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2721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: October 22, 2023, 12:13:09 PM

Absolutely, it's frustrating when people ignore good advice but it's great that you're trying to guide beginners here. Gambling should definitely be about entertainment, not the hope of regular income. Hopefully, your suggestions help others enjoy it responsibly.

That is what gambling should be in theory,just some way to entertain yourself and in the mean time having some really remote slim possibilities to win some money by doing this activity.However although many people start gambling trying to forget the problems of nowadays and the stress level of nowadays which is extreme to say the least,people soon after entering this zone they do not accept the fact that you can lose money from such activity.They want to get their money back and continue to play without any real objective except the one to get the money back and this is the number one factor which leads to gambling addiction.People should learn about gambling before entering such activity so they avoid the risk to be drown in gambling addiction.

Exactly, basically gambling will not always be more than that, this is just an activity that will entertain you when you are bored or to fill your spare time when you are off work or whatever free time you have, of course this is just a round for fun and if you are lucky then you will be the winner of thousands of people who are gambling at that time. The victory in gambling will always roll and alternate, if today you lose then it could be that your friend wins or someone else who is also playing at the same time with the same casino.

The difficulty of accepting the fact that they have lost is one of the factors that makes them even crazier in gambling, especially for those who are easily provoked and emotional, obviously they will continue to come with the intention of revenge to restore losses in the previous time, not infrequently who are in a position like that now and well that's the addiction that we really fear. That's right, before they gamble they should understand everything in gambling, especially the risks, if you lose, just lose, there is no guarantee whatsoever to get your money back, and even if you try it again it will only increase the amount of your losses. So the only way is you have to change that mindset, this is just a place to have fun and not to earn money.
2722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How often is your luck in gambling? on: October 22, 2023, 11:32:22 AM

To be precise, if someone gambles for a profession or career, over time he will become addicted because he is used to doing it and hopes for luck in the gambling he does. And they will soon realize that there is no point in putting their hopes there, because it could be that one day they won't always succeed and will always lose. We should gamble just for fun to anticipate the many losses we might experience.

Exactly, it is not wrong if you want to make gambling into a profession but for a career maybe I disagree, as we know what a career means, which is very involved with the name of success in that career, while here you put gambling as a career, honestly I don't understand what you mean. Of course it's true, as you said, over time you will very likely become addicted, even though for example you have put strong self-control with some restrictions, because you are so used to gambling that you will not realize that over time you are very serious in gambling and eventually your mindset is disturbed, as in general you will continue to look for victory there when it is clear that this is about luck and whoever takes gambling too seriously then they will suffer a lot of losses with an amount that I think cannot be imagined.

Putting hope in gambling in my opinion is just nonsense, I understand that because you are too serious in seeing the opportunities that are there, but you have been fooled by the opportunity, there is really no point, not the victory you will get but the defeat will continue to dominate. Honestly, it's very dangerous and I hope they can change their wrong mindset soon.
Yes, I often see people who gamble because they hope for a chance to win right away, and I wonder if they will continue like that, and will they soon realize that one day what they hope for will not work? The answer is that only some people and most people who are addicted will have difficulty changing it.
And what you said is true, I could have been fooled by that, if I don't pay close attention, then it will be very dangerous for me in the future.

Honestly I wouldn't say that you or they can't win at all but rather it's going to be very hard to get because it all depends on your own luck. There are many people who try to gamble more often and even with a bigger budget, I'm sure at least in 20x tries you will be able to get one or two wins like you always hoped but can you see how the final result of that 20x tries, I mean just subtracting 2x wins in 20x tries? you sacrifice 18x losses to get 2x wins, is that balanced? maybe there is a balance if the winnings are very large but usually it is very difficult to get a number like that and usually the number of losses still exceeds the number of your wins.

For people who are already addicted, I honestly don't know how long that cycle will last, but still change is the best thing to stop or slowly get out of the zone like that. So the bottom line is gambling is okay but you have to be very careful, establish self-control and don't overdo it, that's all my friend.
2723  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: October 22, 2023, 10:53:52 AM
People need to use their common sense, if someone at the office catches you playing solitaire or attending a personal call no one is going to make a big deal about it, but if one of your coworkers sees that you are gambling you can be sure they will report you and then you may get fired for not giving your full attention to your job, and with good reason as the company you work for does not pay you to gamble but to do your job properly, something that gambling at the office will not allow you to do.
Agree. We need to understand that we go to the office to work. The company hires us to work seriously, they won't let us to do something like gambling at the office. Gambling probably ruins the focus, specifically when we get losses. How we can work properly if we have a bad mood after losing some money in gambling. So, gambling at office will ruin the quality of work in the office. I can't imagine if many workers do it.

Sure, the company demands our loyalty, seriousness, and the quality of working. They surely don't pay us for gambling, it doesn't make sense to gamble at office. If the managers or the owner find out the workers to gamble at office, it is very possible they sack the workers.


Basically we must really be able to divide our time and also divide our focus, always put things in their place, one example is if you leave from home to work then there are no other activities that you should do except focus on the job. Let alone gambling, you are negligent in your work only your boss will definitely scold you for not being serious at work, as we know how the general public views gambling, it is very negative, and maybe with that alone they can judge the true character of the person who gambles.

Although you may have a reason to relieve boredom at work by gambling, it is not recommended, because it will clearly be able to damage your seriousness and focus at work, and if in the end your gambling results are not in accordance with your wishes, it is very likely that you will get emotional there and of course your mood at work will be lost because of these emotions. Every job will always instruct its employees to be disciplined, responsible and honest and always apply professional work to all employees. This is very contrary to gambling, so it's better to prevent than to cure.
2724  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you leave gambling if your future wife/husband tells you to do this ? on: October 22, 2023, 10:33:05 AM
Yes and I hope that they can immediately realize that this activity can cause a lot of problems for their family including in terms of finances, agree with you, sooner or later it will definitely become a problem even though initially they thought it would be fine, but as we know gambling develops in humans without them realizing it, especially when they have entered the addiction zone, they will continue to play and it is very likely that the allocation of money for basic needs such as food will be used for gambling. Of course it is very dangerous and I can't imagine what will happen to the family, not infrequently we see that lately there are many divorces due to the consequences of gambling which of course makes their economy decline drastically. So yes there is nothing else but to stop, that's the best and if they have realized that this is really bad then hopefully they can consider stopping and reducing all their gambling activities. That's right, some can realize it and some can't at all, so it really depends on them like you said.
And if they can reduce their gambling activities for their own good, they will not experience the problems other people have experienced. They must pay attention to basic needs for their family rather than using their money to gamble because that is their current concern so they will realize that gambling is not a concern they need to do. If his family's basic needs can be met and he still has free money, he can return to gambling. But if he is worried that he cannot care for himself well, he should not gamble and do other activities with his family. By realizing that he now has a family, he will prioritize his family more than gambling because it is just having fun in his spare time.

Of course because there is no other way but to stop doing it or slowly reduce the activity, not to mention it is also for their own good and also for their family. Although they may argue that they will gamble with all control or self-restriction, it will not always be like that, the flow of gambling runs under the human consciousness so it is very possible that they will unconsciously enter into addiction and will always say "This time I will definitely win", they always hope - and even though there is absolutely no certainty and even the chances are very small. And obviously if they have entered the zone like that then maybe they will not think about their family including the basic needs for their family. Indeed there may be some of the gamblers who can withstand all the temptations that are there with strong self-control, but I say the chances are very small to be able to do that, as we know how the temptation in gambling until - until you can forget everything in your life gambling has distracted you. So the bottom line for those who are still gambling or even addicted is better from now on to reduce it and for those who never gamble at all I hope you can stay in that position by not being tempted by gambling at all, that's better.


Yes as I said above, inevitably if they are married then they must be able to think that there are already big responsibilities that they must focus on in the future, and that means they must be able to reduce their gambling slowly, because I am sure to stop suddenly it is almost impossible especially for those who are already addicted. Therefore, they can start by reducing their activities and divert their attention by adding other activities such as adding jobs to increase income. They should be able to think and take examples from the many cases that have occurred who ended up divorced because of gambling which affected the family economy.
When a person gets married, their responsibilities become greater, so they have to focus on meeting their family's daily needs and can reduce unnecessary expenses. And by reducing their focus on gambling, they can focus more on their family, which is what is more important to do. And if he earns income, he can hand over the money to his family so he can use it to meet his daily needs.

That's right, when they are married or married then what they have to prepare at the beginning is good management in terms of finances, because of course their expenses will be greater than usual when they are still supporting life for themselves, and now there are two lives they have to feed, you and your wife and also maybe some of your children later. As much as possible, we should minimize our spending and not buy anything that we don't need. So if in such conditions for example you are still gambling then instead of saving the budget but you are busy by continuing to allocate money to gambling. Believe me there will be many problems that come especially in terms of finance, if indeed you have more money then it is better to save for other needs in the future.
2725  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 21, 2023, 07:45:12 PM
Bayern Munich scored the third goal and so far everything is going their way. Mainz cannot even create a chance to make the game intresting with 15 minutes to go i think we can already say that Bayern Munich will win this match for sure. Leverkusen and Stuttgart are really grinding well.
All top teams in Bundesliga that played so far won their matches starting from Dortmund yesterday up to Bayern Munich today. It is nice to see Kane scoring again, Mainz were hopeless that match with 2 goals scored since the beginning of the game. That match result was expected anyway but what impressed me is the ability of Stuttgart to make successive victories and maintain a position among the top 4, before even Dortmund and Bayern Munich. Their match vs Union Berlin ended with 3 goals to 0, making Union look weak this season with many successive defeats
A result that had been predicted that Bayern Munich would win this match. The 2 quick goals they scored under 20 minutes of the match and when that happens, we will definitely think that Bayern Munich will be able to win a landslide victory and create goals in this match.
But I also appreciate Mainz's performance, they tried not to concede any more and they even managed to reduce the deficit at the end of the first half. But Bayern Munich are too strong to be beaten or at least held to a draw, and in the second half they had to concede again while locking in the victory for Bayern Munich.
2726  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 21, 2023, 07:31:55 PM
Things like this are always detrimental, it's controversial but what to do?
You and I can blame the referee for his bad decisions, but nothing can change. The score is 1-1 now and both teams are very evenly matched, it is a fact of this match instead of just blaming one moment why Real Madrid didn't score. The winning goal is still awaited, I hope 1-2 is a satisfactory result.
Sevilla 1 - 1 Real Madrid, less than 5 minutes between the two goals and a good opportunity for Barcelona to get closer from them. If Barcelona won vs Athletic Bilbao then the difference will be just 1 goal between them and Real Madrid..
This time Bellingham didn't score nor Vinicius Junior who didn't score much this season.
The attack line of Real Madrid is worrying about the inability to generate many goals per match Undecided They need a real striker for real.
Now we're starting to see their weaknesses. Previously it could be covered because Jude Bellingham was always the difference by scoring goals, but when he couldn't create goals then we saw what the results were.
Opponents must also be aware of things like this, and they must be preparing strategies to be able to hold players who are the difference not to talk much. I personally wasn't surprised by Real Madrid's game, because they usually play a game that doesn't really control the game. But this draw is a sign that their weaknesses have been realized by their opponents.
2727  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 21, 2023, 07:16:44 PM

Maybe I'm quite regretful because I'm not sure about PSG, even though PSG is very favored if we consider the odds that existed before. But for some reason, I felt that maybe it was a trap so I doubted PSG in this match. But the truth is, PSG managed to win big with the final score being 3-0 and yes, if I realized the final result would be like this then maybe I would still go ahead to bet on PSG with the asian handicap option of course. Also, with the three points that PSG got in this match, it make PSG at the top of the Ligue 1 standings for now, even though it is only temporary, but it will certainly boost the team's morale for the better.
PSG is actually not as bad as they think, it's just that sometimes they are unlucky because their opponents are really defensive throughout the match. Strasbourg were actually also very defensive with a 4-5-1 formation, but their high pressing meant they had to make mistakes which led to the first goal.

I don't know what the best reason is to underestimate PSG just because they dropped points in some games to non-favorites like Nice and Clermont Foot, but maybe they have their reasons. PSG is the favorite team every season in Ligue 1, but they shouldn't play without losing every season. Today they won at home with a score of 3-0, it was an expected win.
Yes, it is true that Paris Saint Germain are not that bad, but again their unstable performances make that doubt arise in our minds about how they will play. One more thing, with their strength far above other clubs in Ligue 1 in general, they should be able to do and show more than what they are now showing.
I emphasize especially in the Champions League, I have no problem in Ligue 1, but when it comes to the Champions League, we can definitely see what they can do there, they have little hope there.
2728  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 21, 2023, 07:01:49 PM
José Mourinho is getting near to Saudi Arabian more than any time. Since he couldn't have a good performance in Roma there's the possibility for this famous coach to lose his job in Serie A and since some Saudi team wanted to hire this coach even during the last summer. Now there is a higher possibility for us to see José Mourinho in the Saudi League.



https://dailysports.net/news/mourinhos-arrival-in-saudi-arabia-came-prematurely-real-has-contemplated-the-return-of-special-one/

With Roma, Mourinho reached his maximum and maybe he should have left after his second season. Constantly getting good results with an average team is unrealistic (especially when the competitors are so strong). I don’t see anything wrong with him working in Saudi Arabia, I think when a good option appears in Europe, he will be able to return from there. In the end, Ancelotti was able to return to the top after his failure with Everton, so why can't Mourinho repeat this path (besides, it is too early to talk about his failure).
He hasn't failed, but he's struggled to bring AS Roma up to speed in Serie A especially. Yes indeed now the Serie A club can be said to be good, the big club clubs that the last few years like sinking, now they are starting to rise again and the impact is that the competition there is tighter, it will be difficult for clubs that do not have good strength.
I'm not saying AS Roma don't have good strength, but indeed when compared to some other big clubs maybe they can be said to be still below them with a comparison that is not too far away.
2729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 02:23:05 PM
Benzama scored one of his usual goals with a header. He scored his goal in the 22nd minute, it was clear from the previous events that he would score this goal. Then, Al Taawoun scored from a corner kick and the same header, and the goals were scored one after the other. There were many more goals that Karim Benzama could have scored, but he could not score the other goal.

Clearly, a bad result for both teams on the way to the championship is not a score that will please anyone. I guess it was a strange match as Karim Benzama played for both teams today, I don't understand Cheesy

This Karim Benzema we see in the Saudi League is not like the Benzama in Real Madrid and he is not even near to it. Benzama is getting old and he can't have good performance anymore. otherwise, a player like Benzema is a team like Al Ittihad to win the Saudi League title while there is currently a six-point gap between them and first place of the league.

There has been a decline in Benzema's performances as he gets older, but despite his decline, it's not significant in the sense that his performance is still within standard limits and he still deserves to be in the main squad.
We also can't always expect him to perform well forever, because ups and downs in performance are a certainty in football. Especially when age eats into his performance from time to time, he also has more injuries now, although the injury is relatively mild but it is still a bad sign for him.
2730  Economy / Economics / Re: Dangers of combining company and personal funds in the same account on: October 21, 2023, 12:03:54 PM
The issue of holding organization funds by an individual, lets say the treasurer of the organization should be heavily discouraged as most times it does not end well and leads to the funds being utilized or stolen by the person in charge. organizations should plan their startup properly and that includes being properly registered with the government which enables them to open a company account with approved banks.
In the case where it is a personal business, there is also danger mixing up money for business and your personal money because you will easily be able to tamper with the money meant for business in tough situations. Another danger of receiving money meant for business in personal account is that it makes your business look unserious. Imagine sending a personal account with your name to a new client who have just been referred to you for a job. It is not a good image for your business. Every company must have a company account, so the owners are able to differentiate company funds from personal funds.

That's right, and that's one of the dangers, like the example you said, we can and even very likely to tamper with the funds in the account, whether it's used for your personal needs or whatever it is, it's very possible and possible, and also definitely between personal money and company money will be mixed, and I'm sure you won't be able to record all expenses in detail, for example how much your personal money goes out and how much company money goes out, even though maybe you have good financial management but still this method is not recommended.

We must be able to separate money for business and also money for personal use, because if not then I'm sure you are difficult to become a professional entrepreneur, in terms of separating money alone you can not. Well right, another danger is that you will not get full trust from your prospective clients, as you said, if they give a personal account to one of their clients with the aim of any transaction in the interests of your business then there will definitely be doubts from your prospective clients, whether they are afraid of being cheated or whatever they can feel, the point will appear negative feelings from them. how can a business that is supposed to be professional but in small things like this you just can't. So yes it's better for you to separate it. So yes, it's better to separate it so that your clients can trust you more and your image is maintained.
2731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: October 21, 2023, 11:45:27 AM
~ Emotional problem will arise as the main provider will have a big problem with his finances, gambling addiction affects the lives of everyone that surrounds that person, especially if he's already have an obligation to provide the needs of his family, I guess all are depends from how the person carry the load, addiction might not be possible if the person is busy taking care of his life and the obligation that he needed to take care.

That is certainly true. To avoid gambling addiction it's important to keep yourself busy with other things. Don't think it's boring in the first place. It's not. Life is also gambling in a way, and if you look at it like that, you'll find all those attractions of gambling in your life too. Gambling also can take part in all that, but only a small part, not the main one.

Well that's right, basically it's okay for anyone if they want to gamble but I hope they can do everything to avoid the gambling addiction, none other than for their own good, because after all maybe you can imagine what it feels like if you get into addiction, you can see many examples of some people who are very badly affected by always experiencing problems in their lives, especially finances that are getting worse. Yes, you suggested a very good alternative, one way to avoid gambling addiction is as you said by keeping yourself busy in some other activities such as adding a part-time job, or whatever it is important to keep you busy, and with that I am sure your mind will avoid the name gambling and you will not remember it too much.

True, basically our lives can also be called gambling, which is where luck is very involved in it, everything cannot be predicted and will not always be in accordance with what we expect, but this is not too significant, as you said maybe only a few percent.
2732  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How often is your luck in gambling? on: October 21, 2023, 11:13:47 AM

Gambling as a career is the first step to getting addicted and probably loose some more money, gambling should don't be considered as a profession, although some persons have made it one and are successful t it but it doesn't make it any good to consider as one because one out of everyone twenty gets that lucky with been successful gambling.

Gambling for entertainment make gambling almost more safe because you definitely not  get so attached to it but on lucky days you get to win big, but then knowing that this luck comes only once in a while will definitely help your mind stay strong when you encounter several losses.
To be precise, if someone gambles for a profession or career, over time he will become addicted because he is used to doing it and hopes for luck in the gambling he does. And they will soon realize that there is no point in putting their hopes there, because it could be that one day they won't always succeed and will always lose. We should gamble just for fun to anticipate the many losses we might experience.

Exactly, it is not wrong if you want to make gambling into a profession but for a career maybe I disagree, as we know what a career means, which is very involved with the name of success in that career, while here you put gambling as a career, honestly I don't understand what you mean. Of course it's true, as you said, over time you will very likely become addicted, even though for example you have put strong self-control with some restrictions, because you are so used to gambling that you will not realize that over time you are very serious in gambling and eventually your mindset is disturbed, as in general you will continue to look for victory there when it is clear that this is about luck and whoever takes gambling too seriously then they will suffer a lot of losses with an amount that I think cannot be imagined.

Putting hope in gambling in my opinion is just nonsense, I understand that because you are too serious in seeing the opportunities that are there, but you have been fooled by the opportunity, there is really no point, not the victory you will get but the defeat will continue to dominate. Honestly, it's very dangerous and I hope they can change their wrong mindset soon.
2733  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: October 21, 2023, 10:34:33 AM
It's true that gambling while working is not recommended. If you work, just work, don't do anything else outside of work. Everything has its time, there is time for work, study, play and even gambling. For me personally, I set aside weekend time to gamble and that's only for a few hours, not for long, because the game I play is a slot type and there's no point in lingering on it.

We have to be a wise gambler, each thing has its own portion - each including in terms of time which is divided by our daily activities, according to the title in question above and I agree with you, if it is indeed time to work then just focus on your work, don't let you think about doing other activities while working, let alone gambling, it is not recommended. Although it is quite fun and can get rid of boredom in yourself but we also have to think about the impact, if you experience defeat there then it will be very likely that your mood is lost and surely you will be emotional and then will not be enthusiastic in continuing to work. Doesn't that interfere with your work? Yes of course very disturbing, while work is the most important because it is the work that supports your life there.

That's better, gambling is indeed free and you can gamble at any time but you also have to be able to see the situation and conditions, if indeed you are doing very important activities such as gambling then don't gamble. Gambling is only to fill empty time or boredom, such as for example during work holidays or other empty time, and it is also only for pleasure not for income.
2734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you leave gambling if your future wife/husband tells you to do this ? on: October 21, 2023, 10:03:37 AM
True, especially for those who are married, when they hide their gambling then I'm sure there will be a lot of financial problems that occur there and it will accelerate them to be caught by their children and wife, how not because surely the income from the husband to his wife for kitchen needs will decrease and his wife will question because it's usually not like that. Yes it depends on the person too, if they are always closed in any case then surely in gambling he will not tell anyone even if it is to his own wife or husband, even though it is their habit to always live closed but for problems like gambling I think they should consider it, because obviously in terms of risk is very large for finances, as you said especially if they are married. Quite concerned and indeed the only way is just to be honest with his husband or wife, I'm sure they won't be too angry as long as you want to be honest, they will understand and I think they will definitely help you to get out of that zone.
If he doesn't realize that his gambling habit can cause problems for his family's finances, sooner or later, it will happen and become a big problem when he doesn't have the money to meet his living needs. He will find it difficult to do so because his money has been used for gambling until there is nothing left and of course, the problem will not stop there because his wife will ask for his money. But when he realizes that his gambling habit has started to cause problems and he must immediately stop gambling. He can start reducing his gambling habit, he will be able to overcome the problem and in the end, he will realize that meeting the family's needs will be more important than gambling. It will depend on the person because some can't realize it and instead continue gambling until they have no money left.

Yes and I hope that they can immediately realize that this activity can cause a lot of problems for their family including in terms of finances, agree with you, sooner or later it will definitely become a problem even though initially they thought it would be fine, but as we know gambling develops in humans without them realizing it, especially when they have entered the addiction zone, they will continue to play and it is very likely that the allocation of money for basic needs such as food will be used for gambling. Of course it is very dangerous and I can't imagine what will happen to the family, not infrequently we see that lately there are many divorces due to the consequences of gambling which of course makes their economy decline drastically. So yes there is nothing else but to stop, that's the best and if they have realized that this is really bad then hopefully they can consider stopping and reducing all their gambling activities. That's right, some can realize it and some can't at all, so it really depends on them like you said.

That's not quite right, and I think maybe it's more appropriate that when you are married then you have to reduce the activities of your habits when you are young because as you said, there is already something they have to focus on in their lives. Basically it's true, there is no other way or alternative that they should do except stop from their gambling activities, because it will only cause a lot of new problems, it doesn't matter if your finances are very good because maybe you can still support your living expenses but the problem is when you live mediocre but still gambling. So it's better to just stop to minimize things that are not wanted such as financial problems for example.
Changes should occur in someone who is married because, after all, when someone is married, the focus of his life is different from when he was single and he must know that before he gets married. He must be able to abandon his old habits, especially since he and his wife/husband are now one family. If he used to gamble a lot, he can reduce it slowly before he gets married so that after he gets married, he can give up gambling because he has to put his family first. There should be no problem with giving up gambling, especially if he is not addicted to gambling because it just requires a new habit and doing other activities that are not related to gambling.

Yes as I said above, inevitably if they are married then they must be able to think that there are already big responsibilities that they must focus on in the future, and that means they must be able to reduce their gambling slowly, because I am sure to stop suddenly it is almost impossible especially for those who are already addicted. Therefore, they can start by reducing their activities and divert their attention by adding other activities such as adding jobs to increase income. They should be able to think and take examples from the many cases that have occurred who ended up divorced because of gambling which affected the family economy.
2735  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 21, 2023, 07:21:14 AM
According to the news by Euro paper talk, Liverpool have reached and agreement to sign the Napoli striker for about £100m plus i don't know how true it is, but i believe he'll make a fine addition to Liverpool squad, however Osimhen would prefer a move to Liverpool than  Chelsea cause, they stand a chance of offering him champions league football and we're not sure yet if Chelsea would finish in the top 4 and qualify for the Champions League, they've not been very consistent since the new tournament started.
I haven't read the news and maybe it's just an initial agreement, meaning there is no clarity regarding the agreement between the two clubs, but what is certain is that if he goes to Liverpool it will provide a new challenge for his career because this is a quite different league in terms of competition with Serie A.
For Napoli, the news about his move to another club will certainly not be pleasant and it will be very disturbing every time Napoli plays, especially when this team gets bad results, it will always be linked to what is happening to its flagship striker.
Today Napoli will face Verona, maybe they won't face any problems because Verona is definitely continuing to decline after appearing quite impressive at the start of the season but slowly they continue to get bad results. Napoli is very likely to get the three points and also score lots of goals, and Osimhen, even though he is continuously rumored to be leaving, will still be Napoli's mainstay up front.
If Osimhen's move to Liverpool really happens, then it is also a challenge for Liverpool. Because if we learn from their striker transfer experience, they have a bad record in Nunez. Yes he could almost be said to have failed when he joined Liverpool and it could happen again.
But the advantage of Osimhen is that he is also part of one of the clubs that can compete in the top leagues in Europe, so he may be used to getting great pressure.
But this is just a preliminary agreement and in the process something could happen that makes the move not happen.
2736  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 07:05:17 AM
Liverpool vs Everton

After international break Liverpool have to lost their left back player Andrew Robertson it says Robertson will be absense at least 3 months and this is big lost for Liverpool because so far Klopp always be depending him to guard Liverpool defense and indeed some of players just like Kostas Tsimikas, Joe Gomez or Luke Chambers can be played as right back but i am not really sure of these players can performing well

Liverpool condition a bit worried because besides lost Andrew Robertson they also will lost Curtis Jones because of suspension besides that i am sure some of players still feel fatigue after defend their national team so this match is not easy for Liverpool and indeed as a host Liverpool is the favourite with odds @1.38 and my prediction is probably Liverpool will win this match but with slim score
Although they lost their important players, but in this match I'm sure it won't have a big influence on them, because if you look at their current opponents, they are not too strong for them. But indeed it will affect when they face stronger opponents than Everton.
Talking about this match, I am quite sure for Liverpool's victory. They must also be motivated to win after the previous 2 matches they could only win 1 point. Now the opportunity to win again is wide open for them.



Chelsea did show some improvement in their last 2 matches against Fulham and Burnley, they were able to win the matches away from homed, even though Chelsea will play as host in the next match against Arsenal don't forget that Arsenal is a tough opponent for Chelsea at the moments.
Arsenal has not received defeat in 8 matches in the premier league.
Arsenal is a stronger club at the moment, play at home or away is not a big problems for Arsenal because he is able to perform impressively in every condition, especially since Arsenal just beat Manchester City and the matches against Chelsea is certainly not difficult for Arsenal.
Yes I agree, although they won the previous 2 matches, but what they faced was an ordinary club and did not have good strength like Arsenal. Now Arsenal are more challenging and judging from the performance they lose to Arsenal. Arsenal is also 1 of the 2 unbeaten clubs in the Premier League this season, so it will be very difficult for Chelsea to beat them.
Apart from all that, I hope this match will be interesting and not feature only 1 club that is superior to the control of the match. Because if so it will make the match less interesting too.
2737  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 21, 2023, 06:50:13 AM
Apart from that, I really appreciate the performance of the management who can bring Newcastle to this point. In the Premier League now they are one of the competitors that cannot be underestimated, as well as when it comes to the Champions League. The beginning of their rise after Newcastle had enough money to make big changes.
Well, a club that has enough money should be able to do like this, and make the best use of it. Because if they do something right with the money they have then it will bring improvement also for the performance of the club's game.

Which again brings us to the surprising fact that Newcastle never misbehaved like Chelsea in the transfer market. I remember when they had their new investor and everybody thought that Newcastle United will be turned into a new Manchester City, but even more than that because the investor is so rich. But to everyone's surprise Newcastle is very moderate given how resourceful they are. This is why began to like the club. They are very grounded and focus on development and they are successfully doing that. Chelsea is the best counter example out there of how things should not be done. But I think Newcastle is still missing a few nuances to really become a title contender in the Premier League. The same applies to their appearance in the Champions League, but i mean they are around and kicking and they have all chances until they get eliminated. See Inter Milan last year.
What they do is very inversely proportional to what Chelsea does, indeed they both have the same money but the problem is the way they use it is different. Newcastle in my view is a simple club, they move quietly and one example is when there is no big news about them in the transfer market. They also bring in players who they need and deserve to fill their shortcomings only.
I am surprised when you say they are transforming into the new Manchester City, but that is also true as long as they can consistently create a solid foundation like Mancgester City did before.



There is a Galatasaray-Bayern Munich game on Tuesday, it will be a very exciting game for us. Anything can happen in this game.
I think we can get 1 point at worst. Galatasaray is playing very well in the Champions League.
Everyone already knows that Bayern Munich will win this match, but of course there are quite a few who want a different result in this match. A draw would be a pretty good thing, of course both teams have to score goals against each other and don't let it be a draw without a goal. Galatassaray will definitely be very happy to be able to get 1 point against Bayern Munich and their chances of becoming runners up are even more open.

Bayern Munich will still be the favorite to win the group and Manchester United I don't see this team being included in the team that will qualify for the next round. We have to realize that one of Galatassaray or Copenhagen is the one who deserves to accompany Bayern Munich after the group stage ends.
Bayern Munich are the strongest club in this group and in this match, many people will say the same thing, which is a win for Bayern Munich. But Galatasaray will also want the best result, if they can't win, at least 1 point is a very good result for them.

Talking about Manchester United who are also in the same group, it is quite sad to see them at the bottom of the table with no wins from the 2 matches they played. Now their chances are quite small and they have to work hard to make it to the next round.
2738  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: October 21, 2023, 06:35:25 AM
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It's a tough job for a casino and I'm sure we all have the same thoughts on this, especially now that it's the modern era where it's easy to outsmart things.
2739  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 20, 2023, 07:01:35 PM
Another match in group F is Newcastle vs Borussia Dortmund, this will be an interesting match to watch. Newcastle as a newcomer to the Champions League can show that they are not a club that can be underestimated, as evidenced by their first place in the standings. Borussia Dortmund, who are regulars in the Champions League, have difficulty competing in this hell group and now they are at the caretaker of the standings from the 2 matches they have played.
This match will be a match that puts Newcastle as the host, and it will be very beneficial for them. Newcastle look to be the favorites right now, but Borussia Dortmund also have the potential to cause a surprise.

I would assume that Newcastle, even if they can be considered a Newcomer because their absence of 20 years from the Champions League, would not be underestimated anymore at all since their 4-1 defeat against PSG in the last game. The bookies clearly see Newcastle as the big favorite in this game and I would agree with that. We could argue about the odds maybe, but Dortmund's chances to win the game are not that great. Newcastle is full of self-confidence and are probably eagerly looking forward to that game. If they win this game, they have essentially knocked out Dortmund from the race for the group winner and Newcastle would be in great position to ace the group. They could be fine with almost any result in the other game PSG vs. AC Milan.
Apart from that, I really appreciate the performance of the management who can bring Newcastle to this point. In the Premier League now they are one of the competitors that cannot be underestimated, as well as when it comes to the Champions League. The beginning of their rise after Newcastle had enough money to make big changes.
Well, a club that has enough money should be able to do like this, and make the best use of it. Because if they do something right with the money they have then it will bring improvement also for the performance of the club's game.
2740  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 20, 2023, 06:46:18 PM
The things that were feared one by one happened to Napoli, first their overall performance decreased and also Osimhen's outstanding performance last season also decreased, although not significantly but we can still see that it is true that he has decreased. This is normal in football, and indeed maintaining the impressive form they played in last season is more difficult than them stepping up from the bottom. Now the one who gets a lot of attention is their coach, and it is also very reasonable because after all a coach will be the first person to blame when a club's performance declines.

Of course, currently Napoli as the defending champions are in fifth place in the standings with seven points, which is a bad result for coach Rudi Garcia, many even say he could be fired if he doesn't improve.

In the match against Verona, I think Napoli will try to recover from two consecutive defeats in all previous competitions. Victory against Verona is very important for Rudi Garcia, even though without his mainstay striker, Osimhen, he will have to use all his abilities to achieve victory in this match. Because if you can't win, the pressure will increase on Coach Rudi Garcia.

If you look at h2h, Verona has won three matches in their last 25 meetings against Napoli, while Napoli has won 15 matches, and seven matches ended in a draw. My prediction is that the score in this match is 0-1 for Napoli to win.
In terms of strength, this should be a victory for Napoli, although they are not in good shape, but Verona is not a very strong club, so this is their chance to get back to a positive result after the last 2 matches they could not win the match.
If they lose this match, then the fate of the coach will be very much at stake and it could be that in the future Napoli will terminate the cooperation between them. Verona in their last 5 matches they played were unable to win even once and could only collect 2 points from 2 draws, the host status that Verona bears should not have a big impact on Napoli.
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