Dakle, biti će sve teže postići anonimnost i izbjeći kyc. Zapravo je to i očekivano jer vlade i porezne službe su očito shvatile da već veliki broj ljudi kupuje i prodaje kriptovalute anonimno preko kripto mjenjačnica i da se tu već radi o velikom novcu na koji se ne plaća nikakav porez. S jedne strane ne žele pojednostaviti FIFO i prijavu kripto poreza a s druge strane postrožit će rad kripto mjenjačnica i pokušati sve da stave svoju šapu na kripto sredstva koja se svaki dan vrte preko kripto mjenjačnica. Kada država nema novaca, tada je i kripto dobar i nije važno što su prije govorili da to nije nikakav novac ili financijska imovina.  Sada im je i kripto dobar i zašto ga ne oporezovati kad ga već ima toliko u opticaju svaki dan. Mene zapravo zanima na koji način misle sve to postići. Jer ne spominje se samo KYC svih korisnika burzi koje rade na području EU nego se spominje prikupljanje informacija o svakoj transakciji i to tko je pošiljatelj, tko je primatelj, odakle je došao pošiljatelj došao do tog kripta... I naravno, tu se onda ne radi samo o prikupljanju tih informacija nego i njihovoj zaštiti. Što se mene tiče, možda sva ta pravila potaknu cvjetanje P2P trejdanja kriptovaluta. Osobno nemam ništa protiv P2P trejdanja. |
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Damn, can't we just say we are sending money from one wallet of ours to other? They won't know shit TBH.
That's one way to go around it, but I think they already have it figured out right before anyone even thought about it. Most probably they have diffent measures in place to make sure that the system will not be gamed and cheated by people, though for sure loopholes will soon be found by people to nullify what the EU is trying to do. P2P is the way to go, always has been, and regulations and laws like this will force people to go back to crypto's roots. I think that P2P trading will boom after this law passes. And I have nothing against P2P trading. It is much easier to sell crypto on some exchange, but those who value their privacy must give up on some commotion in order to preserve that privacy. |
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I still do not get how we will continue down this path like this. Maybe it is my bad, maybe I do not understand it perfectly enough. But, by the looks of it we are not going to be mining the 21 millionth coin in the planned time, it is getting very closer. Maybe I do not know the math very well, but it looks like we are mining very fast right now and I am saying this as someone who has been here for MANY years, would love to see a chart of the trajectory we are in right now. Hopefully nothing goes wrong. As long as it is technically impossible to mine 21 million and one coin, as long as it stops where it should be, that is fine by me.
I'm not sure if I understood your post right, but you are asking how can it be that there will be only 21 million BTC and we are still mining it at a rate of 6.25 BTC per 10 minutes. Take a look at this chart and you'll see that it is getting pretty flat when it's compared to the previous time. With halvings that are embedded into Bitcoin's code, there is no way to mine more than 21 million BTC in total. With few million being already lost, I guess there will never be more than 18-19 million BTC in circulation. |
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Actually, I'm tempted to sell for buying a new house. It's not as fancy as you think but I can say that it will be satisfying to call it our home.
I'm in the midst of it but probably going no for the meantime and will wait for further moving up of bitcoin, maybe a year or two more before I start selling huge amounts in my portfolio.
To some, 0.1 to 1 BTC couldn't be that much but that would be a piece of land already in some countries. But if it ever happens that bitcoin reaches back to $70k to $100k, I guess many will start picking their profits.
For me there is nothing wrong in taking profits. I did that right at the end of the 2017 bull run and I didn't regret it one bit! I would regret more seeing my portfolio dumping 80% after that. |
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Više se ne sjećam je li netko ovdje spomenuo zakon koji EU planira uvesti (iako je glasanje prošlo, ima još nekoliko birokratskih stanica prije nego zakon zaživi), a tiče se zabrane anonimnih kripto transakcija. Korisnik o_e_l_e_o je dobro sažeo bit samog zakona u ovom postu. U principu se zakon tiče svakog kripto servisa koji rade s trećom stranom. Oni će morati saznati podatke o toj trećoj strani i tu informaciju dati na raspolaganje vladama. Privatne ostaju izravne transakcije između pojedinaca te ako trgovina prima izravno plaćanje BTC-om (što kod nas u Hrvatskoj nije moguće). Ako primaju BTC preko payment processora (poput PayCek-a), onda korisnici opet moraju raditi KYC. |
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Evo na sad. Moram napisati post samo da vidim kako funkcioniraju ta pitanja. Moram priznati sa sam za prvo dobio gadno. Skoro da sam razmišljao da odem googlat ali to ne bi bilo to.
Pa nego što ćeš napraviti nego googlati ako ne znaš? Stvarno nisi upućen u način funkcioniranja današnjeg svijeta mladeži  Ja ako znam, odgovorim. Ako nemam pojma, naravno da idem googlati  |
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In fact, an address should be prevented from receiving say more than 100 ETH per hour unless it has a special permissions, for example.
You made me laugh, if this line implemented, Ethereum will be centralized, worse than fiat money. So think about finding more creative solutions. Yeah, no one can and will implement a limit to receive or send funds in crypto. That doesn't make sense... But as I suggested, multisig wallets that don't withdraw funds often should require all signatures for a withdrawal. That wouldn't make it 100% secure but it would be more secure than to require signatures only 50% of the owners. |
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Damn, can't we just say we are sending money from one wallet of ours to other? They won't know shit TBH.
That's exactly what I was thinking. I guess we'll have to wait for the law to go trough all the bureaucracy to see what can and what can't be done. |
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The law will affect exchanges and non-custodial wallets, such as metamask, ledger and trezor, as I explained. So this mean you aren't even allowed to hold your Crypto on a Ledger/Trezor? No, it means that if you hold your crypto on a Ledger, Trezor or any other non-custodial wallet, you will have to provide information about a receiver when you are sending your crypto. The same will probably be when holding your crypto on an exchange. But how will they know who owns each address? There is no mention about mandatory KYC procedure for people who holds crypto on a non-custodial wallets. If there won't be a KYC, how will they know who are the owners? And if they don't know who is the sender, how will they punish him for providing false information about a person they are sending crypto. |
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I never understood why projects with multisig wallets don't require all signatures to be valid in order to move money. I'm not sure if it is possible to put a limit like you said (for example, 5 out of 9 signatures to withdraw 1 ETH and all 9 signatures to withdraw 200 ETH). But why not require all signatures to withdraw funds from a smart contract? I'm guessing a withdrawals are not that often so the requirement of all signatures would bring more security.
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EDIT: A ne, ipak ova pitanja nisu jedina stvar. Svatko od nas je uz ostale podatke o profilu s lijeve strane dobio i podatak o IQ-u. Ako je suditi po prvom odgovoru koji sam dao, točan odgovor nosi 10 IQ bodova.
Ovo je zapravo odlična ideja. Napokon ćemo se riješit spammera na forumu! ...and starting next week, everyone with an IQ below 120 will be banned.
Dobro je da je naš lokal pun samo pametnih ljudi. Da, mogao sam i pretpostaviti da neće šala biti samo odgovaranje na razna pitanja prilikom slanja poruke. Nisam vidio topic u Meti ali sad povlačim ono o razočaranju |
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Ako je ovo jedini način kako Theymos obilježava 1. april, moram priznati da sam malo razočaran. EDIT: A ne, ipak ova pitanja nisu jedina stvar. Svatko od nas je uz ostale podatke o profilu s lijeve strane dobio i podatak o IQ-u. Ako je suditi po prvom odgovoru koji sam dao, točan odgovor nosi 10 IQ bodova. |
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I kinda had a feeling that this vote will go this way that is bad for crypto. I guess there still is a chance this won't happen any time soon because it has to go trough a bunch of other bureaucracy stuff in order to go trough. However, I really do think that unfortunately this is the future for crypto in the EU. Maybe a distant future (because of bureaucracy), but definitely a future.
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It is because Bitcoin has a huge community compared to Altcoins and of course the adoption around the world. It is also the most popular cryptocurrency to date and crypto is nothing without Bitcoin. Some country even accepted Bitcoin as a valuable asset and can be traded locally.
I don't think that Bitcoin has that bigger community than some popular altcoins. Many of top 10 CMC projects have really big community and I would not be surprised if one of them is even larger than Bitcoin's community. I'd say that the biggest reason why there is no altcoin that can replace Bitcoin is because we are still very early in the crypto adoption. Bitcoin is the king of all crypto and it probably will be the king for quite some time. But that doesn't mean that there won't be some altcoin that will emerge and dethrone Bitcoin one day. |
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I am pretty sure that bitcoin would have been great with or without altcoins, I am also sure that altcoins (the good ones) helped bitcoin grow bigger as well. These two things are not mutually exclusive, you could be great all by yourself, and still get help from other coins as well.
I do believe that bitcoin was already on a good path without all these altcoins came along, there were a few during the early days, like the first 5 years between 2009 to 2014 there were a few, but none of them really picked up this much and bitcoin was still doing awesome. At the end of the day altcoins became big and that certainly increased the love for crypto for sure.
I would add that altcoins surely added some more usage for the crypto and that brought more adoption. I'm not saying that Bitcoin wouldn't be adopted by people if it weren't for altcoins, but that adoption would be slower if it weren't for altcoins. |
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This could be seen as a bad thing. After all why would we want people like Mexican cartels to use crypto, right? But if you decide to find a way to block them from using crypto, then how long until we could block you from using as well? Either you are fully decentralized, or you are not at all.
This is why I believe that we should not be focusing our resources into finding a way for bad people to stop using crypto. ISIS uses crypto as well to launder their money, which is a terrible thing when you consider it but that is still a reality. Ignore the bad ways that cyrpto is used and just try to focus on the amazing great things that it helps get achieved like donations to Ukraine.
Almost every good thing that mankind has invented can be used both in a good way and in a bad way. But that doesn't mean that it is a bad thing in general. For example, electricity can be used to electrocute people but that doesn't mean that electricity is a bad thing. Likewise, of course Bitcoin can be used to do bad things, but it can be used for good things. |
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Pa nisam ti rekao da ga odes testirat s ETH, to nije ni uvijet za kampanju. Samo sam rekao da mislim da mixa ETH. Onaj kome obično treba mixer obično ima i malo veću toleranciju na rizik. Testiras s BTC i ostane ti 19$ na kraju sigurno. Nije da me interesira ali je ipak račuica koja će nekome odgovarati.
Ma držat ću se ja provjerenih mixera. Sjećam se prije nekog vremena je bio SmartMixer (barem mislim da se tako zvao) čiji potpis sam i ja nosio u okviru signature kampanje. Sve je bilo super dok netko nije pokušao mixati veću količinu BTC-a. Čovjek je poslao BTC i nikad nije dobio ništa natrag, mixer je proglašen scamom i kampanja je prekinuta. Zato ne želim ništa testirati niti riskirati.
Ali back on topic... Ne znam jeste li vidjeli ali počele su kružiti glasine da će Apple u okviru svoje Apple Pay usluge implementirati plaćanje putem Bitcoin Lightning mreže. |
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Evo ga sad na 281.8% u zadnjih 7 dana (bar po CG izvestaju). Sad je na $0.17. U nekom momentu sam bas bio besan na sebe sto ga ne prodadoh kad je bio 0.2+.
Nego imate li neku svoju prognozu na kojoj vrednosti bi ZIL trebao da se ustali?
Gledam ZIL već danima (nakon što sam mali dio koji mi je ostao na jednoj burzi prodao na $0.08) i stalno mislim sad će malo stati i krenuti dolje. Tako je bilo kad je došla na $0.10. Onda se cijena dva dana vrtila tu oko $0.10 i sad vidim da je od jučer ujutro porasla preko 100% na $0.20+, a i volumen je duplo veći nego prije par dana kad je vijest o metaverseu izašla. |
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Nije to tako lako za napraviti ako nemaš neki social media account sa hrpom followera. Onda ovisiš puno o drugima i moraš nekako doći do nekog influencera da počne širiti vjest za tebe.
Sada kada sam to napisao zapravo bi se vjerojatno dalo bez previše muke platiti nekom od njih da obavi posao za tebe ali opet taj mora biti dovoljno stručan za basic fact check prije objave. Možda je taj proces upravo potrajao par dana.
Ako imaš dokaz da je napravljen hack, ne znam baš da ti treba neki influencer da proširi vijest. Dovoljno je na nekoliko Discord i Telegram kanala pustiti priču i mislim da bi se lavina sama zakotrljala. Ali dobro, karma is a bitch pa je lik izgubio lovu na shortanju |
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Pa šta nije ovaj novi mixer koji daje 20$ za testiranje mixer za jedno 4 coina među kojima i ETH? Možda sam nešto krivo shvatio jer sam gledao dok sam bio na semaforu u autu samo letimično kada me manager kontaktirao da li sam zainteresiran to testirati.
Iskreno, pojma nemam. Ali nema šanse da testirajući mixer plaćam Ethereum transakcije i onda dobijem $20 kao nagradu. Osim toga, mene zanima neki provjereni mixer gdje nema straha od gubitka love. |
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