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2801  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 10:09:08 PM
Say again who ordered the lamb chops?  Smiley
2802  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 10:05:32 PM
Anyone order lamb chops?
2803  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 07:56:41 PM
If you keep saying it lambchop and wish hard enough, perhaps it will become true!

Back in reality you are for the first time in a few months on the wrong side of the market.
2804  Economy / Speculation / Re: The financial markets are starting to crash, abandon the fiat titanic on: October 12, 2014, 07:49:18 PM
Wrong. Bitcoin is or can be money (it's fungible, transactable, and has a value). But to me Bitcoin is more an asset, a store of value, rather than a currency. Bitcoin is entire independent, if bitcoin were to be affected by external markets that's only because the people thought it to be. But by its very nature, Bitcoin is absolutely independent and decentralized.

It could be money. But it isn't and it never will be.

If it is to succeed, it will be as a means of making money transfers or payments, but with the units of account that everyone is primarily concerned with being, Dollars, Euros, Pounds, Shekels, Yen, etc.

The most important ingredient behind any monetary standard is the authority that stands behind it and enforces it's use as money and that is because the #1 property of 'money', is that people have confidence in it. This even applies to the use of precious metals as money throughout history. Gold and silver coin also required some sovereign power somewhere, who was willing to recognise the metal tokens as being of value, or at least for a small fee, who was willing to the melt the metal coins and remint them into a form which was recognised as having value. This will never apply to Bitcoin.

What we might get is some kind of asset backed digital currency based around crypto technology, with all the pernicious aspect's of the Bitcoin block chain built into it. One wallet per global citizen. All economic transactions fully traceable.





Wrong Matt. It is functioning as money right now. Head over to an exchange or buy something off scan computers.

I have to be honest your post is something I would not have expected to read from you. Confidence in money we use today (fiat) backed by nothing more than the state is a temporary aberration. It is only since 1971 that people have accepted money not backed by an asset which was scarce and therefore valuable (gold).

Bitcoin has risen up from nothing and has value not because it is backed by the US military, used to buy oil, or because it is used to pay taxes, but because it is given value by the people, not under coercion but free will. And why does it retain this growing value? Because people value the properties associated with it compared with standard fiat or credit money. It is a superior money, global, frictionless with gold like commodity properties.

You really have lost the vision..



2805  Economy / Speculation / Re: Alternative to COIN? on: October 12, 2014, 07:31:00 PM
It seems that ETF aka COIN isn't going to be listed any time soon. The lawyer even mentioned something like one more year (and later changed it to "No idea when").

So, are there any alternatives? Is anybody applying for a similar fund permission on some other exchange/country? Tokio, Zurich, London, Amsterdam, Shanghai?

Link?

Is it that reddit post? You know where the lawyer allegedly gave confidential information to a redditor which was then confirmed by another unknown redditor? Otherwise known as FUD! Smiley
2806  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 07:10:02 PM
Is it over? Let's see where the price is in 48 hours Smiley

You can smell the desperation from the bears haha.
2807  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 06:51:10 PM
Dont fall for the final trap before double digits. Loose your cut now! Next critical hours will be 24

LOL You forgot Dead Bounce Cat.

Just need Warren Buffer to serve some rat poison.
2808  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 06:48:02 PM
Dont fall for the final trap before double digits. Loose your cut now! Next critical hours will be 24

Smiley
2809  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 06:44:28 PM
Slow grind higher. Wait for the damn to burst.
2810  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 06:41:20 PM


We won't Smiley
2811  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 06:37:20 PM
<bitter troll crap>

You don't have a big fan base on here from what I can gather.

Probably something to do with your constant negativity and blaming traders for market action you don't like on..a bitcoin trading thread. You are something of a contrarian indicator, one of the reasons I am long.
2812  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 06:28:40 PM
Ask walls trying to keep the price in check on finex Smiley
2813  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 06:24:25 PM
Looks like we are eating through the asks on stamp.
2814  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 06:21:16 PM
You seem to be forgetting that more and more countries are BANNING Bitcoin Smiley
<snip chinese picture>

China has never banned bitcoin.

Yes the market will break one way. You think down. I think up. Such is a market.



2815  Economy / Speculation / Re: Nice bounce on: October 12, 2014, 06:18:00 PM
So how low the price can go, what do you think ?

Everybody is saying they will buy at $200.  Grin

I know I will

I know you won't.

Yes people have a common misconception that when they see the price of a commodity (that they want to accumulate) drop significantly, that they will buy. The reality is that market sentiment is skewed negatively by the price action and they actually don't buy, but instead have an urge to sell. Separating emotion from large scale purchases with your own wealth is sometimes easier said than done Smiley
2816  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 06:10:15 PM
14,142.33 BTC shorts lol, gl with that

What happens next month when Ross loses and the US gets to keep 175k BTC and within 2 months announce its for auction again?

We are going to continue to the down trend until one of three things happen
1) ETF (wish it would have been Nov but not likely imo)
2) We get within 8-12 months of halving
3) US stock market tanks -BTC is being traded like a commodity and with Oil getting trashed and gold going down expect BTC

I have been waiting for the US stocks to crash for almost a year now with no avail - its got to happen imo - maybe 2015?

Interesting points. You seem to be attributing events to price action for some reason.
2817  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 06:09:02 PM
2K more short contracts opened this weekend alone and the price isn't going down.
2818  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 05:56:32 PM
Not really pedantic. We had a high volume reversal. The price is what 32% above the low for the year.

He said everyone knows we are in a bear market. Well that is patently false. Has the trend changed?
2819  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 05:50:12 PM
Well, this is more of a show than a proof, but here:
<snip>

I think we are all aware the price has fallen 76% from the ATH.

I mean prove we are still in a bear market.
2820  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 12, 2014, 05:45:29 PM
But this is a very bear market and everybody can see it

Prove it is a bear market.
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