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281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 21, 2018, 06:25:48 PM
Where is the form and any details of this project?


Have a look here
https://goo.gl/J9BjVW

Funny page - evidently unaware that it is an exercise in self-parody. Was it written by an eighth-grader?

No idea it's not mine but don't you find it funny how suddenly random new users with 1 post happens to be here with very broken English ?

Asking similar questions

Can I get a beep boop mr bot everything about bitcash is all just smoke and mirrors
282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 21, 2018, 05:53:04 PM
Where is the form and any details of this project?


Have a look here
https://goo.gl/J9BjVW
283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 21, 2018, 12:48:41 PM
Is BCH the same as BCC? i want to withdraw my bitcoin cash to Binance but i don't want to mess up my account by depositing it in to the wrong wallet. coin base says that i have BCH while binance that bitcoin cash is BCC.

If binance says that BCC is bitcoin cash then yes it's the same
284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 21, 2018, 09:53:08 AM
I guess Greg Maxwell is a Bitcoin Cash truther...

https://twitter.com/nullc_/status/954404957637300224
WTF IS THIS REALLY GREGS TWITTER?

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The Bitcoin Cash price is skyrocketing. You can thank me later. Get in now before it goes to the moon. Only the best work on Bitcoin — Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin. I’m here now. Let’s science!

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I’m getting thousands of Q’s why I left Blockstream. The real reason which I couldn’t say while at Blockstream but I can say now is that I fully support Bitcoin Cash — Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin — I could no longer work with Adam on non-bitcoin applications anymore (LN, sidechains).

9:27 am - 19 Jan 2018





More people that can't read


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CTO (Chief Talking Officer) of Blockstreamcoin.
Love me some sidechains.
Adam Back is my hero.
I am Bitcoin. #Parody #DealWithIt

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Joined March 2016
Born in 1980

It's starting to become clearer everyday why you are all here some cannot comprehend basic mathematics and some cannot even do basic fact checking

Yes I may not make sense sometimes I pay no attention to grammar or punctuation plus half of the time i'm on my phone and auto correct decides to change words on me that I then sometimes re read and correct BUT I don't go round just making stuff up and just believing things what people say i'm a technical guy I work on facts not theory.

285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 21, 2018, 01:48:39 AM
^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong



In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it  Cool

was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word



with bitcoin cash you can send instantly with 0 confirmations  Cool

I do not know if you know what are 0 confirmations since in btc it is absolutely impossible now

You can send 0 fee yes but unless the recipient accepts 0 fee then 0 fee is useless




And if you buy a Ferrari I guess the seller would not mind waiting 10min to be confirmed



If you're buying a ferrari you won't be concerned about having to pay a $5 fee  Roll Eyes

What about in store retail

LN: quick scan thank you come again and off you go

BCH : There is seating available over there while we wait for confirmation we apologize but it's store policy  

286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 21, 2018, 01:30:56 AM
^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong



In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it  Cool

was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word



with bitcoin cash you can send instantly with 0 confirmations  Cool

I do not know if you know what are 0 confirmations since in btc it is absolutely impossible now

You can send 0 fee yes but unless the recipient accepts 0 fee then 0 fee is useless

287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 21, 2018, 12:29:07 AM

Hmm. So it cost you either 1/3 or 2/3 of the value you had in the channel in order to close it. Let's presume 1/3 to be generous. We can therefor assume it likely cost another 1/3 to open it. So you spent 2/3 of your nut just opening and closing your channel. Gee - sounds great. Sign me up.
 Roll Eyes

Um, your math is wrong...
fee=0.00026113
principal=0.00973887
0.00026113/0.00973887=0.02681317237
0.02681317237*100=2.681317237%
that is not 1/3

Mea culpa. Unfamiliar interface. I saw the two outputs, and assumed one was the fee.

No one is what I didnt spend and was returned the other is what I spent and was sent to the other party and the funds never left the chain either they were just placed into a "temporary" wallet still secured that when I closed the channel were automatically split to the value of the final channel balance

 
This was the funding transaction 25 days ago

288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 21, 2018, 12:23:53 AM
^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong



In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it  Cool

was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word

289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 21, 2018, 12:15:53 AM
Just for you I closed out the 1 channel I had on testnet see how simple it it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AltZ2WjGyx4

"This video has been removed from YouTube for violation of terms of service"

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Is this what you call locking up the funds ?

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc-testnet/tx/51022c876337e1975ab9fcb181574ea4250617b802b3033e19d151d8bdca16d7/

The transaction output back to my wallet onchain to do whatever I need

Hmm. So it cost you either 1/3 or 2/3 of the value you had in the channel in order to close it. Let's presume 1/3 to be generous. We can therefor assume it likely cost another 1/3 to open it. So you spent 2/3 of your nut just opening and closing your channel. Gee - sounds great. Sign me up.
 Roll Eyes

Where did you get that from ? maybe you need to go back to school there is 2.61% how is this even close to 1/3 now it all makes sense why you are with BCH  Cool

290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 20, 2018, 11:59:04 PM
^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?

Clearly because the purpose is to derail discussion of Bitcoin Cash. Must be a part of Adam Back's admitted paid shill force.

Actually I didn't bring it up i just started correcting mistakes then got told I should move it maybe because it shows everything that has been spread were in fact all lies
291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 20, 2018, 11:57:02 PM
^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong



Bruh, you seem smarter than all of this... and nice "did you mean Bcash" meme.

This LN crap is all so complicated, buggy, and useless. Sad to see intelligent people buying this load of horse manure.

As others have said, nobody wants to lock up funds and create channels and do KYC and watch their wealth evaporate the next time BTC plunges and they can't get out...

Like I said there is no locking up funds you can close the channel at ANY time and funds are available back to your wallet this is one I closed a bit earlier as an example

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc-testnet/tx/51022c876337e1975ab9fcb181574ea4250617b802b3033e19d151d8bdca16d7/

You are in very basic layman's terms just sending BTC from one wallet to a muiltisig wallet with lock time failsafe

If you broadcast the transaction state (your own personal cryptographically secured ledger) then the multisig balance is just moved back to your funding wallet at the final ratio and channel closed

The timelock failsafe is used for if say I broadcast my ledger balance and the other node refuses to close it for whatever reason or dies and is permanently taken off line then yes the funds are locked until the lock times out but it is not in their interest to refuse to close because if they do I could just claim everything back as my ledger is more up to date and they would lose everything.


All this is handled by the wallet in the background so you have your offline hardware or whatever wallet with all funds safe and secure and your online wallet with spending money


So you want to get some spending money so instead of sending to your  online wallet you sent to a LN address instead that's the only difference if thats too hard maybe you shouldn't be in crypto

The above is not 100% correct just a rough easy to understand roundabout way but that does not change the rules



Yes the mainnet software tools still need more testing to be as good as bug free as you can get but it's getting there fast
292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 20, 2018, 10:45:22 PM
^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong

293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 20, 2018, 10:15:34 PM
Guys as you may or may not know...its not easy finding info on this lightning stuff.
I have been looking at it more to see what the fuss is all about and tbh...ITS SHIT lol

The noobies and alot more barely understand basic crypto wallet-wallet stuff...how the hell does anyone expect them to learn about paychans and hubs aswell,lol.
Then the lightning network expects you to tie up funds in the network order to use it...NO chance people are going to do that in such a volatile market.
The LN expects businesses to adopt it, hold btc in hubs and provide liquidty for it (or something) ...again merchants have left and they will not come back to a system thats even more complex....
I could go on and on...
jeeezz i wish you guys(segweeters) discussed this sooner....created a thread , had a chat...because im 100% serious...LN IS SHIT.

Who did you ask because everything you said in wrong

1. Noobies don't need to understand anything the wallet will handle everything have you seen a signed Bitcoin transaction output how many do you think understand that over type amount and click send

2.Tie up what funds you can close the channel at any point and the funds are back on the block chain well actually there never left the chain

3. Hubs hold nothing everything is on chain you just keep a signed record of transactions that gets pushed back on chain when you close the channel that does another transaction with the latest balance to your funding wallet

If you can't find out basic information then no wonder you are so clueless to everything in future don't ask Roger
Where is this basic info you keep finding? please dont send me to reddit or twitter lol
What about the cost of opening and closing a channel?

1. I use it therefore know how basic the experience is it's actually easier than sending a normal transaction as the receiver creates the invoice and all you do is scan and click pay  
2. I actually read the specifications


Just for you I closed out the 1 channel I had on testnet see how simple it it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AltZ2WjGyx4

Is this what you call locking up the funds ?

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc-testnet/tx/51022c876337e1975ab9fcb181574ea4250617b802b3033e19d151d8bdca16d7/

The transaction output back to my wallet onchain to do whatever I need
294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 20, 2018, 08:59:08 PM
Guys as you may or may not know...its not easy finding info on this lightning stuff.
I have been looking at it more to see what the fuss is all about and tbh...ITS SHIT lol

The noobies and alot more barely understand basic crypto wallet-wallet stuff...how the hell does anyone expect them to learn about paychans and hubs aswell,lol.
Then the lightning network expects you to tie up funds in the network order to use it...NO chance people are going to do that in such a volatile market.
The LN expects businesses to adopt it, hold btc in hubs and provide liquidty for it (or something) ...again merchants have left and they will not come back to a system thats even more complex....
I could go on and on...
jeeezz i wish you guys(segweeters) discussed this sooner....created a thread , had a chat...because im 100% serious...LN IS SHIT.

Who did you ask because everything you said in wrong

1. Noobies don't need to understand anything the wallet will handle everything have you seen a signed Bitcoin transaction output how many do you think understand that over type amount and click send

2.Tie up what funds you can close the channel at any point and the funds are back on the block chain well actually there never left the chain

3. Hubs hold nothing everything is on chain you just keep a signed record of transactions that gets pushed back on chain when you close the channel that does another transaction with the latest balance to your funding wallet

If you can't find out basic information then no wonder you are so clueless to everything in future don't ask Roger
295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 20, 2018, 06:57:50 PM

296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 20, 2018, 03:07:37 AM
BTC community have been waiting for LN for how many years 2? Not sure if it will be even launched in future. For now here news from KuCoin exchange. BCH trading pairs and more are coming.
https://news.kucoin.com/en/bitcoin-cash-trading-pairs-open-on-kucoin-with-over-350000-in-tokens-and-3-btc-in-giveaway-promotions/

It's here now and growing fast very fast to say you need to be fairly advanced in linux just to run a node

https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/#

Yes it's still in beta and not user friendly and yes if you do not know what you are doing then there is a high risk of lost funds but it won't be that long before stable pre compiled binaries are available with user friendly gui's


Great info tek...but wrong thread wouldn't you say?


Not really when it's a reply to a message saying don't know when it will launch when it has launched its just not quite prime time ready yet

I seem to now be seeing BitCash users around the twittersphers saying we can have LN if it works the problem is you can't not while you still have the transaction malleability bug

297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 20, 2018, 02:49:33 AM
BTC community have been waiting for LN for how many years 2? Not sure if it will be even launched in future. For now here news from KuCoin exchange. BCH trading pairs and more are coming.
https://news.kucoin.com/en/bitcoin-cash-trading-pairs-open-on-kucoin-with-over-350000-in-tokens-and-3-btc-in-giveaway-promotions/

It's here now and growing fast very fast to say you need to be fairly advanced in linux just to run a node

https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/#

Yes it's still in beta and not user friendly and yes if you do not know what you are doing then there is a high risk of lost funds but it won't be that long before stable pre compiled binaries are available with user friendly gui's

298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 20, 2018, 12:38:27 AM

Bcash knows they are on a timebomb. When LN is fully operational Bcash is gonna tank.
Witness the real flippening. Wouldn't be suprised if Mr Ver would return to Bitcoin hes a Judas already so be prepared and add to your short position  Wink Wink

If this was to happen I can assure you that you will be the last to know he will slowly sell everything before changing any position

299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 19, 2018, 10:41:22 PM
Why on earth ppl love to dillute their coins?

ETH by ICOs,  BTC by 'secure' side coins and atomic swaps?

Pls have a look on coinmarketcap et al and do a simple math... it is not that hard.


Sound money is about hard scarcity. Ppl who do not get this better stay in fiat.

Bitcoin is different and it is cash.

I dunno easy money why have something that's high value when you can make loads by owning lots of low value stuff and keeping most for yourself to sell later

The thing that has shocked me the most recently was bitconnect since it is now a collapsed ponzi and the value crashed fast to about $7 and should be totally dead now yet people are still buying BCC tokens I mean the other day is was up nearly 400% in 24 hours i mean who the f**k is buying collapsed ponzi coins.

It's ok saying BTC went from 100% to 50% 30% etc due to reason x or y but when you consider there are now over well over 1000 coins/ico's this is still a huge share  and people are still willing to buy these collapsed ponzi coins tells you a lot and there are no limits of how low people will stoop if they think money is to be made
300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: January 19, 2018, 10:28:58 PM

It's not ready the tools are hard to use and must be build from source plus without knowledge on how to use them then yes you will lose money

But with all that said the amount of channels showing up is increasing at high rate currently LN has 60 nodes and 103 channels.

Once stable user friendly tools are available with precompiled binaries for Windows, max and Linux etc then these will increase at a alarming rate

LN on testnet currently has 3210 channels open and from what I've used on testnet the experience has been blazingly fast with a highly connected mesh network non of this hub and spoke crap

LN transactions use onion routing similar to the way tor works no node has any information about it's final destination or who it is from just where it goes next.

Bitcache was tested using many different technologies I remember you lot shouting that it was going to use Bitcoin cash but on the end it was not suitable go figure
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