This isnt anyones fault,everyone wants to be first,especially people like me-solo miners.The pools had more time to get prepared,and rushed the start,together with developer.
Anyway,mining runs well,so there are many people believing,the coin will be be a big sucess.Good luck ,I am out.
Agreed. Me too:) |
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http://pure.v2.dedicatedpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks&height=13&prev=1Dedicated stole the premine, look at block 2. Their pool was working before the nodes were operational. None of the pools were running and noone was syncing apart from dedicated. People are accusing other pools for not being on the correct chain but it is dedicated who actually caused the forked and killed this coin. In case dedicated removes this premine block here is the snapshot of their statistics page: http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010020013W140141042594656Why do you people keep going with dedicatedpool - they've destroyed this coin and you keep trusting them... It is actually community's fault for having such trust in one pool. They ceated their own chain , so if you go back to the lower chain with the nodes in the op posted by the dev everyone will be on the right chain and coins in dedicatedpool will not be valid Block 2 worth 250k coins was mined by dedicatedpool. This was supposed to be dev's premine! Why did people and other pools follow dedicated? This was a mistake. Dedicatedpool was online before anyone else could even sync, the nodes were not reachable and yet the pool operator decided to go with the launch. This has nothing to do with having bigger hashrate but rather with being dishonest and not waiting for nodes to be online. Read the thread right after the launch, no one was able to sync but somehow dedicated started to mine immediately. For mechanical reasons dedicatedpool blockchain became longer as it was launched before anyone else could connect to the network. As a result - dev lost his premine. I believe dev wasn't aware of any problems at the beginning as he was on non-dedicatedpool chain and he didn't see any problems (his premine was in place and everything seemed ok from his point of view). It is not dev's fault, it is the fault of dedicatedpool who was in a rush to take as much network hashrate as possible and launched his pool before the nodes were up. OK now if you want to remain ignorant, that is your choosing. The dedicated pool was controlled by loljosh. As a matter of fact he IS the dedicated pool. They perpetrated the same scam on LibertyCoin with a 24hash.com pool that disappeared into thin air without having made but a few payouts to miners. Who had the rest of the mined coins? That's right, loljosh and his accomplice, Templar 77/ Carlos R. Torres Ferguson. Follow their trail, they have quite an active one full of skeletons of shit coins (scam jobs). OK so if you are saying that these same people are behind dedicated pool what is your proof? By the same token.. why do you defend them so hard? Because I'm their lawyer! Joking aside I'm just annoyed that the finger of blame isn't being pointed at the developer. No because you are defending a pool who has repeatedly stole in the past. You sound like their fucking lawyer. I was not aware of them stealing in the past. I am only speaking from my own experience. If you have a problem with my opinion go fuck yourself (Oh you are already). |
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I'm sorry if that were even true it means that the developer didn't do what they were supposed to and actually premine the premine. Also if dedicated took the premine block they would have a hell of a lot more than 250K coins. Please stop defending the developer. If they were stupid enough to allow dedicated to start when they hadn't premined then they are too clueless to run a coin.
Soul_eater, 250K is exactly the 2.5% premine at 10mil coins. You are saying other misleading things as well. Actually the premine would be in the first block. Dedicated mined a lot more than just one block. So actually get your facts straight. Anyway I'm not here to defend dedicated. You are free too take it up with them and if you want to blindly go on trusting the developer and saying this is the fault the one pool that seemed to be getting things right then that is up to you. I have already wasted enough on this fiasco. Some people just can't see the truth if it is staring them in the face. Blocks 1 and 2 were supposed to be part of the premine, I suppose. Block 1 with 1 coin reward as a test block and block 2 with 250k coins reward. Both blocks were mined by dedicatedpool. If you look at alternative chain, the one that should be the correct chain and the one that you can get by deleting dedicatedpool's chain and syncing again you would see that blocks 1 and 2 had one transaction each with transaction ids: 7e8e940921208a2632562d121891a2ae91f09d56628f3b982eb55c6cba6ba666 c5ca2717740dc4054d8a0b068b1a29f176fa33a04b2f3b7ce4b8a561257248ed the recipient address for both of these transactions is: LiYzgezkovGYve8dk1g8ifxochXEBTWanB Which, I believe, is the dev's premine address. This blockchain is rougly 110 blocks behind dedicatedpool's chain. How do you know those went to Dedicated Pool and not the developer- unless dedicated show you can access their wallet or indeed the developer's wallet you can't be sure who took the coins? Anyway I'm bored with the minutiae of it. Whoever is at fault - I'm out of it and I'm not getting involved in this coin or with this developer again. If evidence emerges that Dedicated Pool were knowingly part of the scam then I will be avoiding them too but I've mined many other coins with them in the past and there were no irregularities in those cases. |
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I'm sorry if that were even true it means that the developer didn't do what they were supposed to and actually premine the premine. Also if dedicated took the premine block they would have a hell of a lot more than 250K coins. Please stop defending the developer. If they were stupid enough to allow dedicated to start when they hadn't premined then they are too clueless to run a coin.
Soul_eater, 250K is exactly the 2.5% premine at 10mil coins. You are saying other misleading things as well. Actually the premine would be in the first block. Dedicated mined a lot more than just one block. So actually get your facts straight. Anyway I'm not here to defend dedicated. You are free too take it up with them and if you want to blindly go on trusting the developer and saying this is the fault the one pool that seemed to be getting things right then that is up to you. I have already wasted enough on this fiasco. Some people just can't see the truth if it is staring them in the face. Blocks 1 and 2 were supposed to be part of the premine, I suppose. Block 1 with 1 coin reward as a test block and block 2 with 250k coins reward. Both blocks were mined by dedicatedpool. If you look at alternative chain, the one that should be the correct chain and the one that you can get by deleting dedicatedpool's chain and syncing again you would see that blocks 1 and 2 had one transaction each with transaction ids: 7e8e940921208a2632562d121891a2ae91f09d56628f3b982eb55c6cba6ba666 c5ca2717740dc4054d8a0b068b1a29f176fa33a04b2f3b7ce4b8a561257248ed the recipient address for both of these transactions is: LiYzgezkovGYve8dk1g8ifxochXEBTWanB Which, I believe, is the dev's premine address. This blockchain is rougly 110 blocks behind dedicatedpool's chain. |
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Losing the premine was the dev fault but if dedicated pool dumped the 250k, that is just bad for business. Threw their reputation down the drain for 1.5 btc. Not the most honest pool anymore.
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That makes no sense - they probably make way more than that in fees in a day. Why would they destroy their own business for such a small amount?
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http://pure.v2.dedicatedpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks&height=13&prev=1Dedicated stole the premine, look at block 2. Their pool was working before the nodes were operational. None of the pools were running and noone was syncing apart from dedicated. People are accusing other pools for not being on the correct chain but it is dedicated who actually caused the forked and killed this coin. In case dedicated removes this premine block here is the snapshot of their statistics page: http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010020013W140141042594656Why do you people keep going with dedicatedpool - they've destroyed this coin and you keep trusting them... It is actually community's fault for having such trust in one pool. They ceated their own chain , so if you go back to the lower chain with the nodes in the op posted by the dev everyone will be on the right chain and coins in dedicatedpool will not be valid Block 2 worth 250k coins was mined by dedicatedpool. This was supposed to be dev's premine! Why did people and other pools follow dedicated? This was a mistake. Dedicatedpool was online before anyone else could even sync, the nodes were not reachable and yet the pool operator decided to go with the launch. This has nothing to do with having bigger hashrate but rather with being dishonest and not waiting for nodes to be online. Read the thread right after the launch, no one was able to sync but somehow dedicated started to mine immediately. For mechanical reasons dedicatedpool blockchain became longer as it was launched before anyone else could connect to the network. As a result - dev lost his premine. I believe dev wasn't aware of any problems at the beginning as he was on non-dedicatedpool chain and he didn't see any problems (his premine was in place and everything seemed ok from his point of view). It is not dev's fault, it is the fault of dedicatedpool who was in a rush to take as much network hashrate as possible and launched his pool before the nodes were up. OK now if you want to remain ignorant, that is your choosing. The dedicated pool was controlled by loljosh. As a matter of fact he IS the dedicated pool. They perpetrated the same scam on LibertyCoin with a 24hash.com pool that disappeared into thin air without having made but a few payouts to miners. Who had the rest of the mined coins? That's right, loljosh and his accomplice, Templar 77/ Carlos R. Torres Ferguson. Follow their trail, they have quite an active one full of skeletons of shit coins (scam jobs). OK so if you are saying that these same people are behind dedicated pool what is your proof? By the same token.. why do you defend them so hard? Because I'm their lawyer! Joking aside I'm just annoyed that the finger of blame isn't being pointed at the developer. |
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I'm sorry if that were even true it means that the developer didn't do what they were supposed to and actually premine the premine. Also if dedicated took the premine block they would have a hell of a lot more than 250K coins. Please stop defending the developer. If they were stupid enough to allow dedicated to start when they hadn't premined then they are too clueless to run a coin.
Soul_eater, 250K is exactly the 2.5% premine at 10mil coins. You are saying other misleading things as well. Actually the premine would be in the first block. Dedicated mined a lot more than just one block. So actually get your facts straight. Anyway I'm not here to defend dedicated. You are free too take it up with them and if you want to blindly go on trusting the developer and saying this is the fault the one pool that seemed to be getting things right then that is up to you. I have already wasted enough on this fiasco. Some people just can't see the truth if it is staring them in the face. Why couldn't the premine be in the second block? I'm not saying there's anything wrong with dedicated, it just doesn't seem you understand that a pool with all the hash can start their own node and take the premine. Why would it be in the second block? Why not then put it in block 9999? Standard practice is to put it in the first block - mine it and then let the pools join. Not the other way around. It only makes sense for the pool to "steal" it if they were in on the scam - otherwise they would just assume that the premine had been mined otherwise it is an instamine. |
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http://pure.v2.dedicatedpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks&height=13&prev=1Dedicated stole the premine, look at block 2. Their pool was working before the nodes were operational. None of the pools were running and noone was syncing apart from dedicated. People are accusing other pools for not being on the correct chain but it is dedicated who actually caused the forked and killed this coin. In case dedicated removes this premine block here is the snapshot of their statistics page: http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010020013W140141042594656Why do you people keep going with dedicatedpool - they've destroyed this coin and you keep trusting them... It is actually community's fault for having such trust in one pool. They ceated their own chain , so if you go back to the lower chain with the nodes in the op posted by the dev everyone will be on the right chain and coins in dedicatedpool will not be valid Block 2 worth 250k coins was mined by dedicatedpool. This was supposed to be dev's premine! Why did people and other pools follow dedicated? This was a mistake. Dedicatedpool was online before anyone else could even sync, the nodes were not reachable and yet the pool operator decided to go with the launch. This has nothing to do with having bigger hashrate but rather with being dishonest and not waiting for nodes to be online. Read the thread right after the launch, no one was able to sync but somehow dedicated started to mine immediately. For mechanical reasons dedicatedpool blockchain became longer as it was launched before anyone else could connect to the network. As a result - dev lost his premine. I believe dev wasn't aware of any problems at the beginning as he was on non-dedicatedpool chain and he didn't see any problems (his premine was in place and everything seemed ok from his point of view). It is not dev's fault, it is the fault of dedicatedpool who was in a rush to take as much network hashrate as possible and launched his pool before the nodes were up. OK now if you want to remain ignorant, that is your choosing. The dedicated pool was controlled by loljosh. As a matter of fact he IS the dedicated pool. They perpetrated the same scam on LibertyCoin with a 24hash.com pool that disappeared into thin air without having made but a few payouts to miners. Who had the rest of the mined coins? That's right, loljosh and his accomplice, Templar 77/ Carlos R. Torres Ferguson. Follow their trail, they have quite an active one full of skeletons of shit coins (scam jobs). OK so if you are saying that these same people are behind dedicated pool what is your proof? |
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I'm sorry if that were even true it means that the developer didn't do what they were supposed to and actually premine the premine. Also if dedicated took the premine block they would have a hell of a lot more than 250K coins. Please stop defending the developer. If they were stupid enough to allow dedicated to start when they hadn't premined then they are too clueless to run a coin.
Soul_eater, 250K is exactly the 2.5% premine at 10mil coins. You are saying other misleading things as well. Actually the premine would be in the first block. Dedicated mined a lot more than just one block. So actually get your facts straight. Anyway I'm not here to defend dedicated. You are free too take it up with them and if you want to blindly go on trusting the developer and saying this is the fault the one pool that seemed to be getting things right then that is up to you. I have already wasted enough on this fiasco. Some people just can't see the truth if it is staring them in the face. |
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http://pure.v2.dedicatedpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks&height=13&prev=1Dedicated stole the premine, look at block 2. Their pool was working before the nodes were operational. None of the pools were running and noone was syncing apart from dedicated. People are accusing other pools for not being on the correct chain but it is dedicated who actually caused the forked and killed this coin. In case dedicated removes this premine block here is the snapshot of their statistics page: http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010020013W140141042594656Why do you people keep going with dedicatedpool - they've destroyed this coin and you keep trusting them... It is actually community's fault for having such trust in one pool. They ceated their own chain , so if you go back to the lower chain with the nodes in the op posted by the dev everyone will be on the right chain and coins in dedicatedpool will not be valid Block 2 worth 250k coins was mined by dedicatedpool. This was supposed to be dev's premine! Why did people and other pools follow dedicated? This was a mistake. Dedicatedpool was online before anyone else could even sync, the nodes were not reachable and yet the pool operator decided to go with the launch. This has nothing to do with having bigger hashrate but rather with being dishonest and not waiting for nodes to be online. Read the thread right after the launch, no one was able to sync but somehow dedicated started to mine immediately. For mechanical reasons dedicatedpool blockchain became longer as it was launched before anyone else could connect to the network. As a result - dev lost his premine. I believe dev wasn't aware of any problems at the beginning as he was on non-dedicatedpool chain and he didn't see any problems (his premine was in place and everything seemed ok from his point of view). It is not dev's fault, it is the fault of dedicatedpool who was in a rush to take as much network hashrate as possible and launched his pool before the nodes were up. First off it is the devs fault as well. He confirmed the chain and nodes that was the same blockcount that dedicated pool was on, otherwise I never would have opened trading on the coin. Secondly, I find it shameful that dedicated pool let it go like that. They should get in contact with me and supply the 1.6BTC to refund the people they were responsible for scamming...just my opinion. I don't think dedicated deliberately did anything wrong. Having been at many coin launches and having researched the subject it is standard practice to keep running until or unless the dev and the community agrees to stop. I think with the rate of new altcoins coming out and the amount of new people coming in it leads to misunderstandings. This is entirely the developer's fault. I would definitely get in touch with Dedicated though from my little interaction with them they seem like decent, trustworthy people. |
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http://pure.v2.dedicatedpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks&height=13&prev=1Dedicated stole the premine, look at block 2. Their pool was working before the nodes were operational. None of the pools were running and noone was syncing apart from dedicated. People are accusing other pools for not being on the correct chain but it is dedicated who actually caused the forked and killed this coin. In case dedicated removes this premine block here is the snapshot of their statistics page: http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010020013W140141042594656Why do you people keep going with dedicatedpool - they've destroyed this coin and you keep trusting them... It is actually community's fault for having such trust in one pool. They ceated their own chain , so if you go back to the lower chain with the nodes in the op posted by the dev everyone will be on the right chain and coins in dedicatedpool will not be valid Block 2 worth 250k coins was mined by dedicatedpool. This was supposed to be dev's premine! Why did people and other pools follow dedicated? This was a mistake. Dedicatedpool was online before anyone else could even sync, the nodes were not reachable and yet the pool operator decided to go with the launch. This has nothing to do with having bigger hashrate but rather with being dishonest and not waiting for nodes to be online. Read the thread right after the launch, no one was able to sync but somehow dedicated started to mine immediately. For mechanical reasons dedicatedpool blockchain became longer as it was launched before anyone else could connect to the network. As a result - dev lost his premine. I believe dev wasn't aware of any problems at the beginning as he was on non-dedicatedpool chain and he didn't see any problems (his premine was in place and everything seemed ok from his point of view). It is not dev's fault, it is the fault of dedicatedpool who was in a rush to take as much network hashrate as possible and launched his pool before the nodes were up. I'm sorry if that were even true it means that the developer didn't do what they were supposed to and actually premine the premine. Also if dedicated took the premine block they would have a hell of a lot more than 250K coins. Please stop defending the developer. If they were stupid enough to allow dedicated to start when they hadn't premined then they are too clueless to run a coin. |
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Well this sure was another wild ride and it was a privilege to share it with you guys. See you on the next shitcoin!
Agreed - wild for sure. Maybe next time we can make it a genuine coin instead of a scam - lol  |
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Apologies to anyone who I called a moron or so forth. I was actually venting my own anger at myself for being pulled in at everyone else.
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I was saying it from beggining......they mede their own fork,and forced the rest to go with them....
Well I suppose this is what happens when people with single digit IQs try to mine coins. Even your 123 isnt enough to compare to me,maybe i am not expert on cryptocurrency,but try not to offend people,you know shit about. Sorry am just annoyed. We've all been fooled. I was just trying to get you to realise that it would be madness to continue. Please don't take it to heart. I sometimes talk online like I do in real life - but obviously you can't see my facial expressions - tone etc. |
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Yah..this is crap. The only way for a new exchange to get volume is to jump on a coin, at the same time we end up with a lot of scammy crap. It's tiring.
So why not stop supporting coins that do IPOs or Premines? Dedicated used to be the pool you could trust to pick out the good coins, but more and more he seems to be the "official" or first pool for many crappy coins that end up poorly. Agreed but I think people are too scared to miss out on the next big thing that they are getting swept up in "crypto-fever" - I got pulled in and should have known better. Especially the VISA card thing - why would VISA work with a crypto at all (it steals business from them and gives people virtually free transactions) - and if the world went crazy and they did why would it be some amateur POS like this? (note I don't mean Proof of Stake). |
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http://pure.v2.dedicatedpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks&height=13&prev=1Dedicated stole the premine, look at block 2. Their pool was working before the nodes were operational. None of the pools were running and noone was syncing apart from dedicated. People are accusing other pools for not being on the correct chain but it is dedicated who actually caused the forked and killed this coin. In case dedicated removes this premine block here is the snapshot of their statistics page: http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010020013W140141042594656Why do you people keep going with dedicatedpool - they've destroyed this coin and you keep trusting them... It is actually community's fault for having such trust in one pool. They ceated their own chain , so if you go back to the lower chain with the nodes in the op posted by the dev everyone will be on the right chain and coins in dedicatedpool will not be valid You sir are a moron. dedicated pool was online before dev publish the nodes , because wallets wasn't syncing , dumbass Oh please ask your Mummy next time before you go out to play:) Why do you still want to mine this coin? |
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To all the morons who don't understand how cryptos work. The FORK is not the problem. The DEV is the problem. Do mine this coin whatever happens or whatever the developer tells you. If you don't understand yet then I'm sorry but there is no hope for you.
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I was saying it from beggining......they mede their own fork,and forced the rest to go with them....
Well I suppose this is what happens when people with single digit IQs try to mine coins. |
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http://pure.v2.dedicatedpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks&height=13&prev=1Dedicated stole the premine, look at block 2. Their pool was working before the nodes were operational. None of the pools were running and noone was syncing apart from dedicated. People are accusing other pools for not being on the correct chain but it is dedicated who actually caused the forked and killed this coin. In case dedicated removes this premine block here is the snapshot of their statistics page: http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010020013W140141042594656Why do you people keep going with dedicatedpool - they've destroyed this coin and you keep trusting them... It is actually community's fault for having such trust in one pool. They ceated their own chain , so if you go back to the lower chain with the nodes in the op posted by the dev everyone will be on the right chain and coins in dedicatedpool will not be valid You sir are a moron. |
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http://pure.v2.dedicatedpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks&height=13&prev=1Dedicated stole the premine, look at block 2. Their pool was working before the nodes were operational. None of the pools were running and noone was syncing apart from dedicated. People are accusing other pools for not being on the correct chain but it is dedicated who actually caused the forked and killed this coin. In case dedicated removes this premine block here is the snapshot of their statistics page: http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010020013W140141042594656Why do you people keep going with dedicatedpool - they've destroyed this coin and you keep trusting them... It is actually community's fault for having such trust in one pool. PURE BOLLOCKS - Dedicated are one of the oldest and most reputable pools around. The fork occurred because Dedicated had the majority of the hashrate. They didn't steal the blockchain - if you did some basic reading on how blockchains work you would understand that it would immediately cede to the longer chain (which by defacto would be the one with the most miners/MH). Please do yourself a favour and figure out what you are doing before you start mining. |
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