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2721  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 12:52:14 PM
Isn't it weird there are suddenly all these bulls, with attitudes.
2722  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 12:08:24 PM
In the way I see, people holding money on gox was finally compensated with cheap coins, that's the benefits of goxing.

The bull market will resume gentlemen, and even stronger now.
Thanks. With a post like this I can take comfort in knowing that it has NOT bottomed and a bull market is NOT starting. People are still too optimistic for a bottom to have happened, and for all the wrong reasons.

Kid, you are betting Gox is history, I am betting it isn't. Simple as that.

But don't be too stubborn, always have a course of action in case you are wrong.

Or you will be one of those who will be crying why they haven't saw the bottom when it was so obvious.

For me, if I am wrong I can always sell which I do if it hits my stop loss.


No my bet is that gox news is irrelevant to whether a bottom has been found outside of gox, in either case. Gox is not Bitcoin anymore. My chart of Bitstamp doesn't show any "obvious bottom". There might be a small temporary rally (trap) due to gox panic before the next drop.
2723  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 11:57:23 AM
In the way I see, people holding money on gox was finally compensated with cheap coins, that's the benefits of goxing.

The bull market will resume gentlemen, and even stronger now.
Thanks. With a post like this I can take comfort in knowing that it has NOT bottomed and a bull market is NOT starting. People are still too optimistic for a bottom to have happened, and for all the wrong reasons.
2724  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 11:35:33 AM
So why would Stamp and other exchanges rally too? There was no information released regarding them. Stamp already fixed its withdrawals days ago. And IF gox withdrawals are fixed all it means is there are more coins on the market getting dumped into Stamp.

Because of the tighter withdrawal limits.

Exactly. And besides the market was so oversold it's looking for any excuse to go back up. I expect to see a couple green daily candles from now on and after that it mostly depends on how MtGox comes out of all this mess whether we dive back down or not.
mtgox mtgox mtgox mtgox. Does everyone have amnesia and forget that there are 20 other problems besides mtgox right now?
2725  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 11:25:13 AM
So why would Stamp and other exchanges rally too? There was no information released regarding them. Stamp already fixed its withdrawals days ago. And IF gox withdrawals are fixed all it means is there are more coins on the market getting dumped into Stamp.

Because you're short and they hate you.
Actually the most rational explanation of market movements I've heard yet.
2726  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 11:24:16 AM
I'll laugh if the megawhale just starts dumping again.
2727  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 11:22:08 AM
Judging from the responses to the news, a lot of people were short. I was too. Now I'm long (for the short term). This really can't be seen as bad news; they are saying withdrawals will be enabled on Thursday, and most of the speculation was about them not having the amount of coins that they should. I'm just worried now about the dispersion of btc from the Mega-Whale that has been dumping 1000+ per hour for a few days on gox.
Wrong. They didn't say withdrawals will be enabled on Thursday. They said there will be an UPDATE on thursday.
2728  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt. Gox's MONDAY ANNOUNCEMENT HERE on: February 17, 2014, 11:18:05 AM
I was thinking the most bullish possible thing to happen would be if gox went to 0 and then stamp started rallying. At that point gox's influences would be completely gone and the rest of the market would prove itself as independent and strong.
2729  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 11:12:43 AM
So why would Stamp and other exchanges rally too? There was no information released regarding them. Stamp already fixed its withdrawals days ago. And IF gox withdrawals are fixed all it means is there are more coins on the market getting dumped into Stamp.
2730  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt. Gox's MONDAY ANNOUNCEMENT HERE on: February 17, 2014, 11:08:31 AM
Really? They come good on every announcement? Like litecoin which was being implemented last August July April? And why is it taking them so long to fix this code when every other exchange was able to do it within one day?
2731  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 11:05:05 AM
I guess this extends the bulltrap (It was too early to go down again anyway). Then the next leg down in a week will be driven either by  (gox continues to fail) or (gox coins hit the market and are dumped on stamp etc).

Right. Because the bear market has to go on indefinitely.
Not indefinitely but there are typically two distinct waves down from the plateau which span over 2 months and the second is caused by 3 day ema downcross.
2732  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt. Gox's MONDAY ANNOUNCEMENT HERE on: February 17, 2014, 11:02:15 AM
It's bad news actually. no action. "wait another 3 days till we give you an update about our plans which should occur 'soon'". More Waiting. The same old bs. The same thing that caused a crash over the weekend. Nothing new.
2733  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 11:00:00 AM
I guess this extends the bulltrap (It was too early to go down again anyway). Then the next leg down in a week will be driven either by  (gox continues to fail) or (gox coins hit the market and are dumped on stamp etc).
2734  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 10:49:40 AM
There's no news. Gox said (( wait 3 more days till we give you our next update about something that's going to happen "soon" )) - same old bs. It was the same thing over the weekend, and it crashed...
2735  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 09:06:21 AM
What happened to "any press is good press for bitcoin"?
2736  Economy / Speculation / Re: Posslble trendlines (with charts and lines). Which one will hold? on: February 17, 2014, 09:03:50 AM
So far trends 2+3 seem very strong and that could have been the bottom, or, they could simply be serving as a bulltrap. If this recovery fizzles out or there are more bad events then this trend could eventually give way and the real bottom could be on Trend 1.

I don't agree with the red line in the post above me because it doesn't trace back to the origin of bitcoin like my Trend 1 does.



offcourse it does trace back to the origin of bitcoin trading

2 objections:

1. You're looking at gox.
2. There are only 2 points of contact.
2737  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will happen, if Gox fixes btc withdrawals? on: February 17, 2014, 08:55:43 AM
2738  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 08:52:05 AM
What is happening to Gox order book? <500 coins to 240  Huh
My graph shows 3818BTC to 240,  but they're mostly near 240.
2739  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 08:16:11 AM
Did Mark Kerpeles fly over to Slovenia, go to to Bitstamp and stick a flag in the ground? All Bitstamp does is follow gox now!
2740  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2014, 07:39:41 AM
just woke up, order book at gox looks bit better now imo.

i found this link, some kind of secret project of the mtgox founder... http://alphatesters.secretbitcoinproject.com/

anybody knows more about it?



Is that a moon?
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