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281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don't make use of what you disliked because you can't stay away from it. on: February 18, 2024, 10:15:03 PM
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No no you got this the wrong way. They're not forcing you to use your money. You're making it look like they're forcing you to use your money since they won't block the account. See the thing is blocking accounts are only a thing for people who can't seem to stop spending and this means that THEY themselves spend the money, the casino does in no way force you to spend it. It's common sense really. Let's not be entitled shall we? In the first place signing up to a casino only to ask them to block you because you don't want to spend money just seems dumb.

And I also don't really see an issue here, you were able to withdraw your funds so I think tjat's that. Them blocking or not blocking your account? Doesn't look like it matters, just forget about the casino, end of the story.

Well said, telling you to wait for 90 days boils down to the policy of the casino and in my understanding that doesn`t amount to forcing you to gamble. You can easily uninstall the app from your phone while waiting for the 90days besides are you intending to quit gambling? from your story it is no the only issue you had with the bookie is the fewer options they have which means you are likely to look for a better bookie with better options if this is the case then you have to use your preferred bookie and there is no penalty for that. I have different betting accounts and I use any when I wish I have used some for a couple of years now because I am satisfied with the ones I am using. so, blocking your account shouldn't amount to a problem because I see no problem with that or the company`s policy.
282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you stick to some Casinos or do you try out new ones? on: February 18, 2024, 10:05:31 PM
I believe most casino offers almost exact games. Maybe they lack some game providers but it’s just minimal and not worthy to change a casino just because of this missing game provider. Sportsbook is the games that usually missing on a casino before but now almost all casino including new one has it. Only Bitcasino is the only long time running casino that doesn’t have Sportsbook because they have sportsbet.io to handle sports betting.

Games is not the biggest factor anymore for changing casino but rather the VIP benefits given to the players because casino usually sent generous rewards to newly registered player that’s why many user is tempted to try new casino.

Some gamblers just want to try new casinos to know if they can be lucky. A friend told me that he is always lucky when he gambles with stake.com than he does with other bookies. So, sometimes a player out of frustration would want to try another bookie especially when the welcome bonuses and promotions they offer are juicy. New casinos often provide generous welcome bonuses, free spins, and other promotional offers to attract new players. These incentives can help players boost their bankrolls and increase their chances of winning. Some casinos offer a wide range of games which can be exciting for players who are looking for something new and different. They may also offer unique and exclusive games that cannot be found in other casinos.
283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can a betting shop be so dubious like this on: February 18, 2024, 09:48:04 PM
Everyone here is to be blame right from the gambler, the agents and the betting platform too. I personally won't give any agent chance to ask me to come back later for my money if I win any ticket from them. They can only give you excuses when you demand for cash. Give them your bank details to send you your money instantly. This is why I recommend betting on your personal account to avoid issues like this with agents and shop owners.

I cannot possibly blame the gambler. He didn`t foresee that happening. Maybe he has been having winnings and such hasn`t happened and there has also been no complaint about the agent withholding people`s winnings. It happened and the gambler happened to be a victim and so he shouldn`t be blamed. What if he had provided account details and he was told when he would receive it but didn`t get it?

You have to understand that when you have a win the bet shop knows and the only reason they demand for your ticket to make payment is to be sure that they are paying the right person. Even without giving them your ticket if the intention is to scam you, there is nothing you can do. This is one of the likely problems with offline gambling and that is why online gambling is safer but then I have also heard stories of bet accounts being closed after a gambler won big. Though it is an unverifiable story I didn't take it seriously.
284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler lost what he couldn't afford to lost and broke his TV after game Lost on: February 18, 2024, 09:35:50 PM
Anger management is critical especially if something triggers it. Our bodies react out of sudden frustration and sometimes the results are worse. The adrenalin is too much for the person while under that status that ended up in random reckless actions.

Anyway, what I'm surprised about is, putting decent bets on low odds. It's even more risky than putting decent bets on high odds. There's no such thing as safe odds and even for others that such odds exist, can someone have the guts to put decent value for example @1.00 to @1.2 odds? It's way better to just put the money in the bank lol (crypto fan here).

Well, at least he return from being normal and realized what kind of shit he had done.

Realizing his action is not enough because there is no guarantee that such an action will not repeat itself. The cause is gambling with an amount he could not afford to lose and that is what should be controlled going further. A lot of gamblers have created harm to themselves and others and even destroyed properties because of losing in gambling but this did not stop them from gambling nor did it help them control their stake. Lack of anger management can only exacerbate the situation. This is why anger management as you have noted is crucial. When a person experiences a loss or a series of losses while gambling, it can trigger feelings of frustration, anger, and disappointment and without proper anger management skills, these emotions can lead to impulsive decisions, increased risk-taking behaviour, and further financial losses.
285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does casino streamers have influence in your gambling life? on: February 18, 2024, 04:39:32 PM
If you are really that sensible on whats happening around then you would really be telling into yourself that these are probably for exposure and hyping a certain casino or platform.
If you are that someone who do really that easily get that influenced then these streams could really be that affecting you and you will really be that do the same thing
which same as @carlfebz said above which it is indeed a valid point. Actually its not really something that could affect you if you do really just simply stick into your own ways or methods
on doing gambling. Gambling should be fun and not something that you would be stressing yourself on following.

Gamble for fun and dont try to follow someone and i dont have the time on watching those streams on which its not really that enjoyable or entertaining at all.

I understand your point of view but sometimes it is the social proof provided that triggers a lot of people to gamble. When viewers see streamers winning large sums of money or having a seemingly exciting and glamorous lifestyle as a result of gambling, it can create a perception that gambling is a lucrative and desirable activity. But the reality is that after these adverts are made people go back to do some feasibility studies to know if it is real and if people are winning as this streamer has claimed. During the research, they find out that people are winning and this will spark interest in gambling and lead some viewers to try their luck at gambling, hoping to achieve similar results.

What becomes worrisome is that the constant exposure to gambling content, especially when portrayed in a positive light, can desensitize viewers to the risks and consequences associated with gambling addiction. This normalization of gambling can potentially lead vulnerable individuals to develop problematic gambling habits.
286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling between the past and nowadays on: February 18, 2024, 04:16:27 PM
The pandemic.
When that happened, everything changed. Well, that's in my case but I bet it is for others too.
I am a poker player physically, I love playing with strangers who later on became my friends too. Still, when we sit at one table we become competitive again and there's no clue that we are friends. It became like a sport to me and it became my habit to go to that place weekly there are even times I cannot wait for my day off and will go there on weekdays just to satisfy my urge to play.
When the pandemic hit, the place closed down, and even now that it is open again I have not visited it again. I am kind of afraid that different people will be there and I might get shy to start playing again.
Then, I bumped into online gambling sites although I have known them before. i.e. Yolodice, Bitvest, 777, and more. That changed everything because I can satisfy my urge to gamble now by just opening my computer and it's a perk to me because I am also working at home. I don't even need to go outside to gamble and that's what happened for the last 3-4 years if my memory is correct.

I think the ease of access is the main reason why a gambler would just stay at home. You can even do it in your smartphone before going to bed which is a great feature.

Online gambling has been there even before the pandemic. It may have exposed you to the ease of access online gambling brings but then some gamblers never found that applauding because they enjoy gambling with others and enjoying the moments and conversations which come up during offline gambling. The truth remains that after the pandemic people went back to offline gambling. So, to me, the pandemic only provided a pause to offline gambling but never changed the mindset of some gamblers. Go to a casino shop and it will surprise you to see the number of people there gambling.

In my opinion, society is dynamic and that is why the way people used to gamble has changed especially with the advancement of technology. The rise of the internet and mobile technology has revolutionized how people gamble. Online gambling platforms have made it more convenient for individuals to access a wide range of gambling activities from the comfort of their homes. Mobile apps have further increased accessibility, allowing people to gamble on the go. This has encouraged a lot of people to gamble because their identity is not exposed to others when they gamble online.
287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: February 18, 2024, 02:23:16 PM
That's exactly correct. The goal of gambling should never be to win money. Thinking of it as a money-making strategy makes it unsafe and unwise, similar to trying to walk a tightrope without a safety net.

There is no generally acceptable goal of gambling, it solely depends on the player. Some people gamble simply for fun and excitement. For some people, gambling provides an opportunity to socialize, bond with others, and participate in shared activities. For other individuals, gambling represents a potential opportunity to improve their financial situation or to supplement their income.

I don`t think telling a gambler not to gamble because to make money is important rather telling a gambler a safe means of gambling to avoid addiction and thus, creating problems for himself. When we discourage people from gambling for money have we created alternatives for them to make money. Telling them to look for a job is not enough because sometimes there are no jobs in place. Even when we see gambling adverts they only show the financial gains. These bookies only tell you that you can make money from it and that is the consideration of many gamblers.
288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Focus on how much you may lose and not only the potential win. on: February 18, 2024, 01:53:17 PM
In my experience most people go way beyond what we can safely call an optimistic attitude, since they do not even consider the possibility of failure at all, so if they think they can win at gambling they do not even think about the possibility of this not happening.

You're correct also why will you be thinking about losing when you know there's something called the power of mindset, if your mindset is always about lost, you'll lose and not win therefore to increase your chances of winning we have to be thinking positive all the time but as you're having a positive mindset, it shouldn't make you ignore the possibility that you can lose the money that you're staking therefore it shouldn't be a large amount that you can forget if you lost it.

Focusing on negative isn't good energy so I won't advice gamblers to focus on how much he might lose but he should be aware of it and do things that'll make the lost less painful. Staking only smaller amounts is a good way to reduce the amount of money you are going to lose and also not to over gamble by betting on many games. Also not chasing our losses will help reduce how much we are going to lose.

Personal experience has shown clearly that there is nothing like the power of mindset when you talk about gambling. What you think or feel doesn`t affect the outcome of a game. I have had times I virtualize winning and fantasize about how I will spend the money but it doesn`t come through then there are days I have doubted the possibility of winning but surprisingly I won. So, a mindset does not make someone win. In my opinion, a gambler’s mindset can only influence risk-taking behaviour and emotional responses to wins and losses. Gamblers with a positive mindset may be more likely to take risks and believe in their ability to win, while those with a negative mindset may be more cautious and risk-averse.
289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When I'm emotional, I LOSS! on: February 18, 2024, 01:29:35 PM
Most of the people who lose emotionally in gambling are because they can't control their feelings so they can't think properly about what they are doing because they are too carried away by their emotions.
Controlling your emotions is important when you gamble, you can set a budget to control yourself so that when you lose you won't feel upset or anything else because that loss is budgeted so you don't have to chase your losses. If you often lose gambling, you should stop, you know when to stop gambling. You must also have self-discipline because it is also one of the most important things when you gamble.

In support of what you have added, controlling emotions will not make you win because there is no formula for winning in gambling due to the unpredictable nature of gambling. The outcome of most gambling activities is determined by chance such as in casino games like slots or roulette. Even skilled games like poker involve luck and this cannot be fully controlled. However, controlling emotions can prevent a gambler from losing more than necessary.

The importance of controlling emotions lies in the fact that when you can control your emotions, it is easier to stop or continue playing when it's necessary to avoid irreparable losses. Controlling emotions requires discipline, self-awareness, and the ability to stay calm under pressure. By regulating emotions, gamblers may be able to make more rational decisions based on probabilities and strategic thinking rather than being swayed by momentary feelings.
290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do people truly risk their money on bets for profit? on: February 18, 2024, 12:58:50 PM
Gamblers will enjoy gambling only when they have a lot of winnings. When gamblers lose a lot of money they are in depression due to which they have to make some wrong decisions and face huge losses to recover the lost money.  However, we should not be overly greedy while gambling, if we win a little money, we should stop gambling.

The truth is that people who gamble for fun don`t let themselves lose so much that can result in depression. It is common for people who desire to make extra cash from gambling to keep chasing losses and then get more problems for themselves. People who gamble for fun are always moderate with their stake and moderation is measured by the income of the gambler. What can be moderate for gambler A can be extra vagant for gambler B. A gambler who gambles for fun will always treat the money used for gambling as entertainment expenses rather than an investment or potential source of income.

It is proper not to be guided by greed as you have noted but it is difficult to stop gambling when you win little. It is easier said than done. Well, I don`t advocate that people should stop gambling after winning but I think that whether you win or not only gamble with an amount you are prepared to lose. Set a limit and stake to it because that`s the only saving grace.
291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why in some religion gambling is forbidden? on: February 18, 2024, 12:33:11 PM
When we talk about religion we cannot dine the forbidden things like alcohol, prostitution and many other things in this topic we will discuss why do gambling is forbidden (Haram, interdit) .
So can you tell me why is it forbidden in your religion?
And for the non religious persons what you think ?

I don`t think the stance of Christianity on gambling is explicitly mentioned in the Bible, but in my thinking, Christianity does not support gambling looking at some scriptures. Many Christians believe in the concept of stewardship, which emphasizes responsible management of resources and possessions. When we look at the nature of gambling rationally, it becomes clearer that gambling is a misuse of money and resources because you will lose more than you win.

Furthermore, when you consider that it is very difficult to rule our greed from gambling it becomes justifiable why it is against Christianity. Gambling can foster greed. Instead of being content with what one has, gambling often encourages the quest to make mega money. In addition, self-centeredness and a lack of concern for the well-being of others can become the lifestyle of a gambler, as he will become preoccupied with his financial gains or losses.
292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Conference League Discussion Thread -- 2023/24 | Group Stage playoffs on: February 17, 2024, 11:14:22 PM
Sorry for your losses but you know gambling is hazardous, UEFA games have quite random results and for sure Conference League is the top randomness which might give the impression of more money to collect in case of a winner ticket.
Anyway, next week we will have the second leg to be played, Ajax Amsterdam and Betis have games with similar results for both in their respective games.
The conference league doesn't seem easy as we all anticipated, there are more tougher games, often I just relaxed and watch how these complicated fixtures plays out. Losses are made steadily in the system, we just have to be careful when selecting odds to trigger for matches. However the losses we encounter are not also our faults because we place wagers in favour of these elite teams, at the end of the day, they end up losing three points to their mediocre opponents, this type of losses mostly affects our stable motives in the system. Next week, another matchday to decides winning team and losing one.
293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: February 17, 2024, 10:58:57 PM
So far Robert Lewandowski has scored 12 goals and 5 assists in 23 appearances. His goal record is down compared to last season, but I think that's normal because of his age and the impact of the previous injury. Lewandowski still has the opportunity to improve his goal record this season and compete to be the top scorer, but I admit it is difficult because Bellingham already has 20 goals so far.

Lewandowski has to work harder to prove himself as a productive striker, but sometimes he has to fail because of the lack of goal opportunities he has. Everyone should help him instead of improving his own record, he can be the difference for the sake of the team rather than for himself.
Barcelona is not in excellent shape, and we are seeing a decline in performance from these clubs. The players are doing their best, but we need to understand how these things work. Every terrific club has a season where they stumble and crumble without having the exterior actions and spectacular results in matches; they are always on the losing end, which is unacceptable. Robert Lewandowski is not actively proficient in physique because he is getting older with each passing season but the Poland international always sort out means to become the best attacker for his club.
294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: February 17, 2024, 10:51:30 PM
It seems two recent losses in Bayern Munich against Leverkusen and Lazio were very huge for them and Bayern Munich is not satisfied with the performance of some players in this team and that's why they are about to make some changes. The place of Tuchel is Bayern Munich is in danger and other than their coach they want to put the stars for sale.
Sane, Gnabry and Leon Goretzka are three players Bayern Munich prefers to put them for sale because they couldn't have had good performances recently in this team.


Despite the vast number of outstanding players in Bayern Munich, they still struggle to win matches and grab three points. What are Bayern Munich board waiting for? I thought by now, Thomas Tuchel would have be relieved from his position as headcoach for Munich. Bayern Munich recorded two consecutive losses in bundesliga and the UEFA Champions League Round of 16 first leg. That's a little bit of panic for the Bavarians because I'm pretty aware and competitive Lazio can transform to become fierce and defensive in the second leg.
295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: February 17, 2024, 10:47:06 PM
The next week we already have a big match.

Inter versus Atletico.

According to bookmakers it should be an easy win for Inter.
That wont be any stress to Inter. Obviously they would win if they play very well. Still, they should be  prepared because Atletico will not make it easy for them to get away with the points. Atletico on the other side is also getting prepared. The UCL has not been easy since it has been difficult for bigger teams to succeed.
Always prepare your mind for the winning results for those of us that indulges in gambling, which is very risky but we stake, sometimes we earn and sometimes we lose, it's all part of the system operation. You going to place your wager on this particular game? Probably YES because this is solely an important game for both managers. Diego Simeone and Simeone Inzaghi are competent and knows they should expects against each other. Inter Milan will warm up against Atletico Madrid in the UEFA round of 16. A first leg deserves incredible performance from the home team and the Nerazzurri falls in this category.
296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 17, 2024, 10:42:42 PM
I say this since Juventus were defeated by Inter Milan and I consider Juventus to have come out of the race, then the bad results continued for Juventus at least in the last 4 matches, what can we expect from these bad results? obviously nothing. Inter Milan has certainly secured the Italian League trophy this season without obstacles and Inter Milan leads with 9 points. do you think Juventus deliberately played poorly in the last 4 matches? To be honest, I felt strange when Juventus lost or just a draw when facing weak teams.
After today's surprising draw against Verona, Inter Milan now leads Juventus with good difference in points gap. Massimiliano Allegri's position as head coach of the Old Lady will be called into question because he has not improved in virtually any of his previous matches. What's going on with Juventus' current stats? I can't believe what I'm seeing on my television sports channel screen anymore. Juventus draws points against Verona; this was meant to be a touch game for Juventus, with the goal of taking three solid easy points, but they botched things up and settled for a draw.
297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 17, 2024, 10:35:44 PM
De Zerbi is rumored to join Barcelona after Xavi.

I'm guessing there are no more clubs for Klopp except Bayern Munchen.


There's numerous rumours circulating fast around and we have watch how most of these prominent coaches ends up losing their managerial positions due to incompetence and failing to meet up targets. Barcelona on the verge of losing another key coach, Xavi Hernandez who have personally decided to leave Camp Nou at the end of the season. Perhaps Barca president, Joan Laporta will search for potential replacement for the outgoing coach this summer. Though they have numbers of selections to choose from, they have Jurgen Klopp, Xabi Alonso and Roberto De Zerbi, all these coaches are not easy to be persuaded to come over and continue from where Xavi Hernandez stops. Brighton headcoach making moves to exits the Amex stadium at the end of the season? Maybe YES or NO because he's execute good projects and development for the club.
298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: February 17, 2024, 09:55:34 PM
Arsenal didn't lose anything yet because they are still racing at the top of the premier league with other teams like Liverpool and Manchester City but I think still they have to work harder because so far Arteta and his player lost many points and recently can't have good performance in the games we saw from them while Manchester City is getting better than before and Liverpool is not going to give up easily to other teams because it's the last season for Klopp in this team to achieve the title with Liverpool.
Arsenal fans are chanting victory because they're having one of happy moments in football, watching comfortable games and relaxed minds. Arsenal have scored 21 goals in their last 5 EPL matches. A brilliant starting for Gunners as they aim for the EPL title this season, they're actively in the race to pull up a competitive run against Manchester City and Liverpool. Mikel Arteta was regarded as mediocre coach during his first season in Emirate stadium but move forward to today, he's consider one of the best coach and proceeds to succeed the former manager of the club, Arsene Wenger.
299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: February 17, 2024, 09:34:27 PM
There were discussions between Lukaku and Roma already, regards to him staying and he is fine with that from the reports, it looks like he could actually do that. This of course depends on Roma being able to buy him out as well but that won't be the easy part, it will take a while for that to happen.

I believe that Chelsea will not want to sell him all that easily, and it will mean that they will want a good sum of money for him to be transferred. Not that they want something huge, not like 50 million or something, lukaku is older now and he could go for cheaper, but I still doubt he would be free neither, that feels not possible. I think the best way to go about this would be just paying them 10-15 million, and keeping his salary about the same as it is now.
Romelu Lukaku is a vital Chelsea player, he got loaned out for the free space of Christopher Nkunku. I don't missed him that much because he doesn't serve any better spots than missing big chances. Romelu Lukaku created a name for himself and position in EPL during his early days of playing brilliant style of football. Perhapes Lukaku is older and experienced, there are certain qualities he no longer adapts to but prove to be a better version of himself, not minding the recent flops he encountered in these previous clubs he played for. AS Roma, his present team utilized his strength in the frontline.
300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: February 17, 2024, 09:27:28 PM
Lille got a very good performance which I see as deserving of the victory they had today, and every of their moves today was really a good one as they had.a great performance, they were able to dominate from the first half of the game where they secured two goals after which they got their third goal in the second half of the match.

Lille is now at the third position on the table with over 35 points already, which means finishing top four is a good possibility for them but they are sure they would not be able to win the title, thia season, Le Havre did tried their best but were unable to secure a goal from the game rather they got neither the goal or victory which is actually poor results but then they weren't in the same capacity as their opponent so it was very possible they would have still lost the game.
Proving dominance and superiority over La Havre. Lille advances to third place in the Ligue One table after defeating La Havre, one of the tremendous victory that have significance margins. Lille's head coach, Fonseca, has ambitions, he establishes the most effective strategy for his club, he is in command, and he does not accept any sort of complacency or tiredness from his players. Lille hit deeper this weekend, defeating their opponents with high scores on the table. The Les Dogues' 3–0 victory was highly earned, and they hope to earn substantial points.
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