worlds and that explains why we are yet to find one bank accepting deposits in Bitcoin. Some of the banks are trying to adapt the blockchain technology to come up with their own version of bitcoin, that is an attempt to centralize an established decentralized process and we can be sure, that won't work, because there in lies the key to the freedom that Bitcoin represents.
2702  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If a person has millions of Bitcoin and he dies one day................. on: December 04, 2016, 01:45:14 PM
The answer depends on certain things:

Did they owner share that he held bitcoin and give instructions to his family/in his will on how to gain control of them?

If he did not leave instructions and no clear way to acces them, they will likely be lost forever and go out of circulation.

Luckily the chance of such an amount being lost is insanely small because of the value.
While the chance of losing Bitcoin can never be ruled out, but someone that owns and control millions of bitcoin cannot be any Joe, Tom and Anna, etc out there, not the place of thinking about tomorrow. I strongly believe such huge amount would alert any owner of the need to be cautious, so he/she would most likely leave a trace somewhere of which time would tell.
2703  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Europe wants to ban blockchain technology? on: December 04, 2016, 08:22:12 AM
Sad news, better to prepare yourself because they will try to do something against Bitcoin. If they don't ban it, they will want fees over it. This EU should end, they disrespect the individual rights and the countrie's soberany. Everything they want is to rule, live on confort, everything with Europeans money. Demagogues and hypocrites,
It is no surprise, Bitcoin is a big challenge to all the fiat currencies out there, because it is beyond the control of anyone of those governments and which is a reason they are fighting tooth and nail to derail it. They however woke up quite late, bitcoin and its blockchain technology is done reveling the falsehood and manipulations of the governments and its agents, that money can never remain what it used to be.

If they ever get some success in dislodging bitcoin, they would only have succeeded in laying the foundation for a more sophisticated and rugged coin to take center stage, because this is really not all about bitcoin and blockchain, but more of abolishing modern day slavery from its roots.
2704  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: December 03, 2016, 08:43:33 PM
Losing is part of successfully trading. If you treat losing as part of trading then you are an experienced trader.
Sounds like a gambling philosophy, still could not ignore its meaning. One of the basic thumb rule of trading is we cannot prevent losses but we will be able to cut the losses early when it will be very small. Yes, losses also a part of trading.
I don't think it is much of a gambler's philosophy than it is trader's way up the ladder of profitable trading. Losing is inevitable in a financial market, because there are countless factors at work at any point in time in the market. Understanding just that, puts a trader in the right position to research and develop ways out of such losing proposition since the market have proven to be cyclic in nature.
2705  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin traders, why don't you just trade forex? on: December 03, 2016, 08:01:36 PM
Forex trading has very high risks than bitcoin or altcoin trading. Forex trading also requires some huge amount to start trading. Unlike in bitcoin or altcoin trading which you can start for only 1$ or lower than that depending on what you can afford. Also bitcoin or trading sites is very accessible to anyone and doesn't require some legal infos about yourself.
Forex trade can rightly be said to be riskier than cryptocurrency trade because forex trade is mainly margin trade and a trader is actually dealing with the entire economy of a country, which can be quite cumbersome compared to the economy around a coin. At any rate neither forex nor cryptocurrency trade dishes out free lunch, however a knowledgeable forex trader stands a better chance of understanding when to engage the market and when a party is spent.
2706  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Attraction on: December 02, 2016, 06:01:48 AM
I like the fact that it is a disruptive technology. We need alternatives in our lives, and Bitcoin offer us the alternative. If we only had one option for everything, that option would take advantage of their position and they would start to exploit that position. A perfect example of this is the banks. They are in a position of power, because they offered us money and now we are under their control with the debt.

The debt does not exist, because the money was created out of thin air. < If you understand, how they created that money >

Bitcoin is the alternative to many centralized payment options and also remittance services like MoneyGram/WU that are exploiting people with high fees.  

I agree. Debt is created to control people and enslave them for their life time and their children. Money is just created out of air, Governments are printing currencies out of thin air and they circulate it  among their citizens. It all just based of "TRUST". I recommend everyone reading this post to watch "Bitcoin the end of money as we know it". It is a wonderful documentary which will open your eyes.

To both you guys and anyone else. FYI, central banks and governments do not create "money" ....correctly said its "currency" ... more specifically "fiat currency" when it comes to government enforced "currency"

Examples of money ... "real money" is something like gold.
Bitcoin, by design is intended to function similarly but it has yet to prove if its a store of value over long periods of time. For now its like a "pseudo money". It definitely functions as a "currency"(mind you not "fiat currency"), jury is still out on if its "real money"
You are right, the central banks and government do not create money, the ones creating money are those adding value to the society like teachers, doctors, mason man, taxi driver, etc. Government does nothing but enslave all these people by manipulating them using money.


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Now, to why I like Bitcoin....
2 words: "Monetary Freedom"
I can do what I want, when I want, where I want, I can have as much I want ... without anyone else saying otherwise, using bitcoin.

Its technology is fascinating and one of a kind, we are all fortunate enough the "creator" left us the source code to improve upon their idea over time.
Never before in human history has something existed as versatile and free as Bitcoin - as a monetary component.
Bitcoin is a revelation and answer to the financial crisis occasioned by the government and its agents. I like that through bitcoin, the banks which serves as government's monitoring and controlling agent, can be sidelined or forced to bend. This modern day slavery, sure have to end.
2707  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: December 01, 2016, 09:49:12 PM
From my experience, cloud mining sites are worst than hyips, because you never got to recoup your money as in almost all the cases, they don.t even own a mine. Mining no doubt is profitable, but anyone interested in mining is better off procuring  his/her own equipment and managing their mines themselves, once bitten, twice shy!
2708  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Do you agree if coinbase/exchangers give the data of costumers to IRS/government on: December 01, 2016, 09:23:21 PM
Most of you say don't care, if you don't like them don't use them. But think about users that earn a lot of bitcoin every month. Operator of mining farm for example. There is no way for him to get BTC exchanged to local currency since most of guys won't accept large amounts if the tries to trade P2P. A lof of users are forced to use exchanges (any of them) and it's expected that government is going to try to take control of that

...so?  If you live in the US you have to pay taxes.  It doesn't matter how you made the money, you pay taxes on it.  I don't see the problem.
Yes i agree with you every body must be love their countries with pay the taxes, but the problem is how if the users of coinbase are from other countries except USA. It will become problem because of they are not from USA and must be giving the data to IRS, should we be trust in IRS? I am doubt about it.

If you don't live in the US or make money in the US the IRS doesn't care about you.  So you have no reason to distrust (or for that matter trust) the IRS because they have no business with you.
The decentralized and unregulated nature of bitcoin have never gone down well with the government and its agents. All through  the years, they have gotten so used to monitoring and controlling people's finances and now bitcoin could upset all that. I ended my use of Coinbase, shortly after I heard the government speak through them and I pity the ones that are stuck with them.

What is worrisome about this development, is that government from other countries are watching to see how it all unfolds and are sure to tow same line, should it see the light of the day in the U.S. I am strongly against this move and I urge all those still patronizing centralized  exchanges to please procure wisdom and understanding as the real fight goes beyond coinbase.
2709  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Arbitrage possibilities with the indian exchanges on: December 01, 2016, 08:32:55 PM

"The address mentioned on that site is 10 mins away from where I live.
So, I know that there is no Bitcoin exchange over there. " 

very strong statement that will build doubt for sure if this address that has been provided is not existing a possibility of a scam site hope no one got into the net of scammers, arbitrage is good but that big difference from current price is too suspicious better to review and and assess properly before doing any trade.

The simple statement about reviews is: "you cannot review something if you do not have any experience it."
In this case it goes: 1. trade 2. review (it cannot be: 1. review 2. trade, as you mentioned).

My experience was a pleasant one, so my review still remains positive.
In retrospect, whenever the rates  from an exchange site is a wide mark off the track, a grand scam is simply in the making - see Mtgox and Cryptsy. The fact they fixed a minimum amount to trade and as high 0.5 Btc and putting Paypal forward as payment system unless one is dealing in the region of 20 Btc, is enough red flags to decipher where all these is headed.

The fact, you have gotten away with your first transaction is no guarantee, the next would be all said and done. from experience, they won't strike yet, until a good number of gullible people are off their guard.

2710  Economy / Services / Re: Byteball Signature Campaign(Under new management) on: November 29, 2016, 04:16:57 PM
I confirm that payment for week 3 received exactly as promised! Thanks admin and manager @ Byteball Signature Campaign  Smiley

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/6a747dcf26c31c3edc3056c90c11723884c015c79000634dcd77f9c44e883ad7
2711  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2016-11-24]Bitcoin Trumps Trump, Modi, Brexit and Bolivar, Offering Investors.. on: November 29, 2016, 02:23:42 PM
That was hitting the nail right on the head. I feel for those waiting to hear the last of bitcoin, because they are in for the waiting of their lives. Juxtaposing bitcoin with fiats, we cannot miss to see that bitcoin can only get stronger, because it has what non of the fiats can boast of. It is truly an international currencies and that immunizes it from the manipulations and control by the government of any control.

I like to borrow a leaf from the concluding part of the article, think it is something every bitcoiner ought to preach, it is the dawn of bitcoin.
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Whether it is Brexit, Trump, Modi or a South American shaky currency, Bitcoin is an option that the retail investor can no longer afford to ignore and for those of you that are still not convinced, you can always wait for the next crisis to hit to become adopters.

2712  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: November 29, 2016, 04:58:19 AM
All of mine investments and futures, are just taking into considerating the bitcoin ammount spent, doesnt matter if it is worthhing 800 or 1000 dollars, my calculations are in the ammount of bitcoin, and i do believe in the general all people do the same.
but to me the value of bitcoin matter more that the amount of bitcoin, if is too good having less bitcoins with high value, that a large number of bitcoins with a little value.
Having established that bitcoin is volatile, it stands to reason that its price swings from high to low over time, so an opportunity to grab large amount of bitcoin when the value is low, is everything  to a profitable trader, because sooner than later, those bitcoin would amount to more, when the value swings to the higher side. A trader's main task is to be able to understand when a swing is ending and simply ride the wave.
2713  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: November 28, 2016, 04:41:58 AM

You guys should see what the OP is saying first and then say all this, because you all are suggesting or saying the ways that can only be done or may not be if he has a capital, but he said in clear words that he does not have any capital and he wants to get that amount without any investments.
Well it is not until one spends money on something that it can be called an investment, because every time spent there is precious and actually worth a lot of money elsewhere. It is worth even more when at the end of the day, one failed to show even a dime for the time spent in a casino and in most cases, it turns out so. because these site are from the word go, structured to make the house win.
2714  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How bitcoin is good for enterprise ? on: November 28, 2016, 04:30:35 AM
Nope it's not actually beneficial for enterprise because it takes about 30 minutes to 1 hour so it's very disappointing for enterprise it suits only for individuals and organizations which could afford to wait upto 1 hour for completion of the transaction.
The low transaction fees, security and a global payment network is a big plus for any enterprise. All that readily translates to cheap prices and wider market. Transaction time were designed to be spontaneous, but because the technology is still evolving and its network fast expanding, delays can set in. At any rate, that is transient.
2715  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So, why do we need to use Bitcoin? on: November 28, 2016, 04:18:22 AM
yeah we need to use bitcoin because bitcoin is very famous and stronger currency and bitcoin is very secure currency and maximum people want to store their money in bitcoin because bitcoin is safe currency.
how can you call bitcoin is a safe haven currency while prices dangat beganti sooner or arguably fluctuate? What do you think if someone asked about this to you?
I think bitcoin not exactly safe because the risk is high
Bitcoin as a safe haven currency is a term in trading and it simply means that bitcoin provides a worthwhile alternative investment, when the fiats and its inflationary nature begins to drive people noughts. That you can see by people pulling out their money from fiat investments or savings and turning them to bitcoin as savings or investments. A good sign of that is the increasing number of people now using bitcoin.
2716  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: WHY DO I NEED I.D. AND PROOF OF ADDRESS ?? on: November 28, 2016, 04:05:19 AM
WHY DO I NEED I.D. AND PROOF OF ADDRESS TO BUY BITCOIN ??

tried to but bitcoin at several hubs/sites
they all asked for goverment issued id and proof of address

what gives ? i thought bitcoin was anonymous ?

any suggestions ?

Companies have to comply with 'know your customer' and 'anti money laundering' laws to be able to conduct business. You can always buy in person with cash using LocalBitcoins if that works for you.
That is essentially to place a tag on you, so the authorities can have a proof of who you are and exactly where to find you if a need arise. With fiats, that has been their joker, but bitcoin has turned out a pain and spoiler for them because it has handed stolen power back to the people.
2717  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi and Bitcoin value on: November 28, 2016, 03:55:52 AM
He was such an huge mind gamer. Just with few bytes of codes he had changed the history of the world. Such an crazy invention he had done. I really salute him for his great mind. As his mind bitcoin also had gone huve popular and it's the father of all cryptocurrency

I wouldn't be so enthusiastic and bombastic

The long-term success of Bitcoin is still not set in stone. Bitcoin is used only by roughly half a million people on a regular basis, and have been likely used only by a few million people altogether. In this way, claiming that Satoshi has changed the history of the world is juvenile at worst and premature at best. Bitcoin may potentially deliver a strong financial impact of the world scale, but it is too early to tell anything conclusive or definitive yet
Some people are often referred to as visionary, because they made it seeing ahead of time and that can be very well ascribed to bitcoin and blockchain technology, Satoshi invented. There is no denying the fact that bitcoin has changed the way you and I were used to money and many more people across the globe are fast keying in.
2718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Worldwide! on: November 28, 2016, 03:44:57 AM

Thank you for the compliment brother Wink
The creator of bitcoin is really intelligent. And aside from that, he really wants to help the poor because I think bitcoin can be our road to financial freedom Smiley

I think they are against the tradition of financial system where all is centralized and regulated by authorities, and they wanted a change and bitcoin is born.  I agree that bitcoin can be one of the tool or stepping stone to one person's financial freedom  because of the different opportunities it offers.
Yeah, thats true. Government is trying to control the nature of bitcoin. But they cant. Bitcoin is our way to freedom in terms of financing. Thats why some countries banned bitcoin because they cant control it and they cant put tax in it. Cant blame the others why holding bitcoins than depositing money at banks that government can access.
The banks across the globe are virtually one and same and they have been government eyes in monitoring and controlling people's finances, but the emergence of bitcoin puts a check or limit on that and that a source for concern for the authorities and they are trying to fight it with the power. but the people are the ones that really owns the power, so globally their failure is imminent, the increasing acceptance of bitcoin is already to late to stop.
2719  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin in Russia is either banned or accepted? on: November 28, 2016, 03:32:07 AM
I think it is banned in there but people still use it at there as no one can find that who is the owner of bitcoins and who are using it in a specific country, so even with ban on it people at there are using it.
Russia made an attempt to ban bitcoin and we know the authorities are very uncomfortable with the decentralized nature of bitcoin and which is exactly, what have made them look like toothless bull dogs, because it is a losing battling, fighting something that is not regulated and decentralized. Should be a big lesson for other countries trying to toy with bitcoin.
2720  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is it illegal for me to sell my Bitcoins? on: November 28, 2016, 03:16:40 AM
I heard that some people have been arrested and charged with "transmitting money without a license" for selling Bitcoins.

Does this mean it is illegal for me to sell my Bitcoins?

Those are companies that are engaged in buying and selling of coins and you would know the authorities are very much interested in knowing  who bought what and who sold what, especially the high volume ones. The spends with high volumes draws much attention from the authorities because they would want to establish and ascertain source of fund. Anti money laundry policies are not really targeted at cryptocurrencies, but on any valuable asset out there.

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