Lots of backwards and forwards tipping with Doge though and for no reason at all. Would be more interesting to see the results of tip days destroyed sort of thing if that was possible. Still fair play to them for generously passing around the same few million Doges ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Well, this could be the battle. The turning point for the downtrend since the last bubble? (And yes, it already popped IMO)
What battle? Still only 6000 volume on stamp. Breaking the trend going down. There's not much volume, but I think everyone's tensed up and waiting for the slightest sign. Its been like this for a weekish now, everyones waiting for the slightest sign but people are getting nervous as nobody is buying. The longer its like that the more bearish it is IMO.
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This is only likely if the $ collapses in my opinion but then half a million may only be enough to buy a small family car so its all relative.
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Fair play to him. Its what I had in mind when I made my donation, would have been annoyed if it was used for free lunch ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Weve be.... t was really it.
Nice try But total bullshit Care to elaborate and add some padding to your opinion? No I've better thing to do than made up some theory to fit my position Dont speak at all then... This is a speculation thread, dont just call speculation bullshit because it doesn't fit your theory then not even elobarate on why, thats just infantile. I said the bidsum has gone from $20 million to $12 million which it has and that one person or group of people pushed us from $550 to $700 in a few hours. People clearly aren't buying. None of that is bullshit so kindly leave your asinine replies for someone else.
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Weve be.... t was really it.
Nice try But total bullshit Care to elaborate and add some padding to your opinion?
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what stolen coins?
what did I miss?
Reffering to gox coins if they were stolen but also to Flexcoin and the otehr exchange that has coins stolen.
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Weve been primed to go down for a week or so now, the volumes have been terrible, the bid sum on stamp has gone from $20 million to $12 million (which is the lowest its been in a while). The fact is people arent buying but nobody wants to sell on such low volumes as whats the point when weve been in a $20 range for a week. It makes sense that we go down if you take out the whale that took us from $550 to $710 we would still be at a much more comfortable level and consolidating properly. The recovery from $400 was quick and violent and left people wondering whether that was really it.
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Its so quiet in here, its just chart buddy talking to himself
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did the 630 wall get devoured or did it get pulled?
It was actually a mixture I think, a big chunk of it got pulled and then the rest eaten but just as it dropped below $630 4 ~160btc bids were placed within a few pence of each other so Im guessing its the same guy. Three were pulled and one of them got eaten.
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Yes. Insult and then ignore.
Listening is half of the conversation, which you have chosen NOT to do....
Aw poor boy did I hurt your feelings? I never insulted you I said your rants were senseless which they are. YOU are the one whos not listening...
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You do NOT agree or you believe that I am missing something, so why go on about it?
Um, isnt that what a conversation is. You dont agree with whats being said to you or you think that others are missing something so you keep going on about it. Difference is other people arent changing word definitions of their own accord and don't consistently state their opinions as facts. Anyway, no need to reply to this. We're not getting anywhere because you make yourself immpossible to converse with. YES... YOU ARE VERY possible to converse with. hehehehe You throw out a personal attack and then you say, o.k... no need for me to respond. Let me just say, the reason that I am saying that we do NOT need to go on about this particular topic is that if we cannot agree upon basic definitions (such as the application of coercion in government and I have been addressing variations of this question in various places for nearly 20 more than 50 pages), then we are NOT going to agree about other conclusions that are built upon those definitions. Personally, I do NOT find it fruitful or productive to spend time discussing things with people in circumstances in which we do NOT agree about fundamental definitions. Sometimes we may go around and around the bush several times, and then figure out that we do agree on a redefinition of our original disagreement, yet I am just saying why go around and around the bush several times when it does NOT really matter that much. I would rather talk about bitcoin related stuff b/c I do NOT feel that I need to resolve these role of government matters ... NOT at the moment.... Several posters have already made their points on the role of government topic in several ways... though I get the sense that probably, a few of us are NOT completely exhausted, yet, and accordingly, the discussion is NOT quite over, yet. hehehe... TO DA MOON You make no sense, you do realise that this isnt a competition to see who can write the most words. You just ramble on and on and dont make any points. Ive highlighted the major sticking point. Its not that we cant agree on a basic definition it is that you wont accept one. Anyway, good day to you and welcome to ignore.
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$630 wall thats been there for hours is gone. Given up on trying to keep the price up? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FU5ctJaV.png&t=662&c=121tOe5mvazh_w)
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You do NOT agree or you believe that I am missing something, so why go on about it?
Um, isnt that what a conversation is. You dont agree with whats being said to you or you think that others are missing something so you keep going on about it. Difference is other people arent changing word definitions of their own accord and don't consistently state their opinions as facts. Anyway, no need to reply to this. We're not getting anywhere because you make yourself immpossible to converse with.
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Adam, time to close this damn thread and make a new one....
This shit has gone Mexico
Once we start moving again in either direction and theres money to be made the topics will change, this is just a manifestation of how stagnant the market is atm ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Literally? I do not want to get caught up in the meaning of literally.
Anyhow, part of the reason that we have some of this back and forth communication on this topic is b/c we have differing understandings on some terms, including the term coercion. So, at this point, I am a little unclear about the point that you are making Dreamspark? Did you want to chime in to clarify what is so clear about coercion and why living in society is coercion?
There are people from third world countries who are fighting for the chance to live in america, in spite of all its supposedly "coercive" taxes.
Clearly in its original meaning as he had just told you why. * facepalm Anyhow, you can try and say we have different understandings of the term but that is not the case. You have a different understanding of it in comparison to the real definition. Look, "Persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats:" is the dictionary definition of coercion. If you can argue that being a part of society in regards to paying taxes against your will under the threat of force is not coercion then I'll be flabbergasted. Perhaps we can try a different approach cause Im pretty bored of seeing your sensless rants. Can you explain how it is not coercion as an explaination as to why it is coercion has been offered several times.
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Having mandatory, is NOT the same as coercion.. b/c a large majority of the people do NOT need to be coerced to follow rules of their own making and a society of their own choosing and a community in which they chose to live... I would NOT call that coercion.
If I resist paying taxes, the government intervenes with the threat of force. Threat of force is the very definition of coercion. If people are really choosing to make rules to provide welfare, then they can skip the intermediate step and chose to provide welfare. Everything else is coercion. That is why this back and forth communication with you is getting NO WHERE - b/c you keep insisting that your being part of a community is coercion... and you give way too much weight to this coercion aspect - to the extent that taxes are mandatory and a part of civil society, and almost anywhere in the world has some taxes.. though there is variation. If you are an American (or another western country), you have won the lottery, b/c you can move almost anywhere in the world with your passport and find some haven that has little to no taxes. What country are you from? You seem to want the benefits of being part of a community, but you do NOT want to pay into that community's rate of taxation. He literally just told you why being part of a community is coercion, what dont you understand...
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1600BTC wall at $630 has been nibbled and is sitll up so looks legit.
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Small wall at $635, will this finally cause some movement either way...
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I wasnt being funny just pointing you in the right direction ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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