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2721  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the biggest problem in crypto currencies? on: August 05, 2014, 10:40:31 PM
They haven't made me independently wealthy yet. Oh, wait, that might be my biggest problem with me.

Seriously though, the mass copycat versions is a problem. They (most of them) don't provide some improvement over Bitcoin, they just provide an alternative that people spend time and money on that will rarely, if ever materialize. They don't help with adoption either, they support the ponzi scheme fallacy. They're just a distraction.
2722  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin on Jeopardy! on: August 05, 2014, 10:38:26 PM
Is there no BTC channel on YouTube yet? We need a collection of the good pop culture references so we can send friends and family to the link with the assurance that "see, the Kardashians are doing it..."

I may start watching Jeopardy again!

The wager is kind of an insult if it isn't in BTC, am I right?

Looks like Jeaopardy is looking for a little rating boost eh.  Hey Alex you keep this up and you might just get your wish.  You scratch Bitcoin's back Bitcoin scratches your back! Wink

Seriously though I'll have to keep an eye out for a vid I'm sure I'll be posted at some point or maybe in a documentary.
2723  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin = political? on: August 05, 2014, 10:36:34 PM
Bitcoin is controlled by the 7 tribes of the northeast quadrant in Southwest Hong Kong in EastWest China.

Of course, but are they Democrat or Repbulican? Whig or Labour? ha ha
2724  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin = political? on: August 05, 2014, 10:26:58 PM
Bitcoin can embody any political beliefs that one applies to them but it doesn't represent one political ideology. It can't, it doesn't have beliefs it's just a method for trade.

Anyone comparing it to libertarian-ism may be confusing the act of capitalism with the method (or currency) through which the capitalism is facilitated.
2725  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to implement a Bitcoin like system which works only within intranet? on: August 05, 2014, 10:14:33 PM
Maybe he/she wants to set up a closed system of currency for a family, company, or group. I can think of a bunch of reasons why having a closed system of currency could be useful to a group of people.
2726  Economy / Speculation / Re: $500,000 per Bitcoin, baby. The math behind it. on: August 05, 2014, 09:58:48 PM
The net result of that transaction is neither increase or decrease. It's a wash!

In your E.g., I need to buy something on eBay for BTC0.10 so I convert $60 to BTC0.10 to buy my good. If the seller than converts the Bitcoin he received for USD again there would be no price (or supply/demand) consequence.

Perhaps eBay get's more people buying BTC to hold for future purchases, but why? If I can buy in BTC and USD and I get paid by my employer in USD, what's the reason for me to transfer to BTC? It wouldn't be more convenient. It wouldn't guarantee me a better price.

eBay BTC acceptance is good for greater adoption but that doesn't lead to "6 figure clouds" price per BTC (in USD.) There's no correlation.

There WOULD be correlation if the Winklevoss boys get there investment fund going.

You need Bitcoin in ebay before you can start dreaming on 6 figure clouds. Once Bitcoin is in ebay, then you are into something, because everyone and their mother uses ebay to buy things and they would rather use BTC than get raped by paypal fees.

How would BTC as a payment option via eBay increase the price per Bitcoin?

You have to hold them for at least a small amount of time to spend them. Worst case, they're purchased, transferred, then converted back to fiat in a matter of seconds. Still, that's a few bitcoin seconds removed from the market. Supply and demand.
2727  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Observer Effect (over $1000 by 16 June) on: August 05, 2014, 08:44:53 PM
Adjusting the channel to fit the trend you're looking for would compromise the fact base of this analysis. If you start messing with the numbers to "make them work" you've moved farther from the fact, which makes what you're looking for even less likely.

Your channel seems to be based mostly on the last two peaks. In particular there doesn't seem to be much basis for the lower part of your channel. I know it's just an approximation, but have you considered using a slightly "bendy" channel to fit the data? Over time you would expect the exponential trend to flatten out after all.

Unless to da moon literally means I'm going to be rich enough to buy the moon  Wink
2728  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Observer Effect (take 2: over $1000 by 21 July - 8 Aug) on: August 05, 2014, 08:41:05 PM
Where do people pull all this data? I can't see it going much over $700 this month, and even that would be a nice bump.

Google "MACD + technical analysis" and you'll find the technical analysis rationale that the OP is using for this. The future may never happen as this chart indicates but his thought process isn't wild, without merit, or baseless.

To the OP, where can we see this updated daily or weekly?
2729  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Observer Effect (take 2: over $1000 by 21 July - 8 Aug) on: August 05, 2014, 08:33:53 PM
The data is just pricing and time, there's nothing tricky about it.

It's the patterns that one recognizes or calls out that is completely subjective, BUT (caps on purpose) Google "Technical Stock Analysis" and you'll find tons of articles talking about the principles being used here to "predict" the future performance based on the past trends.

Where do people pull all this data? I can't see it going much over $700 this month, and even that would be a nice bump.
2730  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Observer Effect (take 2: over $1000 by 21 July - 8 Aug) on: August 05, 2014, 08:31:30 PM
I notice that the horizontal lines indicating price per Bitcoin get closer and closer together as the price reaches the next highest milestone. This causes the growth line to appear more steep, or more of a "to the moon" trajectory than the lower prices in the range. This not only makes the chart movement more sensational, but it distorts reality.

Can you re-produce the chart with equal distance between each horizontal price line?

Thanks, it's great to see some analysis!







2731  Economy / Speculation / Re: $500,000 per Bitcoin, baby. The math behind it. on: August 05, 2014, 08:26:47 PM
You need Bitcoin in ebay before you can start dreaming on 6 figure clouds. Once Bitcoin is in ebay, then you are into something, because everyone and their mother uses ebay to buy things and they would rather use BTC than get raped by paypal fees.

How would BTC as a payment option via eBay increase the price per Bitcoin?
2732  Economy / Speculation / Re: $500,000 per Bitcoin, baby. The math behind it. on: August 05, 2014, 08:26:02 PM
To say "there are no other ways" to do something almost certainly confirms that there are...let's get some data together!

The OP does not use any facts to support why bitcoin would be such a large part of the global economy. I personally think that bitcoin will be successful over the long term but I don't think it will ever reach reserve currency status which would essentially be needed to reach these numbers.

There are other ways to get close. For example, replacing gold as a store of value gets to about $100K. That likely wouldn't happen for decades though.




2733  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Can anyone help me on: August 05, 2014, 08:23:03 PM
This is not your article, but it's a good resource on this forum about wallet security. It may help answer some of your questions.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=17240.0

How did you find the article you're seeking in the first place? Was it a search on the forum? Was it a search on Google? etc...
2734  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: which is the good site to get wallet? on: August 05, 2014, 08:20:27 PM
Bank-like Bitcoin services are familiar to all of us, especially those that are just now joining the Bitcoin movement. I think it's important for these services to exist (perhaps mostly for retailers and transaction heavy users).

The risk of keeping your bitcoin address and private keys on paper at home is only slightly less risky than with an online wallet. Paper is more fragile than the internet, although it's certainly more private.

Anyone have some good ideas on how to innovate on online wallets? The market here clearly has a needed for a better option (with Blockchain arguably considered the best right now).

Use a wallet you download. A program that is the wallet. It generates a key (which has a respective bitcoin address) that's being used to spend the Bitcoins you receive in the bitcoin address of the key. That way only you can tell your Bitcoin where to go.
Bitcoin is trying to liberate people from having to rely on a bank, and still they ask where bitcoin banks are.
2735  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: which is the good site to get wallet? on: August 05, 2014, 08:15:32 PM
Coinbase has always worked well for me and if you have a question about their service they are very quick to respond.

I recently asked them about the risk of not providing the private key's for wallets to the account holder and the risk that poses if they should go bankrupt. The answer was quick, honest, and offered to escalate the question if i found the answer to not be sufficient.

I also like Coinbase's user interface...although the mobile app needs some work and they don't tally the value of all wallets, which would be a nice convenience.
2736  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do Brick and mortar merchants charge a premium to accept bitcoin? on: August 05, 2014, 08:12:52 PM
Maybe from the buyer's point of view. But the seller has the risk of the BTC conversion (to fiat) price moving. The thing to remember is that if only a few consumers/buyers are using BTC the seller may still need to charge a premium to offset the additional expense or risk they incur.

Why the hell would they do that? It's either cheaper or the same price. Nobody is going to pay more.
2737  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for annoyances transaction idea & white paper for 0.1 btc on: August 05, 2014, 08:03:13 PM
I don't know much about the topic but I'd happily help you write the white paper for the consideration of a BTC tip, should my work warrant the acknowledgement.

I have experience writing white papers I just don't know enough yet about the annoyance transactions you want to explore.

PM me...
2738  Economy / Services / Re: Escrow needed on: August 05, 2014, 08:00:47 PM
A lot of approved or trusted escrow agents don't charge a fee, they just rely on tips if the process was amicable.

I would do it to build up trust - I DON'T have a history, but there's only one way to build history and that's with the first transaction. I'd be happy to have one of the established escrow guys/gals watch over my shoulder.
2739  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lots of stores accepting BTC but it's useless if people aren't being paid in BTC on: August 05, 2014, 07:47:57 PM
I don't think it's useless.

Any exposure to Bitcoin is better than no exposure for someone who is very new to the currency.

Additionally, paying people in Bitcoin (at least in the US) represents a few unique challenges that may keep employers from wanting to do so. As an employer they have to allocate gross pay to taxes, benefits, and other government mandated items. Think about how cumbersome it would be to have to convert BTC to fiat so all of those third-party payments can be made?

Perhaps getting paid (via an employer) in Bitcoin is the greatest challenge to full adoption.

Accepting payment in Bitcoin, however, is a great, great boost to adoption. It's all useful.
2740  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Alex Jones is pro-BTC, says his store will begin to accept as payment... on: August 05, 2014, 07:32:52 PM
I guess I'll have to watch the video.

So I'm unable to watch the video right now, I'll get that confession out there.

Is Alex Jones supportive of Bitcoin? Or is he just announcing he'll accept it as payment?

Those are two different distinctions - Anyone who's in the business of making money should be accepting Bitcoin. It's so easy to accept payment and store it or convert as you deem necessary. If he's actually becoming a supporter of Bitcoin I'd be very interested to hear his comments and his take on it all.


if i remember correctly (read this yesterday), he has a coinbase account and is accepting BTC, but it's turning into fiat/cash right away. so you can send him money via bitcoin, but it turns up in cash. make of it what you will.
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