Can someone point me to the actual commit that introduced this bug?

Dein Gefühl war richtig... bis wohin?

Kannst du so machen. Ich schau mir die Sachen gerne mal an, ist spannend. Nicht die Clone natürlich, nur die innovativen.

Am besten fände ich's, wenn diese Innovationen z.B. als SideChains gemacht werden würden. Dann hätte man nicht diese nervige pump and dump-scheisse und ängstlichere bitcoiner wären nicht in ständiger Bedrängnis entscheiden zu müssen, ob sie nun hier investieren oder da oder garnicht... man könnte Bitcoins einfach bei Bedarf (temporär) auf 'ne Sidechain schieben und die dortigen hippen features nutzen (dark, fast, whatever). Distributions-Problem elegant gelöst. Eine Verwässerung der Bitcoin-blockchain-regeln? In gewisser Weise ja, aber ich sehe die große Gefahr nicht, die Angst treibt die Kohlen immer wieder in die Mainchain denke ich. Und wenn doch eine sidechain die Haupt-kontrolle übernimmt, dann wohl sicher mit Grund and alle können immernoch mitkommen.

Hehe, thanks. Who'd have thought they would sell for thousands of dollars way back then, though.

Thanks for digging that up joecooin. Thinking about those days always shows how far we've come since.


Thanks for this wrapup. I'm a bit 'out of the market'. I've wondered when would be the best time to sell one or two 2011 S1s (for BTC) and I've come to the conclusion that it's probably most profitable to sell on ebay during a hype and hope for exaggerated price, then buy bitcoin with the fiat... even with the extreme ebay / paypal fees it could be the best option. What do you think?

as a german citizen I'd be really interested those 'issues'.

I don't see how it's different from what bitcoin.de does (mediate deals between private individuals).

Wether the individuals would have to register with the bafin (banking regulator) or have to pay taxes and which ones is up to those individuals in my view.

can you show us that link?

There was a huge wall ( ~2k ) at roughly 392, which is gone now.

I figured it was a scare-wall. Maybe it was real and the guy got impatient and sold into the market?

How in hell is a pumpkin more heavy than a frying pan?

keine (d)pos coin?
ethereum? storj? maidsafe? bitshares? ultracoin? nxt?

alles interessant, aber wenn's um Geld geht: erstmal bitcoin.

Da bin ich ganz - um Vitalik Buterins Worte zu benutzen - "Bitcoindominanzmaximalist".

I think the bottleneck is at US airports.

There's no difference shipping from Romania or Czech Republic. Anything shipped from Europe to the US via regular postal ("letter") will take anything from 5 business days (extremely lucky) to 3, up to in extreme cases 5 weeks. When I shipped casascius coins in my experience the stuff was usually on the plane to the US on 2nd or 3rd day, but customs or US postal or whoever sits at the receiving airport takes ages to process. Similar to Canada, Italy, Australia.

Anything within Europe arrives within 2 to 5 business days (with exception of Italy), add a day or two to Korea, Thailand, Ukraine, Turkey, UK,...

I don't know how the fuck the Chinese do it... they also ship to Europe incredibly cheaply and fast. I guess it's something that got optimized heavily.

I'm not sure that's a good idea... I'm offering 2 pairs for redemption, let's see how that goes.

Joke aside. I think the ridiculous call for gold-backing of bitcoin shows us a couple of things:

• The metal-heads are under pressure to have a position on crypto
• outright rejection doesn't cut it any more
• blatant attack doesn't cut it any more (Peter Schiff: "bitcoin is worthless because you can divide a bitcoin and then you have 2 bitcoins", lol)
• so they try 'embrace and extend' or 'cherrypicking' aproaches (hence the gold-backing idea)
• those dudes are extremely encumbered by the mountains of metal they sit on (maybe it will turn out the metal is actually sitting on them and locking them down)

I'm still waiting for:

• they accumulate
• they recommend

I'm not sure what stands in the way: inertia? fear? lack of understanding?

but hey: maybe they're the smart ones and we're the idiots, right? ;-)

I guess it means that the early adopter crowd has (at least potentially) more bitcoins then the rest.

great talk. Thanks for posting.

Can you run the text by us beforehand and publish a photo afterwards?

I'm not sure he'll write it himself, though:


Not sure that 'personalization' is actually the inscription.

lol, I'll get one with "Bitcoin to the moon!" if they ship to Europe affordably.



argh, shit:



oh yeah, I guess I'll just enter an alternative shipping address, let me see what I can do,... there's the mansion in Florida, but I wont be there for a while. Hm, maybe they ship to my castle in Estonia or the South Africa farm? I guess the Olive garden in Italy wont be shipped to either. Ah, I got it: the space station module I bought last month might be an option. Or maybe even better that moon crater I claimed.

Jesus, why is shipping shit from the states so hard? People ship from everywhere to the states for low cost. I guess exporting goods is something the US has unlearned for obvious reasons.

The one in Prague November 2011 turned the tides imo.

Nowadays: there's so many of these conferences...

I don't think it ever was: it's a debt-tracker, not money. IOUs can be created at will by participants. If you're thinking 'XRP', well yes, that's a coin, but it's heavily premined, so also no competition to Bitcoin.

yes, if you have the seed words (and optional passphrase)

That's a different application (proof of existence), not storing of a message.

Side-note: proof of existence can be done without OP_RETURN (by using sha256(document) as private key, deriving address from it and sending money to it). If the money is moved from that address (possible for anyone knowing document), the utxo resource is freed, too.

Reliably (non-prunably) storing messages into the blockchain by definition bloats the blockchain. Since there's a price to be payed (coins destroyed, all other coins more valuable), I see don't see it as a big problem.