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2801  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Pushpool - Tech Support on: June 02, 2011, 11:13:49 PM
Hello,

may be it's stupid question: but what about the fees?
will the amount of the reciever be decreased or does to pool pay it?
and how can I calculate the fees for a certain amount?

thank you very much

regards, redshark1802

I may or may not understand your question but

Fees are only incurred when sending bitcoins and they are Only not incurred when
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./bitcoind -paytxfee=0
if you don't use the above command when starting bitcoind the server pays for the Tx/Transction fee of the default of 0.01 or 1 bitcent.

I hope that was what you were asking, If not will figure it out

Hello,

that was exactly what I asked, thank you and sorry for my bad english :/.
I tried setting it to txfee=0, but after I sent the command I got following transaction details:

 {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "18k6PoJgcUAqf5WSNyUcMdM4yFnCMtD7ok",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.01000000,
        "fee" : -0.01000000,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "c5644552cf1be96040d6a736ca6fa35c2e2a75f703527398da7621083b3f3b9b",
        "time" : 1307049760
    }

Does this mean, as a pool admin you have to pay the transaction fees?
With that in mind, whats the purpose fo running a fee free pool?

Additional, is there any option to compute the transaction fees before the actual transaction?

regards, redshark1802


Me and you are on the same boat, I want my front-end software to pushpool to have users be able to include a transaction fee or not when cashing out, Unfortunately i can't find such a solution, espically when you are reporting that even seting the tx fee to zero dosen't effect anything. I was told on the IRC chat that the transaction fee is hard-coded into the compiled version of bitcoind so you might have to look through the code and set it to zero your self.
2802  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: cooperative mining? mining pool? on: June 02, 2011, 09:04:47 PM
You can find a collection of mining pools with all there pros and cons over at http://mining.bitcoin.cz(Big, 2% Fee), http://simplecoin.us(Small but big payout), http://deepbit.net, http://mp2.fleshvirus.com(Currently Beta, 0% Fees), http://btcguild.com/(0% Fees).
2803  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Pushpool - Tech Support on: June 02, 2011, 08:59:39 PM
Hello,

may be it's stupid question: but what about the fees?
will the amount of the reciever be decreased or does to pool pay it?
and how can I calculate the fees for a certain amount?

thank you very much

regards, redshark1802

I may or may not understand your question but

Fees are only incurred when sending bitcoins and they are Only not incurred when
Quote
./bitcoind -paytxfee=0
if you don't use the above command when starting bitcoind the server pays for the Tx/Transction fee of the default of 0.01 or 1 bitcent.

I hope that was what you were asking, If not will figure it out
2804  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Pre-Beta] Mining Pool #2 | Front End to pushpool on: June 02, 2011, 07:49:35 PM
I've got it to the stage where I can create an account but email validation doesn't work (no email sent).

What are the requirements for email validation to work?

In addition to this, looks like login.php is trying to connect to the mysql database without a username and password - line 41.  There's no connectDb function, unlike in register.php which works fine.  Can you have a look at this?
For a fix until v2 go into login.php and change connecDb() to connecToDb();
2805  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Beta] myB.TC short names for Bitcoin on: June 02, 2011, 07:43:48 PM
This site is a great idea, I claim Xenland Smiley
2806  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Pre-Beta] Mining Pool #2 | Front End to pushpool on: June 02, 2011, 07:39:37 PM
Yes for some reason when I tar.ball'd it, I accidentally included the dev files at the time so those features were removed for testing purposes. Passwords are not hashed, in version one, nor was send email valid, theres a couple of other things too. Check out my first post I wrote up a "Bug list in version 1" they are all crossed out becuase that means i fixed them in version 2 which should be released in two or three days. Also I'm sure alot of you though it was annoying to change the $dir folder in every page, so I found a reliable code to auto-magically find it for you so all new installs should only need to change the requiredFunctions.php and that will be it Smiley

On a side note what kind of stats would you like included?
2807  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin Desktop Wallpaper Designs And Other Graphics on: June 02, 2011, 06:00:32 AM
Not sure if you noticed but your high resolution wallpaper can be found included with the source code of Mining Pool #2: http://mp2.fleshvirus.com
2808  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: pushpool - Tech Support on: June 02, 2011, 02:22:49 AM
thankx xf2_org, I figured such
Anybody else notice the high-load for MySql requests? do we really need that many, I have pushpoold connected though MySql to another server and that server is slowing down major.

On another note, what is your experience on the server load pushpoold and bitcoind have on your server?
With out anything running I get about 124MB used out of 512MB
once I start pushpoold & bitcoind i get about 224-350mb range; (I don't run mysql or apache2 on this server so those arn't the culprit)

I wonder how much big of a server they need to run slush or deepbit or even chuck-pool.....
2809  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: pushpool - Tech Support on: June 02, 2011, 01:11:38 AM
Thanks mates! I pinpointed to problem was that pushpool didn't have proper permissions to the /tmp folder which I guess was not letting it do something with what ever the tmp folder is for.
None the less, I did the following under root

I'm not quite sure of the dangers of letting the pushpool running rampant on the /tmp folder so any confirms would be awesome on if this is actually safe to do
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sudo chown -R pushpool:pushpool /tmp
2810  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 400mhps gaming rig interested in joining a pool, please suggest. on: June 02, 2011, 12:25:46 AM
You can help www.simplecoin.us with their efforts. Their you it will take about a week or two to get a payout but you will be working in a tiny pool with about the same megahashes so pay out will be pretty big(maybe around the 20-30BTC range).
2811  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: pushpool - open source pool software on: June 02, 2011, 12:22:03 AM
Could anyone tell how to configure pushpool long-polling with poclbm miner?
Looks like it doesn't work. Miner reports "long poll exception" and "invalid or stale" shares from time to time.
I have "longpoll.disable" : false in pushpool config.
From my understanding you'd need to active blkmon so it monitors new blocks.
It should then send SIGUSR1 to the pushpoold to notify it

Dude, Is that what that does? I could never get it started.... but Im having a bit of an issue geting pushpoold started on my VPS it reports that its listening on 127.0.0.1 but it shuts down immediately right after it reports this any solutions?
2812  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: pushpool - Tech Support on: June 01, 2011, 11:44:17 PM
Thanks mates, I've attempted both methods no luck, they both report that no process is running, this is on my VPS server. Its like pushpoold dosn't want to listen or somthing, even those it reports with "-E -F", that it is listening on

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[1306972353.648004] Listening on host :: port 8342
[1306972353.648205] Listening on host :: port 8341
[1306972353.648310] Listening on host :: port 8344
[1306972353.648407] Listening on host 127.0.0.1 port 8338

Did everyone go with the default IP addreses for the RPC HTTP Json protocal? or did you set  your external IP. first time installing this on a VPS
2813  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Pre-Beta] Mining Pool #2 | Front End to pushpool on: June 01, 2011, 01:49:10 PM
Many thanks to everyone in this thread for inspiration, You guys are going to like the fun new features Smiley

Check out regularly updated previews over @: mp2.fleshvirus.com

Any suggestions on securing url?string=query data for connecting to remote bitcoind app[?
2814  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: pushpool - Tech Support on: June 01, 2011, 12:15:00 PM
Anyone having problems where pushpool looks like it starts up but when you try to killall pushpoold it returns that there is no process running?
2815  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: pushpool - open source pool software on: June 01, 2011, 09:50:06 AM
Well in my experience I'm using poclbm and i rarely get invalid and i think i got long pool exception
What exactly rarely mean?  Smiley
I have about 4% of stale shares in my pushpool DB.
btw, how many MH/s do you have on your pushpool instance?

Rarly as in probubly around 1 in 100 shares, 4% dosent sound bad or alarming but maybe your packets are being dropped by a firewall. I get about the same MH/s as i do with other pools which is 85-90 range.
2816  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: pushpool - open source pool software on: June 01, 2011, 07:05:42 AM
Could anyone tell how to configure pushpool long-polling with poclbm miner?
Looks like it doesn't work. Miner reports "long poll exception" and "invalid or stale" shares from time to time.
I have "longpoll.disable" : false in pushpool config.

Well in my experience I'm using poclbm and i rarely get invalid and i think i got long pool exception
2817  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin PHP Class - Facilitating Bitcoin Integration without Third Parties on: June 01, 2011, 06:48:58 AM
I beg your pardon, I am not familiar with their efforts.

Though, after some quick reading it looks like m0Ray is limited to account management instead of full API access and that Mike's is a bit outdated of the new calls that have been integrated into BitcoinD.


I agree there is some functionality that should be integrated that i dont see in other software
2818  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: how do miners fill merkle_root field when mining? on: June 01, 2011, 06:46:54 AM
Miners do not fill in merkle_root.  Miners receive a fully initialized 80-byte block header, and have permission to change a few fields in that block header (nonce, ntime) before resubmitting.



And the client send the head to miners? how do the client fill the merkle_root?



I think that last miners set the header of the merkle root although the current miner CAN set the new one IF the block is solved. As to what the header data contains i believe is the "last block" so its like a chain that it follows backwards which is used for linking up the longest chain.

The following is just a thoery but i think that the chain is used in this manner to keep people from injecting counter fit bitcoins becuase all the miners as well of the clients all check for the money/balance in the previous block transactions and blancs
2819  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin and minimum wage on: June 01, 2011, 04:01:33 AM
Why doesn't bob just charge a fee for insurance that he wont get charged for not paying the minimum wage solves the problem and he can right it on the books legally! Cheesy
2820  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Pre-Beta] Mining Pool #2 | Front End to pushpool on: June 01, 2011, 03:35:03 AM
Thanks for the support guys esspecially the security issue that was pointed out byredditorrex, I got more features coming soon such as the colour of the header will reflect if the bitcoind server is off-line or online or something of the like.

Quote from: simplecoin
1st post, longtime lurker

So, I decided to give this codebase a shot since my hand-crafted one was taking forever to write and mine wasn't much further along.

I've only spent the morning working with it, but it wasn't too hard to massage into my needs. My previous stats reporting won't work with this base, but I'm sure I'll find a way to incorporate it along with my other tweaks.

The site is http://simplecoin.us if you'd like to see it in action. The pool is currently going (0% fee proportional during development) if you'd like to toss any miners at it.

Keep in mind it's in its early stages, even I don't have all my miners hitting it yet.
What up simplecoin you stalker, you.
Nice use of style sheets, Didn't expect it to be used so soon. Keep us posted about your experiences with the software, and of course suggestions or comments. I just signed up for a github account so if you find any additions you can update the code there when I post up the github link.


So far, it handles most of what I need in a framework. The only real problem was broken references (could be a platform/install difference) and I can't get the stats page to do anything, nor find a proper reference for what it expects in the include. I took most of the css and other hacks directly from my own platform. I'd be happy to share the changes to further the project.

Major changes/additions:
shares table: timecode for time field, update to current on create
shares_history table: timecode time field updated in cron script on xfer.
current hashrate: custom class that compares shares/shares_history count over last 10 min.
mtgox integration: mtgox php api class.
added menu for index.php.
changes a few terms.

Awesome, I've noted the time stamp problems, hash rate display, and especially MtGox integration sounds like a great idea!
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