I am ball-parking here, but most of my antminer's are well on track for profit.
Antminer #1: 4.75BTC batch - returned approximately 4.3BTC and then sold for roughly 160% the cost of ordering a new one in the 1.9BTC batch (minus ~0.5BTC) for lost mining time) = ~4.8 BTC total plus funded antminer #6 that has been mining for about 10 days Antminer #2: 4.25BTC batch - returned approximately 4.0BTC and then sold for roughly 160% the cost of ordering a new one in the 1.9BTC batch (minus ~0.5BTC) for lost mining time) = ~4.4 BTC total plus funded antminer #7 that has been mining for about 10 days Antminers #3&4 : bought in the 3.15BTC batch IIRC, returned a significant portion and then sold the same way as those above to buy Antminers #8&9
Antminer #5 : bought at 2.2BTC and well on track to return a profit - I would ballpark that it has mined almost 1BTC already Antminers #6+7 : bought at 1.9BTC, arrived ~24th and have mined at least 0.5BTC each Antminers #8+9 : bought at 1.9BTC, arrived ~27th and have mined at least 0.33BTC each Antminers #10+11 : bought at 1.9BTC, arrived ~28th and have mined at least 0.3BTC each
Basically the first 2 antminer purchases almost entirely funded 6/7 of my current antminers I have in place, and also ~$1500 cash to balance out my investments
In my mind, the current 1.45BTC batch may be a little bit too pricy if it does not ship until the 8th and arrive the ~12th. ordering now guarantees an added 3-5 days before they ship the *presumably sizable* list of orders placed during CNY, and that may not be enough time to break much if any profit from the systems.
A 1.1BTC unit that ships on the 20th would be a good deal IMO
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I can pay max 0.2 usd per 1 Gh, because difficulty jumps very aggressive,
idiot. you posted the exact same thing in another thread too. You basically are saying that $36 is a fair price for an Antminer S1, despite the hundreds of users who say otherwise and are paying ~$1300 (a fair price) I should give you a bitcent so that you can go buy a proper calculator, because it wont buy you 50GH
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IMO, if the 20nm can absolutely positively be online WELL before the 55nm stuff is useless, with room for error. Then 20nm is a better move than playing catchup on 28.
We seem to sort of "own" a chip team as part of the 55nm deal and some IP involved with that, if they think they can do 20, and we're not losing much since 28 seems back to scratch anyway because eASIC seems to have failed us, then let's do 20.
It might be a longer term thing than some shareholders would like, but next year, 28 might look stupid when we could have had 20. 20 might keep us earning into 2015, 28 might crap out in Q4 this year.
I think its important to look at the competitors - its clear that chip design trumps size. Bitfury 55nm : 0.8-1.1W/GH Antminer 55nm : 1.9-2.2W/GH ASICMINER 40nm : 0.4W/GH or less compared to most 28nm designs being in the 0.6-0.9W/GH range and KNC promising ~0.3W/GH at 20nm It seems obvious that the silicon design is more important than its size, since Bitfury's 55nm technology is competitive with chips much smaller than it. Asicminer is making promises of a 40nm chip that will beat out current 28nm designs and compete with the KNC 20nm design even
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only trick is that you need to wire up most of the power BEFORE you cram everything into the cabinets, especially if you use the screw terminals
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I can personally say i refrained from purchasing due to poor business tactics(price gouging) by MBP...
+1. I have 7 bitfury cards in my septemer starter kit and 7 antminer S1s - Bitfury accounts for only 15% of my hashing power, almost exclusively because there is no reason to buy more boards when they are so horribly overpriced. 5 of the boards I have I got for free because my september kit was one of the delayed batch and I had to wait months until a viable opportunity to use my store credit Whoever is in charge of business strategy clearly doesnt care about selling to the public, or is only concerned about the private mining facility
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I can pay max 0.2 usd per 1 Gh, because difficulty jumps very aggressive,
what are you smoking? You want to pay $36 for a 180GH antminer? go soak your head
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Isnt 4.75 btc a lot considering the new batch is 1.45btc which is shipping in a few days? I am close to canada so local is an idea but the price is too crazy for me. I could see charging a slight premium but damn good luck selling them.
I will entertain offers of 4.50BTC, but you must remember that an order placed *now* with bitmain will be at the back of the queue and likely not ship until the ~13th and arrive till the ~17th. Power supplies are included and the units are overclocked stably already. I am charging a premium for this utility, and am the cheapest option on the Toronto Craigslist
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this is for 4 antminers? is shipping included?
The price is for a crate (2 antminers). I have multiple crates available though. shipping is not ideal, since the crates are large and add bulk. I am really looking for local buyers on this ad, unless you want to cover whatever the cost is to ship a 12"x14"x12" item that weighs around 20lbs
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Weekly Update 2/5/2013
This last week has been very busy with our Project manager and engineers working with eASIC on our 28nm custom chip. We have receive the first results back and the chip is expected to run at 30 GH/s, we are working on improving this number. Also, we have received the quote on our PCIe board and our project manager and engineers are meeting with eASIC and our board engineers this week to keep our project on track. We are also meeting with UMC to finalize our account setup. We are also thinking about going to a 20nm custom chip and skipping the 28nm, if we can get it produced fast enough.
totally meaningless drivel. switching processes increases risk and cost, and changes some of the fundamentals of electronics engineering. to say 30GH on a chip is also meaningless. KNC, Cointerra, Hashfast all created big-die chips that are capable of 10x that per chip, but use less chips. The important number is how many GH in how small a space
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... 6. your projection shows essentially 1.7MW of power usage for those chips. that takes into account the chip power usage only. what are the additional projected power needs for all the other equipment?
At this time, we don't have a projection on the boards power; however, the chips consume >98% of the power.... BULLSHIT. Power supplies have a 10-20% loss, and cooling is usually calculated at about 40% of the power usage. 1.7MW of chips will actually draw closer to 2.5MW
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you cant really compare bitfury and antminer, when antminer uses double the power.... the market sets the price..... so as long as people are paying what bitfury asks.... then the price is fair.... when people are no longer buying..... the price should drop..... basic economics..... if you are selling something at $400, and people buy it.... why would you drop the price?
At 15 cents per kilowatt hour, the Antminer only uses ~$20 more in electricity per month at ~200 GH/s, so clearly BitFury gear should not command such a large price premium. Exactly, 20 a month isn't anything to get the miner now and cheap! I bought 1 antminer at 4.25 four at 2.25 I will get crazy with it at 1.45, And the antminer is standalone, no backplane no rasberry pi no sd card. Just plug it in and program it, then leave it alone. I would think that when bitmain was doing slow releases with group buy and auction, bitfury had more business because of shorter supply and they were the same price per gh, I would assume now they are going to have to get more price competitive to keep in the game. +1. Even if the bitfury was price-competitive (factoring in a small premium for lower power draw), it is not a plug-and-play system. it needs tweaking, has trouble standing upright, and seems to obliterate SD cards just a little too frequently. I had a power outtage for 1hour, and all the antminers came back online without a problem. the bitfury sat for almost a day because it fried the SD card (second card it has totally trashed, not just corrupted) and I had to go and purchase 2 new cards for it. This might be a little bit more complex to setup, but have you looked into booting the Raspberry PI off of a NFS network share (network booting essentially). This way constant writes or power outages will not kill your sd cards. that might not be a bad idea, but it would still require an SD card in the rPi, which seems to be the weak point in any case. plus, I use a laptop so probably not a solution if i am jumping around the house and/or leaving the network at times. Once its up and running its fine - its just the power changes that kill the cards so I leave the system to do its thing undisturbed
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Looking to sell a bit of my loud + noisy collection. here I have some stacking crates for sale, each one has 2 antminers and 1 or 2 server power supplies capable of running them overclocked. IN-HAND NOW! Multiple units are available In-hand right now in downtown Toronto or in Markham I have pre-configured pairs of units for sale. It is 2 antminers plus powe supplies fit securely in a stackable storage crate. Basically as plug-and-play as you will get, just needs 2 power outlets and 2 ethernet connections - overclocking is already optimized for the system at roughly 195-202GH looking for 1.5BTC for a single crate or 2.8BTC for both Can also sell single antminers (tested, overclocked)
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this got moderated from the official thread - lol the license plate is 'ACTM 911' - seemed fitting
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I just wanted to post a bit of a numerical update to give some idea of where this project is headed.
Based on toronto hydro commercial rates, including all the (bullshit) extras like debt reduction, delivery, meter cost, etc : ~$0.14/kWh
add in the cost of renting,insuring, and securing a small 20kW/h facility -> ~0.20/kWh for equipment hosting " " " " " " 40kW/h facility -> ~0.17/kWh for equipment hosting
if you compare with residential rates; with all the residential fees/tarriffs included -> ~0.17/kWh to mine at home. This means that it is feasible or even ideal to create such a localized facility. Pushing the power requirements towards 60-80kW/h (not at all unreasonable by the end of 2014), costs would be less than mining at home, and would include hosting.
Right now, hosting would be relatively basic. I picture a 15'x15' security cage within the rented space that is monitored by a few IP cameras (recording to off-site HDDs) and has multiple 120V and 240V circuits on 12AWG wire (20A/circuit) or better. UPS/generators are not part of the initial scope due to the associated costs, largely because brownouts/blackouts are uncommon to the area - maybe a dozen 0.5-3hr outtages per year on average - and would be experienced in an at-home setup anyways.
for hosting, there would likely be a small setup fee depending on the difficulty of the equipment. For example, $40 to setup an antminer and $80 to setup a bitfury. Once more details are laid out, I feel like the best approach would be to invite a few existing miners to relocate thier equipment to the facility to test it, followed by a groupbuy for the best available hardware (antminers?) with clearly-written terms including how long it will be hosted (based on time or based on a profitability equation in case BTC value rises and the devices continue to be profitable past July)
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My Antminer shuts down after like 20 seconds. I have tried everything I can think of. Tried all wires I can think of to connect the green and black wires. Tried paper clip and whatnot. Tried running only 1 blade. Tried cutting the green&black wires and connecting that way. Tried several PSUs from 650 to 1250W Anyone? if your PSU and antminer turn on fine, then the PS-ON jumper isnt the issue (assuming it isnt randomly wiggling loose, but then it would cycle on and off a LOT! sounds like the issue is your antminer if multiple PSUs cause the issue, but im not sure why. try switching the control board to the secondary hashing board and run only that side of the unit. also, take a multimeter and measure the voltage at the screw terminals. if its outside of 11.8-12.3V you could be having issues
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you cant really compare bitfury and antminer, when antminer uses double the power.... the market sets the price..... so as long as people are paying what bitfury asks.... then the price is fair.... when people are no longer buying..... the price should drop..... basic economics..... if you are selling something at $400, and people buy it.... why would you drop the price?
At 15 cents per kilowatt hour, the Antminer only uses ~$20 more in electricity per month at ~200 GH/s, so clearly BitFury gear should not command such a large price premium. Exactly, 20 a month isn't anything to get the miner now and cheap! I bought 1 antminer at 4.25 four at 2.25 I will get crazy with it at 1.45, And the antminer is standalone, no backplane no rasberry pi no sd card. Just plug it in and program it, then leave it alone. I would think that when bitmain was doing slow releases with group buy and auction, bitfury had more business because of shorter supply and they were the same price per gh, I would assume now they are going to have to get more price competitive to keep in the game. +1. Even if the bitfury was price-competitive (factoring in a small premium for lower power draw), it is not a plug-and-play system. it needs tweaking, has trouble standing upright, and seems to obliterate SD cards just a little too frequently. I had a power outtage for 1hour, and all the antminers came back online without a problem. the bitfury sat for almost a day because it fried the SD card (second card it has totally trashed, not just corrupted) and I had to go and purchase 2 new cards for it.
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I was trying to use the 'Restore to default' setting in my ANTminer today and it restarted automatically like it was supposed to but it doesn't let me log in. I shows the black LuCi screen and then moves to a page cannot be loaded screen.
I am tried used the hard reset by jumping the wires but it does not work.
Anyone else have this same problem?
the luci screen will load due to your browser cache - the actual antminer IP likely changed when you reset. try 192.168.1.99 or 192.168.2.99 if that does not work
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Hi do you have any advice how to split AntminerS1 hash power? For example 4*50 GHs? Is it possible? thanks
not possible.
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Anyone here had any luck bruteforcing a Dogecoin wallet? Sure could use some help in that category. Willing to do some tipping as well for any help!
If you have any memory of the key you used, just use the program above. it wont work with an armory wallet will it? I have 1BTC locked up and none of my common passwords seem to be the match
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Hi everyone -
Just a heads up that our M-boards were delayed due to Chinese New Year. They should be in by Feb 21st. H-boards are in stock, though.
when will there be a price reduction - or better yet pricing in BTC? An h-card that is rated at 25GH and capable of ~33GH is only worth around 0.25 BTC or $200 right now based on your competitiors such as Antminer (180GH/1.45BTC shipping after the CNY)
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