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2721  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Protocol proposal to associate a multisig 2/2 to bitcoin-themed collectibles on: January 16, 2023, 10:31:08 PM
Let's not forget about the first guy to do it .. kwerptywork or something like that? Made two releases, second one you had to guess why he picked the name for a free one.

I searched his posts (not very thoroughly Roll Eyes ) but I didn't find anything... can you tell me where it was originally posted? One of two releases is enough at least for me Smiley
2722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? on: January 15, 2023, 09:48:05 PM
it is certainly a winning strategy in some cases, because many gamblers interpret the events "on paper" and not on real facts.

Example, top player tennis player playing against a strong but average ranked player.
anyone would be pushed to play the top player, but perhaps upon closer inspection one can discover that
- the player is out of shape,
- he is preparing for a more important tournament,
- his opponent is in excellent form.
etc....

In short, it is not a system that can always work "betting against what the public thinks" but it is certainly a situation to keep an eye on.
2723  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: January 15, 2023, 09:38:30 PM
Quindi non erano dei veri wallet in un certo senso, erano "solamente" degli oggetti collezionabili contenenti dei satoshi mi pare di capire. Non che sia meno peggio perché uno scam è uno scam ma pensavo che fosse qualche wallet tipo Ledger e compagnia bella.
...

questo genere di collezionabili hanno una chiave privata protetta da un ologramma tamper proof.
in genere sono considerati dei cold wallet (con tutti i rischi che ne conseguono, nessuno si sognerebbe mai di inviare ulteriori btc ad un indirizzo del genere).

non si tratta di un produttore di hardwallet però era uno dei producer di oggetti loaded più famosi / trusted in circolazione, come puoi vedere dalla sezione collectibles, sono nate svariate discussioni sull'argomento Sad un evento che ha shoccato letteralmente un'intera comunità (sembra che abbia continuato a svuotare wallet anche dopo che si era scusato di quanto successo.... in teoria nessun produttore dovrebbe fare un backup delle chiavi private.... in pratica vuol dire programmare uno scam nel lungo periodo...)
2724  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I turned over $1.344M with Sportsbet.com - https://imgur.com/a/gFB14gl on: January 15, 2023, 09:33:35 PM
these bonuses are awarded at their discretion, and in general if you have a profit on the site and play this amount of money I don't think that the "small tip" of 100 usd could ultimately change your life.
now I don't remember why I haven't used their service for years, don't they have a vip service for customers who play substantial sums?

regarding the second part of your message "greedy companies" there is little to say, they are companies that have an interest and the sole purpose of making a profit (likewise any company!).
it is a fundamental aspect to ALWAYS keep in mind Wink
2725  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Could be a bigger challenge when market force is low on: January 15, 2023, 08:56:20 PM
it must always be considered a great variability among fans of casino games.
the ideal is to keep them all, novelties and classic games so as to satisfy all tastes.

play to earn is something completely different than the games you can find in casinos.
a revolutionary game capable of making "history" will probably come also for this field, probably just matter of time.
2726  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: January 15, 2023, 12:34:48 AM
PER CHI AVESSE ACQUISTATO PRODOTTI "COLDKEYS" E' VIVAMENTE RACCOMANDATO DI RISCUOTERE I BITCOIN CONSERVATI IN QUESTI OGGETTI!

Nel caso ve lo siate persi Sad in questi giorni c'è stato uno degli scam più "tristi" della storia dei collectibles a tema bitcoin. Forse uno degli scam più tristi di tutto il forum, visto che l'utente coinvolto era trusted, con un business avviato, molto conosciuto ... insomma un disastro!

qui potete leggere quanto successo
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434506.0

TLDR Purtroppo l'ennesima conferma del vecchio adagio "not your keys, not your coins".

Nel frattempo @gbianchi ha proposto un sistema per gestire chiavi private in questi oggetti
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434764.0
Vi invito alla lettura ed a contribuire nella discussione!
2727  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [IDEA] Removing trust from physical coin makers re: Priv Key generation on: January 15, 2023, 12:02:31 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434764.0

I would suggest to have a look into this idea proposed by @gbianchi.

long story short:
- Multisignature 2 of 2 (1 customer / 1 producer)
- Collectibles must be "broken" to access directly to private key made by producer.

even if there are some weakness and disadvantage it is a nice update/idea... I'm curious to read your comments and ideas about it...
2728  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [BLOCK 771,814 ALL SLOTS FILLED][FREE RAFFLE] MYBITS GILT BF, TWO SERIES 2 COINS on: January 13, 2023, 11:47:13 PM
771814
00000000000000000003f382a774421df2c3048ed06cbf74682fe61d81fea777
@QuakerBull 77
2729  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CSGO500 SCAM BOOKIE AVOID - PROOF INSIDE. on: January 13, 2023, 11:41:14 PM
It's note the first time we heard about such kind of issues, and well, this can be considered a "radar" bet and all bookie will void it without appeal.  (this is the reason they have specific note on their TOS).

In the past I have received some details from a bookie related an issue like this...

If it could be possible to know... what it should be the real odds for these bets = the difference between the odds played by the user and odds that was "correct"?
2730  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can players bet on their own games on: January 13, 2023, 11:26:21 PM
some soccer teams in Italy has doing this stuff, likewise "buying" the match and not "selling" as the common practice....meanwhile all staff was betting on these games...
 
Some players of soccers have done the same in the past but they have been caught... it was really famous a player caught while using benzos on the players of his team Roll Eyes
https://sport.sky.it/calcio/2011/06/01/calcio_scommesse_inchiesta_doping_cremonese_paganese
2731  Economy / Collectibles / Re: History Coldkey Cards Full Collection Holds In Total 0.1 btc on: January 13, 2023, 10:55:17 PM
do not waste time @Jcga, it is not a bet that is worth it, collect the amount immediately.

no one will want to buy objects like this because the value of btc inside these private keys is unfortunately cancelled and it's linked to a scam, a brand / company / reputation has been completely destroyed and painted with a dismal story.

then maybe you want to take this risk... but it's like you're ready to throw in the trash this btc amount.
unfortunately the loaded Coldkey objects will be very rare in the future, but I don't think it's worth the risk, nor give him the opportunity to screw even these btc
2732  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: SINBAD MIXER Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenge on: January 13, 2023, 02:06:47 AM
Prediction 2: $18.440.34
bech32 address: bc1q33tc9q86ham6qrwg8pev4t2jrnu0j4dayz7nkn
2733  Economy / Collectibles / Re: My Cold Keys Just Got Swiped! All Halving Sets!! on: January 12, 2023, 11:30:46 PM
for those interested here you can read the interview I made (vocally via discord) with yogg.
...

It feels strange to read this sentence:
...I am very proud of "halving Coldkey™" realized with Lucho Poletti. It signifies so many things, just in a single item.
I'm sure it was a simple coincidence he gave that example during the interview...



2734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is It good For The Casinos And The Accusers If .. on: January 12, 2023, 10:04:39 PM
it depends... if they have a rationale why not!
however I will be pretty surprised for a similar choice. Not just to not provide public answer here, but also to add a disclaimer! By the way, the most important think is to have a problem solved. If the solution (and issue) is public is much better also for other players that can be aware about issues/specific rules of a casino.
2735  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FREE RAFFLE - 4 Lots] Bitcoin Stickers Part. 2 on: January 12, 2023, 07:58:35 PM
88 bitbollo
thank you!
2736  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: January 12, 2023, 05:14:58 PM
nel mentre che Samsung e Blackrock fanno annunci a "tema bitcoin"
la candidata di Miss Universo 2023 di El Salvador ha utilizzato un costume ispirato a bitcoin!
https://twitter.com/PushpendraTech/status/1613417416721334272
adesso so come voglio vestirmi per questo Carnevale Wink
2737  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Notizie spazzatura su bitcoin/blockchain on: January 12, 2023, 04:58:23 PM
https://www.agi.it/economia/news/2023-01-12/inventore-bitcoin-scoperta-identita-ancora-vivo-quasi-ibernazione-19591847/
L’inventore del Bitcoin è ancora vivo (o quasi)

Italians do it better (è la classica frase che si dice per rimorchiare...)
e sembra proprio che siamo anche tra i migliori detective al mondo (ironizzo) e un nostro connazionale ha identificato chi è SN !

Su questo argomento è stato ha scritto un libro... ha venduto i diritti per un film, insomma è tutto bene quel che finisce bene. Roll Eyes


Probabilmente è uno spoiler... Roll Eyes
Quote
Per intenderci, qualche anno fa circolava con insistenza l'ipotesi per cui Hal Finney, un programmatore esperto di crittografia sospettato da anni di avere ruoli centrali nella creazione del Bitcoin, dopo aver scoperto di avere la Sla avesse speso una decina di milioni di dollari per farsi ibernare in attesa di una cura.

Più che ipotesi è certezza,
https://www.alcor.org/library/complete-list-of-alcor-cryopreservations/case-summary-a-1436/
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Hal Finney, Alcor member A-1436 who chose the whole-body option, was pronounced legally deceased on August 28, 2014 at 8:50 am at the age of 58, in Scottsdale, Arizona. That same day, Hal became Alcor’s 128th patient.

Hal, who has had cryopreservation arrangements with the Alcor Foundation for over 20 years, was Bitcoin’s earliest-ever adopter. He was the very first debugger and contributor to Bitcoin’s code and was the recipient of the first Bitcoin transaction in January 2009, receiving 10 bitcoins from Bitcoin’s possibly pseudonymous creator Satoshi Nakamoto.
ma mi auguro che abbiano fatto delle migliori ricerche per scrivere questo libro e identificare (quasi) SN!  Grin
2738  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: MEME su Bitcoin e altre cryptovalute on: January 12, 2023, 03:43:31 PM


Fonte: Bitcoin memes
2739  Economy / Services / Re: Utopia P2P Ecosystem 💎 | Review Campaign 🔎| Participate Now! on: January 12, 2023, 03:21:02 PM
Here my review, thanks joeperry and utopia staff for this chance!

The software is easy to install. Application that makes its strength on versatility and several applications.

I like the layout even if at first glance it seems somewhat confusing given the many possibilities offered by such a system. It's nice to have so many functions in a single platform, but they could be simplified and made more usable by the end user.
It would be interested having a guided tour or a tutorial...

The idea is really interesting... but I wonder if the code is open for review and if its functions have been audited? the same applies for stablecoins (has I have already seen same question has been made by another user...)

I have visualized the function of groups and chats, but in practice there are very few active groups and local "Italian" groups practically equal to 0 although they have already been active for some time.
it would take new groups, promotions, activities to introduce new people into these groups.

it would be interesting to have an exchange inside the application (without having to go to a browser).
I'm wrong but there is no btc/crp pair?
a partnership with more famous exchanges that offer greater liquidity would certainly be needed.

I tried to use the 5 CRPs to play poker, but there are no open tables (practically none).
It would be interesting to have basic tables (perhaps daily tournaments) so as to attract a few players (why not, even sponsorships for the various tournaments).

I tried to play chess, but you can only add players from your contacts. it would be more interesting to play casual games even with players who are not in your contact list

The idea of a crypto card, basically a sort of alias for making payments, is very interesting.
Here you will find 5 0,99 USD codes that I generated, make good use of them (I haven't found ways to spend them...)
Code:
15:47 UTP-LRUC-OZYP-KFE6-SG5N-IBTP  0.99 CRP
15:47 UTP-RDFV-UX7Y-GL3S-O4WJ-KPEL  0.99 CRP
15:47 UTP-KY4R-OLIB-HCVP-MQ5N-3ZW3  0.99 CRP
15:47 UTP-EROC-N4IB-YU5W-FAMG-6X7R  0.99 CRP
15:47 UTP-GSP7-XJEH-BR2W-ACIT-NYMR  0.99 CRP
Interesting function!

The part that I found critical is linked to the last point of the "merchants" possibility of purchasing / spending through the application. There is no collection service Sad ok not a problem you can do without it though...

but...point 1 for adult services, should a disclaimer be included for minors under 18?

the real problem lies here:
point 2 there are a lot of clearly scam sites Roll Eyes .
Without going into detail, I've seen a lot of ponzi, hyip, betting sites with the reputation of being full-blown scams, in short ... can any service join? Wouldn't it be nice to do some clean?
ok freedom of speech and expression, but I think the first aspect to take into account is the reputation of the platform and safety for end users.
obviously those who find a site listed think it is official/reputable etc... there is the risk that it could become a sort of eden for scammers...
even if the system is left "free" anyone can join, for example you could insert a reputation/trust system that allows you to avoid promoting scams...

general opinion (summary):
The idea is interesting and has a whole range of potential that can be exploited. I would "make order" by enhancing some functions and excluding some really questionable services or merchants Wink
2740  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [NEWS] In italiano - Raccolta di link dei media in lingua italiana on: January 12, 2023, 01:29:30 AM
https://www.bluerating.com/fondi-e-polizze/777075/fondi-per-blackrock-il-bitcoin-ora-e-un-investimento-ammissibile
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