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2761  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Investors need to know about charts reading too on: April 17, 2022, 04:28:25 PM
Monitoring charts is not a habit that most long-term investors do in my opinion, they don't really like charts because their main target is profit. Charts are needed, Yes they need to analyze it but only when they want to invest temporarily after that they just wait for the profit alarm to sound. Charts are much more often monitored by a trader to profit from his trading strategy. But I don't blame you for saying investors need to understand charts too.
2762  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: April 17, 2022, 04:21:18 PM
I think we have to understand that whatever Barcelona did at the end of the season was the best that they probably could have done in this season.

If you just look at the start of the season and compare that to the end I think we will find significant improvement in the team. I agree that the club is in Big Debt but I think the financial situation is going to stabilize and they will be able to come out of that.

Barcelona has a lot of other income outside of the Champions League and Europa League and I think even though it would have helped a lot, it's not something that good absolutely break or make the economy of Barcelona.
After Barcelona reach an agreement with their new sponsor next season Barcelona's financial condition is expected to be better and that will allow them to return to being good competitors in Europe. This season they have been very chaotic, but Xavi managed to take steps to make it more stable especially about the way he recruits players so that Barcelona's expenses are not too big.

For now, I don't think the Europa League will still get much attention among football fans considering there are no real favorites in the semifinals. Obviously the fan base of the team in the semi-finals is much lower on this forum than the fan base of Barcelona. Unfortunately, Xavi ultimately failed in the Europa League.

2763  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Kesalahan Umum Trading Aset Crypto on: April 17, 2022, 04:06:07 PM
Staking USDT tidak terlalu besar keuntungan yang diberikan, daripada staking USDT mending deposito atau reksadana sekalian karena hampir semua exchange yang support staking USDT hanya memberikan 10% APY setiap tahunnya, dalam arti kata hampir sama dan hanya selisih beberapa persen saja dari deposito bank atau reksadana.
Yang pasti masih akan menjadi pilihan bagus juga bagi mereka yang ingin keuntungan pasif dengan resiko volatilitas yang kecil. Artinya semakin kecil tingkatan resiko yang ada maka semakin kecil pula APY yang didapatkan. Tapi disini juga bisa jadi celah untuk terjadinya kesalahan seandainya platform yang dipilih tidak bereputasi baik maka asetnya juga bisa hangus kebawa lari sama pemilik platform dengan berbagai alasan meskipun itu sekedar paranoid saja.

Kalau staking lebih bagus di koin yang bisa memberikan APY diatas 40% atau kalau dibawah angka tersebut mending modal digunakan untuk trading saja. Bahkan keuntungan jauh lebih besar trading daripada staking namun tetap waktu yang tepat kapan harus membeli dan menjual koin yang kita tradingkan.
Semakin tinggi APY maka semakin besar juga resiko yang dipertaruhkan. Pastinya APY yang tinggi untuk altcoin tertentu diakibatkan volatilitas harganya sangat tinggi dan mungkin resiko penurunannya sangat besar dibandingkan kemungkinan naiknya harga. Trading dan Staking hanya pilihan, tapi kalau memang di trading bisa menghasilkan sesuatu yang memuaskan maka saya pikir staking malah tidak perlu.



Kalau mau staking tidak hanya APY yang tinggi saja diperhatikan namun stabilitas harga koin itu juga perlu di analisis, pokok utama dalam staking untuk tujuan mendapatkan kepastian keuntungan tanpa mengurangi nilai modal awal jadi pemilihan koin dalam staking harus lebih selektif, apalagi lagi sekarang ini banyak proyek baru menawarkan APY fantastis tapi tidak realitis, jadi tetapi DYOR sebelum bertindak.
Untung banyak, jadi milyader atau OKB di crypto itu rata-rata adalah fantasi karena rasio keberhasilan dibandingkan kegagalan masih tidak berimbang. Hal itu mungkin diakibatkan oleh kesalahan trader baik secara teknik ataupun berbagai alasan lain sehingga mereka gagal memaksimalkan peluang untuk mengambil keuntungan. Umumnya beli rendah jual tinggi, tapi masih banyak juga beli saat sudah tinggi dan malah menjual pada saat koreksi. Keuntungan yang fantastis itu adalah hayalan meski beberapa diantara kita bisa mendapatkannya.
2764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: April 17, 2022, 03:46:03 PM
Manchester United's struggle to qualify for the Champions League next season looks very tough if they lose to Liverpool in the next match. Liverpool's chances of winning the game are much better than Manchester United's, and here Arsenal and Tottenham who have both dropped points in the previous game can take advantage of it to keep away from Manchester United.

Of course I want Manchester United to win against Liverpool, but that's an unreasonable expectation. Liverpool, who just won the FA Cup title yesterday, seems very motivated to overtake Manchester City, and as a result, Manchester United will not benefit.
2765  Economy / Economics / Re: Inflation and investment on: April 17, 2022, 03:34:24 PM
If you want true stability during inflation, precious metals is what you might diversify into. The individual percentage isn't particularly relevant, as long as you invest what you can. I haven't seen anyone that would be satisfied with their purchasing power going down with high inflation rates, so investing in something that has some solvency is better than letting your funds sit and lose value. People choose to not do anything and that's their prerogative, but even if you're capped at 20 percent, better than what most people are doing.
Apart from cryptocurrencies, precious metals are the right choice of investment assets for everyone. I've been doing it for a long time and I can probably say that most of you have invested something there too. Indeed I want good financial stability, I know that only by having a side income stability can be achieved. In addition, I am also thinking of investing in a bank or staking which allows me to get passive income. But as long as inflation is high enough and not better off in the long run then both investment options may not be of much help because of the low annual interest and risk involved.

Although the cost of living in my country is low compared to other countries, during inflation the financial stability is really chaotic. It's hard to achieve stability, but so far I'm just trying to make it look good.
2766  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Newbie s.d Hero) V.2 [UPDATE] on: April 16, 2022, 08:45:55 PM
Beberapa tips cara quote yang bisa agan pelajari:
Saya pikir dia bisa om, cuma pura-pura tidak bisa ataupun lagi cari sensasi dengan reaksi orang-orang. Buktinya dia kemarin-kemarin bisa kok.

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384545.msg59528383#msg59528383
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5362912.msg59534715#msg59534715
3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5362912.msg59537736#msg59537736

Kalaupun memang benar-benar tidak bisa, berarti dia mengabaikan semua saran yang sudah ada. Tapi saya merasa dia tidak mau edit saja. Buktinya dia bisa kok:
1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394208.msg59881220#msg59881220


2767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: April 16, 2022, 08:26:23 PM
I also think PSG will not wait until last week to confirm the title. They will increase their points gap from second-placed Marseille and secure the title. The best chance to increase the distance of the points from Marseille is to win against Marseille today. PSG would not want to miss this opportunity.
I don't know which country you are from, but I think PSG vs Marseille will be played tomorrow, not today. Of course PSG are looking for a win to keep the points distance and increase the chances of winning the title this season. A win against Marseille will get them closer to the title so I don't think they will waste more time on that.

PSG have failed in many competitions, so the domestic title is his final aim of the season which is almost certainly theirs. I don't think they failed even though defeat is still possible.
2768  Economy / Reputation / Re: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source on: April 15, 2022, 03:59:49 PM
I've been a bad Merit source lately Undecided I have more than enough source sMerit to create a Sr. Member, and if I add my "personal" stash of earned sMerit to the tally, it's enough to create 2 Legendary members. So, I'd appreciate some help getting rid of them Cheesy
Ideally, some good users who's posts I can read and can bump up 50 Merit each would be great. Feel free to nominate yourself, don't forget to add links to worthy posts, and help me get rid of some sMerit Smiley
I'd really like to point out some posts that are worthy of your review at this point, but I'm sorry that I don't know exactly what type of posts you're expecting. But these are just some of my posts:
1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202929.msg59862056#msg59862056
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389036.msg59481669#msg59481669
3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387986.msg59493300#msg59493300
4. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389354.msg59504882#msg59504882
5. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5390236.msg59568640#msg59568640
6. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5349270.msg59537690#msg59537690
7. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4523027.msg59474892#msg59474892
8. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381613.msg59020150#msg59020150
9. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5361037.msg59022860#msg59022860
10. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368881.msg59085185#msg59085185
11. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375489.msg58964173#msg58964173

Note to shitposters: please don't waste our time, it's futile.
I don't know if I'm one of them, but so far I've taken an important step towards improvement. The Pharmacists have been helping me all along, but each of you has a different way of helping. Sorry, if all the posts that I propose do not match what you want.  Smiley
2769  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk sell 10 ads or 9? on: April 15, 2022, 03:44:48 PM
Instead of creating a thread on this, why don't you ask thyemos directly in the already provided thread? In addition, I think theymos has explained that there are only 9 slots for sale, leaving only 1 for Factoid slots (0 chance at the moment) with the aim of Interesting facts, funny quotes, hints, info, and ads given away to supporters. Described here, of course: https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfo
2770  Economy / Economics / Re: Inflation and investment on: April 15, 2022, 03:31:45 PM
-snip-
For now I am still quite comfortable with the percentage of my ability to invest around 10%-20% every month of my total income, but when the crisis and inflation continue without knowing when it will improve then personally that percentage will decrease gradually.

Additional income, maybe that's a solution that can help but yeah that's the problem. The signature campaign might help for a while, but we can't expect it to last long as it will definitely stop at any time. Obviously we need additional income.

1. Of course. Assuming that you have your emergency and rainy day fund sorted out already, what else would I spend the money on? Unless you want to start a business or something then what else but invest.

2. Try your best to increase your income and lower your unnecessary spending. Those things that are given as good finance advice in general(books, etc), regardless if in an inflationary economy or not.
Of course we still need to think about investing even though we can only have 5% per month of total income, that is different from savings because I also have savings that I don't use for investments that I will only use when urgent. Of course I'm thinking of business, this is another way to strike a financial balance between expenses and income and it's true that so far I've tried to keep down the very non-urgent expenses that I then shift to savings.

But it's still all about me, but what about you? Maybe I can compare them to do something better.
2771  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Newbie s.d Hero) V.2 [UPDATE] on: April 15, 2022, 03:13:19 PM
Saya sudah baca ini posting dan menurut saya memang layak untuk mendapatkan beberapa merit tambahan karena penyampaiannya juga lumayan bagus. Dua dari 3 posting yang diajukan sudah mendapatkan apresiasi dari 2 kontributor dan saya hanya ingin mengambil langkah apresiasi tambahan saja terutama karena itu adalah posting terbaru dari agan.


Posting yang agan ajukan dari nomor 4-10 sebenarnya merupakan posting lama yang agan buat pada tahun 2018. Mungkin tidak lagi uptudate jika minta direview sekarang karena itu adalah posting 4 tahun lalu. Tapi sebenarnya sudah di review juga di thread lama: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2840438.msg47278793#msg47278793 sehingga menurut saya agan tidak perlu mengajukan ulang untuk direview. Kalau mau direview untuk kedepannya maka ada baiknya jika agan melengkapinya dengan posting terbaru yang uptudate dengan situasi dan pembahasan yang sekarang (bukan yang 4 tahun lalu). Hanya itu dari saya.
2772  Economy / Economics / Re: Inflation and investment on: April 15, 2022, 01:11:00 PM
Probably to ask not to answer as this would be a monologue but that's not important.

Rather than focusing on the how to deal part I really want to point out one of the most important thing, the complete busting of the myth that when inflation hit a lot of investments will flock to either crypto or crypto-related business like there is no tomorrow. For years I've told people that when inflation starts biting your revenues there is far less money you can afford to invest as a bigger chunk of your income gets to basic necessities.
So if some think high inflation, economic crisis, and so on will mean billions poured into investments you're deeply mistaken. You don't think of investing when you can't afford food.
I know that it was a mistake and people need to change their mindset about it for the better. Obviously meeting basic needs is one of the most important, meaning that only after meeting those needs can be used to invest while we also need reserve funds for something that is really needed in an emergency.

I don't think I've ever "invested" more than 50% of my monthly income, probably there is a difference because of age and family but when somebody starts cramming all his money into "investments" he might regret it when he realizes some of the profits are spent on prostate exams.
Of course, when we talk about income I mean my usual monthly wage and I don't consider savings as an investment.
Honestly, I am also the same, but 50% for investment I can only do 3 to 4 times a year depending on how many needs I have to fulfill each month. It's not a consistent percentage, while 20% is my average so far.



Loans were recommended as one method of attempting financial stability during inflation. Inflation can rise at a faster rate than loan interest, which could result in smaller payments over time.
I haven't thought about loans, it might be risky for me while currently 20% of the total income I can still invest regardless of which assets I like including gold and crypto.

10%-20% of monthly income can be invested in an infinite number of ways. It could be inaccurate to think of investment only in terms of assets like stocks or crypto. Proper exercise and a healthy diet are investments. Improving life habits can be an investment. Its good if a person can see improvement over time. As long as circumstances are improving in some way, then investments could be paying off.
Yes, we can't always think about money while our health is almost neglected just because of something so mundane. Investment is defined as something that is expected to increase, not only a matter of money but a good quality of life is also needed. Thanks for the warning.
2773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: April 15, 2022, 12:48:24 PM
Btw, is it true that Barcelona played at Camp Nou last night? ;
Because I see it seems almost 90% of the Nou Camp stadium is dominated by frankfurt fans, what's wrong with Barcelona?
That is an issue that is being discussed because actually there were some really crazy things that the Barcelona fan base did in that game as it was known to sell tickets to Frankfurt fans for 2 to 5 times more expensive. Based on some news that I read, Barcelona ticket management also made a mistake where they did not limit the opposing fans in this match which in the end almost 30K Frankfurt fans filled the stadium.

In effect, Frankfurt seem to be playing at home without much pressure even though they actually argue that it is a rare opportunity that they should get even when tickets are 5 times more expensive than Barcelona supporters. Xavi and several Barcelona players have questioned this, but Laporta has clarified everything that it was a fatal mistake that resulted in his team losing.
2774  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How weird is it to borrow money and invest into Bitcoin? on: April 14, 2022, 05:56:14 PM
Best if he has other resources to pay that loan aside from waiting for his investment to grow.

This volatile industry is unknown. I mean, the chance is there either you'll gain profits or if the market does the sideways and
you don't have that knowledge and do the panic, the chance of losing a big portion of your loan money will be burned.
Unless you really have a deeper knowledge and you are willing to take that big risk, you never know what the future will be
the chance is equal to everyone it's on you take whether to deal with it or not.
Investing with borrowed money is actually never recommended for those who don't know how the market works. I once heard of a person who was very enthusiastic about investing and selling all his assets temporarily just to have capital to invest, but in the end he had to come out disappointed because the price of the assets he invested did not match his expectations.

From there we can learn that no matter how good the potential, we should only do it for what we can afford to lose. We really shouldn't be greedy because crypto is a very volatile asset so we should also be aware that at any time the price could drop far below what we expected.
2775  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: April 14, 2022, 05:45:21 PM
Is it because Leipzig are playing at Atalanta that you think Leipzig are having a hard time is qualifying?
The first half went pretty well for Leipzig, a goal from Christopher Nkunku put Leipzig in a charge of the match. Atalanta came under pressure in the first half, Gasperini had to apply total attacking a strategy in the second half to equalize the score as well as to open up Atalanta's chances to qualify for the semifinals.
Leipzig played well in the first half and they often jeopardized the Atalanta defense in attack. So far Leipzig have managed to score 1 goal so that the aggregate becomes 1-2. If Leipzig can maintain or continue to improve their game in the second half then maybe they can score a second goal and go through on a better aggregate. Now it all depends on Atalanta, they are not in very good form but there are still chances to be up for grabs during the second half.

I'm looking forward to the Barcelona vs Frankfurt match because I think it's the most interesting match today in the Europa League especially because the first leg ended in a draw.
2776  Economy / Economics / Inflation and investment on: April 14, 2022, 05:37:27 PM
We all know that almost the entire world is currently experiencing variable inflation, and my country is no exception. Almost all goods prices have gone up, financial stability has been disrupted and most of us have had to incur additional costs to pay our bills due to rising tariffs and taxes.

At the same time I am still thinking about investing even though I am really having a hard time achieving financial stability at the moment. If previously I could save 50% of my total income for investment then for now only 25% seems difficult. If you are also experiencing this condition, then I have a few questions to answer.

  • Will you continue to invest even if it is only 10%-20% of your total monthly income?
  • How do you achieve financial stability during this inflation?

Share some of your thoughts, I think it would be good to consider especially as long as this kind of condition persists for a long time.
2777  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Begitu bahayakah Cryptocurrency? on: April 14, 2022, 05:23:49 PM
Pemerintah cukup sering mengeluarkan statemen negatif terhadap cryptocurrency semisal tentang dapat digunakan sebagai alat pencucian uang, transaksi ilegal bahkan membantu terorisme. Sebenarnya kalau dipikir-pikir crypto itu hanyalah media jadi ada wajarnya jika seseorang dapat mempergunakannya sebagai alat pembayaran terlepas baik atau buruknya tujuan akhirnya.

Tapi kalau seseorang menyalahkan crypto hanya karena bahaya yang mungkin ditimbulkannya, maka saya pikir itu sangat tidak etis mengingat crypto hanyalah media. Jika tentang bahaya maka fiat pun yang saat ini kita gunakan sehari-hari malah lebih berbahaya jika salah digunakan. Jadi bukan tentang bahayanya menurut saya, tetapi tentang bagaimana seseorang memiliki pola pikir positif terkait sistem pembayaran baru ini.

Yap, karena belum ada lembaga yang mengatur crypto sehingga setiap negara memiliki hak untuk membuat aturan kepada semua lembaga atau person yang ada didalam pemerintahnnya. Selain itu hubungan kenegaraan AS dan Korut yang tidak baik karena nuklir sepertinya juga menjadi latar belakang pelarangan itu. Kemudian jika virgil hanya memberikan kuliah tanpa embel embel negatif mungkin sangksinya tidak akan penjara bahkan mungkin lebih ringan. IMO
 
Dan yang dipermasalahkan oleh jaksa disana sepertinya juga mengenai menghidari sanksi , nuklir dan aktifitas ilegal lainnya.
Namun, hal itu tampaknya tidak menjadi masalah bagi kejaksaan. Menurut Hakim Castel, Griffith tidak bermaksud baik dan malah menunjukkan “keinginan untuk mendidik orang tentang cara menghindari sanksi.”
Itu adalah kesalahan individual yang dilakukan seseorang yang mungkin telah melanggar yuridiksi suatu negara. Tapi kalau hal seperti itu dianggap sebagai bahaya crypto, maka saya pastinya tidak setuju.
2778  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [GUIDE] Pertimbangkan Faktor ini Sebelum Bergabung Dengan Kampanye Berbayar BTC on: April 14, 2022, 05:12:02 PM
Tapi bukannya nimbrung disana juga tidak dapat dipastikan kita diterima tapi, mencoba saran-saran seperti nya bagus, tetapi jangan pernah mencoba keberuntungan anda diterima yang penting penuhi saja apa yanh diharapkan manager dan kalau bisa sering cek apa ada slot baru atau ada yang baru open bounty service, semangat pejuang bayaran btc
Syarat utama untuk dipertimbangkan manager di campaign bayaran bitcoin adalah posting berkualitas, kemudian jumlah merit yang diterima dalam 120 terakhir (kebanyakan campaign) baru setelahnya syarat lanjutan seperti sering posting di board gambilng dan sebagainya. Sebenarnya kalau dilihat dari syarat utama (posting berkualitas) maka saya pikir di bounty pun juga sama tetapi beberapa orang sering salah memahaminya padahal tidak ada bedanya.

Jadi sekalipun pengguna berada di bounty maupun di signature campaign bayaran bitcoin mereka sama-sama perlu mempertimbangkan posting berkualitas karena sebagian pengguna mungkin berpikir bahwa kalau join bounty posting ngasal atau kualitasnya biasa-biasa juga tidak apa-apa. Padahal kesempatan untuk meningkatkan kualitas posting dan mendapatkan merit serta rank up tidak hanya bisa dilakukan selama ikut campaign bayaran bitcoin, tetapi di bounty juga bisa.

Menurut saya urusan diterima atau tidak itu urusan manager, yang terpenting kita dulu yang harus merubah kebiasaan menjadi lebih baik terutama tentang posting berkualitas. Coba-coba boleh saja, tapi jangan abaikan aturannya karena itu tidak meningkatkan peluang apapun selama akun belum memenuhi syarat.
2779  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: High Rollers on: April 13, 2022, 06:57:15 PM
The character of gamblers is generally in risking large funds because they want to return losses or all at once to gain profits. But the big whales are the exception because they can do anything without analysis and consideration other than just having fun for the chance to win the bet. However it was a crazy decision to risk the equivalent of 20 BTC in gambling and he may still have 5x more on his gambling account balance.
I really think that it's a justifiable possibility because without a big balance in his account then such a big bet is the craziest thing in his life. 20 btc per bet is a pretty insane amount for most people to bet, but there's probably a few things we can speculate about because maybe it's a whale or someone trying to win a bonus or something.
2780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: High Rollers on: April 13, 2022, 06:25:43 PM
Many people are not capable of making that kind of money in their lifetime so this rate is really astounding. I would assume that the player could have made a mistake when placing the bet, but he made three identical bets in a row, which indicates a deliberate game. I'm afraid to imagine how much this man can spend at the casino in an evening. It all seems somehow unrealistic.
If it's a whale at gambling then I'm sure he probably has more money than he spent on those 3 bets. I don't think it's greed if he actually has a strong bankroll, that's natural but seems so far-fetched to the average gambler.

The question is, can the casino pay out if the bet is won at 5x multiplier. How can it not hit the casino's maximum payout?
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