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Hmm.... Maybe me but I only have access to the good old PD3.
Don't misunderstand me, PD3 is great and all you know, but I was waiting for a new site so I'm a bit disapointed ^^
Maybe I missed something?
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Sorry I didn't understand. You want England to leave the UK? So to keep only England, without Scotland, Wales or Norther Ireland?
But... What would be the point? It's like asking if a country should divide itself into 4 different parts, why doing so?
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I'm not even going to talk about the fact that I disagree with you on the opening or closing of borders. I'm just going to explain you that Europe gots 1700km of borders. You want to keep them? Fine. So first you need some kind of wall or fence. Let's say it costs nothing to build and maintain (it'll cost a hella lot of money but let's just forget it). You need something like a guard for every 100m on average, otherwise it's useless. makes 17 000 soldiers You need in fact 3 soldiers for each 100m because they work only 8h a day so it's more 51 000 soldiers For every 3 soldiers you also need on average at least one person in the backline in charge of something, that might go from cleaning the camp to radio coordination. So 51 000 soldiers plus 15 000 suport persons. Each of them has to be paid 1 500€ a month at least when they're in activity. That's 100M€ a month. 1billion every year. Only in salaries, I'm not talking about any kind of equipment, wall construction or anything. Seems like a good idea to you? |
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Assuming British politicians don't try to stab us in the back again, they will because it was a major issue that the referendum was about.
As far as I saw, seems like Britain government wants to keep freedom of move for individuals. And I've got to say that even if I'm 100% for EU and freedom of movement, it's really incredible to see the government doing something like this! Brexit was clearly about controling the borders again, refusing to do so is just ignoring the voice of the people. Even people like me that were for remain should be angry at the government if they don't close the borders  |
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nothing yet still waiting for launch
Same here now entered the fourth day of delay from the planned schedule do not know what the problem but it seems that the problem is really serious causing the developer was unable to get it soon. actually what awaited? only new themes then why PD place an ads in this forum just for new themes I can not understand the purpose PD  What I can't understand is the lack of communication of PD... They have days of delays on their own schedule and they don't even communicate here constantly? It's hard to consider this as professional... |
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Cameron is saying that he will keep the freedom of movement for European citizens, even after the Brexit. Then what is the use in UK seceding from the EU? The Romanians and Poles will continue to pour in to the UK, and they will suck the coffers dry.
We should refuse this. It's incredible that UK tries to take whatever it wants from EU and refuse the global regulations. We shouldn't allow something like this, it's really kneeling down to keep UK in something EU-like >< They should have only two choice, accept the duties and advantages of EU or refuse them. That's all folks :/ |
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Popcorn1: to think that the real problem is population and or immigration is not only stupid, it's also the proof of your complete blindness towards the real problem of the West.
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UK import 17 Billions more than it export because of the laws of germanic EU. Long term, the loser will be Germany.
Please explain us how EU regulations make you buy Apple and BMW. ... |
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What's the matter with them preferring shariah? Did m0gliE and DooMAD just seriously suggest that it's completely acceptable to support a form of religious law that actively wants a huge number of people dead for who they are, what they were born as and what they choose to believe in and try to make fun of me for saying it's not acceptable? There really is no hope for people like you if that's what you genuinely think, free expression does not give you the right to harm others you fucking deranged lunatics and that's exactly what supporting Sharia Law means.You're the dumb archaic old fag here. Supporting sharia law doesn't mean that at all. Supporting sharia law is just supporting a different law system and as long as you conform to the law system chosen by the majority I don't care about what you prefer. Supporting Sharia law is not so different from supporting death penalty you dumbass. Moreover, if a more and more important part of your population is supporting as archaic and stupid as Sharia law, you might question your education system especially as you're telling most pro Sharia are young muslims. |
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The British agriculture is mostly dead. The sector employs just around 1.5% of the British workforce, and this proportion has been going down for the past many years. The agricultural production is on the decline, as GM products from the US are flooding the local markets. Still... the Brexit referendum will have no effect on trade with the US.
Actually, according to the New York Times, last month Britain exported the biggest tonnage of wheat to the USA in twenty years - all thanks to the pound falling as the Leave side moved ahead in the polls. That should improve even more this month. I personally know of a business that exports healthcare software to the Caribbean that is over the moon at the pound falling - the Caribbean dollar is pegged to the USD and when they buy British stuff it converts back to 8% more sterling. If your costs are in sterling but earnings are in dollars or anything pegged to dollars, this is a windfall. I'll try to explain to you simply: Low pound is good for export, bad for import. Problem: UK import 17 Billions more than it export. Conclusion: Low pounds is extremely bad for UK. |
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the fact that they even prefer Sharia law should really fucking concern you, you really are brainwashed if you think that sort of thing is okay and frankly, if it was someone White or Christian who expressed these sort of views you would be calling for their lynching. Uh oh, here come the thought police, here to tell us what we can and can't think or believe. If they don't act on it, I honestly couldn't give a toss. If they do act on it, there aren't enough willing people to achieve such a change in legislation, so I still don't give a toss. It's a complete non-issue. Mountains made from the tiniest of molehills by hysterical loons who are looking for any excuse to spread fear to support their cause. Thanks for pointing this out. It's a complete nonsense to get concerned by what people THINK. THey got the right to prefer Shariah. What they musn't do is act against the population in order to empower those ideas. But that's more like what we do... |
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Zebedee23, you're completely right, but people like who you're arguing with think that screaming racism and xenophobia negates anything you have to say. So roughly a third of Muslims would prefer Sharia Law, but:
a) that doesn't mean they're actively campaigning for Sharia Law, it was just an expression of preference Just stop DooMAD, the fact that they even prefer Sharia law should really fucking concern you, you really are brainwashed if you think that sort of thing is okay and frankly, if it was someone White or Christian who expressed these sort of views you would be calling for their lynching. Oh and for fucks sake learn to use quoting properly instead of just lazily spamming to cover up that you don't have anything useful to say. I don't understand why people like you are so concerned about others preference. .. What's the matter with them preferring shariah? As long as they obey current law they have the right to support whatever they want no? Oo |
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Are british people democrats?
A 96% majority in Gibraltar to remain in the EU isn't something which can be ignored. I can't think of a similar majority in any other election or referendum. Spain wants to make it like Andorra, but I guess Gibraltar should become independent.
An independent Gibraltar? It is not going to happen. Gibraltar is a small rock, and the population and surface area is not large anough to exist as a sovereign nation. And now they have two choices. Either to remain as a part of the United Kingdom, or to merge with Spain. Now, why the hell on earth they would merge with Spain? Especially when Spain is inching closer to an economic meltdown? To stay in the EU and keep the flow of exchanges that is their only source of revenue maybe? |
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Oh, "not that simple"? Well your first BS argument seemed pretty simple though. "Leaving EU will drop gas price"  First: yeah and so what? Second: you're talking about tax burden of UK, which is the ONLY argument of leavers. If you can't understand that freedom of trade and European cooperation on research and education is worth the 200 pounds per capita that it costs, you don't deserve it. Do you think that the only negative aspect of the European Union membership was the £200 per capita cost? No. The direct EU funding from UK is the least of the worries. There are more serious issues. The wages for blue collar jobs in the United Kingdom has dropped steadily for the past decade or so, due to the influx of Poles and Lithuanians. Also, house prices and rentals have soared in most of the cities, resulting in a large part of the native British unable to afford simple housing. Which could be resolved much more easily with a real Work Law project. Wouldn't it be easier and better for everyone to ask for a decent rising minimum wage? The drop of wages for blue collar has nothing to do with the EU! It's only the result of the horrible policies of England concerning "freedom market" and their very American obsession of deregulation. Of course Poles and Lithuanians become a problem once you destroyed the work contract and allowed companies to sign a working contract saying "ok I don't know if I'll have work for you but you don't have the right to work anywhere else and I'll pay you only the hours worked. Maybe it will be 60 maybe 0, who knows?" But as any kind of social work or regulation is seen as evil you've got a true free market because you're too dumb to remember what happened to the peasants in USA. Read the grapes of wrath of Steinbeck, maybe you'll see where the real problem is! |
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Yes, it seems a good idea and a good compromise.
I have only one doubt: how do the first 1/2 months? I can not anticipate everything.
Maybe you can collect the money and pay the tipsters, and I give to all the tips for the following month.
Doing it this way I can not scam you because I will never have the money! Easy and transparent.
Yeah not a bad idea. I'm in your group  |
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In the long term, the prices will go down. The pre-tax price of gasoline in the UK is around £0.324 per litre. After taxes, it rises to £1.08. This means that around 70% of the price is made up of taxes, a significant part of them due to the European Union. Once the EU membership is cancelled, the tax burden will be reduced and the prices will go down.
Totally false. This is the kind of BS that makes people actually believe leaving EU is good... The minimum taxation of oil is fixed by EU, mainly in order to reduce its consumption. But the UK and ONLY the UK keeps the money from this taxation. And we can't really say government can afford reducing its incomes when you see its commercial or financial balance... Not that simple. First, the EU has kept the minimum tax at extremely high levels. That is why gasoline in the UK costs almost three times as much of that in the United States. And secondly, although the UK keeps the tax money, they need to donate tens of billions of UKP every year to the European Union. Another lie. We have very high national oil taxes in germany but still are like 20-30 cents cheaper the in the UK. Go east europe and you have even more cheap. Here in germany people say liers have short legs. Bryant must be a dwarf for sure. Yeah but everyone knows that Germoney controls EU! You're just part of a conspiracy, nothing to do with the fact that oil taxation is an important revenu for UK government and that it's not the fault of EU xD |
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Guys, believe me, I think all of you are right, I also would have the same doubts! However, the point is that I'm looking for partners because I can not afford to buy all the tipsters alone, but at the same time, the key of the project is to have so many tipster to diversify risk. This is the record of the tips from 03/01/2015 http://dropcanvas.com/oq1ps (pdf) This is the profit chart: blue with the original odds, in orange with odds reduced of 0.15 (this is a simulation of the possible delays or odds changes).  Trust me, I'm an Italian guy ... hmmm, no this is not actually a good point! However, the start-up period is the most critical, you have doubts but I can not start without you! If it is ok for you that you have written, we are already in 8, that means plus or minus € 30 euro per head. Maybe, for the first 1 or 2 month, we can do a lean startup selecting 3 tipster and not 4. I would have a proposal for you. I'm all in for this idea, I like the concept of sharing the tips. What would you say that a third party with an old account (like me  ) makes the escrow? He keeps the monthly pay, you pay the tipsters, the month passes, you give the tips and at the end of the month if you gave the tips the escrow sends you the money. I propose myself simply because I'm part of the Betcoin sig campaign. If I've got negative feedback because I scammed you I'm out so I lose the account and the campaign... Which brings me around 100€ a month, so not really worth it to scam for 250€ Anyway, I'd say escrow can be a good compromise, would you accept such solution? |
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Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.
Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations. China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely. America and Canada are part of the NAFTA so they're not on your list. CHina is in the ASEAN so not on your list neither. Well, you still have Russia that's right. Wanna compare Russia and UK? Oh and just for your culture, Russia is actively negotiating for a free trade organization with its neighboors. Seems like the whole world is trying to do exactly the opposite of what UK just done... The point is these countries are trading with places like Europe without the need for these organisations, you also have Norway and Sweden who are definitely independent of the EU and have been trading absolutely fine, all people like you're doing is scaremongering and it pisses me off. Sweden is a member of the EU... You probaly are talking of norway and switzerland. And the most important they just dont trade freely with anyone. They all are part of trade agreements. Without bi/multilateral trade agreements you trade under the law of the WTO. There are always rules and laws you have to abide by. They arent in the EU but in the EEA. They pay money to the EU, are part of the Schengen treaty and had to implement pretty much all EU laws just with the "tiny" difference that they have no political decision power in the EU. MUCH GOOD, VERY SMART! But... But... Independance and all... Sovereignty? Britania rules? No?  |
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In the long term, the prices will go down. The pre-tax price of gasoline in the UK is around £0.324 per litre. After taxes, it rises to £1.08. This means that around 70% of the price is made up of taxes, a significant part of them due to the European Union. Once the EU membership is cancelled, the tax burden will be reduced and the prices will go down.
Totally false. This is the kind of BS that makes people actually believe leaving EU is good... The minimum taxation of oil is fixed by EU, mainly in order to reduce its consumption. But the UK and ONLY the UK keeps the money from this taxation. And we can't really say government can afford reducing its incomes when you see its commercial or financial balance... Not that simple. First, the EU has kept the minimum tax at extremely high levels. That is why gasoline in the UK costs almost three times as much of that in the United States. And secondly, although the UK keeps the tax money, they need to donate tens of billions of UKP every year to the European Union. Oh, "not that simple"? Well your first BS argument seemed pretty simple though. "Leaving EU will drop gas price" First: yeah and so what? Second: you're talking about tax burden of UK, which is the ONLY argument of leavers. If you can't understand that freedom of trade and European cooperation on research and education is worth the 200 pounds per capita that it costs, you don't deserve it. |
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People like Fortify and a lot of die-hard remain supporters are in total fucking denial that somebody dared to disagree with them, they simply can't understand why people would want independence and that things might actually go well for the UK, I do think it's too early to tell yet, but just the fact that housing prices are finally dropping means we are at least denting things like the banking cartel which have held back this country for decades.
One simple argument: Leaving the EU can't do any good to a country importing 17billions of pounds more than it exports. If you can't understand that, Rest In Peace. |
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