So, judging by earlier discussions on bitcointalk about BTCguild cheating and withholding blocks and the logic in those discussions...
There's a 99.75% chance that we are cheating and producing too many blocks?
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Did something change on the back-end tonight?
Nope, nothing changed. Not sure what that was, but I also see "idling" messages intermittently in the log for 15 minutes. I wasn't watching as it happened, so I didn't get a chance to investigate. But if it was accepting proofs of work but was very slow with giving out new work, then perhaps it was a problem with bitcoind. Strangely, everything seems to have cleared up as suddenly as the problem appeared.
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Welcome all you new members! I hope our luck stays with us and we can keep delivering these high payouts! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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What about my wallet.dat file do I lose that or do I store it on my zip drive?
There's no need to have the wallet or even the bitcoin program (from bitcoin.org) on the mining computer, especially one you keep at a remote location. Keep the wallet on the computer where you want to use it, and on backup. If you have lots of coins, keep those in a wallet only on backups (several encrypted copies at different locations), and keep only spending money in the wallet on the computer. You can even send coins to your offline wallet. It doesn't need to be online to "receive" coins. Nice Linux-instructions, P4man. Hope that works out for you, Jason. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Haha ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Who says you can't win the lottery every day? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Thought I'd test it. But now I'm running it and the client says ~50kps, shouldn't that be reflected on the webpage, especially if there's no complaints on getting the user, pass and machine name right?
It's trying to guess your speed based on how many accepted proofs of work you have in the last minutes. With low speed this doesn't really work well. The rate you see on your computer is the correct one. When you see on your computer that you get an accepted proof of work, you should be able to see it in your account on the website as well. If you are running the BitMinter client on a CPU, that's currently not a good idea, since the CPU-implementation in the client today is very bad. Until this is rectified it's probably better to use a miner with good CPU-capabilities like cgminer, ufasoft, cpu-miner, etc. I should put in a warning about this to make it more visible. If you have a graphics card that should be capable of doing this work, but it's not showing up, it's possible you don't have proper drivers, including OpenCL, installed. If so, let us know the brand and model, and we'll help you out. And that would make it Awesome.
And awesome is what we want. Many good suggestions there. Thank you! Everything noted. Remembering settings and automation is already high up on the priority list.
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I got pushed off the top10 ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Guess I have to make top20 and top50 soon then ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Just admit it DrHaribo, you tinkered with the code so we find more blocks ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . What do you think, turn off cheat-mode before we get in trouble?
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I dont see BTC earned for each round, though I have only been here for two rounds, and the confirms havent finished.
If you go to "statistics->blocks" you can click the height number on the blocks for more data on each block. On that page is a button marked "show payouts". When you click it you will see the reward to each individual member for that block. This way you can see the amount of BTC you are about to get for each of the two unconfirmed blocks. After they are confirmed the quickest way is to look in your transaction history ("my account->transaction history"). Also note that the promotional bonus (+5%) is not shown in the block reward info. It only appears when the block is confirmed and will show up as a separate entry in your transaction history. I have a few friends that are curious if its worth switching
With +5% pay, and probably fewer stales, they will make more bitcoins on average over time. But since it's a small pool you notice it more when we have good or bad luck. That's not necessarily bad, though. This has been a very profitable (lucky) pool to mine in during the last 7 days.
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As for performance, several reported in the miner thread that the new beta version is slower than the regular version. It has better stales/block change handling though, so I'm not sure which is best to use. I'll look into the performance issue with the beta when I have some time. I'm currently working on merged mining, so miner issues have to wait for a bit. BTW, minor bug report: if you enable the minimize to tray, using ubuntu (vanilla gnome, not unity), it does minimize to the try, but I cant restore it. It keeps running fine, i just cant get it to the foreground anymore.
That's annoying. Bug noted, thanks! Alternatively you could calculate expected earnings as "if we found a block right now you would gain..."
Yes, I like that, short and sweet. But it's impossible to know the exact amount you earn with a block, because of transaction fees. But maybe it can be something like "if we create a block worth 50 BTC right now, you would get 0.12277621 BTC (xx.xx%)"
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Is it possible to calculate future earnings from the shifts completed ?
I fail to see any info on this.. ?
I still don't have all the numbers up yet. I am planning to add something like "Your score in the 10 latest shifts is 2% of the total score. That will be your share of the income from any blocks built during the current shift." and maybe "A block with a total income of 50 BTC would give you 1 BTC." Is that the kind of thing you were thinking of?
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Damn, performance wasn't supposed to drop. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Well, this is what beta testing is for. Thanks for the reports, guys! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I will look into this. How much higher intervals help depends on your hardware and what other programs you got running. Basically you just have to try it out.
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When you get lower performance, are you sure you are running with the same settings? Remember default intervals changed from 50ms to 20ms. Automation should be pretty high up on list of priorities, imho.
Yep, it is. Probably going to do merged mining (big job) and signature banners (small job) first, then automation.
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Sounds like merged mining is a popular choice. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'll have a look at merged mining now and wait with signature banners and finishing the next miner version for later. I'm releasing a beta version with how far I got with new miner features for the next version. Details are in the miner thread. It has some nice improvements to cut down on rejected work, and some weird stuff like sound effects. The sounds become quite annoying after a while so they are off by default. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Sound will be more useful when I finish the config stuff so you can turn on only the sounds you want, like the sound when creating a block. P4man, not sure if you were kidding about wanting sound when you create a block, but here it is! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) By the way, nice with two new blocks today. Thanks to indolering and Fefox. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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While I can only bring in consistently some ~0.1 Ghps ( HD4800 series tad underclocked ), spending my CPU and GPU budget here seems better than having one spinning in idle loop and another doing practically nothing for hours on end as my computer is on practically always.
Welcome to the team! You should be aware that your computer will pull more electricity when making bitcoins than it does when idling. But then again, idling doesn't get you any bitcoins. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Just wanted to comment that I tried using the miner again after some time of switching between different servers and whatever you have managed to update the program with it's working ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I am not getting very minimal stales, even less then 1% before i got about 10%. So just wanted to say congrats on making your miner a lot more efficient at least for me. Thanks, that is good to hear. I just released a beta version with some new improvements for lower stales. You may want to check that out too. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I currently have 26811 accepted and 11 rejected proofs of work with that version. Details are in the miner thread.
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Beta version 1.1.0-M1 (milestone 1) now available. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitminter.com%2Fimages%2Fbeta.png&t=663&c=vJEgXG1qZxrZVA) Changes: - Reduce stales through better handling of stale data and block changes.
- Improved buffer handling. Should fix the performance degradation
that some users observed with v1.0.1 - Added sound effects
- Log and play sound (if enabled) when submitting a block-generating
proof of work. Display number of generated blocks on status bar. - Use larger log buffer - fit more log messages before old ones disappear
- Base "BTC/day" display on up-to-date difficulty. Log changes in difficulty.
- Bugfix: no longer automatically tries wrong password multiple times
- Adjusted power meters for AMD Caicos and Intel i7 2600. Your GPU meter
not in the middle of the green area at stock clock? Let me know. - Lowered minimum work interval (formerly break interval) from 10 to 1.
Lowered default setting from 50 to 20.
What I would still like to add for v1.1 is saving GPU settings, automated mining, and an options window with at least settings for automation and audio. I'm releasing this now though to get it tested - it may take a while to finish the rest.
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Any plans to add merged mining?
You guys want it? I'm looking up info about it now.. what little is available.
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A hybrid could work. All miners are paid INSTANTLY (once block is confirmed) as long as the balance is >= 0.1 BTC. Miners that earned less than 0.1 on the block will have reward rolled over till next block.
I guess this is a good middle-ground solution. And it's what you get currently if you set payout threshold to 0.1 BTC. I have now set that as default for new users. BTW. Keep up the good work. As a show of confidence I moved another rig (+ 2GH/s) to bitminter.
Thanks, I appreciate it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I've recently (as in yesterday) started mining. I chose this pool as I have been lurking in the forums for awhile and like what I have read. My next step will be tweaking my PC settings. So, hello to all of you and good mining!
Welcome aboard ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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