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2721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 on: January 24, 2022, 08:26:05 PM
Preparation is the key here for both boxers. Thurman is the favorite by bookies.
But yes, upset can happen to any boxer. Just look at the recent Russell vs Magsayo match.
So now, we will see how prepared both of them when they are inside the ring.
We don't know what kind of training and strategies are they preparing for this fight.
But I may favor Thurman here to be the winner of his comeback fight.

Even in any fighter preparation is definitely one of their keys to successfully winning their fights. I do hope Thurman have had fully recovered from his injury and yeah he is also my bet in this upcoming fight not just because he is the favorite by the bookies but also because this man is a good fighter. May this upcoming fight be his good comeback fight though I can't set aside that Barrios is such a good fighter too and probably this man did his best also to prepare for this fight.

What was the injury you are talking about? I can't remember about his injury after he fought Pacman, I think he looks great on Pacman's fight, it's just that Pacman did better so he won via split decision. What Thurman needs going to his fight is a proper training, he has the skills and talent already, he just need to condition himself to win.
The only injury I had remember with Thurman after the Pacquiao fight is in his hand. That's one reason why he went out after that lost to Manny to get his hands operate and let it fully heal as we all know that our bones in our hands are brittle.

There are even news that he has rib injury as well weeks before the Manny fight that's why when Manny hits him in the side and in the body, Thurman is affecting and you can see because he backs up and then started to cover his stomach.

Thanks, that's a clear explanation, now I know why he was out for awhile. Well, now that he is back, I expect that he is fully healed and he can be his old self again. Thurman is going to reclaim his popular status, losing against Pacman, a legend isn't that bad because it was a close one, but if he still loses here, then I think it will be hard for him to become a champ again.
2722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 on: January 24, 2022, 01:43:45 PM
Preparation is the key here for both boxers. Thurman is the favorite by bookies.
But yes, upset can happen to any boxer. Just look at the recent Russell vs Magsayo match.
So now, we will see how prepared both of them when they are inside the ring.
We don't know what kind of training and strategies are they preparing for this fight.
But I may favor Thurman here to be the winner of his comeback fight.

Even in any fighter preparation is definitely one of their keys to successfully winning their fights. I do hope Thurman have had fully recovered from his injury and yeah he is also my bet in this upcoming fight not just because he is the favorite by the bookies but also because this man is a good fighter. May this upcoming fight be his good comeback fight though I can't set aside that Barrios is such a good fighter too and probably this man did his best also to prepare for this fight.

What was the injury you are talking about? I can't remember about his injury after he fought Pacman, I think he looks great on Pacman's fight, it's just that Pacman did better so he won via split decision. What Thurman needs going to his fight is a proper training, he has the skills and talent already, he just need to condition himself to win.
2723  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: January 24, 2022, 01:13:09 PM
^^ That's why AD is still the missing link in the puzzle for the Lakers.

He is still on the injured list so they are terribly missing his services right now as others that is expected to help Lebron is not stepping up or very inconsistent.

Only Lebron is doing very hard for the team, but we all know that he can't do it by himself. Malik Monk only scored 7 points , THT 5 points. And those two should be like at least 15 each in this game to help Lebron.

I thought Davis will be able to come back in this game, but he didn't make it, maybe next game he will be coming back as the Lakers badly need him for them to start winning consistently. As we all expect, Lakers can't beat a good team or a playoff team and they fall to the Heat this time.

The Lakers will win consistently If AD will be consistent in his return as well. Remember how bad AD was playing before he got injured. The guy seems contented with just 1 ring and stopped being competitive. I hope that's not gonna be the case once he return, because this Laker team has really became hopeless, and only AD's return is the most anticipated thing for the Lakers to possibly put a turn around with their current situation.

Maybe not good as he was in the past season, but his contribution is very vital for the team's success. They are called a big 3, all the Lakers need to do now is to secure a playoff spot, and they'll eventually become a dangerous team in the playoffs. AD and Lebron have won a championship before, with Westbrook added in the lineup, that's more firepower to the team.
2724  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: January 24, 2022, 12:10:40 PM
The game will proceed, we are waiting for announcement and soon it will resume back.  Roll Eyes Wink

I just can't remember where i read it but i'm pretty sure that the PBA will be back in action on the first week of February as it gets the unanimous nods from the board of Governors to resume the games, in fact the IATF has allowed team scrimmages this week.

Besides, covid cases in the NCR is dropping and health experts have predicted that things will be back to the pre-omicron status by March so we can expect crowd to be back in the arena this March or April.

I'd love to see the result, and I'm optimistic that it will happen because it's been a while now since the PBA is halted. The conference has to resume as for me this conference is a very competitive one, it's hard to predict on what team will win the championship.
2725  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match on: January 24, 2022, 05:34:03 AM
I think Errol Spence Jr. will open up his odds higher than Yordenis Ugas and will be the best favorite,

It's the other way around. Ugas will have the high odds and Spence is something like @1.2-1.5 as a Favorite.

Ugas is the heavy underdog and if we will convert the sample odds shared above maybe around @3 will be given to him

Much better to bet on Knock Out or Decision.

That's a tough one for Spence because Ugas has never been KO, so probably the odds is high, maybe around 1.90 or more, but it's a good odds. However, I think Spence would not be so aggressive as he was coming from an injury, so that feeling of high confidence might be affected and we might see the other way around.
2726  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: January 24, 2022, 04:59:28 AM
^^ That's why AD is still the missing link in the puzzle for the Lakers.

He is still on the injured list so they are terribly missing his services right now as others that is expected to help Lebron is not stepping up or very inconsistent.

Only Lebron is doing very hard for the team, but we all know that he can't do it by himself. Malik Monk only scored 7 points , THT 5 points. And those two should be like at least 15 each in this game to help Lebron.

I thought Davis will be able to come back in this game, but he didn't make it, maybe next game he will be coming back as the Lakers badly need him for them to start winning consistently. As we all expect, Lakers can't beat a good team or a playoff team and they fall to the Heat this time.
2727  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 on: January 23, 2022, 12:34:32 PM
Not only the bookies will win, but there are also some bettors who would bet on Barrios as not everyone is convinced that Thurman will win. The more active fighter here is Barriors, and Thurman is coming from a long lay off, so the ring rust might affect his performance.
Bookies will always win but not from the bet of the gamblers as they just only accept bets or a 3rd party to hold our bets and they make money from commissions, they don't bear the risk of being a sports book as they always make money from the juice of the gamblers. Also, they have the edge, so even if you will bet on parlay or whatever style of betting you have, you'll never take advantage on them.
2728  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Gary Russell vs Mark Magsayo WBC Featherweight Title on: January 23, 2022, 12:10:48 PM
Congrats to the winners, I see that most of the posters here were betting on Magsayo, you enjoy the day.  Smiley

That was so lucky for Magsayo, Rusell got injured so he took advantage of it.
If Rusell wasn't injured, I think Magsayo might lose in this fight because the scorecards result were very close, one judge even score a draw.

He got lucky the 2nd time around, the last match, he was lucky he hit his opponent with a solid punch that resulted in KO, this time he got the champion injured so it was easy for him to attach the beat the champion. Magsayo should be enjoying his success now, but next time he should improve his defense and his footwork, he needed that against a stronger challenger.

In the last match, its not luck it's a knockout waiting to happen Magsayo possesses a knock out power and Ceja is moving close without much defense and in this match, Russell throws an awkward punch that resulted in a shoulder injury because Magsayo has a good movement that made him throws an awkward punch, Magsayo is fast and posses a power, although it could be different results if Russell did not hurt his arm.

I agree, Magsayo may not be a complete fighter but his power is very dangerous, he could struggle in the early rounds but he knows how to keep his stamina and that he still have some power to knock out an opponent, that's exactly what we saw in his fight against Ceja.
2729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: January 23, 2022, 10:09:19 AM
Many might agree with me that the Phoenix Suns are the most balanced team right now in the league.
I agree. This is the magic of Chris Paul. He did it in Clippers, Rockets, and Thunders. Who would have thought that OKC will be in the playoffs after that big trade with Westbrook. The basic thing that would happen is the team will have problems with chemistry and cooperating with him but that wasn't the situation. CP3 made it look like they are on one team for a very long time.  Grin
Next to it is GSW. Both teams that are on top have a high level of chemistry and next to them also has that kind of bond Memphis Grizzlies. It's amazing how they climbed the ladder from being on the lower seeds and now at the top 3 of the West.
They are so far the most balance team because they have good chemistry, just recently the Warriors are struggling but when they are in tune, I still think they are better than the Phoenix Suns. For now, I give it to the Suns but when playoffs come, it will be a different story.
2730  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Gary Russell vs Mark Magsayo WBC Featherweight Title on: January 22, 2022, 02:50:19 PM
Even the last time i checked the bookies' bets i saw that magsayo is very clearly the underdog.
with this and indeed I feel that magsayo is worth betting on, I have no doubts about it.
as you said, he still has a long way to go and indeed his technique is also very good and even better he is also a person who can withstand hitting.
I feel even though the match will be tough but still Magsayo will be the final winner in this fight.

Yes, there are no change in the odds despite Russell's announcement that he is somewhat suffering from an undisclosed injury. And Russell said that he appreciate Magsayo because he has accepted this fight and he Magsayo is fighting for the Filipino people to bring honor to his country. I guess he is referring to Leo Sta Cruz who undoubtedly is not willing to fight Russell at this point. Both are champions but it seems that someone is not willing to put his belt on the line. So still have time to put our bet on the underdog Magsayo as it he is still a huge underdog at 3.90.
even with him saying that he had an injury would only make magsayo even more superior.
apart from him being uninjured, Magsayo is already in the lead, especially now that Russell is injured.
the possibility of magsayo being superior is increasingly open and more confident in the victory of this bet.
with me saying things like this doesn't mean i underestimate russell because i know russell is a pretty good boxer but compared to magsayo he still can't be compared
I don't think we should talk about the injury as it seems like it wasn't serious enough, if it was, then most probably the odds have changed already, but look at the betting odds now, it's almost the same it was first open and prior to the rumors that the champion had an injury.
2731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: January 22, 2022, 02:32:31 PM

Maybe it's really too much of superstars in the line up, experienced and old but not contributing as well as expected like WB and Carmelo.

It's not too much, an NBA player is called a superstar  if he is talented enough, without the proper guidance, a player will never be effective, so what I'm seeing here is the problem not coming from the player's side, it's from the coaching side.

Coach has a major responsibility to make the team better, he has the talents needed to win a championship but he was not able to utilize them effectively. Maybe some people have a different view, some blamed a player or players, while some blame it solely on the coach, whatever their opinion, it will not help to make the Lakers great this season, they have been struggling with very little improvement, so I think their chance is pretty low.
2732  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match on: January 17, 2022, 09:49:01 PM
If in case, this will be another upset. That would be a terrible one for Spence Jr.
But in this fight, Spence Jr has a lot of advantages over Ugas.
This is why we are seeing that people are favoring Spence Jr over Ugas.
I believe even bookies will favor Spence here once they release the odds.
But would be interesting to watch as they fight for these unification belts.

Looking forward to that upset honestly Smiley I mean, what will be the reaction of the boxing community if Ugas will able to upset the heavy favorite Spence Jr.  It's a news that mostly won't be expected by anyone knowing Ugas is considered as a bonus round for Spence.

But the fact that Ugas defeated Pacquiao, I really considered it as a good achievement and not taking the reason that Pacquiao is already old. It's a bullsh*t reason for me that Ugas got that win because of that reason.

It will send another shockwave in the boxing community and in this division as everyone is jockeying for the position as the top dog. So if Ugas wins then definitely, he should be recognized as one of the best and he only have Crawford to defeat to claim the title of being the top 1 in the division.

Although Thurman is coming back, he doesn't have any belt so no bargaining power for him. He could fight Ugas but he should be the B-side then.

That will probably put Ugas at the top 1 as he will be holding multiple bet if he wins this fight. Crawford on the other hand would be happy as he only has to fight one fighter and will become a unified champion. Thurman is also willing to challenge the champion if he wins in his upcoming fight, so if Ugas will win here, he has a lot of option to fight with.

There's no reason he will not be in the number 1 as he would be holding 2 belts that time. Crawford would surely be interested to fight Ugas as he would think he can beat Ugas since he beat the guy who beat Ugas, and that is Shawn Porter. If we see the fight of the best of the best, that would really be a big treat to the fans as we will see who will be the undisputed champion.
2733  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 on: January 17, 2022, 09:25:46 PM
If there will be unification fight that will happen in the future,

There is one, the fight between Spence and Ugas is a unification fight.

Ugas is currently the WBA welterweight champion while Spence is the WBC welterweight champion.

reference :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/541777 ..https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/629465

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Crawford is just waiting because he is the current WBO welterweight champion.
2734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: January 17, 2022, 08:35:31 PM

If he gets a lot of followers, then that's another income for him. Most of the celebrities now have youtube channels already, and I think Casimero already considered himself a celebrity in boxing because he is a champion and he wants to be an undisputed champion in his division if given a chance to fight with his fellow champions.
He knows that, an extra income plus extra exposures to him. He understands the value of streaming in his career, not to the point of comparing but like what you have said celebrities have their own video streaming channels not limited to YouTube but all those available platforms, if he can use this platforms to call or to attract more fans, it will be easier to him to gain the attention of Inoue and his camp.

he can bring more trash talks and force Inoue's fans to bring the attention to him,.

We know how smart Casimero in terms of attracting everyone's attentions.. Roll Eyes Tongue

Not only smart in marketing his fight but also very smart in the ring, that's maybe the reason why Inoue still has not accepted the challenge because of the chances that it could ruin his undefeated record. This year should be the year for a big success of Casimero, just one fight with Inoue and we will see the biggest fight in bantamweight division.
2735  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: January 17, 2022, 07:46:42 PM
There is half an hour left for the game that is Cleveland Cavaliers v Brooklyn Nets. There is some bad news for Nets as Irving and Durant both are injured now and will not play. This means that the responsibility is on James Harden mostly. And they are going to face a very difficult opponent also. Because Cavaliers have been winning for four games in a row. We see them having only one less win than Nets and at the sixth place in the conference now. Nets defeated them once in this season and in this court by 117-112. And they might do this again.

Durant's injury might be crucial for the success of the Nets. Hopefully everything is alright with him and he will come back soon.
Kevin Durant (left knee sprain) set to undergo MRI, while Brooklyn Nets 'hope for the best outcome'

He's been the MVP for the team, without him the Nets chances of winning the championship is probably not so high because Irving and Harden might not have a good chemistry. Without Durant, Cleveland will win this game.
2736  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any Social Betting Platform that allow to copy a bet? on: January 17, 2022, 01:55:22 PM
That sounds new to me, most of the platforms I joined are just betting forums, they have some members who are sharing tips and they have good records, I just follow and that's it. About the reward thing, I'm not sure if there's some platform that do exist, it would be nice if there's one so successful tipster will be rewarded for his/her generosity.
2737  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: January 17, 2022, 12:49:07 PM
I wonder what the imports are doing now lol. This long break is not their usual. I mean, they like to play and play no matter what. It's like their time is being wasted here in the country as nowhere to do but to chill and relax. They are surely bored now since PBA has no update yet when to return. The expectation for NLEX to reach the Finals of this conference is getting longer.
yeah, there's no news regarding the import, maybe they have already gone back to their country because the chance of the PBA season to resume is very dim. Sorry to say, but since the cases argrowing fast, I'm not expecting a resumption soon.

Yes right, but if the Staff of PBA decided that all the imports will be back to their respective country  I think that's a good decision in order to prevent them from illness/prevent them from missing their family too. Cause if they are still here there's a chance that they will get infected from this omicron cause we all know that it is very speedy in terms of spreading.
They will be infected but that doesn't mean they'll suffer from it, they have a high immune system so probably they can resist the effect of the virus. It's all up to the management now and the team owners if they will stop the season and send the imports to their homes. here's the logic, if they'll send the imports back, then consider the season cancelled already.
2738  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: January 17, 2022, 11:00:14 AM
It's really interesting as where Simmons will go, I guess some of us wanted to see him play this season.

We are about to find out soon, hopefully in a team that has a chance to be in the playoffs so we will see him play against his former team and I would be happy if he can prove them wrong in making a decision to trade him. With a talent like his, he deserves to be in a good team and I hope that will happen so soon.

Well its good if some playoff contender team will get him, nevertheless a losing team this season will not be bad for Ben, as long as he can play.

Then start a clean slate next season with a new team, form a bond during off-season and then proved that the Sixers make a bad decision (although Ben has partly to blame with his current situation with the team).

His talent will be wasted if he will not play in a playoff team, the real test is in the playoffs, he needs to improve in the playoffs so he can tell the people who are still criticizing him that he has matured and he has become a clutch player. The problem is, people always look at one mistake without seeing what Simmons can do in a team in all ends.
2739  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: January 17, 2022, 09:52:47 AM
It's really interesting as where Simmons will go, I guess some of us wanted to see him play this season.

We are about to find out soon, hopefully in a team that has a chance to be in the playoffs so we will see him play against his former team and I would be happy if he can prove them wrong in making a decision to trade him. With a talent like his, he deserves to be in a good team and I hope that will happen so soon.
2740  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 on: January 16, 2022, 03:06:51 PM
Thurman is sporsbet guy? There is no contest to that yet but I think because he is already in the division before Barrios climb up making him look as if the challenger. 2.24 is like undermining Barrios skills. Although he will be adjusting the body weight, Barrios is younger and eager to prove in this class while was off the grid from some time.
Yeah, Thurman is the favorite but you can also choose Barrios if you feel he will win the fight. He got some skills that's why he only has one loss and that is against Davis which is a knockout puncher. Thurman is a mature guy in boxing and he also has a good KO percentage, so it's really up to you to weigh things and decide what fighter you'll put your bet.
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