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2761  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 05, 2021, 09:16:35 PM
The Schedule of games is already out. Venue is at Ynares Arena- Pasig City, no MOA yet. Smiley

We have 2 games for the opening day, which would be this coming Wednesday, better get your bankroll ready as the new conference will start soon.


https://www.pba.ph/schedule

Finally! This week will be a great one, its good to see them again and hopefully live audience become more possible. Getting ready for some bets after analyzing on the team and players, looks like the crowd favorite here are those top teams. Let’s see if NLEX will be a good team as well on this governors cup.

SMB will be the favorites in the late game, not sure about the Alaska vs Northport game. I will maybe just put my bet live as I have no idea yet how these imports will play, live betting for me gives a clear picture when I'm not yet confident with the team's import.
2762  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu on: December 02, 2021, 02:25:36 PM



That's is his advantage, is punching power because he is the bigger guy, but Canelo has been in many battles and he has a tough chin and strong body, so he will surely survive and win this fight. I'm so sure but I'm still open of a possibility of upset as Canelo is so hype now that fans think he is almost unbeatable.

Their team may be biting what they can chew, but this is boxing great boxers never know their limitation until they tested themself, that is why we have Manny Pacquiao an eight-division world champion, and Canelo has a lot to offer and he wants to extend himself, forget the cherry-picking thing he wants to fight champions to add more titles and prestige to his name, he knows he is not young forever and wants to accomplish a lot.

Canelo needs to move in weight if he wants to be at least near Manny Pacquiao's achievement as the only 8th division world champion. This is another step for him and if he will win and be a champion in a higher division then that would be so exciting, however, with his height, I doubt he will dominate.

for those who are not aware of the division in boxing, here are the list.

https://www.britannica.com/sports/boxing/Weight-divisions

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minimumweight, 105 pounds (48 kg)
light flyweight, 108 pounds (49 kg)
flyweight, 112 pounds (51 kg)
super flyweight, 115 pounds (52 kg)
bantamweight, 118 pounds (53.5 kg)
super bantamweight, 122 pounds (55 kg)
featherweight, 126 pounds (57 kg)
super featherweight, 130 pounds (59 kg)
lightweight, 135 pounds (61 kg)
super lightweight, 140 pounds (63.5 kg)
welterweight, 147 pounds (67 kg)
super welterweight, 154 pounds (70 kg)
middleweight, 160 pounds (72.5 kg)
super middleweight, 168 pounds (76 kg)
light heavyweight, 175 pounds (79 kg)
cruiserweight, 200 pounds (91 kg)
heavyweight, unlimited

Canelo is fight on cruiserweight now.
2763  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: November 29, 2021, 09:57:25 PM
^^ Tyson losing or if this fight ends in draw could be a scam itself.

Again as I have said before, they have done it before when the judges score a draw in the fight of Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr. For me Tyson clearly won that fight and he was the favorite that time. And the only winner is the sport bookies, and that's why I'm going to skip this exhibition match for good because of that sad experience of this fight being rigged.

If there 's an odds for a draw, bettors could also win as normally the odds for a draw is high. Whoever wins or if it will result in a draw, the bookies would always win since they facilitate bets only for bets in different markets. This exhibition fight could be easily rigged so we can always consider this factor in choosing a bet, we just need to be right to win, as simple as that.

Actually, if Tyson would not want a draw, he should KO Logan Paul Paul, and for sure no way the refs or the judgest can rig the fight.
2764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 29, 2021, 09:37:17 PM
Bulls vs Hornets.

I'm not sure if Lavine will play, he is listed as questionable now.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/2135543/zach-lavine/
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Bulls' Zach LaVine: Questionable for Monday
Rotowire  1 HR AGO
LaVine (illness) is questionable for Monday's contest against the Hornets.

LaVine landed on the injury report Monday morning with a non-COVID illness. The late addition suggests his status against the Hornets is very much in doubt, so if he is unable to play, then Alex Caruso, Coby White and Ayo Dosunmu will all likely see increased roles against Charlotte.

Maybe I'll just wait until game time to know if he will play or not, but I still have a feeling that the Bulls will get this win even without him but i will not confirm yet, I'll wait a bit.

I'll wait for the announcement, not betting without Lavine as I don't know who would fill his production.

We will see a battle of Ball brothers in this game, so it should be fun to watch but really, Bulls need to have Lavine so I will be confident in betting on this team.
2765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Reymart Gaballo (WBC bantamweight) on: November 29, 2021, 08:21:50 PM
Yes, donaire is on the brink of retirement but hanging out his gloves on a manner ends up on a win or a good looking one rather than on a loss.I could say that he has still something to prove out and thats what makes for Gaballo to be a tough challenge even on how hungry he is for some new record.
I think Donaire would retire after he loses in the hand of a real champion, probably not Gaballo because he is just a challenger, and with the kind of victory Donaire had in his last fight, I will never doubt that he could win this fight easily.
2766  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: November 29, 2021, 08:03:56 PM
Terrible news for Denver fans. Michael Porter Jr is having season ending back surgery. I was saying a few weeks ago this was going to be his breakout season, but much like his career so far, that will be ended by injury. A shame. Michael Porter Jr probably could have been a top 3 NBA player had he stayed healthy, but at this point it’s beginning to look like that day will never come.
I feel bad for him, maybe that was the reason for his struggle this season. Anyway, I hope he will be able to come back strong because I believe he is still young and he can do that, it's also painful for the Denver Nuggets because he was just extended with a huge contract this year and that happened.
2767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 29, 2021, 02:22:17 PM
So do you have picks to share on the games tomorrow? Bulls vs Charlotte looks like a good game to bet on for me, of course, I'll bet on the Bulls.

The bulls lose their last game against the Heat, they'll win this game for sure. Take the spread of -5.5, they should cover it as the Charlotte are probably affected by fatigue playing games with little rest only, it's their 2nd road trip, they lose their first against the Rockets.
2768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: November 29, 2021, 01:54:22 PM
I know that most of us here are talking about the Game Fixing and I just want to share this news.
One Sports, a page on Facebook posted that there is already a schedule into when the Governor's Cup will start. It will start on December 8 2021.

In addition to it, Comm. Willie is trying to communicate with the LGUs on hoping that they will allow spectators or audiences to watch the games in person. Well, this is a good news for PBA fans including me Cheesy.

With the alert system of most of the places in our country in Level 2, I think that they will allow 50% of the total capacity of the stadium but with the new variant of the virus that has been discovered which is the Omicron variant this might change and the worst scenario is that PBA will return to bubble again once this variant will come to our country. We know for a fact that this variant will come. Its just a matter of when. I just hope that even though this variant will be in our country, the Governor's Cup will still continue.
We’re on a good alert level but since there’s a new covid variant this may prevent the government from allowing live audience, let’s just hope that this new variant is not that strong compare to delta variant so we can have a good holidays and a good basketball conference. So next week is the start of the Governord cup, I think there’s no time left to apply for approval of live audience, its better for now to have a good live telecast so people can still watch the game on a good quality.
There's no problem with live telecast as they are delivering that to us, we can see the live games on TV5, PBA Rush, and on their facebook live streaming. I just missed the youtube live streaming, I hope they'll make that up again as it's easier to watch it compared to facebook like, and with good quality as well.
2769  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul on: November 29, 2021, 01:28:37 PM
For boxing fans POV, Tommy has the edge over Jake as he has been fighting for professional matches. Though with little experience but sure he has more experience and training than Jake do. But then again, this is an exhibition match lol.
Yes it is, and we never know if they already agreed on what to do in the right because this fight is not regulated by a sports commission, its main intention is just to generate money by giving the entertainment we are expecting, but if it will favor Jake Paul to win, he will clearly win this despite Fury is the favorites to win.
2770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: November 29, 2021, 12:05:19 PM
Due to that, the advantage has been seen by people like Logan because there are a lot of fans that are also following these type of matches because it's fun.

Logan Paul also has a lot of fans but on his youtube channel only, currently at over 23 million, so that would already given us a picture that the fight could sell since he has millions of follows that maybe a certain percentage will at least buy the PPV or watch the fight live.

On the other hand, Mike Tyson is always a legend, everyone knows him, so this fight is like a blockbuster fight/

logan subs live count = https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCG8rbF3g2AMX70yOd8vqIZg/realtime
2771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: November 29, 2021, 11:38:50 AM
The Warriors are really an unstoppable force.

Steph is playing out of his mind and making everyone around him so much better than they otherwise would be.

Wiggins has found a new life to revive his #1 pick career, and Jordan Poole seems like Michael Jordan out there. They are a serious contender.

Speaking of the GSW and some amazing performances. The Suns and GSW, two of the best performing team this season will clash on Thursday.
The Suns is on a 16-game winning streak. This could be interesting. If the GSW breaks the Phoenix Sun's winning streak, they could be the most dominant team in the West this season.
Nothing comes closer to these two teams so far early in this season.
Very interesting on how the bookies will set the spread and +/-.

That's a good one, the day after tomorrow we will see them clash. No odds for now yet but the Suns are playing at home so most likely they will be listed as the favorites to win. I'm not sure which team will win but I like the Warriors to give the Suns a hard time and stop their win streak.

According to https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba-game/golden-state-warriors-phoenix-suns/109517.

The odds are 50/50, so it's not hard to find which team to bet.
I'm sure most of the bettors would go for the Warriors but we cannot discount the greatness of the Suns as they are in a long win streak and they'll try to continue to make it alive and try to beat the Warriors. May the best team wins, but we should choose the team that we like to win, that's the fun in betting.
2772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: November 28, 2021, 09:17:03 PM
^^ Recently, we have huge upset when Kambosos knock down Teo Lopez and then won on decision.
That shocked the world but Kambasos deserve that win as he was the better fighter in that fight.

I do hope that Casimero won't suffer the same fate though, just saying. We all know that Casimero has all the advantage here specially in power department but he shouldn't be overconfident in this fight as he needs to win his mandatory and move on next year with a big unification with Inoue.
We never know and I think Casimero would not be a heavy favorite in this fight, so it's not a big upset.
I saw one poster won his bet on Kambasos with an odd odds of x18, I'm not sure if we can get that kind of odds here.
2773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: November 28, 2021, 09:00:33 PM
^^ I agree, the most consistent player right now is AD in Lakers. While the rest is very inconsistent and then the turnovers are killing the Lakers chances of winning a ballgame. If they can manage to reduce their turnovers per game, for sure they will have a good chance to win those close game they have.
Westbrook is number 2 in most turnovers ranking this season, so I think he is the main problem if we are talking about turnovers as the main reason of their struggle. https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/player-stat/turnovers

Lebron James will always be the Lakers main guy and he will always take the last shot.
He has the freedom to take the last shot but sometimes he pass the ball if he feel pressured, IMO, he is not a good finisher.
2774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: November 22, 2021, 09:52:08 PM
This article would explain, A Bad Boy for life: Isaiah Stewart plays hard, not dirty, and he’s not going to stop...

What happened is that, Isaiah Stewart plays hard as usual and Lebron gets frustrated, it could happen to anyone whether a superstar or not.

And Anthony Davis defended by saying "Everyone Knows Lebron is not a Dirty Player"
https://hoopshype.com/2021/11/21/anthony-davis-everyone-knows-lebron-james-is-not-a-dirty-guy/

yes, I agree with that, Lebron is not known for that, only known for being a good flop.
Yes I agree too, LeBron James is an excellent floper lol

I believe LJ did that maybe to push Stewart away or give him some warning, that's normal in basketball.
But I don't think anyone would have expected such damage and the intensity of the elbow, I believe LeBron James did intend to hit Stewart, but not wanting to hurt him.
Everyone knows that, depending on where the elbow hits, it is a "razor", especially if it hits the eyebrow, mouth, nose, side of the eye and other parts.

That's not a simple push, there's really an intention to hurt someone and that's due to frustration since Lebron is not really a dirty player.
Look at Isaiah Stewart's face here.. Pistons just trying to bring their culture which is the bad boys.

https://metro.co.uk/2021/11/22/lebron-james-bloodies-isaiah-stewart-with-elbow-to-the-face-leading-to-mass-brawl-15643398/

2775  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: November 22, 2021, 09:34:33 PM
In talks about stats and glory things then i dont care.Its clear as day on what are their motives on arranging out these kind of fights and it isnt really that
much surprising.
This does not exist in exhibition fights, it's completely due to money so they'll find to generate money. Whoever wins this does not guarantee he will still get a fight next time because it entirely depends on the promoter of the fight if they will continue promoting a certain fighter. With the names like Mike Tyson, he wouldn't suit up his gloves if he is not receiving the amount of his expectation, he is a legend so his value is definitely high.
2776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: November 22, 2021, 08:47:32 PM
PBA stars might think about it and consider those offers, 1 season can bring decent paychecks which you can established good business for your future, instead of playing long years from PBA Cool
It's really about their future and those that are serious with it, they'll take the offer and settle when they retire. But we don't know the retirement benefits from PBA. So they have to consider bigger paychecks on the present and settle when they're ready for it.
These offers really good to decline and that's why some of them have already went to B League and we know that it won't be stopping there because there will batches that shall take the offer as they're being scouted to play there.

The opportunity given to play with B-League is not for everyone, it's only for players that are extremely good so we will still see the PBA continue to exist. About the benefits, maybe there are more benefits when playing in the PBA but that is still lower compared to what an import will receive playing in B-League, and as long as they know how to manage their finances, they can certainly save money for the business to secure their future.
2777  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 22, 2021, 08:20:26 PM

Exactly, Curry knows how to take a back seat and let others score, in this case Wiggins get's hot on the first quarter and then Poole on the 2nd.

Draymond also played superb offence and defence, he can carry and push the ball and make some incredible plays. I have Warriors + Suns parlay -5.5 and 4.5, so another good win.

Congrats, easy win for you.!

Suns did not allow Nuggets to come neat them, without the Joker it's a tough night for them facing a well balance offensive
attacks of Suns.

I also enjoy how Curry and Green played earlier. No need to force and take lots of shot, let Wiggins and Poole to handle that,
they are all enjoying whoever playing inside.


That's a good recipe for success. Warriors have the best season without Thompson, they can be in the playoffs (90%), and be in the NBA Finals (50%). It's my personal prediction so that means I have to be on this team in the regular season as they have won and covered the spread in many games already.
Next game for the Warriors is against the sixers, but they'll take days of rest before that. 
2778  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: November 22, 2021, 12:11:55 PM
For me, I would rather see Christian playing in B-League rather than staying on his team that he is only criticized by the fans. In B-League, it's more competitive and the most important thing is the salary is way bigger than what he is making with the PBA.

Yes, there are offers for C-Stan to play in Japan but due to FIBA rules on Asian import, he may not play on the B1 League but rather on the B3 league which pays at least $36K per month, very much lower than B1 League players/imports received. 

But his playstyle fits on that kind of league though so this might be the last conference Christian will play in the PBA.

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Stanhardinger, the 6-foot-8, 220-pound hybrid affectionately called C-Stan, only qualifies as a "world import" in Japan, relegating him to the B3.

Per a FIBA edict, Asian imports hooping in the B1 and B2 League must hold a passport and are qualified to play for the national team of their Asian country of origin. Standhardinger has played for Gilas Pilipinas is the past, but only as a naturalized player.
Looking at the numbers, that monthly income is really what matters here and I don't think PBA can counter offer it. This good opportunity for every PBA offer to accept the offer if there is because PBA is full of politics and criticism from its own viewers, its not worth it to stay if there's an offer but of course you must deliver so they'll get you again, I hope he accept the offer.

There's no way they will counter it as the difference is too big. Just like the previous post,  Romeo is earning 200k PHP per month in the PBA while he can earn as much as 2 million PHP per month so that x10 amount he will make will never be given by the SMC management, even JMF is not making 1 million per month.
2779  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Lopez vs Kambosos - November 27 on: November 22, 2021, 11:32:10 AM
I'm not going to miss this match, there are so many delays on this match and I'm sure it's worth it after these delays, Lopez has many plans in the future and so is Kambosos both fighters are with great potential this has the making of a great fight and if the match is close there could be rematch it's only 6 days to go, let's see if this will become a fight of the year candidate.

We have witnessed some good fights this year already, so let's hope this fight will not disappoint us. In order for this fight to be a candidate of the fight of the year, it has to be competitive, and it would be nicer if the fans will be surprised that the underdog will upset the favorite which is Lopez.
2780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: November 22, 2021, 10:57:23 AM

It's entertainment but they are fooling the fans if they just follow the script. We still see exhibition fights because we think the fighters are competing to win, not following the script for the sake of money and to avoid getting injured, if that's how delicate they are, then they should not fight.

I don't believe that Tyson will not be able to hurt Logan Paul which is not a boxer, so it's easy to detect if it's rigged or not.
By instinct and trust with how great Tyson, hitting or hurting logan is not impossible to him, not unless there's really something that being cooked inside this deal, I see your point and there are still fans who believes with the greatness of Iron Mike; they are willing to buy tickets and bet for him.

People who see him when he still in his prime and those young adults who heard about him and watch his clips.

So far, it's just a rumor and we don't have anything to prove it. It's fans' money to use, they are responsible for that. Tongue Cool

Fans would not question the fight as long as entertaining, but it's normal that some fans will have some speculation whether the fight is clean or rigged, and even if it's rigged, they wouldn't be answerable to anyone as what they are doing is just simply for entertainment.
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