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So Patrick could have signed this in front of people at the conference to show good faith and yet he didn't. I seriously doubt that he'll try to persuade Amir and Donald to sign or co-operate with the liquidator either.
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Matthew should give the shares of the company to his real debt holders not to his best friend and long time supporter Vlad. It's a private company and any transfer of interests has to be consented to by the other shareholders. They don't even have to accept any offers for Matthew's interest at or above market value - they can reject every outside offer made for his interest if they want to and use this as an opportunity to either expand their own interests in BitTalk Media or bring onboard a pet investor at a rock bottom price without diluting their own holdings. Do you really think they'd consent to Matthew's interest being transferred to and divided among tens or hundreds of people - it would make running the company a nightmare, apart from anything else. I suspect that if Matthew could do it, he'd do it just to spite Vlad at this point. |
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Why not end the NDA? Then he has nothing to hide behind right? Or is there something you don't want him to share?
Nobody with any balls worries about breaching an NDA when they're already facing being sued for everything except their first-born child. Their reaction to everything else legal has been pretty much "BFD", so I don't buy that they're holding the NDA as something sacred. |
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This letter that needs to be signed is the result of a meeting between all of us, including Patrick (who fully supported the idea by the way and said he would forece Amir and Donald to sign it)
Everyone at the conference needs to force Amir, Donald, and Patrick to sign this.
So why didn't Patrick sign there and then as a show of good faith? There is no requirement that they all sign at the same time and in the same place. I wouldn't rely on promises to "force" the others to sign when they're coming from someone who hasn't signed himself. |
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Best case scenario, we get what we ask and Matthew gets deported.
Worst case scenario, Matt gets deported for illegal online gambling.
What makes you think that either of those things is even remotely likely to happen in the real world? |
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Donald accused me of spreading misinformation and refused to sign anything until Tihan releases him from his NDA, which will allow him to "bring out the truth". Amir, was pretty stoic, had no comment on the matter other than that he didn't know what was right because he's a "programmer not a businessman", and that he'd do whatever the other guys told him to do. Patrick was not present.
What a crock of shit. He doesn't care about honouring any of his other legal obligations regarding Bitcoinica, so why does he feel obliged to uphold the NDA. And yeah, Amir has taken the advice of the others regarding this mess right from the outset. Unfortunately, when you're "not a businessman" but sign up for the legal responsibilities which come with directorships and partnerships, you're right in the legal firing line along with the actual "businessmen". |
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For the record, I have pleaded with the Intersango trio, both in person to Patrick Strateman, and electronically to all three of them to sign something like this.
All three of them have refused to date.
I hope they reconsider, and do the right thing.
I still want my 23,000+ Bitcoins back!
Did they ever file an answer to the US lawsuit or are they ignoring that too? |
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"Any sufficiently advanced parody is indistinguishable from a genuine kook."
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so they did sign the thing or not ?
They almost certainly won't. Fortunately, Tihan is prepared to seek a High Court order to put Bitcoinica LP into liquidation which means that general creditors won't have to. It will slow the process down, but it won't stop it and liquidators tend to be more aggressive towards non-cooperating principals than they are towards those who actively assist them. |
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Let's face it. It's in the best interests of anyone who believes they can successfully sue Matthew that he receives the maximum price possible for his interest in Bittalk Media. It's in the best interests of those wanting to acquire his interest in BitTalk Media that they pay the minimum price possible. Forcing him to sell at a fire sale price is actually against the interests of those people who believe they can successfully sue him over any bets he made with them.
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Well, my thought is that most of the real "scams" have already gone away and nobody is likely to try that kind of thing again.
Bwahahahahaha. A lot of "innocent investors" have turned out to be not so innocent after all, having lied to people about having no exposure to pirate. It's also likely that some people claiming pirate losses as a reason for their own default had either no exposure to pirate or less than they claim. Of course people are going to try "that kind of thing again". Hell, the whole Black Pearl thing was an obvious joke and people still wanted in on it despite pirate having just defaulted. Not only will people try that kind of thing again, they'll get away with it again. |
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Account registered just 8 hours ago, just 7 posts in and is already betting 299 BTC on vescudero paying out. Clearly a shill. Well, at least he gives the non-believers a way to put their money where their mouth is. I got a PM spam about it too, despite never having posted in Vescudero's thread. |
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There aren't that many people on the board who mis-spell "pursue" as "persue"
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Brazen little bastard, ain't he?
I used to live in Houston in the early 90's, and have made several friends, one of which is an (American) Indian, now living only 34 miles from Trendon Shaver's known address. Therefore, Threndon, since you brazenly log on and read the latest, consider this: If you don't make your presence on this forum within 48 hours, and start to do what's right, I'm giving my friend Jake (his real first name) a call. I don't think he'll mind at all driving the distance to see you and both have a beer or two on my dime to discuss the matter at hand face-to-face.
Jake and I once had a bet to see who could carry the most drywall into a commercial building, doing so at four 4' X 12' sheets at a time. He won, and I had to pay for dinner. (I was a supervisor for the largest drywall company at the time, and this was a hot order where the usual stockers were all tied up)
~Bruno~
PS: THIS IS BITCOIN!!! So, Trendon, either come here and face the music and make right, or discuss your options over beer with Jake on my dime. Your call.
I'm sure Trendon is capable of hiring armed security to deal with uninvited guests. No pesky "duty to retreat" in Texas. |
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The court date is in November and it's a civil case. There is no "prosecution" because it's not a criminal matter.
I realize y'all are taking this very seriously but I can't resist the urge to request that Judge Judy be requested to precede over this trial. She handles cases in Texas. For the publicity. and the lolz. Only up to $5,000 though. And I honestly think this whole affair has become beyond ridiculous. Not to mention the fact that pirate logged in yesterday and has no doubt read all about everyone's plans to harass his family. |
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I thought you were limited to one account.
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When is Trendon's upcoming court date? It just occurred to me that Trendon's father asking for "a couple weeks" could coincide with something (like him leaving the country, this court date that's coming up...). Has it occurred to anyone to contact the prosecution with information about what Trendon has been up to? It may be information that is useful to someone.
Just a random Friday Night Thought.
The court date is in November and it's a civil case. There is no "prosecution" because it's not a criminal matter. |
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Wasn't the $5k limit only for AUD holdings, rather than a combined BTC + AUD value?
It's vague on the website and I suspect that Andre never enforced the limit anyway. He was shonky about everything else. Default maximum account size limit is AUD 5,000; if you would like to raise this limit, please submit a Request to Support and we will guide you through the AML/CFT process as mandated under the Anti-Money Laundering and Counter-Terrorism Financing Act 2006. (AML/CTF Act) received Royal Assent on 12 December 2006. There's actually nothing in our AML/CTF Act which operates to limit the size of accounts. I'm convinced he just put that there for show. |
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Just find a hookah lounge that is bankrupt and buy that one from the bank for cheap.
Except there isn't one for sale where dank lives and he doesn't sound inclined to move in order to fulfil his dream. Not to mention that businesses usually go bankrupt for a reason and you can only turn them around if you are able to over-come whatever made them fail in the first place. |
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