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27381  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Fisco / Tasse / Legge sul Bitcoin on: January 05, 2014, 10:35:47 AM

Cioè se uno mina bitcoin e spende direttamente quei bitcoin senza convertirli in fiat, in teoria oltre all'eventuale IVA sul bene acquistato, il mining in sé è stato esentasse?


Se mini bitcoin e spendi bitcoin e come se tu avessi trovato delle banconote sotterrate in giardino e le avessi spese, nessuno sa niente nessuno ti tassa.

Questa é la risposta che ha dato un fiscalista statunitense ad una domanda simile: "Because I've seen a lot of misinformation on this point, I want to make myself perfectly clear. If you own bitcoins that have appreciated in value, you cannot use them to purchase a goods or services tax free. Such a purchase is an accession to wealth, and is therefore taxable. This is no different than if you had sold the bitcoins for cash and used the proceeds to purchase the goods or services directly. Yet, one would be taxable while the other would not? The IRS would never tolerate such a blatant loophole, and neither would the courts. In fact, we already have a long line of IRS rulings and Supreme Court cases rejecting identical arguments made for other types of assets. The outcome for bitcoins will be the same." In altre parole, se uno compra un portachiavi, nessuno gli fa i conti in tasca, ma se uno compra una Lamborghini deve pagare le tasse sul ricavo ottenuto come se fosse passato attraverso i contanti.
Finché nessuno sa niente, nessuno ti tassa, ma se qualcuno viene a sapere bisogna essere consapevoli che si é al torto.

beh a meno di non comprare beni di grandi dimensioni, è molto molto difficile che riescono a saperlo, quindi escludendo automobili/case/barche, finché si comprano direttamente in btc beni che non danno nell'occhio, nessuno ti dirà mai niente
27382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins dying???? on: January 05, 2014, 10:30:31 AM
Now that 90% of all new alt coins are just pump and dump scam coins, everyone will lose faith and trust in buying these coins. Its a dying market.

yeah they are saturating it, with all those crazy altcoin waves, it become a bit silly now...
27383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.4 Released MANDATORY UPDATE on: January 05, 2014, 10:24:01 AM
can you remove the "version 1.4" from the logo, it don't look good in that way
27384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [ICOIN] iCoin Buy/Sell Spreadsheet on: January 05, 2014, 09:30:37 AM
wts 136 for 0.015
27385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Automatic Altcoin Generator on: January 05, 2014, 09:26:56 AM
It cost 0.01 BTC though
0.1 now  Roll Eyes
27386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / [WTS] 480k moon on: January 05, 2014, 08:58:18 AM
for 0.03 btc
27387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.3 Released MANDATORY UPDATE on: January 05, 2014, 08:55:02 AM
there is a new 1.3 v update?
27388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! - FORK COMING AT BLOCK 20290 PLEASE ENTER AND READ! on: January 04, 2014, 10:53:45 PM
these forks are nice, to create new early adopters lmao
27389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GRA] Grain - New PoW/PoS coin | Fast, secure | Version 1.2 Released! on: January 04, 2014, 08:35:44 PM
in order to find a block you must equal or exceed the "diff" not "DIFF"
27390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Most Powerful Scrypt miners today on: January 04, 2014, 08:04:28 PM
7990, 1350 kh/s
27391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.3 Released MANDATORY UPDATE on: January 04, 2014, 05:23:15 PM
i don't care, i'll hold my 2 million until death
27392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What happening with DOGE? on: January 04, 2014, 04:09:39 PM
funny thing is that doge is still the most profitable
27393  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ** GIVEAWAY ** WWW.UNITEDBITCOINMINING.COM ** GIVEAWAY ** on: January 04, 2014, 02:29:12 PM
1EkYQWkHz5FdooSrJWeDkqbADWcp5zd3p
27394  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Fisco / Tasse / Legge sul Bitcoin on: January 04, 2014, 01:22:32 PM
il problema è che anche chi mina fa trading, però genera plusvalenze di btc non di euro
27395  Economy / Gambling / Re: Coinroll.it - Dice rolling game | Instant bets | Off-the-chain | 1% House edge on: January 04, 2014, 12:06:05 PM
so i won 5 btc? wow not bad  Grin

lol my number is the number of the btc i won
27396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crapcoin (CRAP) on: January 04, 2014, 11:50:43 AM
Question: And who is going to buy that crap?Huh

it seems more stable than some new coins out there...
it has wallet.... has block explorer... and they're working...

the coin name is very important
27397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are you mining right now? on: January 04, 2014, 10:51:18 AM
earth/grain, other new coins are crap
27398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crapcoin (CRAP) on: January 04, 2014, 08:47:37 AM
where is the crap pool? Smiley
don't want to download the crap wallet eh? lmao
27399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [WTB] Grain coins (GRA) for 0.03 BTC on: January 03, 2014, 10:33:23 PM
10k?

is not easy to make 10k even with this difficulty

and i can't go first with someone with a lower activity
I make ~40k/day with a normal gaming PC, so 10k is not really what I had in mind.  Roll Eyes

i can't evaluate this under 100 satoshi, i don't care about the difficulty

so at best 30k for 0.03

10k is also what you make in 15 hours with 500kh/s, and with that  hash i can mine other coin with a result of 1M satoshi per day...
27400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [WTB] Grain coins (GRA) for 0.03 BTC on: January 03, 2014, 05:39:27 PM
10k?

is not easy to make 10k even with this difficulty

and i can't go first with someone with a lower activity
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