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281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DECENT Announcement - Decentralizing Content Distribution on: November 14, 2016, 03:04:58 PM
This project is weird, transfer fund before launch, and don't let people take off the signature?    Cheesy Cheesy
282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - a global marketplace on: November 13, 2016, 12:48:45 PM
Hi, can someone link the roadmap please ?

Roadmap:

* Margin trading (Q4 2016)
* Regulated retail FX (Q4 2016)
* Offchain settlement scalable to 100’000+ transactions per second (Q4 2016)
* Ethereum support: multisig wallets, interblockchain atomic swaps (Q1 2017)
* Payment system provider (Q2 2017)
* Regulated institutional FX (Q3 2017)
* Fixed income products, commodities (Q3 2017)
* 1 billion USD average daily volume (Q4 2017)

100’000+ transactions per second? Looks good, but like utopia. Anyway, except your site, where can I buy lykke?
283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DECENT Announcement - Decentralizing Content Distribution on: November 13, 2016, 12:44:21 PM
So there isnt an actual date we can remove the signature?

They said 24 hours after ico ended, but now is still not done.. who knows

Why can't you use the account you used for signature campaign, instead of opening new account to spread FUD, it is people like you that cause this delay. Decent will weed you out soon

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=165193

Use you fucking blind eye to see my date registered, new account? And I said the truth, not fud, you retard spammer.
284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DECENT Announcement - Decentralizing Content Distribution on: November 13, 2016, 12:26:21 PM
So there isnt an actual date we can remove the signature?

They said 24 hours after ico ended, but now is still not done.. who knows
285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][JNS] Janus|Blockchain secured global business on: November 13, 2016, 06:16:12 AM
I'm interesting in adding this to http://icocountdown.com

Could someone please email me: alex@icocountdown.com

or add me on skype: icocountdown

So we can talk about the development of the project.

Thanks.  Smiley

Thank you very much for your interest and offer, all current information is publicly available about the Janus project. I'll speak to our team regarding
your site and see if it's something we agree would be positive for the sale and business.

Important links for Janus token information:

Website: www.janustoken.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/Janus_Token

Slack: https://nxtchat.herokuapp.com/ (join channel #janusproject)

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Janustoken/

Medium.com: https://medium.com/@Janus_Token

Nxt Forum: https://nxtforum.org/the-janus-project/


Hha, he will ask $400 per week for listing fee there.
286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 12, 2016, 04:28:11 PM
Someone please panic dump a few 200k now Smiley
Everyone getting ready for tuesday Wink


What good news on tuesday?
287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: KIBO - First Blockchain Lottery on: November 09, 2016, 05:51:43 AM
ICO over? How much you raise?
288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Woodcoin [LOG] Pure Skein POW, Logarithmic Release, No Premine nor ICO on: November 05, 2016, 02:53:27 AM
Two Years of Chopping LOG
http://frass.woodcoin.org/woodcoin-two-years-of-chopping-log/

Happy birthday Woodcoin!

I'm going to use this excuse to take a look at the current state of the network and review the motivation behind using woodcoin.

Part 1 PRICE


Fig. 1   Market Capitalization of Woodcoin over first 2 years.

 
Woodcoin is a small coin listed with a capitalization of ~200BTC.  This puts it at the 109th largest "mineable and non-premined" coin listed on coinmarketcap.  As you probably know by looking at this metric before, it is easily skewed by small distributions of stackers, small volume, and coins burned or lost.  I expect many of the coins in this top 100 list to disappear just like paycoin did.  The half a million LOG sent to the address WeHonorTheForestsAndTheTrees4pPXTQ are not included here so really the spendable coins are at least 6% smaller than reported.

Woodcoin is fully public and decentralized with no ICO, no registered foundation or corporation, nor any solicitation or acceptance of fiat currencies during its creation.  If you squint a bit you can see this in the charts.  One immediately notices in Figure 1 that the usual fractal pattern exhibited in most coins (large fast pumps followed by slow decreases) are not visible here.  Where are the pump and dumps?  Where is the ICO spike?  Woodcoin shows a stable (but slow) growth, which is no surprise to those who understand the supply curve (see details below).  Of course because woodcoin is open to all, this is no guarantee of future behavior.

While woodcoin is currently listed on at least four currently operating exchanges, most all of the volume is on C-CEX.  They have proved to be reliable and trustworthy custodians as of today, and have also shown consistent growth over the last two years.  You know the deal with exchanges by now.

It's also worth pointing out that C-CEX reported LOG trading for as high as 8000 sat (during one emptying of supply about six months ago) and a couple of faucets currently sell them in small quantities for 0 sat.  That should give you an idea of the ranges of prices.

The total supply (including permanently tied LOG) is now just over 8 million LOG.  This is out of a maximum of 27.6 million LOG, which as you probably know, will take a long time to chop Smiley

 

Part 2 HASH RATE



Fig. 2  Hash rate of LOG choppers over the first two years of woodcoin.

The constant battle which is a proof-of-work network has been very exciting to watch here.  Recently (as in yesterday) the difficulty has touched all time highs.  There are quite a lot of skein hash functions being calculated, to say the least.  The network is currently in the GPU phase of growth, which is to say that the vast majority of the hashpower appears to be in GPU rigs.

There have also been hash withdrawl "attacks" which began almost a year ago, in November of 2015.  Certain GPU farmers dedicated their relatively large rigs to chopping LOG for short time periods, then left the network when the difficulty increased, presumably to mine other coins.  This led to periods of very long block times.  LOG users waited patiently and the network recovered as it should.  While some people reported being annoyed by long confirmation times, all transactions went through.  In addition to complaints there was much discussion on what could be changed (with a fork) to alter these dynamics.  A recent talk by Mark Friedenbach at Scaling Bitcoin in Milan touched on these issues.  Difficulty adjust algorithms such as the one employed by woodcoin look dreadfully simple to a control systems engineer (why is there no PID controller?), but their simplicity and resilience make them work - even if at times their overshoots and undershoots are aggravating.

This summer further hash warfare activity was detected on the network, in the form of block withholding "attacks".  These enabled certain woodcutters to re-chop blocks of LOG (which had been chopped by hash-withrdawl players as discussed above) after the original hashpower was withdrawn.  This caused a certain amount of confusion but good will was displayed by all involved as no transactions were reported double-spent, despite indications that some woodcutters had the power to perform a dreaded 51% attack.  The woodcutters involved even went so far as to generously refund any smaller choppers who had lost their rewards as orphans.  This led one woodcoin user to ask me "Why is it raining LOGs?"  There were even one or two chain reorganizations that numbered as high as thousands of blocks.  While hardly a selling point on the security of woodcoin transactions at that moment, this was very exciting to see that the consensus network can recover from such shenanigans.  Small and decentralized proof of work chain dynamics can be very exciting.

Also related was a brief "Quantitative Easing" period sponsored by the secretive dwarven Kawg trust, in which large transaction fees were paid to woodcutters.  There are rumors that another period of quantitative easing or QE2 will emerge on the network.

Overall the network has behaved well, which even after 8 years of watching bitcoin blocks appear still seems somewhat of a miracle.  Lets not forget this was proven by some of the very best cryptographers to be impossible Smiley

Part 3  MOTIVATION

The real motivation is for our betters, the trees, to survive and thrive, and for us to secure our life support and to gain a second spaceship to ensure survival of Gaia.  We fight Sauron's colonial empire within as well as the crawling radiative chaos Nyarlathotep without.  That's a long story we won't get into here.  To get started with that, one thing we need is to remove the gaping wound on humanity and middle earth which reliance on private coin issuance has opened, and to do that we need a strong ecosystem of public coins.  Woodcoin aims to be one of these coins.

When I presented the logarithmic supply curve, and implemented it with the woodcoin genesis block two years ago, I didn't go out of my way to explain it.  Some people figured it out anyway.

The problem we are solving here has been largely overlooked, but it hasn't gone away.  Namely:  What is going to incentivise miners on the bitcoin (or other geometric supply curve coin) network when the block subsidy reward drops to near zero?  Satoshi's answer, and perhaps the only answer that makes any sense, is transaction fees.  However, we have a large segment of bitcoin users who fear that large transaction fees will push users to other coins.  Some even suggest raising the maximum block size to avoid these large fees.  In addition to this big question mark of how the network will work when block subsidies drop to near zero, as they do rapidly in a geometric release curve, this rapid release makes the supply look unattractive to new users for another reason: it appears as a premine and as an unfair distribution.  Currently more than three quarters of all bitcoin to ever be mined are already in the pockets of early adopters.  Many critiques of BTC harp back to this point.  [Half the LOG will be released by 2305.  Three quarters won't be hit for thousands of years after that, I'll let you do the calculation.]

One potential way around these problems which has the advantage of simplicity is to have a constant inflation.  This is the solution of dogecoin and of ethereum: an eventual minimum non-shrinking block subsidy.  This plan has its attraction, but it also might scare new users away because it means that the money supply is not capped.  As time crawls on, value in a single token thus inevitably goes down, and long term store-of-value seekers flee.  Another uncapped strategy is that of many proof-of-stake coins, namely an constant percentage reward, leading to a still faster exponential supply growth.



Fig. 3  Three existing supply curves, taken from Margrit Kennedy "Interest and Inflation Free Money".  Curve A is a geometric release, like bitcoin or litecoin.  Curve B is a constant subsidy, like doge or ethereum.  Curve C is a constant percentage inflated release like most proof of stake coins.

The logarithmic supply takes a middle road between the geometric release curve and the constant release curve (A and B in figure 3). Unlike a constant release curve, the supply is capped - there is a limit which will never be passed (technically due to the discrete nature of the supply, in continuous fields logarithms are unbounded).  However it approaches this limit incredibly slowly which ensures there will be some subsidy to support securing the chain.  Further, there is always an advantage to securing the network today, as compared to securing it tomorrow.  Every block is worth less than its prior.

Part 4 IMPLEMENTATION

Once you understand the purpose of the logarithmic release function, the rest of the woodcoin design mostly follows.  The satoshi codebase was the choice of instantiation, due to the relatively well tested nature and the existing tools to work with it.  Several clients have emerged, as well as tools for address manipulation and so forth.  Simplicity is an overall goal here, as we want people to be able to use this just as easily as any other public coin.  Design consideration was conservative, as recommended here.

Once the supply curve was decided, the big question was what to use for a PoW hash.  It's not a good idea to use a hash function that other big coins are already using (for background see why Doge is now mergemined on litecoin or why NMC is now mergemined on Bitcoin).  At the time, Quarkcoin had just come out and people were excited about chaining together hash functions to make it more difficult to do custom hardware.  As I saw it, custom hardware was an eventuality for any coin if it lived long enough to become popular, and chaining hash functions only made the thing more complex and I saw it as reducing the value.  At the time SHA3 was just being chosen, and one of the potential candidates was the Skein function.  Bruce Schneier and three fish told me it worked, the NSA rejected it, some research suggested it was fast and would be relatively easy to optimize in custom hardware, and so I went with that.  I wasn't about to roll my own hash function yet, sorry Smiley  [It's worth pointing out that woodcoin is the current leader in pure Skein hashrate].

The only other major thing different about woodcoin is the elliptic curve.  I've written about this before so I'll spare you the discussion again.  I went with something different than bitcoin because it was easy, well tested, and recommended by many of the experts.  Conservatism again, boring but that's the way it is.

The rest, as they say, is history.

Part 5 ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

Many thanks to all the great folks I have met through this project!  Keep up the good work in all endeavors, public coin and otherwise.

Thanks for your update, woodcoin looks good now, market cap is decent, the dev is very humble and keeps low profile.
289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO LIVE] Inchain - insurance for the crypto economy on: November 02, 2016, 07:50:49 AM
At this pace,INC is quite possible to fail to raise fund.

Yes, total funding is not 200 btc, how can they raise 2000 btc?   Shocked Shocked
290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform on: November 01, 2016, 12:30:26 PM
I'm happy SJ refunded my ICO phase 2 coins and I made some profit of my ICO phase 1 coins because I was the first on yobit dumping them at 1k.

I feel sorry for the ICO phase 1 investors who had no choice in the matter and the rest of the ICO phase 2 investors you guys deserved it.

Coins are slowly moving: https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1MtzCZpBLqmLNSEjoAxbLv2zCcAvrKyHm9

Wow, 1k sat? You have earned 4X?   Shocked Shocked  Lucky guy.

Fuck, how can he remove 20 btc on 1st of November without ocaml wallet?

Yeah I was lucky to be online at the moment it came on yobit, altcoin bagholders always buy 0.0001 worth of newly launched coins at the current price.

He can withdraw all he wants from the address since SJ already released funds, I think he slowly drain the funds and sends it to a coinmixer website.

O damn, let us fuck and rape his ass, he will buy another account to make a scam coin again.
291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform on: November 01, 2016, 12:15:10 PM
I'm happy SJ refunded my ICO phase 2 coins and I made some profit of my ICO phase 1 coins because I was the first on yobit dumping them at 1k.

I feel sorry for the ICO phase 1 investors who had no choice in the matter and the rest of the ICO phase 2 investors you guys deserved it.

Coins are slowly moving: https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1MtzCZpBLqmLNSEjoAxbLv2zCcAvrKyHm9

Wow, 1k sat? You have earned 4X?   Shocked Shocked  Lucky guy.

Fuck, how can he remove 20 btc on 1st of November without ocaml wallet?
292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born on: November 01, 2016, 11:38:30 AM
With only 4 days after launching this campaign , we have already garnered 170k social reach . This is awesome.

we are almost 2X now



to be 1 million before ICO Launches!!!  Cool

Where to get this stat? From wings backend?  Shocked  333K is damn cool, very popular project
293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: November 01, 2016, 11:13:33 AM
If wave full node did released and the price went up to a modestly x5 from today's price the I'll believe the devs are sincere of making it a premium cryptocurrency asset.

Me too, now we must wait, now that we have waited so many months, 1-3 months can be acceptable. I have strong patience now.
294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | STRATIS | The first blockchain developed for businesses |Full POS on: November 01, 2016, 08:49:46 AM
glad that i've bought another 30k  for so cheap @7300

Looking ahead in 1 year from now, 7k Sats is going to look like a steal.  When STRATIS is trading x5 - x10 this price.
Its amazing how well STRAT is holding up, most coins taking nose dives, so really good to see strat how up against the King BTC.

Stratis is the improvement of bitcoin, bitcoin newest feature will implement on Stratis first. NBitcoin and NStratis will go to the moon.   Smiley
295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform on: November 01, 2016, 06:49:05 AM
Look my previous post about Opair and calling wasserman a scammer in this thread wasn't deleted, its been there for days already.
This means that wasserman is already gone and now just celebrating his fortune.

Since he pretended has the confidence to complete this project, he scammed SJ for most of remaining coins, SJ should not have trusted him, imo most of the fund released, and he run away.

Good thing SebastianJu initiated a refund but only few took advantage of that and still others wanted to risk their BTC.

No Developer, no wallet. No shit!

And did this happen?
Quote
We will be organizing a meeting in London in October for interested investors who can participate if they wish. We will also be present and trying to make contacts in the The Blockchain Summit and the Global Expansion Summit to be held in October in London.

Lol  Grin

he scammed us and no such thing happened, they would not show faces even in videos or hangouts, what do you expect? A meeting? Damn he must show the fake show to SJU.
296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zcash Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: November 01, 2016, 06:00:47 AM
Will think about buying more on launch depending on how everything goes

Me too, i will choose to buy after ico, because i estimate this project will break ico price, and go dip.
297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 01, 2016, 05:21:39 AM
You think you know more than an entire team of lawyers working for Kraken that approved listing ICN, DAO, REP ?

This says it all, really.  I understand snkns's concerns because I had similar worries early on.  But I can't imagine the Kraken team sitting in a boardroom going, "Okay guys, so whaddya say we break the law in order to list ICN?"  That's absurd.  Just as silly is the idea they said, "Gee, well I don't know if it's legal or not... ah, who cares, let's go for it."  They simply would not take the risk if there was any doubt in their minds.

Anyway, this is a healthy looking rise we've got going.  Smiley

It is above ico price, you guys must be very happy, lol. But i want another dip, still wanna buy more.
298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GNT] Golem Project - The world’s most powerful supercomputer on: October 31, 2016, 06:19:08 PM

So when is this project going to be a working progress?
I saw there was a thread about this months ago, i think it mentions about the most waited projects in the years to come. I can't remember the thread.
The project can probably surpass zec's achievement but why is this being hyped so much and yet we can't see yet where its going?

You can access the Alpha of Brass Golem already. It's live here: https://github.com/imapp-pl/golem/

As for roadmap, you can see that here: http://imgur.com/a/29KB8

eta for 4th part is 36-48 months, very long term project, do you also reserve some part of coins?
299  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin accepted in over 10.000 Swiss locations on: October 31, 2016, 06:10:38 PM
Swiss is the most developed country in the world, good news. I hope we will get more social media in all of the world, not only swiss.
300  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why bitcoins illegal ???? on: October 29, 2016, 05:59:47 AM
It is legal, even Russian government admits it is legal now. Where is illegal?
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