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2781  Other / Meta / Re: Request: Cybersecurity board on: January 13, 2023, 09:13:01 PM
If someone's exchange is hacked, that can go to exchange board.
The point of such board isn't to address your issue (only). It is to educate yourself about security, with guides, lists, stories etc. And I'm in favor of such board.

a better construction would probably be:

Security > Wallet software > Bitcoin wallets
I don't like it. Lots of sub-boards can bring worry. If you want to talk about something specific for a Bitcoin wallet, use a Wallet software sub-board. If you want to ask questions related to wallet software, use that board. If you're interested in improving your competence around security, you should visit the proposed board.

We should also have a separate privacy-related sub-board, in my opinion, but that's off-topic.
2782  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why will Bitcoin have value? on: January 13, 2023, 09:04:19 PM
21 million bitcoins will be supplied over 18 million bitcoins have already been mined.
Actually, 19 million coins have been mined, and we're about to witness 20 million mined coins in about 4 years.

bitcoin is not a scarce resource
there are going to be 2,099,999,997,690,000 sharable units.
Of course, another weird interpretation of franky. Being scarce isn't the same as being highly divisible, but who am I to ruin your fantasy? Bitcoins aren't scarce. Gold isn't scarce either, we have grams. Food isn't scarce if you cut it in multiple pieces! Time isn't scarce, we have nanoseconds.
2783  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin doesn't have a fixed supply, but it could. Should it? on: January 13, 2023, 08:38:14 PM
Or we just don't, to maintain this awesome, non-negotiatable, steady inflation rate.

Bitcoin doesn't have a fixed supply, but it could. Should it?
What do you mean it doesn't have a fixed supply? It very much does. Just enter bitcoin-cli gettxoutsetinfo, and it will return you the total coins in circulation your Bitcoin node considers spendable. Every 10 minutes the supply increases in a fixed manner, and the subsidy is halved every 210,000 blocks in also a fixed manner.
2784  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Mastering the Lightning Network book on: January 13, 2023, 08:26:21 PM
I believe you actually understood the concept but the wording confused you.
I agree. The sentence "any funds you receive after this will have been stolen by the partner" can also been interpreted as "you get stolen after you've been ripped off by cheating partner", which doesn't make any sense.

@darkv0rt3x, that book is good. I had read it until onion routing, because that was the chapter whom I had the most questions.
2785  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Acquiring bitcoin with cash - what, why, how on: January 13, 2023, 02:32:50 PM
5. Buy gift cards with cash and sell them For BTC: It is the most effective way to buy bitcoins anonymously, especially those physical cards that can be bought in stores that do not have surveillance cameras.
It's easier to be a consumer than to be a merchant. So, if you want to sell bitcoin, you could just purchase gift cards from trusted stores (using bitcoin), instead of being a merchant yourself. Buying bitcoin with gift cards is rather difficult.

@BlackHatCoiner, what's your average time your Bisq trades take? Particularly for altcoin exchanging - in my first experience, I cancelled the trade after an hour passed with no buyers. There were only a few dozen open offers for altcoin to bitcoin exchange in total.
I haven't ever made an offer myself, I've only picked others' offers. So, it was instant.
2786  Other / Meta / Re: Cybersecurity subforum on: January 13, 2023, 02:18:07 PM
I believe this trend is due to a couple of reasons. Nobody wants to hear about the first reason, so let's just talk about the second, which is signature campaigns have steadily diminished the quality of discussion on the forum for years.
How sure are you about that?

There is no doubt that signature campaigns have incentivized some users to give more importance to the quantity of their posts rather than their quality, so they can fulfill the post quota. But it has also incentivized knowledgeable users to assist anyone who's in trouble. Compare stackexchange with our Dev & Tech board. The former is alive, because a few developers are in charge of it (Pieter Wuille and Murch for the most part), and as far as I know, they get paid to moderate it. And sometimes, a SE post is left unanswered. Try out asking something in the Dev & Tech, and get zero assistance. I assure you that there will be greater chance, if nobody is paid to help.

Secondly, in the early days of this forum, there were no signature campaigns. Do you think those discussions were more constructive than today's? Find me more than three constructive discussions from this old, random page of the Bitcoin Discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=1.52480
2787  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: SINBAD MIXER Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenge on: January 13, 2023, 12:48:13 PM
Prediction 2: $21,166.00
bech32 address: bc1q3dmelaryzjmngtyjaq0dyzu884z7knz657eulu
2788  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is programmable, just not Turing complete, correct? on: January 13, 2023, 12:39:02 PM
You can extend smart contract compatibility off-chain. What I like about Bitcoin is that we're safe from attackers who wish to have us execute arbitrary code. Script is limited on purpose. The main layer is a living giant that can't be exploited to known (and yet unknown) Turing-complete weaknesses.

Rootstock is a sidechain that allows you to develop your DeFi applications, with EVM compatibility. I like how they put it:
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EVM-compatible smart contracts platform designed for a freer, fairer, and more decentralized world.
2789  Other / Meta / Re: Cybersecurity subforum on: January 13, 2023, 12:03:01 PM
Rather than serious discussion almost get abandoned, I would say it's better for the administrators too enable signature space on that's board
I never understood why signatures don't appear in Serious Discussion board. Like, is it because it attracts spam? By that reasoning, should signatures be disabled on the entire forum? Are the rest of the discussions not considered serious?

To get back to my view on rules for new subforums: I do think that in some cases, people don't even bother creating threads about some topics, if they know they belong and will be buried immediately in off-topic, altcoin discussion, or something like that, where they won't get useful interaction and opinions.
I think what we need is simple: a brand new sub-board, with a sticky mega-list thread which is moderated in a divided manner. So that if you're having a query, you can check the thread.
2790  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why would someone send 4 BTC to Satoshi (Genesis block) on: January 13, 2023, 09:50:01 AM
Why do you think they did this?
I don't know, but I don't think it was an accident. You really need to be irresponsible as fuck to not be cautious when spending 4+ BTC. Couldn't there be a new kind of Proof-of-Burn perhaps?

P.S. coins sent there are not burnt though
They are definitely not burned. Besides Satoshi spending them (which, between us, I don't find it a wise thing to do), the public key of that address is known. It's entirely possible someone spends that output, once the underlying cryptography is weak enough.
2791  Other / Archival / Re: WasabiWallet.io | Open-source, non-custodial Bitcoin Wallet for desktop on: January 13, 2023, 09:41:20 AM
Hmm.  The CEO of Chainalysis (Michael Gronager) is attending at the WEF 2023 event.  Just so you know which side he is on.
I wouldn't think otherwise if you hadn't provided this link. The CEO of Chainalysis must have had some crazy government acres, considering he's been part of the USA government spending, lol. $55.4 million dollars, just for one spying company.

But Bitcoin.. well, is Bitcoin. Bitcoin is not Monero. What kind of exchange are you if you don't offer Bitcoin?
No exchange. If people don't care about their privacy, and you force it on the protocol, expect a new bill from both parties that treats Bitcoin as illegal activity (or some other nonsense), before tomorrow morning. I believe it will pass.
2792  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: January 12, 2023, 02:45:49 PM
My bad. I wasn't referring to subsequent mixing, but to the preceding mixing-- the one made a little after you send coins.

One way to avoid the scenario of using your mixed deposited funds as future chip, is to be aware of the chip size that was used for these chips. Say, you sent 0.2 BTC, and ChipMixer later split that money to a 0.16 and 0.04 worth of bitcoin chips. Acquiring chips that aren't of that size (0.16, 0.04) insure you won't have this connection.
2793  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: January 12, 2023, 02:31:00 PM
1. ChipMixer does not seem to provide any mixer code to track the BTC sent to an address. So, is it possible to get back BTC from the same address, in a subsequent mixing?
You can't, because outputs are faster than inputs from a blockchain perspective; you can't receive chips which were created using your just deposited funds, because you can only receive chips which were made before your deposit.

2. How long the Vouchers remain valid?
Vouchers don't expire.
2794  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BTC Reward] I would need some help for a custom DJ Hero Turntable case on: January 12, 2023, 02:02:01 PM
I think a more proper board for this thread is Services, because you want to buy some service from someone else. But Project Development does fit too. It's just that it has lower activity than the other.

Another question: do i need a bluetooth sensor if i use a Raspberry Pi? Since the Raspberry Pi has build in bluetooth. Can't i connect it over that? (If it's true that i need a bluetooth sensor)
Raspberry Pi 4 does come bluetooth, indeed.
2795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Hackers hide malware in fake NFT game on: January 12, 2023, 01:46:01 PM
Imagine using the same device for saving seed phrases and downloading random NFT games from unknown mail senders.

I've read warnings like this for a long time, but I'm not moving to learn Linux right away. hope to have more time to learn Linux from now on.
It is recommended to move to Linux, but hear me out: it's free if you don't value your time.

Just want to add to OP post, this is why its really important for people to learn a bit of network monitoring, and deny access on some port in your network, since there are lots of opensource firewall that we can use free, i have been using free opensource firewall since, aside from installing apps , they also inject or to links and emails, so knowing a bit on what to allow and won't is really an advantage this days, aside from your anti virus.
But this doesn't have to do with firewalls. As far as I understand, the virus spreads on emails, and nobody hosts their own email server from home now more.
2796  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: A new godfather virus for android that steals data from cryptocurrency applicati on: January 12, 2023, 01:41:27 PM
Another reason why you shouldn't install a savings Bitcoin wallet to a closed-source mobile OS, right as well as you shouldn't login to exchanges from phone.

This news is really important for traders and users who think that their account is ultimately secured because they enabled the 2FA Security feature and much research proved bypassing 2FA is possible in one or many ways and this is one of its kind.
Which ironically never was 2FA, to begin with. If you use the same device to login and to confirm the SMS, then it isn't 2FA. (i.e., logging in to exchange from phone)
2797  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Don't be fool! on: January 12, 2023, 01:35:56 PM
Bitcoin is not centralized (it does not have a central authority).
That doesn't work as an argument, alone. It's a feature, but it is only taken as a benefit by those who support stateless money. There are people who oppose free enterprise money, and I gotta tell you, they are lots in number.

That is why you must trust the system and refrain from being fooled by friends.
You don't have to trust the system. You can read the news, listen to opinions, and form your own conclusion about how world works.
2798  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Are we legally associated with advertised services? on: January 12, 2023, 08:43:35 AM
No. The entire advertising industry would collapse if that would happen.
Sure, but I think the answer isn't as absolute as it might sound. If I advertise a service, aren't I considered an employee of that service? Or aren't I an employee at all? Am I considered working for somebody else? Am I subjected to the integrity of that else?

Purely hypothetical, but let's say either Betnomi or ChipMixer does money laundering (without the acknowledgement of their campaign participants). Are participants considered guilty, from a legislation point of view, for accepting laundered funds? We don't sign any legal documents when submitting the registration form, and I'm curious how far can the authorities reach this.
2799  Economy / Service Discussion / Are we legally associated with advertised services? on: January 12, 2023, 08:15:17 AM
I'm not into the law, and there might be differences in each country's legislation, but I'm concerned about this. Am I considered a co-worker of the services I advertise? If the authorities strive for shutting down one of these services in my signature and avatar, am I subjected to this activity as well? If the CEO of either ChipMixer or Betnomi (as examples) is proved to be guilty, am I guilty as well?

Asking a lawyer is probably a better idea, but I'm just curious if someone else had had the same concern before.
2800  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin developer @lukedashjr's wallet was hacked on: January 11, 2023, 04:15:32 PM
in LN some nodes can be on the route to notable services to traffic analyse payments going through them
They don't know what's the destination, though. That's another level of privacy, comparably with the blockchain.

LN would completely bottleneck and fail if it had to try routing 200btc in a small time period
If you took the time to read the whitepaper, you'd acknowledge that lightning exists for micro-transactions. Not for 3 million dollars worth transactions. But, yeah, I'm the one who needs research.  Roll Eyes

It is possible that Luke might have done something which made him vulnerable to the hack.
That. I don't understand why such fuss for this. Isn't it possible that a smart person makes a human mistake? Don't smart people lose their cash by accident every day?
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