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281  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 12:44:58 PM
newdude, just refund him/send his GC's and let it be it. This is bad for everyone.
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I agree John.
282  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 12:30:52 PM
It might seem like there are a lot of back and forth messages, but only a few a day was exchanged, but since it unnecessarily dragged on for over a week, the messages added up.

  • If you look at hard facts, I paid him over a week ago, still haven’t received all codes yet, nor a refund. NOPE
  • He claims he gets codes almost every day, yet didn’t give me any of it. I do. And your ass wont get ANY OF IT.
  • He sells thousands to other people, yet can’t use incoming money to refund me. NOPE
  • Simply give me the GC codes, or a refund, that’s not too hard, and that’s the way it should be. NAH
  • If these simple facts are not enough, then dig a little deeper into his logic. Dealing with you is illogical. I said I owe you
  • Notice how there is no real content behind his words. Nope, I am a baseless bag of jibba jabba
  • Look at how much stalling he does. Its not stalling.
  • Ask him a real legitimate question and he won’t answer it and act hostile. This is true. I AM hostile.
  • He only makes $100 for every $5000 he sells, so discounting over 20% will put him into huge negatives. Why would you do this then? If you only had a brain. I do make money. If I didnt, I wouldn't sell them.
283  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 12:24:20 PM
You guys can drop my name into your conversations all you like, but this has nothing to do with me, its only because i was the first to spot it and that i sell my Associates earnings here...

You say you dont care if they are stolen and such, and that if 2 weeks have passed you are in the clear, just give me a break.

This is the MAIN POINT HERE 'BTC Guy'

Who would buy $1000 of GCs from Amazon.com, with a Credit Card. Then sell them on for $750 to make a $250 loss... SERIOUSLY

Whatever goes on with this guy, my whole arguement is he has never told anybody why he would do this!!! And yes i checked his codes out with Amazon, and they were purchased with a credit card in a bulk buy of $1000 (thats the ones i checked out from another thread he posted all the codes in) Maybe they are all purchased from the same account, there are plently of codes posted in this thread for you lot to check out, if they are, at the very least this is money laundering, and amazon are fully aware about this accounts actions now.

PS. Haploid i do feel for you a little, but i did point this out on the guys very first thread that simply his attitude was something to worry about.
Yeah, its my attitude.
I guess those fake accounts you claim I made are defending me too.
I guess I created BTC Guy too.
I am too old for this shit. (Danny Glover)
The main point is you are barking up a tree that you dont have a leg to stand on.
If I were mr scammer, I could sell $5,000 right now on this board.
You just get ready for April 29th.
Mr Occulta.
284  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 12:18:46 PM
EDIT: go to the next post for full details of the whole email convo

WOW dude, you are just so full of shit, I left for a few hours and come back with a few pages or rambling. I will post our very last two emails, while I organize the whole and complete string of email convo we've had in the meantime, so you can see what he left out in emails and how shady he really is. But for now, just look at the facts. He claims he gets tens of thousands of dollars almost every day, yet he can't use this money to give me a refund or the Amazon code that I bought. All I asked for was the codes I paid for, or a refund, so is that so hard to ask for? Seriously, why hold up my money and not give the codes or a refund?

All these are legit questions, and just look at how he never answers a single one, instead uses vulgar language and just swears at me. If you look at what he actually says, there's no real content behind it:



Quote from: haploid23
If you want to save whatever "reputation" you have left, then how about you answer these question instead of ignoring them:
 
1) You easily accepted my payment, yet not able to give a refund after a week. Where did this money go?
2) You had tons of other payments (~$4000 per day), why don't you use this money for my refund?
3) You went to the bank yesterday to get money for my refund, so where is it?
4) You kept getting $5000 in codes and sell it to many people, where are all the codes you owe me? Why give it to other people when I'm the one that already paid?
5) If you keep promising you'll give my codes or a refund "later today", and it's been a week, then where is it?
6) What's your excuse for every single day you couldn't provide the codes or a refund?
7) How much longer are you going to stall on this?
 

Like I said, refund or the code and I'll delete my posts in the forum, otherwise I post all of these emails messages in the forum soon.


Quote from: newdude
Fuck that.
I dont need a reputation anymore, I quit.
So go post that.
Your ass can go post bullshit, but cant repsond to me in a timely manner.
Impatient Vietnamese motherfucker. Go fuck yourself.
Your $600 is my reputation. And to think I was going to give you an extra 5% discount.
Stupid motherfucker.
Go get your codes from Occulta.
And to let you know, I got in 10,000$ in codes today alone. And they are already sold.
Will have another $10,000 by Friday.
So go post that.


Quote from: haploid23
Really now, just look at how many of my questions you actually answered. That's right, NONE. Instead, you go off on a rampage because I wanted a refund on codes you can't even give? Why are you the one mad again? You're holding my money, not giving me codes, and bragging how you get $5k - $10k every day, and you're mad? So you got in $10,000 today, knowing you still owe me $1,000 of it and decide to sell it off to someone else. You must either love this drama, or you never had a penny of that $10,000, and I'm guessing it's the 2nd option.
 
Damn, this is really like trying to argue with a rock. So basically " I don't need a reputation anymore, I quite, your $600 is my reputation" is you admitting you're going to keep it?


Yap yap yap. I already said I owe yoiu $570 or whatever it is.
285  Economy / Goods / Re: Gift Cards for Sale on: April 05, 2012, 04:17:18 AM
I disagree with the discount on these value cards. I think this guy is more likely legit selling over the odds, and nobody would purchase a $100 card and sell it for $80 would they, just look at 'newdude'.

Then again this guy could be 'newdude' trying another angle Smiley
Ha ha. You wish this was me coming at another angle.
I wouldnt even waste my time with anything less than $25.
Ha ha ha.
286  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 03:37:44 AM
I dont encourage theft. Nor do i jump to conclusions. If the codes work thats all i care about. How is gets them is none of my business. There could be 100 different explanations to how he acquires them. Until somebody here confirms he is scam i will buy his codes.
My point exactly.
Dont worry, as of now, I wont sell anymore e-codes here, PERIOD.
I havent scammed anyone.


awww I wanted to buy some codes too!!! too bad the haters ruined it.  Lips sealed
Hate hate hate hate!!! LOL
I will be back on April 29th.
Ok, its my bedtime.
I have to get up early in the morning.
287  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 02:47:59 AM
Take a deep breath newdude. Remain calm. Get your act together. Be polite and professional. Take care of the guy you owe. Come back with more codes. You will be fine.
Word to Big Bird.
Advice taken.
Get ready for April 29th. I will sell them all for 30% flat rate.
288  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 02:39:38 AM
I believe you john. I also believe in innocent until proven guilty.

Newdude, dont get sucked in to the shit storm. Stand your ground and sell me codes.
IF and thats a big IF I do ever sell codes on here again, it wont be until April 29th.
So if these codes are INDEED stolen or carded, it will be revealed by then.
I told this to Theymos and I will stand by what I said. He agreed.
But IF I do come back and sell, I will have more than EVER. And a larger discount also.
Let them try and beat 30 percent discount. It cant be beaten.
Yabba dabba doo! (Thats my catchphrase)

It kinda seems you like the attention and want to continue arguing about this. Why continue to debate this if your not gonna stick around? Lets cut to the chase and be direct. Are you going to sell more codes or not?

If you revealed your method (ain't really copy-able, who here runs a pawnshop?) earlier, then all of this trouble wouldn't have occurred. Anyway, just try selling here again on 29th. I would be one of your customers if all is well.
Werd to Big Bird!
289  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 02:38:33 AM
I will be buying!
Werd to Big Bird!
290  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 02:32:32 AM
At a 30% discount too.
So I guess that answer is YES. On April 29th.
291  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 02:31:07 AM
It kinda seems like you like the attention. Why continue talking about this if your not gonna stick around? Lets cut to the chase and be direct. Are you going to sell more codes or not?
I really dont care one way or the other.
I am trying to respond.
I already told you, if I do sell again, not until April 29.
Thats what I told Theymos and that what I will do.
No private transaction, no public transaction.
But dont worry. I will have around $50,000 or so on that date.
We shall see.


292  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 02:18:14 AM
Less talk more codes.
Nah, Im good.
293  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 02:17:35 AM
So the email reveals your way of getting these cheap, and it looks like a legit way of doing it. What I am confused about though, is the staunch refusal at first to say how you obtained the codes - I mean really, how the hell could we break in to that and make you less profitable, just by knowing how it is done? Not all of us run pawnshops. That was my initial turnoff, coupled with the somewhat childish --or at least excitable-- behavior when confronted with the very real possibility that it could be a scam or carded.

Being honest and upfront with everyone would have made the whole thing so much smoother and easier. When you come back next month, be sure to start a new thread instead of reviving this one, and then explain in the new thread that you are able to sell these at a discount because you got them by selling hardware which was purchased at a discount. Don't be so defensive when accused of scamming, and instead offer proof while remaining pleasant.

If you follow the simple tips above, you will enjoy a painless selling experience, and I might even suggest that you could sell just as quickly if you raised your price by a few percent - that is a few percent that goes right back into your pocket.


Ok, since you have high rep, I wont go off on you.
First of all, lets see:
Who was the FIRST to come out and call me a scammer? Occulta.
Why would he do that? Because HE has everything to lose.
I am not one to run from criticism, but coming from him, how dare HE question me?
If it came from YOU or someone else with rep, then fine. But it was HIM with the bullshit.
I agree with EVERYTHING you JUST said. Point taken.
See, that's how a dialogue is done. NOT the way OCCULTA came at me.
294  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 02:11:48 AM
I believe you john. I also believe in innocent until proven guilty.

Newdude, dont get sucked in to the shit storm. Stand your ground and sell me codes.
IF and thats a big IF I do ever sell codes on here again, it wont be until April 29th.
So if these codes are INDEED stolen or carded, it will be revealed by then.
I told this to Theymos and I will stand by what I said. He agreed.
But IF I do come back and sell, I will have more than EVER. And a larger discount also.
Let them try and beat 30 percent discount. It cant be beaten.
Yabba dabba doo! (Thats my catchphrase)
295  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 02:06:59 AM
You dealt with me many times on $2k+ transactions, like everyone else i have dealt with, flawless transactions.

Yet, again like everyone else your eyes probably lit up with this guys offers. Even if he does 'pull through' ill bet you 50BTC his GCs are carded.

To the guy asking what 'carded' means, this means someone is fraudulently using somebody elses credit card, to purchase goods.

Do not assume because you have your GCs that 180days down the line amazon put your accounts in negative balance, and ask for the money back!

My most recent transaction with newdude was over 1.5 weeks ago, and the transaction before that was over 2.5 weeks ago.  Total value was $2k+ in transactions.  I'm not sure where you came up with the 180 day number for a supposedly stolen Amazon gift card code to reveal itself, but let's say that you're correct about the assumption of 30 to 60 days for a cardholder to discover and report unauthorized charges.

By my clock, 60 days is about 2 months.  So by the end of May, if my Amazon account with its large gift card balance is still in good standing, and others can report that as well, I expect that you would owe newdude 50 btc, am I correct?
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If ANYONE would have said I was a scammer, it would be this guy. He was my #3 customer.
Even while all this bullshit Occulta was saying I was a scammer, this guy was STILL buying.
If I were still selling on this forum, Id bet a bag of nickels he STILL would buy from me!
The truth will set you free!
296  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 02:00:36 AM
Where is the popcorn?
297  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 02:00:13 AM
When i first started selling here i got the third degree too. Almost all new sellers do. People around here are very suspicious. And for good reason. Dont take it personal. Just do good business and eventually people will start to trust you and appreciate your service.

You wouldn't believe the amount of carders/scammers we saw here last year. I could say safely that almost 1/3 of sellers turned out to be a kind of scam last year.
I agree.
298  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 01:59:39 AM
When i first started selling here i got the third degree too. Almost all new sellers do. People around here are very suspicious. And for good reason. Dont take it personal. Just do good business and eventually people will start to trust you and appreciate your service.
Thanks for the confidence. But I retire from this board.
I mean, anyone with half a brain knows that almost any amount of credit card purchase will be verified.
When I use my Chase Visa, they freeze my card for any amount over $200. They then call me to verify the transaction.
So to sell $50,000 worth of Amazon codes, purchased with a stolen credit card, is highly obsurd.
Thanks man. Appreciate it.
299  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 01:39:24 AM
Dont give up there is good money to be made here. Just take care of the guy you owe and carry on.
I agree man. But this shit is too much! LOL.
I have been going non-stop at my job since 8am.
Could I give him Amazon codes right now this very second for 20-25% right now this very second and end this bullshit with him? Yes I can.
Will I? NOPE.
He can go buy his codes from somewhere else. Go and try to get 20% everyday from Occulta for chump change. He aint having that shit.
I am not going to give him the satisfaction of enjoying $150 extra. Fuck that. And yes, I am a Christian.
If this makes me shady, then call me shady.
I never lied to him or scammed him of ANYTHING.
And he said I owed him $1000, when I actually owe him $568.75. He needs to set the facts straight.
And anyone that I sold codes to, if they went first, they got their codes inside of 5 minutes.
If I went first, I didnt hound them over payment. I am way too busy to even care.

300  Economy / Goods / Re: DISCOUNT AMAZON CODES FOR SALE 20% DISCOUNT, not! on: April 05, 2012, 01:18:30 AM
I really dont care enough to read all that shit. You answered my question with your last post. If your not scam just ignore the people talking shit and do what you do. If you deliver i dont care what people say i will buy from you and im sure others will too.
Exactly.
But I am not selling anything else on here anyway.
Not now, not ever.
Everything I get is already sold the second I get it.
He just doesnt know how good he had it and would have had it. If he only had a clue.
So it doesnt matter, does it?
If I were indeed a scammer, I could have took his ass for $4,000 easy.
So when I can get away from my job and family, I will send his ass his $600.
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