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2761  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: June 29, 2021, 10:01:41 PM
If this match is pursued and done, I think they can now pursue the Garcia match.  Cheesy

I wonder if Garcia would still want Manny if Manny will destroy Spence. And if Manny loses in the Spence fight, the interest will also drop in his fight against Garcia, so I think what Garcia's camp is protecting here is the current value, or maybe they are just making news but their case is not really that strong.

Manny has nothing to lose in this fight and win or lose against Spence, the interest of Garcia to fight Manny will not drop as it will always be a money-fight regardless of the outcome of the Spence fight.

I wonder if Manny could still focus on his training with this recent spat with the President of the Philippines. This recent issue had an effect on his popularity as a politician and also a little bit as a boxer as the focus will not be the same when he has nothing to worry about back in his homeland.
2762  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero on: June 29, 2021, 07:45:23 AM
I think it's not an excuse. The fight between Donaire and Casimero is an idea of Donaire itself.

As I read in news, Casimero said he has complied with VADA and WBC drug-testing paperwork and is ready to be tested anytime. Donaire claims the files have not been submitted. Casimero's camp can submit it easily with no problem and check what will be the next thing that Donaire will ask after that.

Or maybe promotions so they are making sounds? Smiley

True, but fighting Casimero is very dangerous that it might ruin his plan for a rematch with Inoue. With the link below it seems that the Donaire's camp is no longer interested in fighting Quadro Alas because Top Rank big boss have promised Donaire that it could give him the Inoue rematch directly.

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Since Inoue is under contract with Top Rank, Arum said he can arrange Donaire’s next fight to be against the Japanese Monster.

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http://philboxing.com/news/story-157066.html
2763  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: June 29, 2021, 05:19:49 AM
Defeating Phoenix Suns 3 times in a row is so much of a hard task even with Kawhi Leonard playing or not. That's what Clippers fans should admit.

The ball is round but we can't just apply it to the current Clipper's situation. Ivica Zubac is also questionable on Game 5 making it tougher to face the healthy Suns.

Not an either Clippers or Suns fan here but I'm hoping for the series extension.

Might be a tough hill to climb but them winning game5, winning the WCF is not a slim possibility.

As what have stadus pointed out that the Clippers was not totally dominated by the Suns in this series and it could have been a 3-2 lead for the Clippers if those FT's in game2 went in.

Clippers will be playing at home with Kawhi possibly playing so it might be a morale booster for them and a possible game7 would put the Suns in a pressure cooker which i don't know if they can handle.

This series turned out to be an exciting one even if Kawhi is out  Smiley.
2764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: June 28, 2021, 10:00:06 PM
They cannot wait on it as there's already a contract. Manny should honor the contract but if not, he has to pay what they are demanding for.

That's a big amount of money that he has to pay.
Three million dollars to stand aside is a huge sum and it depends upon whether Mayweather and his management will be willing to give that kind of money. The problem is that how much money the management is planning to make with Manny Pacquiao and Errol Spence and what is the pay share each fighters are getting, if we know those guaranteed purses we will know whether they will settle it and continue with this fight.

Why is Mayweather here? the fight is between Manny and Spence and the lawsuit was coming from Paradigm Sports,

https://sports.inquirer.net/427126/pacquiao-faces-breach-of-contract-lawsuit-from-paradigm-sports
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Manny Pacquiao will have one more fight before he takes on Errol Spence Jr. in August.

As per The Athletic, combat sports manager Audie Attar has filed a lawsuit against Manny Pacquiao claiming the eight-division world champion breached contract when he agreed to fight Spence for WBC and IBF welterweight titles.

Manny should have a fight before this fight, and that is the fight against Garcia but it did not happen, that's the reason why the case happen.

From what I've understood in the article, Paradigm Sports would not sue Manny if only he fights Mayweather or the two will have a rematch.

Clearly, this is a way for Paradigm to disrupt this fight and possibly milk some money out of the Pacman camp.

This issue has already reached the camp of the Filipino camp and they said that this lawsuit will not win against them, hopefully.
2765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero on: June 28, 2021, 09:13:36 PM
It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?

I think it's not compulsory in every fight as some fighters AFAIK don't go with that process. That would only be required if the other camp would want that they will be tested before the fight, correct me if I'm wrong.

In the case of Mayweather vs Pacman, the former initiated or asked the commission that they will be tested by random and in a surprising manner.

I don't think that the fight will be canceled because of this issue because neither fighter is doing this doping thing.
2766  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Nakatani June 26 on: June 28, 2021, 01:17:54 PM
That should make both have a great payday, there's no restriction anymore, they can both make money from gate entrance and PPV as usual, and the current win of Loma will make his career boast again although he loses against Lopez in their first fight.

This would be a big fight, and I'm seeing very competitive betting odds as well.

Boxing in the US is starting to become normal once again and I think the promoters will be making up for the lost time and money  Smiley.

As what had Teofimo Sr said during the interview, they would love to make the fight this December so this will be the second biggest fight of the year next to Manny vs Spence.

About the odds, I'm incline to believe that it would still be Loma who will be put as the favorite with the recent performance he have against Nakatani. Lopez was having a hard time disposing of the tough Japanese while Loma seems to have an easier time dismantling him. Could this be the gauge on who will be the favorite this time around?  Cheesy
2767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: June 28, 2021, 01:07:27 PM
I think the Clippers will be eliminated in game 5.
Without Leonard they are inconsistent offensively.
I don't trust Paul George as much as Leonard down the stretch. Those missed free throws are costing them too much.
While the Suns have the perfect momentum in going all the way to the Finals.
Now, the odds are interesting. I guess it's best to put a bet on Clippers +6 point spread as the series had always a close game. 6 points might be a huge lead for the Suns to win the game.


Yeah, those free throws really cost them this series but I still give the Clippers a fighting chance this game5 with the way they play game 4. It could have gone to their side if only they shoot a high percentage in the first half of that game. Even though they are down by a double-digit but still they made it close in the dying seconds. Besides it is hard to close out a series as they always say so with the current odds the Clippers are in, I'm rooting for them to extend this series to six games.
2768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: June 27, 2021, 09:28:47 PM
COLUMN: Are fans wrong to hold PBA stars to high standards?

Yes, we are wrong because we think they are a perfect model to follow.

They are just humans, they make mistakes as we do, so we have to understand them.
These 3 in this column are the most popular as they made mistakes, but at the end of the day, they are just human.

Their job is to only entertain us, their personal life is their own.

I think it is the norm of our society as Filipinos that we should be conservative and you are right, PBA players are human too that can commit mistakes.

What happened in their personal life is theirs to take but in the Philippines, that's a big scoop for the media that can generate a million views so it's hard to pass up hehe.

In the NBA, there are things like those (attached link) but it is not a big deal for them.
2769  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: June 27, 2021, 06:08:32 AM
Damn, that's a big money involved, $3 million ++. So we might be deprived of the fight if Attar will pursue this case (if no Manny settlement outside). Just history repeating itself again for Pacquiao. He just surround himself with people who really don't know the ins and outs o boxing and just making deals.

Remember his previous advisor? Michael Koncz? and now Sean Gibbons. Let's do hope that we can still see Pacquiao vs Spence this year.

This is a result of the greediness of some of the people that surrounded Pacquaio. Not a good in the promotion of the upcoming fight with Spence but with the amount of money involve in this fight, I think Paradigm will agree to a settlement and Pacman's money will be less than expected.

Due to Manny's forgiving personality, he is prone to abuse to greedy people who want to exploit him.
2770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Nakatani June 26 on: June 27, 2021, 04:52:34 AM
Loma is back, he won via RSC (referee stop contest), in round 9. It was a total mismatch as Loma started very aggressive in the first round. They even had a accidental head butt, but it was above the eye so it didn't bothered him.

I would say that he is like 90% in this fight, we wait for Lopez vs Kambosos fight. If Teofimo Lopez win, then perhaps we should see a rematch. Congrats to those who beat on Loma here.

I'm for Loma but I lost my bet here since I'm expecting a decision win by Loma but nevertheless I'm happy with the performance shown here by the former ranked number 1 P4P. Nakatani is a very tough fighter but Loma's left straight did the damage to him.

Hope Lopez will take care of Kambosos so we can see a rematch in the yea end or if not, next year as it would be the next big fight in the smaller division.

@Baofeng, congrats bro.
2771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Nakatani June 26 on: June 26, 2021, 11:46:51 PM
The reason i think Lomachenko lost the fight against Lopez is because he was really slow in the first few rounds and it looks like he was taking it too easy and was confident in finishing the fight in the later rounds and if he is not making that mistake it is impossible to defeat Lomachenko and i would love to see the rematch between Lopez and Lomachenko which means i am expecting a victory here.

IMO, I don't think he was slow, he was just cautious and giving too much respect to Lopez that is why Lopez got most of the rounds in the early stage of that fight but I still do think that it's not a convincing win by Lopes. That fight could go either way, depending on the judges.

Today's fight is just anything roadblock for Loma to redeem himself and have that rematch with Lopez and I think he will have no problem getting it done.

A rematch with Lopez is a big fight this year, next to Manny vs Spence.
2772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: June 26, 2021, 10:59:21 PM
I got the Clippers in game 4.

I have a feeling that they'll be able to even the series by playing the same intensity they've shown in game 3.
There's no much spread movement, so it's still good to take the ML for the home team.

I'm taking the under 218 and Clippers ML. Good luck everyone!

Same here, I'm tailing on the Clippers to win game 4, that's the only bet, for now, I don't want to bet on the total as I find the winner/loser more interesting. I'm watching this game with my family, we will have a fun Sunday especially if the Clippers will win.

I've lost my bet on game3 as I thought that a Chris Paul comeback would bring more problems for the Clippers but I'm wrong, playoff Paul George did show up and had a monster game3. I'm just going to tail you guys and won't waste any time thinking on whose gonna win tonight hehe.
2773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: June 26, 2021, 01:24:57 PM
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PBA Commissioner Willie Marcial said the possibility of having fans in attendance during games could happen as long as those coming into the playing venues are vaccinated.
The PBA is still seeking approval from the Inter-Agency Task Force for Emerging Infectious Diseases for its proposed July start for the 2021-22 season, and Marcial said that they’d study the prospect of having fans inside the venues once they get the nod from the government.

So, if approve then we could see the start of the 46th PBA this coming July and the good news is if you vaccinated then you can watch the game live in the venue just like in the NBA.

I think no more bubble set-up for the PBA this as it's very costly to operate, they will just wait for the vaccination to roll out and will even use its players to convince people to be vaccinated for us to be safe from covid and we will be back to normal once again if 70 percent of the population are vaccinated.  
2774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Nakatani June 26 on: June 25, 2021, 10:36:11 PM
@bisdak40 - any livestreaming site bro?

Unfortunately, there is none as of the moment mate. The crack site that I used to follow for boxing live streams is not updated and it seems they were taken down  Sad.

In fights like this, I search on FB if there is someone who broadcast the fight live.

I have now pulled the trigger, Loma by Decision @2.06  Smiley.

Good luck to all and let's enjoy this Loma comeback.
2775  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Nakatani June 26 on: June 25, 2021, 01:59:34 PM
Obviously, he is not 100% in the Lopez fight, but he doesn't want to cancel it and makes excuses. So he continue even though that he has a shoulder injury. Now that it is operate and heal maybe we can see the old version of Loma, who moves a lot and uses awkward angles to throw his opponent off-balance. So I'm expecting him to win against a very game Nakatani here and then setup a rematch with Teo Lopez to try and redeem himself and prove once again that he is the king of this division.

I do hope that the injuries that he have on the Lopez fight have fully healed now as to not give excuses if ever an upset may occur but I doubt it will happen  Smiley.

Below are some options on how to bet for the upcoming fight and I will go with Loma via Decision as that Japanese is a tough nut to crack and that odds is attractive enough AFAIC.

2776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: June 24, 2021, 12:28:55 PM
We are about to end this month and there's still no clear update as to when the PBA season will commence.

I'm a bit bored already, I like to see some action and why aren't they making news or update regarding the new season.
Our eyes are focus on the FIBA ASIA qualifier, but we also like to see the PBA start its season as I believe they have started practicing for almost a month already.

No news in their official website, anyone had some rumors from other sources?

There's an article on the FB page of somebody that posted all about PBA and he said that in a few days, IATF will tackle the plea of the PBA commissioner's office about the possible opening next month. I just forget where that page is but I think there is some truth to it as NCR is now declared a low risk area so restrictions will also ease up.

Don't be bored mate, there's still the ongoing NBA playoffs happening.  Grin
2777  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: June 24, 2021, 08:39:31 AM
Hawks not only cover but hit the money line dam.  Not a Trae fan since he dismantled my knicks but the dude absolutely killed it.  The shoulder shimmy 3pt was cold. 

Yeah, and that 2 free throws to seal the win? ice cold. He also had a back board alley-oop to Collins.

What's with the Hawks that made them win games in the playoffs  Grin? On paper, they seemed the huge underdog because of the lack of size but it does not translate correctly on the court that is why i'm losing some coins betting against them lol.

Now, game 3 between Clippers vs Suns, Clippers now 2.02 ML, very attractive odds. But since CP3 is reported to be back in the line-up, it will be hard for the Clippers to win even if it is in their home court.

With CP3's expected return on game3, i think the Clippers would be in trouble as the Suns backcourt general could dismantle them sans Kawhi Leonard. Game2 was the best time for the Clippers to win against the Suns but they blew that up.

With the current odds, i'm rooting for the Suns to put the Clippers in the 0-3 hole.
2778  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero on: June 24, 2021, 08:21:28 AM
At 32 years old Casimero does not have the most impressive career compared to a hall of famer like Donaire. This will be his opportunity to live up to his own hype. He's been very vocal about wanting to fight Inoue and now is his opportunity to earn that fight. The height and experience advantage of Donaire will be difficult to overcome. I haven't seen odds yet but I assume most people will bet on Donaire.

Most probably, that would be the case, Donaire will be the favorite to win this fight as he is more popular than Casimero and with his recent win against Oubaali, his stocks went a little notch north.

Personally, i'm for Casimero's side here because if he wins against Donaire then Inoue would be having a hard time against him while if it's against Donaire, he would have an easier fight because he has now the experience of how the latter fight and would adjust where necessary to win convincingly.

If you look at the social media, there's a spat going on between Quadro Alas and the Filipino Flash that could fuel to this fight and somehow sell to those who are following them.

2779  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: June 23, 2021, 10:06:16 PM
Kinda surprising because China players are tall but their NBA Player Zhou Qi didn't play in that game but overall, its a tune-up game only and it ended up as a draw.
In terms of performance though, yes it looks surprising but this just shows that the future of these young players are bright. I just hope that they will have a successful careers in basketball.

Height-wise, I think the Gilas cadets now are at par with the current Chinese roster and I'm too is surprised with their recent performance against China. Though it's only a tune-up game still it boosts the morale and confidence of these young cagers.

There are players from both sides that didn't suit for that game because it's only an exhibition match, the only thing that the cadets gained from that is the experience that they have played against a powerhouse of Asia because they might not meet them in the qualifiers.

2780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: June 23, 2021, 11:23:24 AM
^^ Thanks for the tips, I was just looking at the odds before the game, and thinking the over will be a good bet here. Over 222.5 is currently at @1.91 so that's a juicy odd already, so I'm going to go with the same bet as yours.

Although without Kawhi, it seems that Clippers have settled down with Paul George as the leading and then Reggie Jackson as the second option now. I think the key for them to win and stop that winning streak of the Suns is how to stop Devin Booker who is tearing them with his mid jump shot and assists.

That was a low-scoring game as defense on Booker is intense but still, they won via that alley-oop to DA.

Damn, I could not believe that a superstar's knees would buckle under pressure, missing two clutch free throws that could have sealed the win for the Clippers, I think this will haunt Paul George if they will lose the series  Smiley.
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