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281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: August 25, 2016, 05:38:29 PM
if you can stop better and outstanding. rather than imposing kept playing and the results are always bad.

gambling is not easy, but gambling look easy, so people who get into gambling, sometimes difficult to get out and ended up becoming addicted.
282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: August 25, 2016, 05:32:17 PM
Over 2.5 goals @1.72 will be interesting choice for St Etienne vs Beitar Jerusalem, from my opinion this clash has some good potential for more than 3 goals, St Etienne will play with more confidence because it's already in leading position and on other side Beitar Jerusalem will try to find some hole to make level this and end with winning touch there.

over 2.5 goals looks possible. but my feeling says this match will be under 2.5 goals, I'll take the under 2.5 goals. Beitar Jerusalem will not make a goal at home St Etienne, they even lost at home and only scored 1 goal. I think St Etienne will win this match with a score of 2-0 or 1-0 was enough for St Etienne.
283  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: August 25, 2016, 05:20:07 PM
I think yes, it could become more popular, due to stable prices, bitcoin can be used as currency. For example, when large companies adopt bitcoin to pay employees with bitcoin, this is not a problem when the bitcoin prices stable. but if it is not stable, large companies will think twice to adopt bitcoin if used to pay employees.
284  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: August 25, 2016, 05:07:00 PM
If you want to have bitcoin as salary, you better think twice.
It is not as stable as fiat. It is not as reliable as fiat.
If you only live by yourself, maybe you could risk it.

You are very correct, bitcoin can not be used as a salary. as most people say large companies will adopt bitcoin and pay employees with bitcoin. This may be an advantage for the company when the bitcoin price rises and losses for both sides when the price falls.
285  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Changed my life has it changed yours? on: August 25, 2016, 05:01:17 PM
well, bitcoin help me to growing my income.I consider it as my part time job and I am started to earning a decent amount with bitcoin.Now, currently bitcoin give me more money and relax. yes,it's changed my life little. I am now with bitcoin for ever.

yes bitcoin also grow my income, even bitcoin provide income that is greater than my real job. so I took a full-time in bitcoin and bitcoin really has changed my life, after I decided to go full-time in bitcoin.
286  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: August 25, 2016, 04:45:20 PM
I will invest on trading and investment and also i will buy house for down payment and i will continue to use bitcoin to enlarge the amount that i have. soon the amount that i have will be double and will enough for the house and other billings.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Is 10 btc enough for the down payment for home? I think it will be too low amount for that as homes have become very expensive now and 10 btc would not be sufficient I guess.

I think it depends on each country, also depending on the type of home that is how. 10 BTC enough to be a down payment for a home.
but I think it's not a good idea to be a down payment for a home. better to grow it. after getting a lot of results, then immediately buy a house.
287  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is there to do with bitcoins these days ? on: August 25, 2016, 04:41:12 PM
Well the really good thing about bitcoin at the moment is its ability to transfer to anywhere in the world for very little fees this is why I think it has potential but if somehow this is not the case anymore people will move onto other crypto currencies


Yes even if it is so far as long as there is some technology that could make them withdrew the money that you have sent through bitcoin. Although I am using it in just our country but I send it in a far place and they can withdraw what I send in an ATM machine from a bank.

Once people are aware about bitcoins then I am sure they will not prefer to use banks, WU or Paypal for money transfers as they charge too heavy from their customers.

I think not, they will keep to use all of it. because bitcoin is currently not able to do the same things as other payments.
especially bitcoin is still limited and only a few that accept bitcoin. but if in the future may bitcoin will beat paypal, WU or the other.
288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: August 24, 2016, 05:12:05 PM
problem gambling is an urge to gamble continues despite harmful negative consequences or a desire to stop. severe gambling problems can be diagnosed if the gambler meets certain criteria and it's disorder associated with both social and family costs.

289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: August 24, 2016, 05:02:17 PM
investments in gambling is risky, but the risk is higher if a player of gambling. because if you look on the maxim that the owner of the house always wins, should those who invest in it can benefit from gamblers always lose Grin
290  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Your friend just know about Bitcoin and said he just invested into cloud mining. on: August 24, 2016, 04:33:24 PM
I have a friend like that, but it happened already one year ago. when it was cloud mining very crowded. I previously was the victim of cloud mining and stop investing there. when I just tell my friend about cloud mining that is less good. but he ignored my advice and finally he was regret. indeed sometimes the experience is that can prove it, so people believe.
291  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: August 24, 2016, 04:24:14 PM
I have been thinking about this lately, how can you tell the difference between currency and investment?
Because if you have something of value then you can trade it which makes it equal to a currency.
And when you have something that has value of currency only then you can turn it into an investment.
So currency or investment, both are the same.

referred to as a currency or investment is, if you use as currency, you only use bitcoin to buy something or items in online with bitcoin. but if for investment, you would try to grow bitcoin and get bitcoin  as much as possible. it is real, like my friend who only use bitcoin as a currency, to buy games steam with bitcoin.
292  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: August 24, 2016, 03:50:54 PM
Lets say I want to buy bitcoins today and store them for 20 years to use a my retirement fund.  Live comfortably, but don't need to buy a yacht or anything.  How many do you think I would need to buy?
We don't know what will happen 20 years from now, maybe bitcoin will not survive to that date or maybe bitcoin will survive but the price is unpredictable because its characteristic of not being stable and that's the one reason why bitcoin is unique. So while you're still alive just don't be outdated of the news related to bitcoin. So you can control your coins anytime.
it is always have to side possibility , became worthy or became worth nothing ,
noone can guarantee bitcoin will keep growing and survive for years even satoshi the inventor ,
so don't go allin in this awesom bitcoin world , but keep your faith in bitcoin ,
i myself planning to hold 10 bitcoin atleast as future investment.

I think bitcoin is not going anywhere at least for next 10 years but not sure what will happen in future, so I will never hold my coins for next 20 years but will sell when I am satisfied with the price.

Only those people will hold their coins for 20 years who will have a full and stronger believe on bitcoin and will know that yes in the coming future bitcoin will take over the world financial system and it will be a global currency with a much higher value. and the whales also have stomach to afford to hold them as they can manipulate the price what they will want.
And they deserve to be rewarded when they reach that number of years on holding their bitcoins, that is a tough challenge in their part as in 20 years many events will happen in the bitcoin economy.
Yes only those who believe with bitcoin is capable of holding up to 20 years in the future, although uncertain about the future of bitcoin. but if bitcoin journey towards the next 10 years at least is growing very rapidly, it is able to make a big change in the price.
but I also would not hold too long, if I am satisfied with the price, I also better to sell.

Risktakers would surely hold those coins for sure for a long time because they have high hopes in bitcoin that it would increase its price  into the moon and make them millionaires in the future, same as you said i would sell my coins in the price  that i could see that  im profitable enough.

if I have a lot of savings, I dare to take all the risks on bitcoin, because when something bad happens, I do not have to be sad, I still have a lot of money. but if you do not have a savings, then take the risk. when all was lost. you have nothing and it could be crazy.
293  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: August 24, 2016, 03:46:39 PM
Being rich does change something. You have what to live off a whole life. However, having a family and being healthy is the key to happiness like you said.

As the saying goes, money may not buy happiness, but it is still better to cry in a Jaguar than on a bus

but nowadays I am seeing that money will attract your friends and relative to you and they will help you in any situation you face, and will be with you in any happiness and sadness, while if you will not have any money then they will leave you and will not care about you and this thing escape away happiness from our lives.
In general money is everything because when we have money we will achieve financial freedom and we can do all the thing that we cannot do when we are still poor or living an average life.
sometimes people say money is not everything, but everything need money. does not need to be rich, but the life of the affluent is good enough, rather than a shortage.
For poor people money is everything and even rich people I guess, with money you can do what like to do just to make you happy so money is really important. Without money, you cannot spend in times of crisis.
yeah, money is a really great thing and can allow you to live a better quality life because of that i invest into bitcoins right now to make money later
though you should not forget that money is definitely not everything, i think that you could get rich by just holding your bitcoins
if you just holding bitcoin, then something bad happened that bitcoin has no value. it could be worse. but holding money remains important, so the money really everything.
294  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 24, 2016, 03:39:20 PM
It's not hard to save money. All you have to do is to think of it this way: Do I really need this? Do I really need to spend money on this? When the answer comes to you, you will know what to do Wink .

Yes separating the only wants from the really need.   Wink  Most of us were impulsive buyer, sometimes if we go to the mall and saw a buy one take one tag we tend to buy that even if we really do not need it.  We would go to the mall and buy whenever we hear that they were on sale even if you don't need it.  We sometimes buy because of peer pressure like this friend of yours had bought the latest toothpick and you really want to blend in and want to say that you are on the trend so you would buy a golden toothpick.   Grin

To avoid being an impulsive buyer, never bring money with you when you go to malls. Leave your credit cards, atm cards and cash at your home and then go to the mall. So even if you are tempted to buy anything on sale, you cannot because you do not have money with you. I do that all the time because I too can be impulsive buyer. Or sometimes, I will tell the sales lady that I will return to buy an item, then I will go around the mall. After walking a while, the impulsive buying will wear out and I will not spend any money.

What's the purpose of going to the mart if you are not going to buy anything there, I don't get it? Just walking idly and wasting your time eyeing around?

it was really weird, going to the mall did not bring money or anything. if you do not want to be tempted not to go to the mall, but you can choose to play with your friends, such as football if you like to play soccer or other things.
295  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 22, 2016, 03:18:42 AM
Need to make a plan of your spendings, the second step is understand why you saving this money and for what, the last step is just your power of will.
If a person lives in abundance, then save it will be easy. Because in the life of all that is unnecessary, you can refuse. But if you think every coin, then there is very difficult to do everything.
Not really all the time because there are people who does not have a discipline in saving money, the temptation is out their and if you will let that in your life you will not control your self in spending.
Yeah it does not depend on those who have lots of money or not and rich or poor. but this depends on the nature of each person. if they are used to living simply, they are usually more diligent in saving money for the future and the rich man could they live with wasteful, because it was able to earn a lot of money easily.
296  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: August 22, 2016, 03:09:05 AM
Being rich does change something. You have what to live off a whole life. However, having a family and being healthy is the key to happiness like you said.

As the saying goes, money may not buy happiness, but it is still better to cry in a Jaguar than on a bus

but nowadays I am seeing that money will attract your friends and relative to you and they will help you in any situation you face, and will be with you in any happiness and sadness, while if you will not have any money then they will leave you and will not care about you and this thing escape away happiness from our lives.
In general money is everything because when we have money we will achieve financial freedom and we can do all the thing that we cannot do when we are still poor or living an average life.
sometimes people say money is not everything, but everything need money. does not need to be rich, but the life of the affluent is good enough, rather than a shortage.
297  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: August 22, 2016, 03:00:31 AM
Lets say I want to buy bitcoins today and store them for 20 years to use a my retirement fund.  Live comfortably, but don't need to buy a yacht or anything.  How many do you think I would need to buy?
We don't know what will happen 20 years from now, maybe bitcoin will not survive to that date or maybe bitcoin will survive but the price is unpredictable because its characteristic of not being stable and that's the one reason why bitcoin is unique. So while you're still alive just don't be outdated of the news related to bitcoin. So you can control your coins anytime.
it is always have to side possibility , became worthy or became worth nothing ,
noone can guarantee bitcoin will keep growing and survive for years even satoshi the inventor ,
so don't go allin in this awesom bitcoin world , but keep your faith in bitcoin ,
i myself planning to hold 10 bitcoin atleast as future investment.

I think bitcoin is not going anywhere at least for next 10 years but not sure what will happen in future, so I will never hold my coins for next 20 years but will sell when I am satisfied with the price.

Only those people will hold their coins for 20 years who will have a full and stronger believe on bitcoin and will know that yes in the coming future bitcoin will take over the world financial system and it will be a global currency with a much higher value. and the whales also have stomach to afford to hold them as they can manipulate the price what they will want.
And they deserve to be rewarded when they reach that number of years on holding their bitcoins, that is a tough challenge in their part as in 20 years many events will happen in the bitcoin economy.
Yes only those who believe with bitcoin is capable of holding up to 20 years in the future, although uncertain about the future of bitcoin. but if bitcoin journey towards the next 10 years at least is growing very rapidly, it is able to make a big change in the price.
but I also would not hold too long, if I am satisfied with the price, I also better to sell.
298  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin dropped to $1, what you do? on: August 22, 2016, 01:52:26 AM
Many people here don't seem to understand bitcoin at all. Bitcoin at 1$ can't happen. As it drops, either there is no particular flaw and the drop won't go too far, or there is a big flaw and bitcoin will simply die. Miners will stop their hardware, and you won't be able to even send or receive bitcoin, let alone exchange it for fiat.

Of course we all know that bitcoin is not going to fall at $1 but op is just getting the opinion of the people here and majority tells that it is going to be a good time for buying a lot of bitcoins. Because falling of bitcoin is going to be happen only for a short time and mostly the rising of price is going to be longer than its downfall.

If bitcoin falls to $1 then it will be the best time to collect maximum coins, as everyone is sure that it has an potential to rise again in future, so after that even if it reaches to $100 then it will be a great profit to earn.
I think the potential bitcoin after falling to $ 1 would fall dramatically I think once that happens, the better withstand the desire to buy because it is very likely the price will actually be down very sharply and the price may be dead. so look at the situation before buying dude

if you think about the logic when the price of bitcoin until could touch $1, it will not long survive. bitcoin is almost dead. so do not take a big risk by buying bitcoin as possible and expects the rise again. this is impossible.
299  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: August 22, 2016, 01:49:07 AM
Nope, i don't like to exchange my salary into fiat everytime, cause in my country bitcoin is still not accpeted and i am still wating for it, but i think it will not happen.

Me too I don't want to accept my salary for bitcoin because for me that is going to be risky at all and also here in my country the use of bitcoin is just limited. But if our country is going to be one of the most consumer of bitcoin then I am going to accept bitcoin as salary. Even it is going to be risky as long as there are stores that are going to accept then I am willing.
We are not the same but for me i want to receive my salary as bitcoin if if we are always relay in the present price of bitcoin..
Also after i receive bitcoin i can convert it fast in fiat here in my country..
I think the price is very volatile bitcoin prices may fall and rise very quickly.
That is correct, just for  example this day i receive my salary into bitcoin form and at this day i can losing some of my salary caused by the volatile of bitcoin price.
yes if it happens we will be loss, also are not sure the boss will replace our lost wages because bitcoin prices down.
so it is very risky receive a salary with bitcoin, it is still better to use fiat, no need to convert that surely will cost too.
300  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to motivate women to use Bitcoin? on: August 22, 2016, 01:45:22 AM
Don't motivate her, Just give bitcoins and say that she can buy something  Lips sealed Lips sealed

Well that is not going to make her motivated with bitcoins too if you are only going to give her bitcoins then you are just going to make her experience the use of bitcoin. But it is going to get there attention if they are going to experience the use of bitcoin. But we all know the saying that, 'give her fish and you are going to feed him for day, teach him how to fish then you are going to feed him for a lifetime.'

is the same as project new coins. they will give you free coins to get people interested. so that women are definitely interested if they are given a free bitcoin and at least be able to buy anything with it.
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