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281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 04, 2014, 07:31:18 PM
i read somewhere yesterday if you were a nxt ipo investor you shouldnt of invested in nem prety sure it was written by a dev of nem and now i cant find it anywhere can someone explain why this is so a pm from nem dev would be nice as i have a m8 who invested in nxt and nem ipos

Could you translate it? Smiley
in to what might i ask.

i read somewhere yesterday if you were a nxt ipo investor you shouldnt of invested in nem. prety sure it was written by a dev of nem and now i cant find it anywhere, can someone explain why this is so? a pm from nem dev would be nice as i have a m8 who invested in nxt and nem ipos
punctuation may help you here

I highly doubt a NEM dev said that. Maybe a NXT ipo investor said that to dissuade you from getting into NEM, and possibly bringing down NXT value. I follow this thread pretty thoroughly and haven't seen someone say that here.
Edit:
But i just read your last point and it sounds like you are almost asking for financial advice, so sure, invest in NXT ipo, NEM ipo, and any other ipo that is cheap, because why not right? The $10 investment will be way better ROI than a lottery ticket.
282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CryptoCasino- 10 billion chips- Equal shares Registration thread on: March 04, 2014, 08:01:20 AM
Can't wait to gamble some of em!

I'm in.
283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 02, 2014, 10:20:02 PM

Exactly. Proof of Importance is NEM's best feature. PoI is what will set NEM apart from all other coins.

I'm sorry if I missed it but is there a link somewhere to how PoI works?  Is this actually a fully developed working thing, or just an idea at this point?  How is "hybrid PoS/PoI" different from NXT proof of stake?

I've read about it in the development plan, there is a few lines of description that is all, it is unclear how it will work or what behaviour it will drive. I await a more formal specification and formal review of the algorithm, like all good ideas there are intended consequences and unintended consequences...

If implemented as described, it will 'set NEM apart' but whether this is in a good way or not will be how the implementation is judged when it is seen out in the community - there is a lot of stealing of ideas so I'm not surprised there is little detail posted in order to prevent this - we will have to trust in the 'devs' and see what they finally decide on.

It is my understanding that the devs are currently testing POI, and they aren't posting specifications on how it will work, because they are well, still testing it out.
284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 01, 2014, 06:19:49 AM
If nothing else, this project is a great window into the human psych.

Lately I've seen to many new coins descend into a nasty greed-fest with "where's my fucking coins!!!" and "scamcoin!!!" spattered everywhere.

By and large I feel NEM isn't doing too bad, so far!  Cool

The coin world has gone down hill, the huge asic mining and multipools jump on a new coin, mine it, sell it, and kill it within days, moving on like a pack of locusts.

If you had a bunch of mining rigs sitting around, that weren't making a whole lot of money mining bitcoin/litecoin/primecoin (Trying to cover all the main asic,gpu,cpu   Smiley ). Wouldn't you point them to some junk altcoin for a quick pump and dump?
The topic is irrelevant when it come to NEM in my opinion though.
285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 01, 2014, 12:39:38 AM

reminds me of an old game

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q*bert

Lol I used to love playing that game and guess what I was thinking when I drew that picture Cheesy

Maybe someone can write a flappy bird clone. Flappy NEM. Highest score gets a part of a stake every month till NEM is launched.

Here's another great game idea, similar to flappy birds in its simplicity and difficult nature.
http://www.romainbrasier.fr/404

It's a simplified lemmings game, it makes me want to play lemmings sooo bad.
If someone could create a simple game and a database that records the high scores, and players username/password, we could easily use it to support NEM.
Once NEM is released, the top 1 or 3 scores would win NEM!
I'd donate some NEM to that fund  Grin
286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 28, 2014, 01:50:17 AM
I Will engourage NEM supporters to join NEM forum here -> http://forum.nemcoin.com
(nemcoin.userboard.net transfered there)

this is getting annoying and ridiculous at the same time Grin.

we are all over the internet, only to look for our stakes..
everybody is starting a new forum, another page, another logo, another "work unit"
so taht he can get a dev and pull the "community" along.

So we have this thread, the nxtcrypto threads, the last forum, this new forum, the reddit page, the ournem.

its annoying, and pointless.

Can someone from the two new mods explainn the need for YET another forum?
What was wrong with the previous?

Can someone give an honest and legit reason
and please do not pull the decentralisation card.

It's the same moderators, they got rid of the other forum and set this one up which is much better, there's only going to be one official forum/facebook/twitter/etc.
The decentralization part comes in because all of these outlets are managed by different people, no one wants decentralization to the point where there are 5 NEM Facebooks or twitters.
287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 25, 2014, 10:26:02 PM
Shameless repost, we need community members to get involved for this to be great!

nemcoin.info
Current Versions are at:
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.8.html (black theme)
and
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.7.html (blue theme)

Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gbp1rivOTFZvtBG0_rJabUyyKbDuZjMBx9jiifBJO0c/edit?usp=sharing   (nemcoin.info proposal)

Please give me your input, I have appreciated all the suggestions so far! Do you like the black or blue theme? I prefer the blue theme as I think it is more welcoming, but the black theme would go well with ournem.com
<snip>

Reading previous posts this may not be popular...

Don't mind black or blue - what I would say is the contrast of the black really helps other features stand out and gives the page a stronger more striking feel to it...

In comparison the blue feels more average colour, a bit like Hewlett Packard corporate blue and microsoft use a blue like that quite a lot.

Nothing wrong with that... they want to be welcoming too. A DARKER Blue perhaps would give welcome and contrast?

black wins hands down...

Yeah - I'd agree with that.
Personalyl I'd remove the globe on the upper left corner. Not only does it introduce a second logo but it also looks like it was low res.
Again, Props on the website as a whole though Smiley
You all have inspired me with some great ideas for the site!
Thank you all, including erki12, xtester and many others. I will respond to all of your concerns, and take them into consideration, but for now I am going to get onto the next iteration of the site, and I think you will be pleased.

To sum up the most important part of the google docs:

I need the community to give me copyright free pictures that I can use for this site, most images are just placeholders (but atleast they are copyright free). The logos I used are not official logos, they are just logos that have been submitted by the community. I will give NEM from my personal share to people that contribute images/photos/etc that I use in the final site.
288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 25, 2014, 08:28:59 AM
Shameless repost, we need community members to get involved for this to be great!

nemcoin.info
Current Versions are at:
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.8.html (black theme)
and
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.7.html (blue theme)

Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gbp1rivOTFZvtBG0_rJabUyyKbDuZjMBx9jiifBJO0c/edit?usp=sharing   (nemcoin.info proposal)

Please give me your input, I have appreciated all the suggestions so far! Do you like the black or blue theme? I prefer the blue theme as I think it is more welcoming, but the black theme would go well with ournem.com

This site is built on the bootstrap framework, so it is super optimized for fullscreen and mobile sizes (I will optimize it for tablets later, but it still looks ok there for now)
Also.  an "updates" section will be the next thing I implement into the site.

I can use more pictures, etc for the website!!!  If I use your images/graphics/pictures whatever in the final design, You will receive some NEM from me shortly after launch.
A great part of this website will be the “case study” (read all about it in the google docs).
Any merchant or charity or fellow stakeholder  that wants to get involved please post at this thread:
http://nemcoin.userboard.net/t45-nemcoininfo
read the google docs for more info on how you can help, thanks!



Add another vote for blue color.  I'll set aside time to digest all the website content soon and try to give some constructive feedback, first impression is you are doing some top notch work.  Thank you.

For the sake of completion i wanted to post my suggestion for the color sheme as well.

https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/52fad1d4f9dae58171699f3f/52fd86bc9266088a229100e4/8322192364fbbd0637d044078b006173/nem_web.png

Yes that does look good. Sorry I forgot about your suggestion, I am leaning towards black logo with blue theme right now.
289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 24, 2014, 09:09:26 PM
Shameless repost, we need community members to get involved for this to be great!

nemcoin.info
Current Versions are at:
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.8.html (black theme)
and
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.7.html (blue theme)

Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gbp1rivOTFZvtBG0_rJabUyyKbDuZjMBx9jiifBJO0c/edit?usp=sharing   (nemcoin.info proposal)

Please give me your input, I have appreciated all the suggestions so far! Do you like the black or blue theme? I prefer the blue theme as I think it is more welcoming, but the black theme would go well with ournem.com

This site is built on the bootstrap framework, so it is super optimized for fullscreen and mobile sizes (I will optimize it for tablets later, but it still looks ok there for now)
Also.  an "updates" section will be the next thing I implement into the site.

I can use more pictures, etc for the website!!!  If I use your images/graphics/pictures whatever in the final design, You will receive some NEM from me shortly after launch.
A great part of this website will be the “case study” (read all about it in the google docs).
Any merchant or charity or fellow stakeholder  that wants to get involved please post at this thread:
http://nemcoin.userboard.net/t45-nemcoininfo
read the google docs for more info on how you can help, thanks!

290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 24, 2014, 09:01:42 PM
Hallo
My name is kim.Im come from korea.

I just saw my ID without a Y
Could you tell me why?

I sent 0.045 btc  part 2 page 21.
Hash ID: e357a6a4603a23d1b651dc54d2adffaf0eaf98e6fe3bc9749c2cde89e90e7fef

Thanks!
Hi,Mr.utopianfuture,can you explain this,thanks!

This will probably get noticed more if it's in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450200.0
291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 24, 2014, 08:21:25 PM
Looking at all the threads for uninspired altcoins, it's clear that NEM is really unique. Not sure how we got such a great community of people together, but somehow UtopianFuture pulled it off.

Remember guys, no envy.

Also, should someone try to e-mail these guys and ask for photos to use on ournem.com?
https://vimeo.com/85843499

There are some sweet photos online at: http://raskalov-vit.livejournal.com/134512.html
I'm thinking something like this with the crane photoshopped out: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9756/65616424.8c/0_a0bb3_4aa09adb_XXL.jpg

It appears they are fluent in Russian? I would ask them for permission, but if someone that speaks Russian well could get in touch with them, that would be awesome.

I think it is Ukrainian?
They seem to know some English.

I was hoping someone could warm them up in a language they are fluent in. I don't want them to feel I'm some kind of scam artist trying to steal the rights to their photos, I will contact them in the next day or two if no one wants to do it.
292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 24, 2014, 09:20:17 AM
Hey everyone, Here's the site that will be nemcoin.info
nemcoin.info
Current Versions are at:
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.8.html (black theme)
and
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.7.html (blue theme)

Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gbp1rivOTFZvtBG0_rJabUyyKbDuZjMBx9jiifBJO0c/edit?usp=sharing   (nemcoin.info proposal)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PL5hs94Bf822uT75Ix2NcjPfL1ljeVk16mdhcqM-Gm0/edit?usp=sharing (contributor list)

Please give me your input, I have appreciated all the suggestions so far! Do you like the black or blue theme? I prefer the blue theme as I think it is more welcoming, but the black theme would go well with ournem.com
Also not an "updates" section will be the next thing I implement.
**I can use more pictures, etc for the website, read the google docs for more info on how you can help, thanks!**
293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 23, 2014, 08:34:05 PM
Ok, not to sound annoying, but today I had a friend over, and I showed her a post that had the signature "New Economy Movement." I told her to find out what that the signiture was referring to. She couldn't. Not with Google, not with anything.

I then told her to find out about Nem. And she couldn't She was even smart enough to search for the terms, "Nem economy," "Nem economy movement," Nem new economy movement." And nothing. And the only reason she thought of doing that was because she already heard the phrase "New Economy Movement."

I think that's a legitimate problem. If it's not going to be Nem Coin, we need to add something to it to make it a unique enough of a search term.

Maybe with should go about this the same way we're doing with the logos. With suggestions of something that can enhance the name Nem that makes it a searchable term on the internet. And perhaps something that also sounds good in Chinese, Japanese, German.

The term will be associated with NEM in due course, don't worry.  Wink


will be NEM ?  Isn't it too late?  Look what your Google finds with "NEM".

If it is possible, the NEM page should be added to here (by page's owner):

https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/home

Then, in Index, do "search like Google", "search", "send to ".


After that NEM people should use Google and search "New Economy Movement" and other related words, and from the Google's list should pick NEM pages, which increases the importance of NEM pages.



PS. now "NEM - New Economy Movement" is 15th in Google's list, not so bad ...  maybe it is already in index. Google finds 150 000  "new economy movement".


I just added ournem.com to https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/home. It will take sometimes for the search engine to recognize the site though. I am not even sure that the site has been properly indexed by Google.

I was able to access a cached ournem.com when the website was down the other day, So i assume that means they have indexed it already? Just kind of assuming though...
294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 23, 2014, 06:00:42 AM
Looking at all the threads for uninspired altcoins, it's clear that NEM is really unique. Not sure how we got such a great community of people together, but somehow UtopianFuture pulled it off.

Remember guys, no envy.

Also, should someone try to e-mail these guys and ask for photos to use on ournem.com?
https://vimeo.com/85843499

There are some sweet photos online at: http://raskalov-vit.livejournal.com/134512.html
I'm thinking something like this with the crane photoshopped out: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9756/65616424.8c/0_a0bb3_4aa09adb_XXL.jpg

It appears they are fluent in Russian? I would ask them for permission, but if someone that speaks Russian well could get in touch with them, that would be awesome.
295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 19, 2014, 11:26:13 PM
Sorry, but this logo remember nazi....heil hitler, and i don't like.


hey guys!

this is not at all finished, but more a try to push logo-styles in a different direction. (not alwas letters)
what do think about the symbol of a fist in general?



kind regards,
upekha

I like it alot!

In general it's a cool logo, but seems to represent the opposite of what NEM is about.
Red, angry fist crushing the world is what I get from it.
Your skills are topnotch but maybe something a little "friendlier" would be cool.
296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 18, 2014, 07:00:24 PM
Back to forging >
Coins still have to be sent around so people can forge. ( i think )
Would it be a good idea for all stakeholders to say donate and pass a parcel of coins around to the next stakeholder on the list. Would this help liquidity?

I believe part of the POI model will include a "timer" of sorts on the coins. You can only forge with your current coins if you have had them for a certain amount of time, (To prevent fraud). UP will be giving out more information soon.

I am no expert but wouldn't that just encourage hoarding?  

It sure would and it's the first time I hear this timer thing in regards to POI but I might have missed it. Even if there is a timer though there are plenty of other factors that will discourage hoarding.

Here's what was written up on the development page:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NhxTyi4Eo2D_1m1Ca8zvzQr0_RB0dgM2VuWXAIzcS-I/edit#
Quote
In order to combat this, NEM proposes a novel Proof-of-Importance (POI) forging algorithm that rewards the nodes that are most important to the network. Each node will have a weight equal to the number of days each coin has been in the account. Forging power is a factor of a node’s weight and the NEM transfers that link it to other nodes. Transactions with more important nodes will be weighted more heavily than transactions with less important nodes.
Not just a timer, and not set in stone either, but my understanding is that it will be a model similar to this.
297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 18, 2014, 06:23:48 PM
Back to forging >
Coins still have to be sent around so people can forge. ( i think )
Would it be a good idea for all stakeholders to say donate and pass a parcel of coins around to the next stakeholder on the list. Would this help liquidity?

I believe part of the POI model will include a "timer" of sorts on the coins. You can only forge with your current coins if you have had them for a certain amount of time, (To prevent fraud). UP will be giving out more information soon.
298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 06:30:32 AM
UP has already commented on this when other users were saying the same thing you just put. They have been advertising, as well as word of mouth, and other user's friends. I know 3 of my friends recently joined and sent in the 0.75 BTC required. They had no idea about crypto currency or even Bitcoin until I told them and I am even new to all this. Do you expect people who never heard of crytpo currency or NEM to automatically be a veteran user on this forum? I don't post anything but I read everyday on here and I have been ever since I heard of NEM. Doesn't make me a sock puppet account or a multiple stake holder of NEM. If they are buying more stakes than what they are allowed and trying to get away with it than hopefully they will be caught and the funds returned but if not than there is nothing we can do about it.

I completely agree. I know I can account for at least two people that created bitcointalk accounts and bought a NEM stake just because I explained it to them.
By my post count you can tell I'm rather new as well, it doesn't mean that all or most of the new accounts are "sock-puppets", I am really happy with the distribution and that's why I recommended this cryptocurrency to my friends out of all the others out there.
299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXTL: Next Coin Lite 3 - NEXT UPGRADED - Fair Distribution - Topic 2 on: February 01, 2014, 09:43:42 AM
I'm interested, count me in!
300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM -4 billion coins- Equal Shares for ALL - Registration thread (part 2) on: January 31, 2014, 07:33:21 PM
Add me to the list, thanks!

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