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281  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 12, 2021, 12:03:03 AM

Did read the comment section of the SPIEGEL. You saw this exactly there. Also the engery consumption and it's a ponzi scheme... Also we have here 2 popular Germany tech sites. Same there... Bitcoin Bla Bla Bla...

I´ve seen this on Twitter but at 100k and Newsletter.

I read the comments section about Bitcoin of German newspapers for years. For years people say the exact same crap. And watch how the value goes up and up and up... Germans are really the last people on this planet in terms of waking up. They fucking love their government like no other folks. Its sad and scaring. The absolute sheeps. What did Lenin say once:"Revolution in Germany? That will never work, if these Germans want to storm a train station, they buy a train ticket first!"

Btw. I am from Germany.

Some of your neighbor countries are worse in this respect, though.
Trust me  Roll Eyes

OT: Wolfgang Van Halen, Eddie's son, drops his first solo album. He wrote the songs, sang them, and played instruments on them.

The boy can sing pretty well.

First single, worth a listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXqz_NNwT20

Seeking for a gap between Soundgarden and the Foo Fighters.
The guitar solo is sooo hollywood, but i didn't find nothing really bad in this track.
Would add nicely to any soundtrack of a car racing video game, imho.
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Did read the comment section of the SPIEGEL. You saw this exactly there. Also the engery consumption and it's a ponzi scheme... Also we have here 2 popular Germany tech sites. Same there... Bitcoin Bla Bla Bla...

I´ve seen this on Twitter but at 100k and Newsletter.

I read the comments section about Bitcoin of German newspapers for years. For years people say the exact same crap. And watch how the value goes up and up and up... Germans are really the last people on this planet in terms of waking up. They fucking love their government like no other folks. Its sad and scaring. The absolute sheeps. What did Lenin say once:"Revolution in Germany? That will never work, if these Germans want to storm a train station, they buy a train ticket first!"

Btw. I am from Germany.

Don't be so harsh or your fellow German citizens, its the same everywhere. The newspaper comments sections are not for readers to give their opinions. The comments section is for media to evaluate how well their propaganda has been assimilated. So comments will be what they've been fed over and over. So they repeat ponzi scheme, fraud, scam, you lose all your money, its used for crime, drugs, CP, tax evasion, money laundering, its not regulated, its not backed up by anything (like gold). The same people also are completely ignorant of how the debt based currency systems work. To my knowledge it is not taught in schools. I like you story of the Germans storming the train station but with tickets.
282  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 11, 2021, 11:24:27 PM
Happy New Year to those just waking up in China.

The year of the metal Ox.

Another bullish sign? or just bull.

283  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 09, 2021, 12:39:26 PM
Is it just me or is bitcoinity borked?
Their website certificate expired yesterday.
284  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2021, 11:23:57 PM

Sobering image I can remember with incredulity people posting here that one day Bitcoin would be the price of 1 oz gold. Now we are talking of Bitcoin overtaking market cap of gold. Also that institutions would one day be purchasing Bitcoin. Never in a million years I thought, a pipe dream. So here we are, thanks to all those who could see what the future would bring. I do still have some gold and silver The old Jew hating R0ach will be pleased silver is 2X when he was posting but Bitcoin 30X.   
285  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2021, 11:43:21 PM
Part of the problem here is that Parler is funded by Robert Mercer.   Robert Mercer was a founder of Cambridge Analytica and funder of Breitbart.  

I think this one individual has done more to divide America than anyone else (including Trump).  And it has been highly profitable for him.  

There has been no attempt to hold Robert Mercer accountable for his actions. This needs to change. The FBI should dig into his electronic correspondence to see if he had a role in the Capitol Riots.

https://www.reuters.com/article/parler-funding-mercer/social-media-platform-parler-gets-backing-from-mercer-family-wsj-idUSKBN27V020

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Robert Leroy Mercer (born July 11, 1946)[2] is an American hedge fund manager, former principal investor in the now-defunct Cambridge Analytica,[3] computer scientist who was an early artificial intelligence researcher and developer, and former co-CEO of the hedge fund company Renaissance Technologies.[2][4][5]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mercer

Edit: he also supported the Brexit campaign.  This guy is dark.

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Mercer played a key role in the campaign for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union by donating data analytics services to Nigel Farage.[6]

To no one’s surprise, he is a racist.

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Mercer has said that the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the landmark federal statute arising from the civil rights movement of the 1960s, was a major mistake. In 2017, David Magerman, a former Renaissance employee, alleged in a lawsuit that Mercer had said that African Americans were economically better off before the civil rights movement, that white racists no longer existed in the United States, and that the only racists remaining were black racists.


I think we can solve a lot of these problems and heal America through campaign finance reform. If we stop the firehose of money flowing from billionaires to politicians, we can eliminate much of the corruption.

The Democrats control all three arms of government for two years and they have the means to overturn much of the US campaign finance laws.  This will fix at least some of the sickness at the source.  Unfortunately I have my doubts that they can do it with such a narrow majority, they only need one dissenter. 


I'll see your Robert Mercer and raise you a George Soros.

Plenty of people in the United Kingdom supported Brexit. Most / plenty were never influenced by any outside source for wanting to step outside of the EU simply because of the fact the United Kingdom was never under German control during the second world war. Many people in the UK hardly saw the benefit of the EU as some type of protector in the division that caused two world wars. The UK never wanted the Euro thus any further proposed fiscal unification was only seen as a threat and loss of control.

Add in the exodus from half of Syria (supposedly, there were many from different nations who took advantage) to Europe starting in 2015 and the Brexit vote was pretty much sealed when that was going on.
It was easy to make some money in the UK on the Brexit vote betting via bookmakers as it was about 10 to 1 for leave!

Robert Mercer was never needed to do a damn thing.
Nigel Farage never managed to get himself elected as a member of parliament. His influence, yes it was there as a barking dog in the EU parliament, was hardly needed to sway anyone.
In addition, you only have to go back 10 years before the Brexit vote and find out that in fact the Liberal Democrats wanted an in out referendum as well. Nothing to do with Robert Mercer or Nigel Farage.

That is about as real a take as it gets, you must live in the UK.
In a democracy the majority decide, not the educated, the elite, the left or right.
Most who voted leave had held that view long before a referendum was called.
The only people who did not see the leave majority vote coming, were the entire mainstream media, the well heeled elite, the so called educated classes, and the Labour party who think they know whats good for working people without asking them.

286  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 03, 2018, 08:48:27 PM
http://markets.businessinsider.com/currencies/news/cryptocurrency-prices-today-april-3-bitcoin-ethereum-ripple-litecoin-2018-4-1020368886

This is (correction: was) JP Morgan's Blockchain Chief Executive.

Try not to laugh.

This waifish millennial couldn't "blockchain" her way out of a paper bag.

No wonder JP Morgan is going nowhere with crypto and blockchain.

Thanks for that made me smile!
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How these dipsticks get jobs evades me totally.

Looking forward to seeing Amber Baldet of JP Morgan crypto fame fail miserably in her new venture.
287  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 14, 2018, 01:14:49 PM
Is there anyone else, who comes here just to see the hardcore bitcoiners being mad at the world for not buying their virtual units? Am I the only one? Is there something wrong with me that I enjoy observing entitled people not getting what they want? So many self-aware questions rise in this place.

No you are pretty much one of the very few poisonous imbeciles with poisonous trolling posts around who feels the need to piss on other people's parades.
Congratulations.

Yes I would say there is something very wrong with you.

Hopefully you will GTFO.

Maybe you can troll a banking interest forum where people are having orgasms at making 2% per year profit on their savings instead.

Actually, almost all of the fucktard bearshills come into this thread and act like they have some kind of meaningful and unique insightful perspective into bitcoin price dynamics..

but they are proven to be retards, over and over and over..  For some reasons (I wonder why?) they want to trick you out of your bitcoins.

After they fuck up then they kind of disappear when they do not have anything to latch onto in their pie in the sky bitcoin death fantasies.


Surely this Jacques_Bittard troll shit shill job would have been with Tera beara calling the end of bitcoin (and further and more painful price corrections) during the March 2017 down to $890 - and that surely would not have been a good time to sell any decent amount of your bitcoins.

You are using a lot of profanity. You were a lot softer a couple of years ago. Before your avatar picture I actually thought that you are a girl and thought on hitting on you. So, what happened in the meantime? Hit puberty and testosterone is finally doing it's thing or something?

I have never called the time for the end of bitcoin. Bitcoin will end when the governments will finally crack down on exchanges creating funny-money to pump bitcoin. As long as people ignore things like goxdollars or tether,  then there is no height high enough. One thing is certain though - the governments will crack down on fake money exchanges and greater fools will also run out eventually. Then I'd like to see the bitcoin fanatics pay for the 7billion dollar revenue to the miners, just to sustain the network. So, I have no idea when will bitcoin crash, but I know that it will crash, and it will do it with a lot of tears from people who mostly deserve whats coming.

your posts remind me a lot of a guy called falling who hung round here on the way down from $500 to $160 are you he?
288  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2018, 08:46:22 PM
https://blogs.imf.org/2018/03/13/addressing-the-dark-side-of-the-crypto-world/

2018 is going to be another long slog with these lizards. The bloody G20 doesn't finish till December 1st.

Thanks for the link.

written by Christine Lagarde a paragon of virtue.
convicted of negligence - the French tax payer forked our over $306 million to settle a case brought by Bernard Tapie for alleged fraud by the French Bank Credit Lyonnais over its sale of Tapie's stake in Addidas. Lagarde did not appeal the award given to polititian Bernard Tapie (no one seems to know why?)
Her punishment - none. No fine, no jail time, no criminal record.

Her predecessor in IMF Strauss-Khan resigned over sexual assault charges again no conviction.

And Strauss- Khan's predecessor Rodrigo Rato faced trial for corruption charges he got 4years 6 months jail time.

A nice bunch of guys altogether and instead of putting their own house in order they are worried about crypto being used for money laundering, tax evasion, etc. Hell you dont need crypto to do any of that good old fashioned fiat will do nicely.
289  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2018, 12:58:02 PM
I really thought we can win vs jews from WS - no way.

It's easy to tell what you should be buying.  All you really need to know is, ALL media is Jewish media.  Do you think Harry Dent actually buys all these ads?  HELL NO.  He's a shabbos goyim.  The Comex is forwarding all their contracts to London recently - that's a TECHNICAL DEFAULT.  And how could it not have happened when it's the only asset on earth not in a bubble?  The Jews want to keep people from buying physical silver or gold at all costs:



As you are someone seriously into metals you gave me some sound advice back in 2015 when I was about to buy silver at $16.
You said to wait as it had a couple $ to go, I managed to buy at $14.30 not quite the bottom but near enough.
I am in EU now where buying silver attracts 20% VAT so I am about to buy some gold which is not taxed.
In your opinion is this month a good time to buy also is it better to buy in many smaller units or to go for the cheaper option of one or two large units.
Many thanks.

The commercial shorts nearly always win (aka the ESF), and since they are high right now, it signals they will drop the price a little.  But like I was saying about this FISA thing, the release of this seems VERY orchestrated and might be used as a scapegoat for some type of economic implosion as I was talking about here:

http://steemit.com/news/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-35-the-fisa-memo-is-likely-the-scapegoat-to-blow-up-the-economy

One of the goals of these people in entities like the ESF is to "disconnect cause and effect", which is why they made sure to implode gold during the 2008 crash when it obviously shouldn't have.  Some claim people had to liquidate their ETF & Comex contracts to cover other investments, but that's complete bullshit why the price went where it did.  Anyway, if my FISA theory is correct, they will probably attempt to do the exact same thing they did during 2008, then metals skyrocket after the dip IF they manage to force it down.  Maybe it wont dip at all this time before going up, who knows.  Supply seems too tight for them to force it low to me, unlike in 2008.  It's always possible it could be the one time where the ESF shorts get screwed and it skyrockets

If nothing comes out of this FISA stuff, that $900 platinum bottom is a REALLY REALLY hard floor, so they will have an enormously hard time screwing with metals too much.  And getting silver below $16 for any extended period of time is also too hard for them.  They could drop gold to as low as $1050 or so, but that's about it.  The downside potential on all this stuff is really small without a deflationary event that would wipe out every bank in America anyway.

Thankyou for you much valued answer to my post.
290  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2018, 12:40:59 PM
I really thought we can win vs jews from WS - no way.

It's easy to tell what you should be buying.  All you really need to know is, ALL media is Jewish media.  Do you think Harry Dent actually buys all these ads?  HELL NO.  He's a shabbos goyim.  The Comex is forwarding all their contracts to London recently - that's a TECHNICAL DEFAULT.  And how could it not have happened when it's the only asset on earth not in a bubble?  The Jews want to keep people from buying physical silver or gold at all costs:



As you are someone seriously into metals you gave me some sound advice back in 2015 when I was about to buy silver at $16.
You said to wait as it had a couple $ to go, I managed to buy at $14.30 not quite the bottom but near enough.
I am in EU now where buying silver attracts 20% VAT so I am about to buy some gold which is not taxed.
In your opinion is this month a good time to buy also is it better to buy in many smaller units or to go for the cheaper option of one or two large units.
Many thanks.
My apologies Roach it was Shroomskit who gave the advice on silver that the 4th quarter of 2015 would be the buy point.
But I would appreciate any input from you.

 
291  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2018, 12:22:42 PM
I really thought we can win vs jews from WS - no way.

It's easy to tell what you should be buying.  All you really need to know is, ALL media is Jewish media.  Do you think Harry Dent actually buys all these ads?  HELL NO.  He's a shabbos goyim.  The Comex is forwarding all their contracts to London recently - that's a TECHNICAL DEFAULT.  And how could it not have happened when it's the only asset on earth not in a bubble?  The Jews want to keep people from buying physical silver or gold at all costs:



As you are someone seriously into metals you gave me some sound advice back in 2015 when I was about to buy silver at $16.
You said to wait as it had a couple $ to go, I managed to buy at $14.30 not quite the bottom but near enough.
I am in EU now where buying silver attracts 20% VAT so I am about to buy some gold which is not taxed.
In your opinion is this month a good time to buy also is it better to buy in many smaller units or to go for the cheaper option of one or two large units.
Many thanks.

 
292  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 12:05:20 AM
I tend to agree with you.

Having paid for this advice I am reluctant to pay again unless it was for someone or a firm specialising in crypto.
Anyone know of such a person / firm.

Whoever you went to see, I've never, ever heard any 'advice' along those lines. Sounds like total bilge to me. The problem with the UK is that the HMRC have basically published a few paragraphs a few years ago and now leave it to everyone else to interpret them.

This geezer - https://www.reddit.com/user/krissaroth  I think is an accountant and has written quite a bit in r/bitcoinuk. Maybe it's worth PMing him. If he himself doesn't do crypto he might know someone who does.

Lots of other threads about it in there too.

Thank you for the advice, I'll do a bit more research.

293  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 11:45:07 PM

Just had a meeting with my accountant today.
If your sales exceed 4 times CGT allowance ie 4X £11,100 £44,400 ye 2016 then even if your gain is under the annual allowance and no CGT is payable you still have to submit every single transaction. FFS.

Exceptions are sales reinvested same day and sales bought back up to 30 days later.
The transactions must be matched up, the paperwork involved is the stuff of nightmares.

As you say if trading is your business it's treated as income and is subject to income tax top tax rate 40% plus NI at 9% then 2% above £45k.

Yet if BTC collapsed and you wanted to offset the losses against your other capital gains, HMRC would suddenly declare BTC trading as a highly risky enterprise like gambling where no taxes are payable on wins or reliefs on losses.



I intend to only submit transactions to and from Fiat currency.

And this '4x allowance' thing?  Not in any tax rule I have seen.

Get a second opinion, there is no real guidance yet that is this specific on crypto from HMRC.

Accountants are assuming things, but they MAY not be right.

Get yours to show you HMRC guidance specifying what you say above.  A capital gain under the limit is not reportable AFAIAC and if it is over it, it is still simply a capital gain and chargeable at 20%.

You invested X, you sold Y - you pay the difference, I reckon.  And capital gains are only taxable when cashed in IMHO. 

I am not an accountant - but I asked three, and they all gave varying advice, except that they all said you need to say what you orginally paid for the BTC you are now selling.  I realise that ain't easy - but it is possible to do most if you have exchange history.  For Gox, you cannot - but neither can they prove what you spent unless your bank statements show it.

I tend to agree with you.

Having paid for this advice I am reluctant to pay again unless it was for someone or a firm specialising in crypto.
Anyone know of such a person / firm.

It seems that HMRC can treat crypto just like any other currency. Any sales transaction is treated as a taxable event, whether you transfer your fiat to your bank account or just leave it on the exchange.

Fortunately last year I was under the limit and so it does not have to be declared on return.
A nightmare avoided as I have no chance of submitting all the transactions made as my Armory wallet was lost when hard drive failed. Although coins are recovered the transactions, purchases goods etc were not. Just as well!

This tax year I will be hit with CGT however I have mostly hodled during this bull run so few transactions and fairly straight.

I just posted this as many small timers will be finding themselves in this position for the first time and should give it some thought in the coming months.

I think Jimbo Toronto has the right idea by buying at ATM even if paying % over odds. And keeping dealings private.


294  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 10:39:15 PM

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Buying and selling dash is not a taxable event for you? How is that?

Well I understood you pay captial gains when there is a fiat gain in value at the time when you dispose it, ie sell it for fiat. I'm in the UK. I hope I got that right. If I have to proof every single trade between Dash and Bitcoin or whatever other crypto I don't know how on earth I could even start to do that  Huh Some exchanges I have used no longer even exist.



I sympathise, in UK too. 

Since HMRC advice is so sketchy (it goes back to a vague 2014 reference effectively saying 'we will treat it all on a case-by-case basis') we are in the dark.

I only cash out in BTC and only (originally) went in via BTC so, I am asking my accountant to simply list all fiat 'in' events and fiat 'out' events and hoping it will be just CGT.  But be aware they can see it as 'badge of trade' and charge as though it was income if they think you're a trader.

I am hoping if I cough up CGT and list only Bitcoin bought and sold and just pay up, they will accept it.

If not, I will find others here in the same position and suggest we club together to get a QC to fight HMRC - as paying 45% income tax will be too much to let pass.

I know you and I have different 'cryptos of choice' but we may end up in the same expensive boat, under the same threat of a massive tax bill.

Odds on they will just take the CGT, but if not...  Let's consider a fight - I think we can probably both afford to chip in for a legal case with others, which they won't have the staff or competence to want to bother with.

Sometimes Dashheads and Moneroans can perhaps find common cause ;-)


I was reading about an ultrapreneur tax that is flat 10%, you may need to pass a few ticks and go through some hoops in the year before to meet the conditions.

That, I think - is if you sell your business off completely, that is to protect people retiring who have one business and want to cash out (after paying tax on the profits along the way).

If you trade cypto 'as a business' you will pay tax up to 45% on profits made.  Then you 'could' sell the business and get 'entrepeneur's relief'

So unless you have found a way my accountant and I have not - I don't think it's possible.  I wish!

Just had a meeting with my accountant today.
If your sales exceed 4 times CGT allowance ie 4X £11,100 £44,400 ye 2016 then even if your gain is under the annual allowance and no CGT is payable you still have to submit every single transaction. FFS.

Exceptions are sales reinvested same day and sales bought back up to 30 days later.
The transactions must be matched up, the paperwork involved is the stuff of nightmares.

As you say if trading is your business it's treated as income and is subject to income tax top tax rate 40% plus NI at 9% then 2% above £45k.

Yet if BTC collapsed and you wanted to offset the losses against your other capital gains, HMRC would suddenly declare BTC trading as a highly risky enterprise like gambling where no taxes are payable on wins or reliefs on losses.




295  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2017, 12:38:08 PM

Thanks for that I used both 8.8.8.8 and 4.4.4.4 and Ive got Stamp back up just in time to find all my buy orders from 792 to 831 filled. Shit I could have done better had I been able to log in. Do you think this was deliberate?
Yes. PBOC waited for Bitstamp to be unavailable.
Smiley
296  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2017, 12:29:55 PM
ive been logged into bitstamp since 1 hour in uk
no problems with trading

No problem with any other sites - but still can't get into Stamp - have fiat there and want to get in...!

Bitstamp said if you change your DNS server to Google ( 8.8.8.8 ), it will work as a temporary solution. Have you tried that?

Thanks for that I used both 8.8.8.8 and 4.4.4.4 and Ive got Stamp back up just in time to find all my buy orders from 792 to 831 filled. Shit I could have done better had I been able to log in. Do you think this was deliberate?
297  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 06, 2017, 11:14:30 AM
23-year history? Roll Eyes




Best laugh I had all year!!! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

23 years... =))))) ... LuLz! Cheesy Cheesy

The quality of journalism in the once revered Times newspaper, is now as poor as any other trashy mainstream rag.
"Bitcoins 23% drop biggest in its 23 year history" indeed.
Bitcoin has experienced far more violent price movements in its 8 year history. For instance in a 24 hour period 6 - 7th Dec 2013 fell price on Stamp fell from roughly 1020 to 550 which is 185%.
Or from 10th to 11th April 2013 price fell from $260 to under $60 around $430% those were the days.
Bitcoin is a model of stability now in comparison.
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