pah... die alte ente läuft hier also auch rumm....
Ich watschel überall rum... ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) sehe das auch nicht so kritisch.... denke mal es wird wohl irgendwann mit in die software bzw. die wallets mit eingebaut... -> sodass man es nicht mehr so leicht sieht, woher die btc kommen...
Es gibt CoinControl bei BTC, dann gibts noch BTCD und DarkCoin. Alles easy. bei electrum auch
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ohoh ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHQMRrSS.png&t=663&c=buBcZw_GJTytGg)
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Our task to fight them, we are doing well.
I propose not to fight (just makes them stronger), but to transcend them. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fvqyr1y0.jpg&t=663&c=yqLoFqENInFCYg)
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Rickards still not getting it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpYlc5oftM0the arguments against his 2 main concerns are that Bitcoin may not forever be considered "property" subject to capital gains. see Stockman's bill. also Jim, dump the FUD about Bitcoiner's being tax evaders. i paid mine.yes, Bitcoin hasn't been tested in a major economic wide downturn. but it is holding in there in its own economic downturn over the last year since gox. and we're still seeing worldwide growth, investment, and adoption. these are all positives. in fact, i think there's a good chance in the next economic downturn, we'll see a Cyprus-like RunToBitcoin as the only remaining form of Sound Money on the planet. mark my words.I second both points (bolded). It might also be 'the awakening' for some gold/silver bugs ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . But that has a lower probability.
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Mastercard head of SE Asia goes all out with every myth, stereotype and piece of FUD he could possibly fit into 4.30 of attacking bitcoin. This is scripted propaganda and it is excellent to watch. It really shows how worried they are that they have to make such an anti bitcoin informerci that can easily be taken apart. The part about what their core business is shows just how stupid they think their customers are https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=bO4jHXjCXw8This is sickening! I see this as primarily a message to government officials: we'll help you collect taxes, apply capital controls and 'financial transparency' to your population so you can keep control. In turn you better start regulatorily strangling those goddamn cryptocurrencies! A direct attack on human rights (imo) like financial privacy and freedom of economic interaction. Those things should be valued much higher than the governments ability to collect taxes or spy on their constituencies. yep, totally ridiculous. the good thing is he twisted himself all up in knots and hypocrisies which to any intelligent person was laughable. it's not just ridiculous, it's dangerous. The sad thing is: a lot of people around me are so fucking mind-controlled that they buy into this kind of rethoric and turn a blind eye to the consequences going down such a path could have. Next thing they call me a potential criminal with something to hide for wanting privacy. The sad thing is that I'm seeing tendencies in myself to self-censor because I'm growing sick of having those discussions with people. The problem is that many people are not intelligent (at least not by your standard), but they (as anyone else) have fears and are prone to propaganda. I feel we're coming to a crossroads. We go down one path and there's freedom and prosperity for most, we go down the other one and there's oppression and suffering for almost everyone (well, maybe not, maybe it'll be kind of enjoyable because we're going to be so damn brainwashed that we don't even realize what's being done to us and how our lives could be different)
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What's the disk size required at the moment to run an Electrum server?
On my host, in addition to bitcoind data, it currently uses 16GB (pruning_limit=10000)
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Mastercard head of SE Asia goes all out with every myth, stereotype and piece of FUD he could possibly fit into 4.30 of attacking bitcoin. This is scripted propaganda and it is excellent to watch. It really shows how worried they are that they have to make such an anti bitcoin informerci that can easily be taken apart. The part about what their core business is shows just how stupid they think their customers are https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=bO4jHXjCXw8This is sickening! I see this as primarily a message to government officials: we'll help you collect taxes, apply capital controls and 'financial transparency' to your population so you can keep control. In turn you better start regulatorily strangling those goddamn cryptocurrencies! A direct attack on human rights (imo) like financial privacy and freedom of economic interaction. Those things should be valued much higher than the governments ability to collect taxes or spy on their constituencies.
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Either the price of btc rises significantly in the next 24 months or it fails.
Why? The bitcoin network can run on 3 Tibetan monks with abacuses. I think it's impossible to get difficulty down to that level within 24 months. Hmm, you may need to revise that; you most certainly underestimate 3 Tibetan monks with abacuses! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Oh! I misread you saying "Tibetan monk eys".
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I would get a Trezor, but I don't want something more expensive than the average Filipino can afford. I want them to embrace the idea that Bitcoin will save them money. So I'm still hoping that the price will come down considerably. I am sure those plans are being worked on.
I'm guessing price will come down even more (a large part of the cost was in development, so marginal cost should be low... add competition). The trezor is (imo) the best hw wallet out there. There are cheaper ones, but they are not as satisfying in my mind (btchip, for example). The more people buy at higher prices (I bought at 3 BTC, for example), the faster the price can come down to Filipino levels. So: maybe you should get one now ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Either the price of btc rises significantly in the next 24 months or it fails.
Why? The bitcoin network can run on 3 Tibetan monks with abacuses. I think it's impossible to get difficulty down to that level within 24 months.
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Careful with the christmas presents, ladies and gentlemen. Hold on to your wallets! Remember Dickens's uncle Scrooge. An if you plan to soften up: unlike Scrooge, you must wait until BTCUSD is 1000!
Dicken's uncle scrooge? Damn, I only know this one. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQQ6gZ.jpg&t=663&c=wBNgq8nNVGJvrA) That one has so many stories, don't know if there is one where he actually spends his money. He does make investments when he sees opportunity.
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Here's something you don't often read: From Nasdaq.com "Why Bitcoin's Stability In Volatile Markets Makes It A 'Must Own' For Long-Term Investors" They would argue that this relative stability is a sign of maturity in the market, while those who look for the negative in anything to do with crypto-currencies would no doubt claim it is a sign of a growing indifference. To some extent, both may be right, but either way it is a good thing for Bitcoin’s long term prospects. Of course, a trading range of 30 percent or so still represents enough volatility to keep even the most ardent currency trader occupied, but after establishing those levels of support and resistance BTC/USD has begun to narrow its own range and has spent the last week or so hovering around the mid-point of $370. Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/why-bitcoins-stability-in-volatile-markets-makes-it-a-must-own-for-long-term-investors-cm418813#ixzz3Kmo34XNSThese periods have happened before and usually precede periods of high volatility. Anyone saying 'Bitcoin is maturing' because: "volatility down, liquidity up" doesn't quite understand what he's looking at. Yes: BTC/USD volatility is slowly decreasing when looking at long timeframes, but the quiet period we currently see (last ~1.5 weeks) is just that: a period which will end.
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can someone direct me to a source where i can practice constructing a multi-sig tx with the equivalent of a "createrawtransaction" using bitcoind and JSON-RPC?
you could try sx: https://sx.dyne.org/
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everyone seems to think we're going to go up soon.
I'm not so sure, just because of that.
I think we're going down as well, would be the first time I'm right ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Hopefully my shorts are profitable this time. I think we could go as low as 208 to 240 at january 1st.nah. where are your stops in case we go up? EDIT: also, I didn't say we'd go down, just not up soon.
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Electrum does not use BIP39. They have their own custom word list, as does DarkWallet which is trying to be compatible with Electrum. Anything that IS compatible with the BIP39 standard will let you import the coins (such as a Trezor). Electrum claimed they will move to BIP39 eventually, but I don't know when.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the move to BIP39 is in the upcoming 2.0 release (that also supports trezor).
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Tonight, I was asisting someone with the setup of his Trezor through teamviewer. I found out that I could NOT see the mouse moving when he chose his pin code !! Very good programming ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I doubt that's intentional. No need to hide mouse moves anyway because the shuffling of the keyboard is only known to the device and to someone looking at its display at the time.
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everyone seems to think we're going to go up soon.
I'm not so sure, just because of that.
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wat is? kein stammtisch?
geht ja nicht, war letztes mal schon nicht dabei.
ich komme
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Careful with the christmas presents, ladies and gentlemen. Hold on to your wallets! Remember Dickens's uncle Scrooge. An if you plan to soften up: unlike Scrooge, you must wait until BTCUSD is 1000!
Dicken's uncle scrooge? Damn, I only know this one. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQQ6gZ.jpg&t=663&c=wBNgq8nNVGJvrA)
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That the smarter money is in bitcoin.
sorry, was too tempting.
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