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2761  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: July 03, 2021, 11:32:50 PM
Mas gaganda ang laban pag maglalaro si Trae Young, easy nalang to para sa Hawks.

Para sa akin, ang bintaha lang ng Hawks ay yong maglalaro sila sa kanilang homecourt pero napakalas pa rin ng Bucks kahit wala si Giannis at saka medyo kulang pa rin sa experience yong Hawks.

Pero ganon pa man, hindi natin malalaman ang outcome kasi bilog ang bola at napaka-unpredictable ng Hawks pero sadyang hindi talaga ako hiyang na pupusta sa kanila.

Good luck to all of us.
2762  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: July 03, 2021, 11:22:55 PM
He has learned his lessons with his past match against Inoue and I think he'll put more effort that we had given with that match. I thought that it was Casimero who's going to fight Inoue. What has the highest chance to happen? the title or Casimero - Inoue?

Even though Donaire learned some lessons from their first fight but I don't think it's enough for him to beat the Monster as Inoue too have learned some lessons and if this fight happens it would be less difficult as he knows what to do.

Things become complicated and it became disadvantageous to Inoue as he needs two fights before unifying all the four belts.

With Bob Arum saying he could deliver the Inoue-Donaire rematch then 90 percent this would push through then Monster vs Quadro Alas for the climax considering that Casimero will beat Rigo next month.

IMO, Csimero has a higher chance of beating Inoue than Donaire.
2763  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: July 03, 2021, 11:03:07 AM
Errol Spence is putting all his time into training while Manny Pacquiao is busy having an exchange conversation with the government. He is creating his own distraction.

The timing is really bad as he can focus on the idea of his ambition for a higher position after the fight. And because the government is responding to his statement then he will respond too and it will now be a never-ending discussion. He is so sure about his supporting documents about corruption but why just now? He can show that a much early and even can form an investigation on the Senate if he's really serious about fighting the corruption.

But instead, he does it now as he's making sound to the election. I don't know what to think now.

Manny is amazing as a boxer but as a politician, his money and fame make him win the senate seat.

I just don't know how he can handle this issue now that it's blown out of proportion. He just can't leave the Philippines to train in the US, he must finish what he started so that his popularity won't drop.

He may say that he is not affected by the issue but for sure his focus will not be there anymore and this might lead to his distraction against a bigger and younger opponent. Against Spence, he must bring his A game.
2764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: July 03, 2021, 10:43:42 AM
He might be doubtful, but still more than 12 hours to decide whether it's a go or no go. In any case, the game will be in their homecourt, and the last time they play, they won and blasted the Bucks even with Giannis is present on the game. They played very tight defense. So not sure if Lopez can duplicate his performance. So let's see.

Judging on the current odds on the sports bookies, seems like Trae Young is likely to play. Giannis will be out for game6 but the good thing about this Bucks team is that they are not so dependent of Giannis IMO. Middleton and Holiday will carry this team to the Finals, Trae Young and company can't handle this Giannis-less Bucks just yet I think.
2765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: July 02, 2021, 11:17:03 PM
Now that everything has ended and we have seen how good the young Gilas Cadets are, we will now move on to the opening of the PBA.

There's no news regarding its finality, but I'm feeling we will see some good news soon and the news would be, PBA WILL START THIS MONTH.

Will Fajardo would still dominate if he comes back?
The recent news says he has already recovered, so I'm hoping to see again an old Fajardo.

With these recent rumors below, I think the probability of us seeing PBA basketball is likely to happen this month.

Good thing that they have a backup plan in case the mayor of Pasig won't approve the proposal of the PBA to held games in Pasig.

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Then PBA will meet with IATF to plan re-start either July 14 or 17.
Plan A is to hold games (semi bubble set-up) at Ynares in Pasig.
If Mayor Vico wont approve, Ynares Antipolo.
2766  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: July 02, 2021, 12:59:51 PM
I almost put a bet on the handicap on what @bisdak40 posted here yesterday. Grin

I know it's risky but I refer to the last game on Gilas and might be another surprising performance just like what they did on Serbia.

That's the end for now but there's another chapter. Lots of international competitions are waiting for Gilas.

TBH, I'm tempted to bet for Dominican Republic because I have a gut feeling that they will lose by double figures due to fatigue and the latter are preparing for them as they have scouted the Gilas players already and knew who will be guarded. I just can't pull the trigger as I feel I betrayed my country if I do so lol.

Next stop for the Gilas is the FIBA Asia Cup which will be held in Indonesia next month and I wonder who will be in the final roster as this will be the real thing that they have prepared for.
2767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero on: July 01, 2021, 09:38:14 PM
Because of the action of Donaire, I now love Casimero and I'm supporting him whoever he will face.

Why can't a Filipino boxer just follow Manny, he is humble all the time that's why he is now one of the legends in sports.
Donaire had his time, but next time he loses, we might not be able to see him come back again.

Donaire is just maybe making sure the next fight would be huge and he could win and I think it will not happen against Casimero as he is in his prime now.

Agree, if Donaire will lost against Casimero then that might be the end of his career. If he fight in a rematch with Inoue and loses chances of him fighting again is possible because of the "alibi" that Inoue is a champion of course and just hard to beat and he might go on fighting B level fighters for retirement.

This fight with Casimero is a brainchild of Rachel who in fact posted on her social media account after her meeting with some Top Rank officials and now they are the ones pulling it off because of some baseless allegations.
2768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: June 30, 2021, 09:43:47 PM
I can't believe it ended as a close match, I was just reading some comments and it says that the Philippines were up in the game but they lose in the end. Still, bookies are even giving them a 30 points handicap and yet they just ended the game with a single-digit loss. I'll just watch the highlights to see how the Philippines gave a good fight.

Wow, even without Dwight Ramos these young cadets managed to kept the game close. Losing by only a single digit is a great achievement IMO and also a morale booster for them going into a game with the Dominican Republic. The Serbians routed Dominican Republic by almost 20 points and I'm excited on how these young fellows perform against the latter.

Odds already out on the bookies, Philippines +7.5@1.91, who is brave enough to take this hehe.
2769  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero on: June 30, 2021, 12:49:11 PM
When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.

If only Rachel Donaire is not into this word war with Casimero i think everything going to work out well.

I just don't know what's with the mind Of Nonito's manager that it ended this way or they are too greedy that they think they would lose to Casimero if this fight happens and that rematch with Inoue won't become a reality.

Samson got Delilah while Nonito got Rachel, the cause of his downfall lol.
2770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Estrada vs Gonzalez Trilogy - Oct 16 on: June 30, 2021, 11:30:34 AM
@bisdak40 - bro, what's you call on this? I know that you are a big fan of Chocolatito, hehehe

These two deserve this trilogy or even a fourth fight if the third fight will still be close.

I'm a big fan of chocolatito as this man looks amazing in the back when he was still undefeated but this Estrada is the one whom I'll never forget as he is the one who dealt Milan Milendo the biggest loss of his career which was his first title fight if my memory serves me right  Grin.

Roman Gonzales will still be the underdog going into this fight but still, I'm going to root for him as he have a high possibility to pull an upset this time.
2771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: June 29, 2021, 10:01:41 PM
If this match is pursued and done, I think they can now pursue the Garcia match.  Cheesy

I wonder if Garcia would still want Manny if Manny will destroy Spence. And if Manny loses in the Spence fight, the interest will also drop in his fight against Garcia, so I think what Garcia's camp is protecting here is the current value, or maybe they are just making news but their case is not really that strong.

Manny has nothing to lose in this fight and win or lose against Spence, the interest of Garcia to fight Manny will not drop as it will always be a money-fight regardless of the outcome of the Spence fight.

I wonder if Manny could still focus on his training with this recent spat with the President of the Philippines. This recent issue had an effect on his popularity as a politician and also a little bit as a boxer as the focus will not be the same when he has nothing to worry about back in his homeland.
2772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero on: June 29, 2021, 07:45:23 AM
I think it's not an excuse. The fight between Donaire and Casimero is an idea of Donaire itself.

As I read in news, Casimero said he has complied with VADA and WBC drug-testing paperwork and is ready to be tested anytime. Donaire claims the files have not been submitted. Casimero's camp can submit it easily with no problem and check what will be the next thing that Donaire will ask after that.

Or maybe promotions so they are making sounds? Smiley

True, but fighting Casimero is very dangerous that it might ruin his plan for a rematch with Inoue. With the link below it seems that the Donaire's camp is no longer interested in fighting Quadro Alas because Top Rank big boss have promised Donaire that it could give him the Inoue rematch directly.

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Since Inoue is under contract with Top Rank, Arum said he can arrange Donaire’s next fight to be against the Japanese Monster.

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http://philboxing.com/news/story-157066.html
2773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: June 29, 2021, 05:19:49 AM
Defeating Phoenix Suns 3 times in a row is so much of a hard task even with Kawhi Leonard playing or not. That's what Clippers fans should admit.

The ball is round but we can't just apply it to the current Clipper's situation. Ivica Zubac is also questionable on Game 5 making it tougher to face the healthy Suns.

Not an either Clippers or Suns fan here but I'm hoping for the series extension.

Might be a tough hill to climb but them winning game5, winning the WCF is not a slim possibility.

As what have stadus pointed out that the Clippers was not totally dominated by the Suns in this series and it could have been a 3-2 lead for the Clippers if those FT's in game2 went in.

Clippers will be playing at home with Kawhi possibly playing so it might be a morale booster for them and a possible game7 would put the Suns in a pressure cooker which i don't know if they can handle.

This series turned out to be an exciting one even if Kawhi is out  Smiley.
2774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: June 28, 2021, 10:00:06 PM
They cannot wait on it as there's already a contract. Manny should honor the contract but if not, he has to pay what they are demanding for.

That's a big amount of money that he has to pay.
Three million dollars to stand aside is a huge sum and it depends upon whether Mayweather and his management will be willing to give that kind of money. The problem is that how much money the management is planning to make with Manny Pacquiao and Errol Spence and what is the pay share each fighters are getting, if we know those guaranteed purses we will know whether they will settle it and continue with this fight.

Why is Mayweather here? the fight is between Manny and Spence and the lawsuit was coming from Paradigm Sports,

https://sports.inquirer.net/427126/pacquiao-faces-breach-of-contract-lawsuit-from-paradigm-sports
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Manny Pacquiao will have one more fight before he takes on Errol Spence Jr. in August.

As per The Athletic, combat sports manager Audie Attar has filed a lawsuit against Manny Pacquiao claiming the eight-division world champion breached contract when he agreed to fight Spence for WBC and IBF welterweight titles.

Manny should have a fight before this fight, and that is the fight against Garcia but it did not happen, that's the reason why the case happen.

From what I've understood in the article, Paradigm Sports would not sue Manny if only he fights Mayweather or the two will have a rematch.

Clearly, this is a way for Paradigm to disrupt this fight and possibly milk some money out of the Pacman camp.

This issue has already reached the camp of the Filipino camp and they said that this lawsuit will not win against them, hopefully.
2775  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero on: June 28, 2021, 09:13:36 PM
It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?

I think it's not compulsory in every fight as some fighters AFAIK don't go with that process. That would only be required if the other camp would want that they will be tested before the fight, correct me if I'm wrong.

In the case of Mayweather vs Pacman, the former initiated or asked the commission that they will be tested by random and in a surprising manner.

I don't think that the fight will be canceled because of this issue because neither fighter is doing this doping thing.
2776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Nakatani June 26 on: June 28, 2021, 01:17:54 PM
That should make both have a great payday, there's no restriction anymore, they can both make money from gate entrance and PPV as usual, and the current win of Loma will make his career boast again although he loses against Lopez in their first fight.

This would be a big fight, and I'm seeing very competitive betting odds as well.

Boxing in the US is starting to become normal once again and I think the promoters will be making up for the lost time and money  Smiley.

As what had Teofimo Sr said during the interview, they would love to make the fight this December so this will be the second biggest fight of the year next to Manny vs Spence.

About the odds, I'm incline to believe that it would still be Loma who will be put as the favorite with the recent performance he have against Nakatani. Lopez was having a hard time disposing of the tough Japanese while Loma seems to have an easier time dismantling him. Could this be the gauge on who will be the favorite this time around?  Cheesy
2777  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: June 28, 2021, 01:07:27 PM
I think the Clippers will be eliminated in game 5.
Without Leonard they are inconsistent offensively.
I don't trust Paul George as much as Leonard down the stretch. Those missed free throws are costing them too much.
While the Suns have the perfect momentum in going all the way to the Finals.
Now, the odds are interesting. I guess it's best to put a bet on Clippers +6 point spread as the series had always a close game. 6 points might be a huge lead for the Suns to win the game.


Yeah, those free throws really cost them this series but I still give the Clippers a fighting chance this game5 with the way they play game 4. It could have gone to their side if only they shoot a high percentage in the first half of that game. Even though they are down by a double-digit but still they made it close in the dying seconds. Besides it is hard to close out a series as they always say so with the current odds the Clippers are in, I'm rooting for them to extend this series to six games.
2778  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: June 27, 2021, 09:28:47 PM
COLUMN: Are fans wrong to hold PBA stars to high standards?

Yes, we are wrong because we think they are a perfect model to follow.

They are just humans, they make mistakes as we do, so we have to understand them.
These 3 in this column are the most popular as they made mistakes, but at the end of the day, they are just human.

Their job is to only entertain us, their personal life is their own.

I think it is the norm of our society as Filipinos that we should be conservative and you are right, PBA players are human too that can commit mistakes.

What happened in their personal life is theirs to take but in the Philippines, that's a big scoop for the media that can generate a million views so it's hard to pass up hehe.

In the NBA, there are things like those (attached link) but it is not a big deal for them.
2779  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: June 27, 2021, 06:08:32 AM
Damn, that's a big money involved, $3 million ++. So we might be deprived of the fight if Attar will pursue this case (if no Manny settlement outside). Just history repeating itself again for Pacquiao. He just surround himself with people who really don't know the ins and outs o boxing and just making deals.

Remember his previous advisor? Michael Koncz? and now Sean Gibbons. Let's do hope that we can still see Pacquiao vs Spence this year.

This is a result of the greediness of some of the people that surrounded Pacquaio. Not a good in the promotion of the upcoming fight with Spence but with the amount of money involve in this fight, I think Paradigm will agree to a settlement and Pacman's money will be less than expected.

Due to Manny's forgiving personality, he is prone to abuse to greedy people who want to exploit him.
2780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Nakatani June 26 on: June 27, 2021, 04:52:34 AM
Loma is back, he won via RSC (referee stop contest), in round 9. It was a total mismatch as Loma started very aggressive in the first round. They even had a accidental head butt, but it was above the eye so it didn't bothered him.

I would say that he is like 90% in this fight, we wait for Lopez vs Kambosos fight. If Teofimo Lopez win, then perhaps we should see a rematch. Congrats to those who beat on Loma here.

I'm for Loma but I lost my bet here since I'm expecting a decision win by Loma but nevertheless I'm happy with the performance shown here by the former ranked number 1 P4P. Nakatani is a very tough fighter but Loma's left straight did the damage to him.

Hope Lopez will take care of Kambosos so we can see a rematch in the yea end or if not, next year as it would be the next big fight in the smaller division.

@Baofeng, congrats bro.
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