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281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Round of 16! on: April 27, 2022, 11:53:04 PM
Villareal still lucky to go home two goals behind Liverpool since that could have been three or four. There's no coming back from this but "miracles" do happen in football.
Liverpool shots on target were only 5 although all shot attempts were 19. So, making 2 goals in this match is good enough, I don't think they deserve to make 4 goals. Liverpool needs to improve their shots on target in the next Leg if they want a bigger score. Sure, there will be always a miracle, we cannot judge Villareal is already eliminated from UCL. If Villareal applies a different strategy in the next Leg, they may give a surprise to Liverpool. But they must more brave to attack if they want to make 3 goals or more. They cannot use a defensive strategy anymore.

282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 27, 2022, 11:46:57 PM
Inter Milan blow it off, what a chance to go on top, AC Milan will be truly relieve seeing Inter Milan dropping point against Bologna,was so shock seeing inter Milan losing this game,is up to AC Milan to win there remaining matches so they can win the league and they will be deserving winners
I'm also surprised to see Inter lose in this match, they really missed a big chance to lead the table. After a great improvement on Inter performance (won all the matches previously), today they played so differently. If we look at the stats, they played well, but they are careless in their defense. They only focus on their attacking, they are not aware of their opponent is also good at attacking. Sadly, Inter attacking in this match isn't very effective, they too much missed the chance to score. They must take a big learn from this match, to be more careful and do an effective attacking.

283  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The market is confusing on: April 26, 2022, 11:58:37 PM
If your goal is simple, that is to buy low and sell high, seeing a movement in the opposite direction of your order should not produce impulses in your mind. Rather see if the opposite order is worth performing, like selling some well already having buy orders at lower price.
It is not as simple as you describe.
Everyone knows that the basic principle is 'buy at a low price, sell at a higher price'.
Sometimes, when there is a big FUD, this basic principle cannot work. When we panic, we only focus on how to secure our money. And for the person who doesn't want to lose all their money, the immediately to do cutloss. This action sometimes is taken without full awareness, it is just spontaneous action.
284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What happens to $DOGE after Elon Musk bought Twitter? on: April 26, 2022, 11:51:06 PM
Right after Elon Musk bought Twitter, DOGE set up a green column of +20%. Not only DOGE but BTC also recovered quickly back to the $40k7 area, making the whole market prosper this morning.
This increase only lasts 2 days (April 25-26), now the price has dropped again. We cannot expect much to Doge price if crypto market is in a bearish trend. Although there is a temporary increase like yesterday, it won't always happen in Doge. Elon Musk bought Twitter for himself, not specifically for promoting Dogecoin. Don't be easily affected by those people who stated Doge price to increase to $1 after Elon Musk buys Twitter.

Now, Doge price decreased about 12% and BTC dropped around 6%.
285  Other / Archival / Re: Bears continue to dominate on: April 23, 2022, 11:11:13 PM
Bitcoin is wearing a bullish look in a bear market conditions, and the next 3 months can be undecided and unclear to many market analysts but for prediction, the price may raise $50k region
What does it mean? It is clear that we are in the bearish trend, the price of BTC has dropped much since its new ATH. $68k t0 $39k, the drop is nearly half of its new ATH. I am not sure how fast Bitcoin to increase again above $50k, but surely not impossible to see that price level again in the next 3 months.

but am optimistic about the fact that new price record will arrive before the end of this year's 2022.
New ATH before the end of this year?
To be honest, I doubt it. I assume it needs a longer time to recover and creates a new ATH. Mostly a new ATH to be achieved in the Bullrun season. Since it just ended last year, it probably takes more than 3 years to have another ATH.

286  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Perlu kah edukasi buat crypto ? on: April 23, 2022, 10:59:54 PM
setelah pemerintah menetapakan pajak maka status crypto di negara kita secara tidak langsung menjadi legal
Status legal untuk investasi crypto itu sudah legal jauh-jauh hari sebelum isu penetapan pajak. Legalitasnya berlaku semenjak diterbitkan peraturannya dari Bappebti. Yang menentukan legalitas masalah investasi itu bukan instansi perpajakan, tapi Bappebti. Pajak crypto hanyalah sebuah follow-up dari legalnya aktifitas investasi dan perdagangan crypto di Indonesia. Karena pemerintah merasa layak dikenai pajak, maka ditetapkanlah aturan pajak mulai Mei mendatang.

sehingga banyak para pendatang baru bermunculan akibat iklan, dan ikut-ikutan baik dari teman atau karna artis yang terjun  ke cryptodan di sinilah perlu adanya eduakasi agar mereka tidak jatuh pada sebuah penipuan dan sebuah fomo karna kurangnya ilmu dan pengalaman,,,
Efek ini bukan karena berlakunya pajak crypto, tapi karena banyaknya influencer yang memberi iming-iming manis. Apalagi ada yang sampai memberikan semacam testimoni kesuksesan crypto, akhirnya orang-orang tergiur oleh narasi yang dibuat oleh para influencer dan pemberi testimoni.
287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: April 22, 2022, 11:00:59 PM
Yeah, Ralf Rangnick indeed confirmed that Paul Pogba is leaving Manchester United this summer one hundred percent. This is not good to hear for me honestly. Because it would be a huge loss for Manchester United while starting with a clean slate. I assume that Erik ten Hag wouldn't like to lose him but there is nothing that he can do about it.
Pogba doesn't comfortable staying in Man United, so leaving is the right way. We cannot blame him, we don't know what's really happening with him. 
Man United strategy looks not suitable for Pogba, and Pogba seems it is no longer a proper place for him. We must support his decision to leave, Pogba may have a better performance in his new club. Erik ten Hag cannot automatically make Man United be a good club, it is just another speculation if Pogba tries to stay and waits for a better form from Man United.
288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 22, 2022, 10:28:23 PM
Inter - Roma is one of the crucial and difficult games for Inter for sure. Roma are not a piece-of-cake opponent for Inter these days. Because they haven't been losing for so many weeks and this would help them resist quite well against Inter in this game. It is going to be depending how much Inter perform in this game too of course.
Yes, the result of this match will be very crucial for Inter, it may determine whether to win the title or miss it. After this match, Inter seems to have only against weak teams, they are probably easy to collect full points. But it won't be easy to beat Roma, Roma is unbeaten in the last 5 matches. Roma is also struggling to stay in the Europa League zone, so they must play all out and try hard to collect points. I agree that Inter is the favorite team to win because they have a big motivation and play at home, but I am optimistic that Roma will try their best to get even 1 point only.

289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is the sign of bull market start on: April 21, 2022, 10:32:41 PM
The condition of cryptocurrency market depends on economical situation in the world.
The more unstable economical situation in the world the higher is the inflation the more demand in cryptocurrency.
The demand can be affected by the world economical situation, but it doesn't fully depend on it. The demand can be affected by many factors, even manipulation can trigger the rise in the demand. But mostly the demand is affected by the news and the trend in crypto market. If crypto has a lot of good news, the demand probably increase since many investors believe in crypto future. Another reason, when crypto market seems to start a bullish season, the demand must increase massively. I think these factors have a bigger role than the world economical situation.

290  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: buy my home with bitcoin on: April 21, 2022, 10:24:22 PM
If you want to own a property in Jakarta, you can contact me, I sell for 2 bitcoins only
if interested pm me Wink
Please tell us first about the detail of the property you offer for 2 BTC.
Although the location is in Jakarta, I think 2 BTC is an expensive price for a property. But it is okay if the property is quite big and the land is large. So, let people here know about the detail, dude.

I want to ask about the legality. As far as I know, Bitcoin cannot be used as a payment tool in Indonesia. Is it legal to sell your property for Bitcoin? Although you are selling it in this forum, the property is located in Indonesia, right?
291  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Twitter & Elon musk on: April 21, 2022, 10:05:30 PM
Antara saham dan perusahaan itu sama saja, kalau elon mau beli 100% saham artinya beli sebuah perusahaan seutuhnya, dia yang pegang kendali untuk memilih CEO, CTO, Marketing dsb. Sedangkan sekarang cuma pegang sekian persen saham, untuk membuat keputusan, membutuhkan sign dari beberapa pemegang saham lainnya.
Baik, gan. Terima kasih untuk feedbacknya.

Seperti riwayat-riwayat sebelumnya, dia seakan-akan berambisi mengendalikan harga koin untuk kepentingannya sendiri dengan cara mengambil alih platform yang paling berpengaruh seperti Twitter dan membuat berita yang menjadikan harga koin yang di pegngnya menjadi to the moon, sudah bisa kita simpulkan sejak awal dia ikut terjun ke dunia crypto dan sampai sekarang.
Ini maksudnya cara dia memanipulasi harga koin dengan menguasai platform yang punya pengaruh besar untuk menggiring opini orang-orang di seluruh dunia? Kalau dilihat-lihat, Twitter ini memang salah satu sosial media yang aktif digunakan oleh orang-orang mana saja di penjuru dunia. Kalau dia benar-benar bisa membeli saham Twitter 100%, maka sudah pasti dia dengan mudah memanfaatkan Twitter untuk kepentingannya. Entah menjadikan harga koin tertentu to the moon atau hanya sekedar ingin bikin hype sesuatu. Tapi saya pribadi gak yakin CEO Twitter mau ngejual Twitter.
292  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Twitter & Elon musk on: April 20, 2022, 11:17:34 PM
Topik ini bukannya sudah ada di global? Saya kira kalau mau membahas dengan konteks serupa, lebih baik fokus di threadnya yang di global saja.

Kalau dari bahasa beritanya, EM ini bukan mau membeli saham Twitter tapi memang mau membelinya secara utuh. Artinya dia mau beli Twitter untuk menjadi ownernya. Masalahnya, apa mau CEO Twitter menjualnya? Saya kok gak yakin ya mereka mau menjualnya.  Tongue

-snip- Elon Musk in an interview says Twitter ads be better to be paid in bitcoin. -snip-
Saya coba cari sumber asli pernyataan tersebut namun belum menemukannya.
Sepertinya ini pernyataan EM ketika live interview. Coba search aja video Live nya di YT, gan. Kalau ada, sepertinya bisa dicek di sana. Tetapi kalau memang tidak ada pernyataan EM seperti itu,  kemungkinan itu cuman bahasa media saja yang ingin laku beritanya.
293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: I am big fan of SHIBA on: April 20, 2022, 11:09:52 PM
It depends on your belief, if you believe the Shiba token will be a great token in the future, then you can keep it. Apart from that, you should also monitor the progress of the Shiba team in developing their platform. So you don't miss any information.
Don't only depend on belief, it is not a proper way to treat meme tokens. Except, you are investing in BTC, ETH, BNB, or other top coins. Because SHIB is a meme token, you need to know when the best time to buy-hold and when you must sell-exit from SHIB investment. Most meme tokens only rely on the news or hypes to increase their values. If there is nothing interesting or no good news related to the token anymore, be careful that the price/value will drop significantly and continously.

294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are bounties dead? on: April 19, 2022, 10:35:37 PM
Most of the bounties are not good projects and are gone after launch on pancakeswap or any other DEX and they only want to promote the project and don't want quality promotion also most of the accounts for promoting are also greedy for rewards that way they have no quality and joining every project, so I think bounties are not coming good quality but I hope in future may come good bounties.
The funny thing, if you assume bounty is not good to join now, why you are involved in a signature campaign?
Do you think the signature campaign you are joining now is the only good project in 2022?

I don't want to discuss the quality of new projects. But some bounties are good enough, many people earn some money from that bounties. As long as you can determine which bounties that are good to join, you won't regret promoting shit projects. What you need is to have the ability in analyzing the bounties, choose a potential bounty only. Don't join random bounties, without analyzing them first.
295  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying BTC vs Mining it on: April 19, 2022, 10:27:32 PM
For me, buying Bitcoin is a better option than mining Bitcoin. It's because electricity is costly and Bitcoin is illegal in my jurisdiction.
Agree. To mine Bitcoin, we need a lot of money. Not only about the electricity costs, but mining equipment is also very expensive. I have counted how much money to use if we want to mine Bitcoin with a computer, and finally I decide to not doing it because it requires a big amount of money. In addition, we also need to master some tricks in mining, to get the maximum Bitcoin. This means mining requires a person who knows well this job, not recommended for a random person. It is quite different from trading or investing in Bitcoin, we only need to buy it and hold on exchange wallets. In this matter, buying Bitcoin is a very simple thing as long as we have an exchange account and funds there.

296  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin Price Enter the $30k Area? on: April 16, 2022, 10:33:35 PM
I think bitcoin is currently bottoming at $39k-$40k and will bounce back.  BTC has been falling for the past few weeks and I believe bitcoin is still growing, the long term trend is still bullish.  I believe we are still in a bull market and not a bear market… Most likely this is the last correction before BTC heads towards $60k
You seem quite confident that the Bitcoin price won't drop again below $40k and still possible to reach $60k. To be honest, I don't expect much for the Bitcoin price to reach $60k again. The Bullrun period should end already if we analyze it based on the halving schedule. But the Bullrun scheme in the current halving BTC may be a bit different from the previous years. Moreover, there is still some good news related to Bitcoin adoption and its uses in daily life. This may support the Bullrun period to be longer.

297  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Using a Stop loss "Good" or "Bad" on: April 16, 2022, 10:26:06 PM
So is using a stop loss good or bad?
Stop-loss is just a feature for trading. Good or bad using it, depends on the trader himself.
For an active trader, I think it is not necessary to use stop-loss because he is always active to check and monitor the market every day. Whenever he wants to sell, he just puts their tokens/coins into the sell order. While for a passive trader, he may need it to avoid extreme losses when there is a huge correction/drop.

Do we have traders that trade without them, if yes what's your win ratio using this strategy?
I rarely use stop-loss, I am always checking my coins/tokens in the exchanges every day. Regarding the win ratio, I never count it and I don't really think about it so much. As far as I think it works properly, I will go with my own way.

298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 15, 2022, 11:58:46 PM
Milan leads the table only temporarily as Inter have one match yet to be played meaning Inter are just waiting for the schedule to regain the standings
We can see Milan chances of winning the title are getting lower their position is no longer advantageous
Yes, Milan is leading the table now but it may be only temporary. If Inter wins their next match, they will lead again the table. But I think there is a chance for Inter to lose points because they will play against Roma. Inter cannot underestimate Roma, they are one of the strong teams in Serie A league. If inter only gets a draw result, Milan will remain to lead the table. For now, I don't think we can judge the chance for Milan to win the title is getting lower, the chance is still very open. Now, it depends on the result of Inter in the next match.

299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: April 15, 2022, 11:52:15 PM
Sevilla - Real Madrid game is a hard one to predict the result. Real Madrid have had a superb season so far and they are favourite here also. But bookies don't think that they are so close to a win. Sevilla are doing quite well in their games home and they wouldn't lose this one that easy. If Sevilla score first, I will feel pretty confident about their not losing this. Otherwise Real Madrid might take the win.
We cannot determine the winner from the first goal in that match. Although Sevilla scores first, I don't think it makes them automatically not lose the match. Real Madrid is a team that never gives up till the match ends. They are often to come back in the 2nd half, so it is very possible overtaking Sevilla although Sevilla has 1 goal advantage in the 1st half. Anyway, Sevilla may have a good record against other teams in their home, but now they are against Real Madrid. We may see a different result here.

300  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Losing in trading needs questioning on: April 14, 2022, 11:59:13 PM
Losing in trading is a normal condition right?
Except that we are losing again and again withoit any evaluation and better trading strategy fir the nect. That's not trading but gambling.
But everyone must experience losing when trading. It doesn't mean that we are not learning. But sometimes the condition changes immediately.
The most important thing is we can kearn from the loss fot evaluation for the next trading
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