It's entertainment but they are fooling the fans if they just follow the script. We still see exhibition fights because we think the fighters are competing to win, not following the script for the sake of money and to avoid getting injured, if that's how delicate they are, then they should not fight.
I don't believe that Tyson will not be able to hurt Logan Paul which is not a boxer, so it's easy to detect if it's rigged or not.
By instinct and trust with how great Tyson, hitting or hurting logan is not impossible to him, not unless there's really something that being cooked inside this deal, I see your point and there are still fans who believes with the greatness of Iron Mike; they are willing to buy tickets and bet for him. People who see him when he still in his prime and those young adults who heard about him and watch his clips. So far, it's just a rumor and we don't have anything to prove it. It's fans' money to use, they are responsible for that.   Fans would not question the fight as long as entertaining, but it's normal that some fans will have some speculation whether the fight is clean or rigged, and even if it's rigged, they wouldn't be answerable to anyone as what they are doing is just simply for entertainment. |
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I think these dirty style plays from LeBron are going to become more and more common as his aging lowers his play level to be below some of the young guys in the league. I don’t he’s going to have an easy time adjusting to him not being the most dominant player on the court. When I start seeing stuff like that, it makes me think he should start considering retirement before he cheapens his legacy.
Agree with you, that's a sign of frustration that he cannot be dominant anymore, plus his team now is struggling and I really thought they would lose against the Pistons but I'm surprised they bounce back really strong in the 4th quarter. They had struggled against a weak team, so they have no chance to beat a good team especially in the playoffs if they won't adjust and Lebron acted like he began to doubt himself. Or he could be feeling insecure about this young guys because he is disrespecting him. And if I may recall in this game, he was really frustrated, he was blocked twice with no fouls. It was clean block though so maybe this really fuel James attitude in this game specially a team like Detroit. Yes, he is not a dirty players, but this time he really went overboard and it was a cheap shot. I now have a doubt that the Lakers would still be a championship contender team, if their leader can't handle the problem, then their good chemistry will never be built. As for the Latest odds on the NBA futures, LA Lakers is now ranked at number 4, previously at number 2, here are the odds. https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/ODDS TO WIN 2022 NBA FINALS
Team Odds
Brooklyn Nets +260
Golden State Warriors +600
Milwaukee Bucks +700
Los Angeles Lakers +900
Utah Jazz +1000 |
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No, this is just an exhibition match so Mike shouldn't take this as professional fight. Besides, he has been out for many years in professional boxing, he is already 55, so this is just for a show to his fans.
Well on the Roy Jones fight, we saw that it is predetermined, so in this fight, this might be the case again. It could end up in draw for all we know.
Why do you think that Roy Jones and Mike Tyson danced to a predetermined result. The rules were such that the winner will be determined only if anyone could knockout the opponent and once they were not able to land that punch, it went to a draw. Roy Jones was the best during his time and when it comes Logan Paul he is nothing in terms of skill level and Mike Tyson could knock him out. Unless if Mike was instructed on not to give out that knock out punch even though he's old but his still capable on doing that and someone like Logan couldnt able to bare it out i presumed. They would really dance off for the sake of entertainment as this fight was settled for that very reason which it isnt really surprising that they would really be trying their best to put up a good show thats why im not really expecting that much for it to be that convincing but lets hope that this one truly entertains. It's entertainment but they are fooling the fans if they just follow the script. We still see exhibition fights because we think the fighters are competing to win, not following the script for the sake of money and to avoid getting injured, if that's how delicate they are, then they should not fight. I don't believe that Tyson will not be able to hurt Logan Paul which is not a boxer, so it's easy to detect if it's rigged or not. |
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Lets forget first the Terrence Romeo rumors and lets see some other news that are related to Basketball Shabazz Mohammad, the import of Meralco has been replaced by Tony Bishop. Mohammad is replaced due to a personal emergency. - Base on One Sports Facebook Page, Bishop is the leading scorer of the Panama National Team in 2017 Fiba AmeriCup. Making a quick Google search and you will find that the National team ranks 48 overall so they are at the middle of the rankings. He is the top 2 leading scorer of the team with 16 PPG and the top rebounder with 9 RPG so I'm expecting that this averages will be higher coming into the PBA although I want to see Shabazz playing in the league. Its just very exciting to see an NBA player playing into our league but.. things like this are happening. We haven't seen Mohammad played yet so it's okay, at least they have an import to compete in the next conference. His stats - https://www.basketball-reference.com/gleague/players/b/bishoto01d.htmlAnyway, any announcements into when the Governor's Cup will begin? Maybe I'm not updated  There's no official news yet but it's expected to start this month. |
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The main complaint about him is that he has always boxed in the same weight class. Because of this, he missed the chance to fight very strong boxers. GGG has its own style of boxing. His fighting style is very original. He literally crushes his opponent. Power jab looks amazing. GGG moves perfectly around the ring, trying to pin the opponent to the ropes.
I don't think the weight class is the main issues to fight with top boxers, he already fight with Canelo Alvarez (the best middleweight class) but the thing he's lost. It will be different if he win from Alvarez, obviously he will be moved to Light heavyweight class. Anyway Murata is one of good boxer in this class, if he lose then he shouldn't move to other class. One of the toughest challenge or gamble for a certain boxer is that they would decide on stepping up on a certain or higher division which could really be that dangerous yet you know that there are fighters which are stronger but it doesnt mean that it cant be handled yet we know there are boxers who had able to attained several weight divisions. For the best time being then staying up with the current division would be ideal and its true that Murata is really something good on this class so he shouldnt really be that confident. It's not hard if he is not thinking of not risking his undefeated record. It's a challenge IMO, and being undefeated is not the main basis to consider if the fighter is the best, it's on how he challenges himself on fighting the best fighters in a division that he thinks he can still handle. Like Pacman, he is not undefeated and yet people think that he is better than Mayweather. |
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Crawford is quick, while Porter is maybe strong but he is very predictable, therefore it's easy for Crawford to avoid the power punches of Porter and he will just counter him to score. If this fight ended up in the judges scorecards, then most likely Crawford will go home as the winner.
In most cases, the quicker fighter in the ring gets the higher chance of winning. Just like Manny Pacquiao, his quickness is his key to victory and he was able to become a legend becoming an 8th division champion and with his quickness, he was able to beat bigger opponents, and not only that, it looks very easy on his part. Yes, as what they say in boxing as proven by Manny "speed kills". But I don't see Crawford as like Manny though in terms of speed, he just throw short burst of punch and that's it, maybe it's the timing and not really that speed. But against Porter who is super aggressive, it will be very evident. Specially if he does this counterpunching and not allowing Porter to take charge like a bull. Crawford will be the matador, his moves very calculated. He has to do that so he will not get tired in the fight, Porter is known to be a bull in the ring and he does not respect the power of his opponent. Look how Spence struggles against Porter, though Spence was the heavy favorite but he really work hard just to win in a split decision against Porter. Maybe it will be different in this fight, but Porter has proven he can go toe to toe against a champion and Crawford is not gonna be an exemption. |
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I was also surprised to see the Nuggets having it's own winning streak silently. After the MPJ injury and the Jokic incident, it seems that the team are now back on track. West is really very unpredictable, no one has the clear path at the top.
Maybe they already found their rhythm, that's the Nuggets that I'm cheering last season, they have a rough start and now they figure out how to win and show consistency. The Blazers have no match with the Nuggets and that is considering Murray and MPJ are not even playing. I know Lillard did not play too, but this is 1 is to 2, so the Blazers still have the edge here, so no excuse for them Nuggets were really the better team and Jokic is just unstoppable who almost tallied a triple-double. I see that too!  they are now playing like the way they were before, considering that MPJ and Murray are not there. Jokic shows the leadership that this team is looking from him, a classic Joker who knows the best in how to distribute the ball so well. They are silently moving back on top again, number 3 now with the current standing from the Westside. It's good to see that there's no real heavy favorite now, a lot of teams who really stepping up placing the fans to be more exited every time the game was set for their respective teams. Therefore it's very important that Jokic will stay cool because he is now the target of their opponents so they can distract him. If Jokic is focused, he can be a double-double machine or even a triple-double machine because he is very smart, a big man with a good vision in the court, or let's just say an all-around player. Now they are up for a challenge against the Mavericks who has a hot Luka with a good teammate KP, I'm sure this game is an exciting game to watch. |
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Well, let's see in the new conference if there's an improvement. Recovering from a serious injury may require time depending on the player and since Fajardo is the best player in the league, I'm optimistic that we will see an old Fajardo the soonest. We have imports by next conference so Fajardo would be able to relax a bit, I mean he does not need to carry his team anymore as the import will do the job, rebounding and blocking shots, I think that's easier compared to doing it and scoring at the same time.
Not only the import, but also with the surrounding players. A lot of options aside from those familiar faces, those two new players are also known to contribute. Manuel and Enciso are both scorers when plays are designed for them. And we also expect that import will step up and lead them. I don't have any info yet about the import, but knowing SMB; they are very capable of paying / hiring good caliber import. The chemistry and the type of leadership is what we need to wait from coach Leo's back up guy. Vic Manuel is a very good player but for me, Arwind Satos fits better on the roster of San Miguel Beer Men than Manuel. For me it's a small nerfing of SMB in terms of their strat and teamwork. After all, we all know that Santos were just traded because he's in his 40s, on the otherhand, SMB want a strong player that is below the retirement age, and it happened to be Manuel. Let's see how they will do it. We cannot tell who fits better until we see Manuel start playing with the SMB. However, in comparison, Arwind Santos has helped a lot the SMB team to be successful because he won championships many times with this team. Maybe let's just say that his time has come, accept his fate and probably also prepare for retirement soon as that's life in basketball. Right now, SMB is still figuring out how to be more competitive to be a dominant team again. |
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Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.
There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first. So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler. Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler. Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future. Yes, there's already the talk about and a certain date that Casimero has told. But all of a sudden, there's this news from the WBO that he has to fight Butler first. We're all thinking that it's already going to be Inoue and Casimero at the end of this year but there's a quick change of expectancy from the fighter. I don't want to underestimate Butler although Casimero is really a strong fighter but no choice but to let this match happen for Casimero to move further. I believed that the Casimero vs Inoue fight news before was just all hype, yes they have a verbal argument in the public, but that's it. We didn't see any from both sides really trying to make the fight. Sean Gibbons of MP (former handler of Casimero), was also all talk, while Bob Arum keeps silent. So it was just an obvious ploy to make some noise specially for Casimero. And now he has to go to his mandatory first before getting Inoue. So what happened to the statement of Inoue? Naoya Inoue responds to Casimero’s taunts: ‘Please organize a match’
If Inoue cannot make this happen then it's really true that Bob Arum just wants to play safe. Inoue is still his cash cow and as long as Inoue will not fight a high caliber fighter, he will be able to maintain his undefeated record. |
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- Consistency/ Not quiting attitude; Always trying regardless of previous results.
I think this is not a positive mentality for me, I guess we have to be realistic all the time. If a gambler will not quit regardless of the previous result, I find it not helpful because what if you keep losing and you still have not learned or improved, continuing will only result in losing more money, and worst you'll become homeless. In gambling, the reason why I said we have to be realistic because this is not for everyone, in fact most people are losing money, without control it will only result to a bad future. Learning how to quit is very important. |
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This thread will be useful if you keep it updated, I think it's best called the summary of boxing fights posted in the forum because as to odds and prediction, everything is likely discussed on the dedicated thread. Great initiative, we can check this thread from time to time to check the history of fights, and also see the odds of the specific fight.
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In the fight of Logan vs Mayweather, there is still no official result so it's the same thing that will happen here....
I don't think so, there are already betting odds that are out this early so I expect that there's a winner in this game. If an exhibition fight does not declare any winner, it would be boring and fans will not likely support it, and if that's the case, then maybe we need to see someone get KO'd just to know who is the winner. |
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^^ If he will be present on the fight itself, then it looks like the eye operation has been healing as scheduled.
So definitely that is the fight that we are also waiting to happen for years now, Crawford vs Spence or the unification of the welterweight division. But first, Crawford needs to get over Porter here in a spectacular fashion so that Arum will have no reason not to set up the fight next.
Arum waited too long to make it happen? I think if he wants to set up a fight between Crawford and Spence, they could have already arranged it before Spence meet a car accident. I have a feeling that Bob is trying to play safe as he is not sure if Crawford would win against Spence. |
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^What happened to the post of the stadus? I think there is a malfunction in his hardware or something. Dennis Schröder continues his great game, against Cavaliers he leads the team by scoring 28 points, unfortunately, they lose in this game.
They are in control in the first 3 quarters but in the 4th quarter, Cavaliers played more defense and they got a win with only 2 point margin.
The 4th quarter score was 29-15, just one quarter and the Cavaliers were able to beat the Celtics this game.
Still, that inconsistency in defense was very evident here, 2nd time I saw a 4th quarter meltdown of the Celtics.
They gave up a big lead. That's what happened. When Rubio came in, the Cavaliers became a different team like the ghost of every great player merged with them.  Bench points and contribution, that was the big difference between them. With the Cavaliers finding Mobley as hot in the 4th quarter, they never let him sit down and let that heat produce more. He is one of the key factors they won it and then the defense of Osman from the impact of Mobley's 3 blocks at the 4th. To be honest, the Cavaliers really did surprise me this season, I thought they are still a bad team but they showed they can be a great team even without a star player. As per ranking of standing, they are now sitting at the number 4 with a 9(w) - 5 (l) record, and of course, it's also impossible for this team to sit at the top 1. https://www.nba.com/standings |
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I have recently seen a TikTok video of Mike Tyson sparring "practice fighting" and he looks great... just have a look at this Youtube video of him preparing for the fight ==> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy7s-ct-qqA I think Logan Paul is creaming his pants, because I predict a Knockout in the first round for him. After all, Mike Tyson will not want to go all the rounds to the end at his age. I just hope that Mike Tyson would still show the same strength as he was younger in this match. Just like Manny, being an older boxer has a little disadvantage because the younger player could move faster unless Tyson would show off his legendary moves. You can't compare this fight to the fight of Manny against Ugas, that was a professional fight and Ugas is a champion as well. This match is a pure exhibition match and if we look at the experience of the fighters, clearly Mike Tyson has the advantage and that fact that he is still fit now, I have a feeling that his chance of winning is higher against Logan. |
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I'd take that as a good explanation though, yes, as long as there's money involved a fighter could just act based on the script, but then again it's just our speculation now as no one has proven that there's really a script to follow.
In this fight that both are undefeated, I don't know who gets favored here based on the script, but I'll go with the favorites which is Tommy Fury.
No one knows if script do really exist, it's just an assumption since it's money making match, the talks between handlers and promoters are behind the closets, they just start to advertise the fight when everything already been arrange, who knows what are the possible arrangements that being done? Just for fun, i will follow you with Fury, he might have better advantage that's why he's been the favorite. If it's Jake Paul who is the one who arranges the fight, then it will be his script and he will be the winner in this fight. They are good actors, they can act like they hate each other just to attract the attention of the viewers and with that, they'll buy the PPV which makes this another successful fight. But with unproven scripts what will happen inside the ring is already concluded  but who's the creator of it? hahaha We can put our guess by putting our bet. |
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Going with the Bulls pick as well, tough matchup as I was initially leaning on the Nets not sure if the back to back schedule would be a huge factor but I think the Bulls have what it takes to get it done at home. I also have a small bet on the Heat since the Nuggets seem too overrated based on their recent performance (losing twice against the Grizzlies). Looks like everyone is on the same boat, how about a ride here? I guess the Bulls has a decent chance of winning here, this is the third road game of the Nets, they might be a little exhausted and the Bulls did not travel while they just continue training and home to make sure their bleeding will stop today, so yes, let's take this to the "W". |
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For MVP candidate, never miss Caruso LOL! Well, tbh I guess on the likes of Durant, Jokic, Giannis, Curry, are in that race.
IMO, Durant should be in the top 1 now being a contender in the MVP race, he is very efficient and he can make at least 30 points per game without a problem. Giannis and Jokic, they are not so consistent yet, their teams struggles a bit but Durant keeps winning for his team and getting good numbers. Yeah, who wouldn't missed Durant in the top 3 of the MVP race for this year? I don't think that Jokic can do back to back, his Denver Nuggets is not the same as last year. As for Wiggins, he is still part of the GSW, not sure why the discussion of him being traded. His points might be down a bit from last year, but still the same Wiggins for me. It's that Jordan Poole is now the new player in GSW as the second best scorer. Looks like they're getting better without Kyrie Irving? For sure we'll never miss Durant in this race he's really getting a good start this season and looks like there duo with Harden was just amazing to see. I guess Wiggins still plays his role and he's still that good at it, Poole was just having the playing time and the kid really has the bright future. The Nets have adjusted without Kyrie, and I read that Kyrie is included in the All Star ballot for this year and if he is included, maybe that's that only time we will see him play. Anyhow, as I have said, without Kyrie, Durant and Harden are taking over for the Nets. There is no more the question of chemistry between the two, they can co-exist. Let Poole enjoy the playing time in GSW, he deserves it. Wiggins is still valuable player for them even if he don't score that much. And worst thing could happen once Irving would return because he might handle the ball more like he usually do in the past. Also, if he is part of the voting and if he will be able to play, I like to assume that he is practicing with this team even though he didn't play in the actual game, so maybe he is still conditioned to play. |
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I guess this will be the end of Santos' career. Vic Manuel is a good steal for the SMB because he can work inside unlike Arwind who only shoots outside and doesn't do his low post game anymore. They really believe that TNT is a threat because TNT beat all the SMB corporation teams and they need to be better his new conference.
If the price is right santos is willing to move and accept that fate, who among us expect that Danny I who brings a lot of title to this company and he is not just a role player but the main man of the team, it's pretty normal to see players to go and be traded, the thing that I didn't expect is SMB will acquired Manuel who just traded from Phoenix. I just looking for any good information but it's really a big surprise, with him, towering inside together with Tau and JMF will be the toughest core to dominate. And with Terrence and CJ, it's a PH national against the PBA team. This is a trade, Santos has no choice but to accept it and play with Northport, I don't know when his contract will expire but at least he is required to play while his contract is still on and he has to play based on how he is expected to play. After his contract will expire, then we will know if he will be renewed or he will retire, it's just unfortunate that if he will not get renewed anymore, he cannot retire with SMB where he won multiple championships. |
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If it can be manipulated then don't bet on the favorites as manipulators will likely take the money from the public bets. So in this fight, since people think that Mike Tyson will win and the odds proved it, then probably it's good to just fade them and take Logan Paul instead, I hope my analysis makes sense.
I thought very much the same. At all bookmakers, Mike Tyson is a definite favorite, so if someone only wants to earn, they will give Logan a win. I don't like that it can happen, but the more I think about it, the more likely it seems to me. They make their own rules in exhibition matches or let's say a script of the fight, so if it's manipulated, they will have to follow it as that's the goal. Of course, we can still enjoy the fight, but if we have doubts about how it's manipulated, then maybe we just have to sit it and just enjoy the fight. My principle in sports betting is don't bet when you are not sure about your decision, as it will only result in a wild guess that is not good for business on your end. |
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