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2821  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Consolidation on: November 25, 2023, 01:25:41 PM
There are some things the OP is missing, consolidation is easy to know in the market, and this is obvious when the market is moving up and down without a definitive trend. Even as it is, some traders would still trade and make money in that condition. Now, are you saying because of consolidation, traders who have the tendency to trade and make money since their strategy permits it should miss out? I guess No. Instead of your advice, I rather advise traders to be sure of their experience in the market and trade what they know without deviations.

If you are a scalper, scalp the market well and make your money, if you are a short-term trader, do it well, and the same goes for the long-term traders. This advice is important because when the market seems to consolidate in the view of the long-term traders, the short-term traders and scalpers are making their money, and when it seems to be consolidating in the sight of the short-term traders, the scalpers are making their money. The most important thing here is for traders to know the reason why they enter the market and not just trade anyhow. Traders should mind their timeframe and plan in relation to it and not poke their noses in another person's trading style.
2822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 25, 2023, 12:29:27 PM
Though Manchester city seems way too stronger than Liverpool but anyone who watches Manchester city's match against Liverpool will understand that Manchester city always finds it difficult whenever they meet Liverpool as the both clubs almost play same pattern of more of attacking and looking from Manchester city's recent matches you will find out that their defense is too porous hence they concede so much goals.

Some of Liverpool players that got injured were back on training on Thursday thereby giving them fitness as against today's match and their presence will surely boost Liverpool's confidence in today's match against Manchester city, players like Konate, Gravenberch, Jones and Gomez are all available for Liverpool in today's match.
I hope Liverpool can give the best results in this match whatever the condition of Manchester City who find their striker in a risky condition.  However, Manchester City is still Manchester City a club that can always find a way to  get out of pressure.  For me this is the biggest  match of the season in  the Premier League it is sure to be very hot and the rhythm of the  game in the early minutes  certainly seems  to show each other ambition to quickly steal points. The two coaches will not be careless even though they have to attack the total their defense  needs to be focused  because a quick counterattack is always an effective strategy for the opponent.
I wouldn't talk down on Man City at this time, this is a club that is leading in the EPL and still has all it takes to win despite anything you can view as their challenges now. You might have had a few points if you said Pep Guardiola should be careful of Liverpool, and I would still not regard their attack of Man City so much, they are still doing just fine, and I would rather be concerned about their defence. Man City's defence is getting weaker by the day, and that could explain what happened to them when they played against Chelsea. They are now preparing to play with a better club than Chelsea, they need to be extra careful if that is what would make them yield to this advice...lol.

Good for them, Liverpool could score well if they want, but there are also times that they face their goal drought, if that's what is going to happen today, fine. Nevertheless, Liverpool will take this match seriously more than many other matches, and we all know it's a fair advantage that when a club beats a big club, it's a better point for them to relieve them of some pressure as playing with a lesser team has guaranteed winning, unlike the big ones. Regardless, I see the two clubs scoring their goals and if the defence of Liverpool is equally good and also mounts more offence on Man City, that could be an issue for Man City indeed.
2823  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have You At Any Point In Time Blame Who Taught Or Led You To Gambling? on: November 25, 2023, 12:17:23 PM
I was guilty of this when I was a teenager not on online casinos but in a popular game on Fiesta It is a color game using dice, I was introduced here by my childhood friend and I had a lot of losses with this game, I'm using my school allowance so every time I lose money I blame my childhood for leading me to this color game I do it in a fun way as if I'm just joking but deep inside I hate it whenever I lose. I struggled to fight the temptation but the excitement led me to play again and again.
How about have you at any time blamed the one that led you to gambling in your mind, or even told him face to face?
It is right to blame the person who introduced you to this mess and even right to be mad at the person too but blame yourself the more, maybe it will help you to make a change. This is why it's good to be careful of the companies we keep, and you should know that bad company corrupts good manners, and since what your friend introduced you to is not positive but negative in your life, then that friend is not a good one, at least in this context. Your life would have been better without this and the money you lost would have been prevented.

Even at that, you need to work on letting go of anything that is not good for you, and the more you grow and not stop it, the more you should rather be mad at yourself and not the person who introduced you to it because it shows you are weak in the mind. Even the person who introduced you to it could have stopped doing it entirely or not allowed himself to be pushed by it and thereby not lose money foolishly like you who let it control you in the name of fun. If it's fun you pursue, do it with the amount that is little and that does not have any bad impact on your life, it's fine, but when it has turned to wasting big money over and over again like your school fees, then it's worrisome. Still, blame yourself more and not your friend because he is not the one who actually forced you to senselessly use the money meant for other purposes for gambling even if he introduced you to the game.
2824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Question for those who loose too frequently in gambling on: November 25, 2023, 11:31:11 AM
I think the person really believes that after If you experience a big loss, there will definitely be a bigger win, so this is the factor that makes some people continue to want to place bets without caring about the size of the loss they experience because they are too obsessed with winning that will be bigger.

That is true. Many people believe that life is like zebra, black-white, good-bad, win-lose. That triggers them to place another bet, with a wish to win back a previously lost bet. And this is what destroys people, as I have seen many times that after a loss with most possible lowest odd, comes same loosing odd, even though a probability that it will happen is very low. The reason why people continue gambling after a series of losses is simple, repeated here million times and known to everyone - disability to resist greed.

The only time people lose their total bankroll is because they increase their bets to the point that it can be recovered by the remaining bankroll. Gambling is really 50-50 game which means no matter how terrible lose streak you encounter, there’s always a counter part winning streak to balance the game probability wise or else the game is rigged.

People continue to bet after losing because you will never experience winning if you stop at loss. The only problem is the bankroll management which many player failed to do that result massive loss.
Most gamblers are not just wise, they are in for the money without using their brains correctly. Imagine the gambler who has $200 as the only money he can afford to gamble with just bet the whole $200 at once. They often do this because they are senseless and particularly want to get sudden wealth through gambling. This is unfortunately not working for them and affecting them bitterly but all they could do in most cases is to cry foul. I believe that in everything we do, we should be wise and smart with it, and the smart gambler would rather have the $200 and plan better on it no matter how sure the games he is about to bet are.

Such might just divide that amount into 5 or 10 equal parts depending on the risk of the games he wants to bet. For the 10 parts, using $20 to bet per game is still a very good one, and if the person is consistent, then success would be made easily. But if the person loses, the fact that the money is not played at once would make it tough for him to lose the money easily. One mistake also will not be the end of the money, and who knows, the person might be lucky later to gain back those he had lost and the game continues like that without losing all the money easily at once.
2825  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is there still hope for the price of BTC to hit back $69k this year? on: November 25, 2023, 10:57:54 AM
If reach 69k this year - I think it's impossible. But with bitcoin, each subsequent halving cycle will have a bull run. I think there is nothing to worry about this. The upside potential of bitcoin is unlimited, the market dynamics and “internal” strength of bitcoin have since its inception become widespread. Bitcoin is a powerful tool to help the economy overcome the inflationary cycle. I believe the next bull run will see bitcoin 100k - 120k. Just hold bitcoin long enough and be patient

It's not that far off. I think we get close to 48K by years end.  but if you look at dec 2017 we moved bigly

nov 19,2017.  8,300
dec 01, 2017 10,800
dec 16, 2017 19,800

that is 1.8333 x 1 increase  dec 1 to dec 16 we are 36545 so x 1.8333 = 66999

So it is unlikely but could happen.

and 19800/8300 = 2.3855 to 1 or

2.3855 x 36545 = 87,179

so hi end could be in 67k to 87k for this year.

I do not think it will but you don't know


I wish it was such a linear calculation, but we also need to take into account that the actual amount of money needed to push the Bitcoin price from 10k to 20k is very different from pushing it from 40k to 80k if you do the calculations based on multipliers. To go back to the 70k range I think we will need enormous short-term momentum, gigantic volume and sustainability of positive sentiment for a few weeks. It would mean we would go from 720 billion to 1.5 trillion market capitalization for Bitcoin alone. That's a lot! Wink
I don't buy the idea of cycle analysis or history repeating itself to avoid making mistakes, but still, you guys are making sense, Bitcoin needs more to get to the ATH again and it is never gonna happen this year again. Although the market threatens it daily, I still believe that Bitcoin may not know $40,000 not to talk of hitting the ATH again this year. It however got to the present state of bullishness because of the ETF events. This event caused FOMO due to the anticipation of halving as well, so people started putting in money, but for how long until halving? We shouldn't also forget that the ETF's approval/rejection has been postponed till next year. So other than the already created bullish sentiment in the market, there is nothing else that can cause a strong bullish impact for Bitcoin till the end of this year, at least, no foreseeable one. What I believe would happen are temporary buying and selling intermittently, this is as traders will continue to show a lack of will for the market when it gets closer to $40,000.
2826  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hodling vs trading on: November 25, 2023, 10:06:14 AM
There are also losses in holdings if one holds altcoins without holding bitcoins. Because it can be said that Bitcoin will never be a scam but altcoins are constantly being scammed. So if one wants to hold for long term then Bitcoin is better. and  holds Bitcoin long term they definitely profit but they have to have a target to hold Bitcoin until they reach their desired profit. A long-term hold does not mean a fixed period of time like a month, two months or a year. A long-term hold means folding until the target is crossed.  So if one does not reach his desired profit even after holding for six months or one year then one should not panic then it cannot be called a long term hold either.
I would agree with you that holding any other coin other than bitcoin in long term holding has more chance of loss.  All the alternatives I have hod in my life are now many times below the investment price. At the end of the day none of these could show me any profit.  I think investing in alternative coins is only good for short term trading.  For long-term trading, it is better to choose Bitcoin with your eyes closed.  In this case, you don't have to worry much about the security of your fund, just have some fundamental knowledge.  But here too it is better to follow a DCA method to avoid risk.
Bitcoin itself also had a fair share of the fall, imagine your asset depreciating about 5 times its ATH value, that is not a good thing as well. Nonetheless, instead for me to condemn the alternative coins for Bitcoin, I would rather advise that one should not just dabble into what they do not know or understand very well, experience is the key here and smartness in investment handling would help the HODLer so well.

But first, one must get acquainted with the project they are dealing with, they must know the history of the coin/token (if not new), the founder, the community base, the objective, the usefulness in the crypto space and many more. Mind you, the project that is positive in most of those points is not a bad project per se. Yet, the person should still proceed to be speculative, and this is applicable to Bitcoin as well. You don't just entirely trust any asset to perform forever as a true investor, you have doubts and you work rightly to outsmart the doubts and what you didn't plan for. This is where speculations come from, you don't just HODL blindly, you speculate and use regular analysis to back it up. Also, you only deal with long-term speculation in this regard since it's not a short-term investment. Now, the moment you see the market deviating from the bullish trend and having a bearish reversal on the larger timeframes of the technical chart, that is the time you know you are overstaying your welcome by continuing to hold that asset.

I repeat, Bitcoin inclusive. But you may buy back when a bullish trend is reactivated.
2827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can old generation cause the habit of gambling in young generation ? on: November 25, 2023, 09:24:56 AM
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How can I stop the younger generation in my family being carried away by this and focus on other important things like studies only ?
Being concerned itself alone shows that you are reasonable and wise at the same time, older people should be sensitive and cautious about the younger ones around them, it goes a long way in inculcating good habits in them rather than being a bad influence in their lives. Good or bad, what young people start learning at an early age might be difficult to let go of when they are old, it might become part and parcel of them as it's part of their foundational life.

My advice for you is to first let these young people know the difference between gambling and gaming (casual). If it's being done without any money involved, there is nothing bad about it, it's just gaming and playing. But if money is involved, they should know that it's not a good thing for the persons of their age. Let them know only the bad side of gambling and the danger therein. But most importantly, if money is involved in any gaming activities, you older people should never let the younger ones know about it if they are not of adult age. This is applicable to both offline and offline activities.
2828  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: November 25, 2023, 08:54:12 AM
I have observed that the rich, I mean those who are financially comfortable, win more in gambling than the poor. By poor, I mean those who do not have enough to meet all their needs. I don't know the reason for this. Could it be that the rich understand financial management more? Or could it be that the rich are less desperate to win which make them make better gambling decision? I really want to know the reason for this pattern I have observed.

Because of the difference on bankroll. Rich people have a huge bankroll that gives them freedom to increase bet or play more until they win huge amount while poor has only limited bankroll which they will stop immediately once they lose enough.

This is the reason why poor shouldn't play gambling because it was intended for source of entertainment not a way to escape poverty. Bankroll is very important on gambling to stay longer until you hit your streak to profit.
This is just a misconception, gambling is meant for everybody. Who told you that the rich should gamble more, or often win more gamble than the poor? I believe the wager size is deceiving you. Both have their level playing ground, only that the poor might not be using their senses well. What I see here is that the poor should "cut their clothe according to their clothe," and they should use their brain and not be aggressive in gambling or believing they can get quick money from it. By doing this, they could probably do themselves a favour by not wasting too much money with the way they often recklessly bet without proper planning and management. I blame the poor for most of their misdeeds in gambling because of a lack of plan because I have many friends who are guilty of this. They know how to bet on sports very well but are not reasonable and calculative in their betting due to greed, they want to make more money very fast and will be permutating many games together thereby increasing the risk. So if one loses, the whole ticket has spoiled.

The poor might win more gamble than the rich but the rich would use more money to leverage on their winning. So why can' the poor be contended with what they gain also with their little money, why increase their risk in betting because of greed? And who is to be blamed for this if not them? If the rich bet with $10,000, the poor could bet with $10 if that is what they are capable of. The moment they are emotional about this and start taking more risks, that is how the problem starts.
2829  Economy / Gambling / Re: QuitGamble.com - Free Help for Problem Gamblers on: November 25, 2023, 08:20:45 AM
People tend to look for excuses when they feel guilty, so first step is to understand that it is ok to make mistakes, that you are still a human being capable of improvement and adaptation. You are not bad because you are gambling too much, you are bad if you decide to do nothing about it. Forgive yourself, move on, change and improve.
This advice is very good but the gambler must be responsible and have come to his senses before he could be thinking this way. This is actually a sign of a new birth because no matter what you tell those who are addicted to gambling, they will not yield, while many of them do not even have the sense to think about gambling too much not to mention the guilt from it. Gambling is best done responsibly and if anyone has the guilt of gambling too much, it must have been the person who is losing much or not gaining much, because I don't know anyone who will be winning in gambling and still be feeling guilty about it, guilt of what? This is why taking a break once in a while is advised for such a person, and if gambling is too good to take such a break, the person might want to limit the gambling time, this also helps.

And in case taking a break is what such would opt for, it's good to use the spare time opportunity to learn more about how to gamble to gain, and find ways to minimize losses. There are ways to manage one's portfolio while gambling through some calculations and plans, I strongly suggest that too.
2830  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is It Late To Invest In Bitcoin? on: November 25, 2023, 07:48:48 AM
Don't listen to these experts who post videos on YouTube and say they know the truth. No one knows what will happen next. I think now is a good time to decide whether you want to invest in Bitcoin or not.
I don't get my investment advice from external sources, but this is because I know how to trade and invest rightly myself. But what about those who do not know it and still want to participate? That's why I see your advice as bad. For trading, yes, one should be wary of these people unless they are teaching you how to trade. This is not hurting anyone as far as I know, only that I advise everyone to be careful and not believe that they can get to make money in trading so easily. I learned from the external sources too and there are many, and it would have been bad for me if I had disregarded all of them by then for the belief that they are all bad.

But for investment, those videos and Tweets and others could be a very good one, and there are some friends that come to me for investment advice having seen it on social media. They could have entirely missed out on this if they disregard it entirely, so one should still learn through them or continue to let what they post online be what gets them informed as this information is certainly not hurtful, and even better if one does their own research before using them.

And for Bitcoin investment, every time is the right time to invest in Bitcoin if the bull run has not happened yet. As it is now, the bull run is still being expected so no one would lose their money investing now. However, for the right price, my advice is for the person to DCA as the best price has already been missed and can't be recovered anymore till the bull run happens.
2831  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Earnings on: November 25, 2023, 07:27:52 AM
I am a newbie in bitcoin I want to learn a lot about bitcoin I want to do marketing and trading with bitcoin if any of you are expert or if someone is more skilled please give me some suggestion so that I can do something good and my future is good.  can shine through bitcoin and i can stay away from casino and gambling games and without these two means i can earn money in my life and i can work hard to earn bitcoin everyone.
I will also advice you to get your self a source of income, do not just conclude now that you can make earnings from bitcoin so fast that you will be able to depend on it. If you think bitcoin can make you to become rich so quick I think it is another kind of gambling you are just depending  on. Their good benefits you can gain from bitcoin but I would not advice you to make it all your priority at this early stage of your journey. The market of bitcoin is unpredictable because of volatility and this should not be what people needs to put all their hopes on to make money from it by all means.
Your advice is good and I can't even believe that anyone would say they want to rely on Bitcoin alone simply because is capable of earn them money. What if anything unforeseen happens? Even though Bitcoin and its investment are good, one still has to be careful and not rely on it solely, there are times that Bitcoin would have a long-term bearish trend and that could span for years. And as we all know, it's Bitcoin investment that is easy, you can be sure of earnings when you merely HODL it even as you do nothing.

But trading Bitcoin which traders rely upon when the price of the coin is falling is not easy, which is why no one should even dare to believe they can rely on Bitcoin for their only earning means, such action could be bitterly regretted. Come to think of it, I can't for any reason think about that as an able-bodied person, such speaks of laziness, but we see much of it these days where even youths wouldn't want to work but just be spending money. If the source now cut, they become desperate and result in all sorts of bad activities. So, no right-thinking person would rely on investment alone, such a person would work to be active and build a career rather than believing they would sit down always and the money would continue to flow forever.
2832  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Stop loss ? on: November 25, 2023, 06:54:26 AM
how do you use a stoploss
Stop loss is a protective trading tool that limits the risk of any trader in trading positions. It's good to use it even though some people argue that it's not necessary and could give people bad luck of getting hit while the market still goes back to the trader's position. Angry

As painful as that is, it's not happening all the time and one thing that is sure is that the stop loss is more good than evil, that's if it's evil at all. There are times it would truly save your trading account and you will be so happy, but there are times that it would save the trading account but people think it's bad because the market goes back to the direction of choice. But in honesty, in this case, the stop loss has done its part, it's the trader that should monitor the trade and act accordingly afterwards.

This is why the following points might help and we must know that nothing is perfect in trading;

1. Plan your stop loss in line with your trading strategy. You can use a fixed stop loss or varied ones depending on the strategy you use.
2. Use tight stop loss around price action and S/R level only.
3. Use a loose stop loss when you are trading long-term or when you are not monitoring the stop loss in case the market goes back after hitting it.
4. Do not leave the work alone to stop loss, monitor your trade and act according depending on the situation (enter the position back if need be).
2833  Other / Meta / Re: These degenerates don't wanna quit.. is there a way out? on: November 25, 2023, 06:36:00 AM
I've seen several hack cases and it's not even funny how a user would be up, day and night just to create a reputation and it's taken away just in a moment; apparently, it becomes a mask to this deluders - AND NOBODY FUCKING DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT??

The vulnerability of every account doesn't depend on the people behind them - it depends on the site itself...IF IT'S NOT SAFE, THEN ITS NOT WORTH DOING AT ALL!!!!! I remember a time when I thought of initiating the "secret question" and I was told it doesn't do any good, it only exposes the account the more...  what do I do then? It wouldn't be nice if this happens and my name is soiled for whatever unjust course....
I believe you see everything in here and you'll definitely see this; GIVE US 2FA THEYMOS... !!!!!
Edit: signing a massage on my with my address?? Does that help?
I don't even know the basis for this post, is it for Theymos to give us the 2FA? And you wrote all those epistles? Well, it would have made more sense to me if Bitcointalk was the place where you keep your money or other valuable assets, but unfortunately, it's not, so 2FA should be the least of your worries on this forum. Personally, I don't care about it, this is a forum and I don't use 2FA in any of the forums I participate in, that's if they exist there at all. The reason why this looks like a must is what I don't know yet.

If you like, you can continue to change your password and make it stronger and if you think you are being hacked regularly unlike others, you might want to look within your circle and be more protective of your gadgets. This is a community and everything we write is not even hidden, so I don't know where the too much concern about the 2FA is coming from.
2834  Economy / Gambling / Re: QuitGamble.com - Free Help for Problem Gamblers on: November 24, 2023, 08:47:56 PM


I think you are right, completely agree with, like we have discussed in another thread on this board or the gambling discussion board, many who came into gambling didn't do so on their own, majority started gambling because of the kind of money they saw another gambler win, or were told about it, and this made the person to decide to try out gambling since he or she will also like to win such an amount of money too.

And from my own personal experience, newbie gamblers are highly spirited, highly confident in believe that they would win, this pushes most of them to risking far more than they can afford to lose, it's only a matter of time, they will discover that winning in gambling is not as easy as they thought it was, and by this time, they come back to their sense that gambling aside being an activity that requires luck to profit, it also requires patients and open mindedness.

But this is if by this realization, such a person is not addicted yet, for the person who is addicted already, they may never come to this sense until help comes thier way.
A lot of times many of us are motivated by what we see or hear from others, and in my country,  many gamblers have been birth through promotion and advertisements people who have won large amounts from gambling and this is what has inspired many to even try gambling in the first place, but much more also, we have to agree with the fact that, having such mindset toward gambling may likely lead to frustration and possible lose that may become uncontrollable since what motivates them in the first place is the success story of another person and without putting their luck into check also, sometimes most of this forks are motivated by they friends and close pals that always put they winning to the face of the newbie which will at the end get his attention and possible trials in the long run.
This is a typical example of people who do not have their own mind, they are easily cajoled with what to see, hear or are being influenced by. But those who have their own minds, let me call it a strong mind, will be reading and hearing all those and be smiling and moving away. They will only engage in such if they want to and not because of what the influencers or advertisers say. But really, the temptation of the marketers/influencers is much and could be so irresistible, especially if the company is running promos. There are some promos that personally motivate me, but the terms and conditions attached to them often send me back to my normal self. This is why I hardly gamble with promos/bonuses, I like to use my own money so that I play with my own freedom as well.

Above all in relation to your concluding part, if anyone has a bad mindset about gambling due to advertisements and the rest thinking they lured him into it, then the person is not mature. As an adult, you are free to decide maybe you agree or decline, no one is forcing anyone, and if you agree to gamble conditions, then it's all on you, which is why you have to know what you are signing for and then try your best to gamble and win. After all, some people are still winning in gambling.
2835  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is risky, be conscious on: November 24, 2023, 07:50:51 PM
Over the time, I've seen people wanting to go into trading because they feel or think is a get rich quick scheme but get so disappointed along the process because the result they get isn't what was expected.
Trading is a very lucrative business but also a very risky business as well and as such should be done with so much caution.
What would be your advice for those wanting to trade as a newbie?
If a person plans trading for a get rich quick scheme, then I would say it is totally wrong. Because trading will never get you rich quick, making money requires a long period of time, which is not possible with trading. Investing is the best, and profitable as compared to trading which can give you good profits. Trading is risky when the market starts to be volatile, and you are more likely to lose your money. That's why stay away from trading business don't lose your money rather you invest for long term it will give you profit and less risk.
I agree with your opinion, it is important for those of us who trade to be able to learn well and it is impossible by trading that we will get rich quickly and if we understand like that, of course we will experience many failures in trading. Choosing to trade will indeed be better than trading because it has less risk than trading. If we invest consistently then we will get profits from the investments we make.
Point of correction, investing consistently in trading will never guarantee our success, the only thing that can guarantee our success is the right approach to the investment, which is where the right learning and training come in. Once a trader is well-experienced in the market, there is no way success will not be made, but this will not be an easy task, it would take time and much effort, and the resources of the trader must be included in the requirement as well. This is why I believe it's often said easily than it is in real life, some people might be trading and training at the same time for over 10 years and still not have anything reasonable to show for it. Now tell me, are they not consistent enough? But you might see other people training and doing the right thing and start making consistent money within just 2 years, so approach matters.

The truth is that many traders are just deceiving themselves with their kind of approach to trading and they would have wasted a whole lot of time before they realize it. This takes us to the source of learning, some people are not just learning correctly or do not know the right thing to learn, and this is a serious problem. However, learning is easy and makes trading better if one luckily meets the right person to guide them. That explains the two situations I narrated earlier, it's definitely easier for one than the other.
2836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can a gambler be a good bitcoin trader? on: November 24, 2023, 06:18:44 PM
Have you seen a gambler do analysis before? They are damn good in their analysis and I think if he brings this analytical skill into trading, it could be very much useful to him. There are let's of traders that are into gambling and I personally believe that whatever knowledge we have in a sector, we could apply it in another sector that is of the same or similar nature and still make the best out of it.
You seem to understand the situation very well, many would argue that trading and gambling are just two parallel lines that can never meet. But in practice, they are interrelated depending on the attitude of the person towards gambling and trading. To buttress your point, it's possible that I trade today and gamble tomorrow, I referred to both in trading. The distinction between the two is that, for the first, I followed my right trading system and plans which I know without deviation, but in the second where I gambled, I did just the opposite. This means that you can be a trader and be gambling in your trading, it depends on your sincerity in trading itself.

This is not so different from gambling itself, and some gamblers are even fairer in this context compared to how some traders behave irrationally in their trading.  This is another reason why I agree that some gamblers could be better than traders analytically simply because they are true to their gambling analysis than how some traders are true to their trading analysis.
2837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can money be saved in gambling sites? on: November 24, 2023, 05:44:12 PM
If you're hiding money from the government and mostly from your wife, this is what the other gamblers do.
I've done with it before knowing Bitcoin, but until I know how to hide it using a bitcoin wallet, I won't do it again. Because when I think about it now, hide our money on gambling site online is very risky from hacker or the owner site online. but it also depends on how much money you hide it, If only $100 or $200 that is not a problem. Maybe if we are bored, and I want to clear our mind, hide on gambling site is good, While saving dan hding it maybe we can also make it multiple from $200 to $400. There is nothing possible as far as you trust it.

hiding or saving money in any gambling site is okay depends on the amount but not recommended, like what you've said, It's very risky and there are some possibilities that your money will lose in case the gambling site has a problem and tends to close.It's okay if you keep the allocated fund for your gambling on a gambling site but not that much amount, Just save the majority of you money in reliable crypto wallet.
I'm with you on some of your points but definitely not on many of them. It's the rightest advice that you do not "Save" your money in any custodial approach for too long, it would be ill-informed if done. A gambling platform is a gaming platform, it's for business and not your bank or your wallet, you should just do your thing there by holding the funds for your gambling plan, nothing more than that. This is applicable to whether the money is big or small, your money has to be kept where it belongs unless you are using it to gamble. When it comes to keeping, there is no better place to keep it than in your bank or your wallet, but if you are a high-volume player and keep much activity with your casino, fine, but the moment you have too many funds you are not using to bet, there is nothing it's doing there anymore. I can't imagine some people crying foul after issues arise due to the liquidation of the casino or their greed. This happens to small casinos often, so one has to be wise.
2838  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Investors Confidence in Bitcoin💪 on: November 24, 2023, 05:14:41 PM
Belief in Bitcoin is personal and depends on our personal views and experiences in investing in Bitcoin. While a strong belief in Bitcoin can be a good motivation, it is also important to consider portfolio diversification. Investing in only one asset, such as Bitcoin, can increase risk. Consider considering a more balanced asset allocation and exploring various other crypto assets that can provide profit potential.
This is indeed a wise idea and I've shared similar views a lot both online and offline. First, I see no reason why people should not have that belief in Bitcoin by now, it's the number 1 cryptocurrency in the world and such an asset that has been accepted into the mainstream of the financial market. These days, you would hardly believe that Bitcoin is getting more popular than Fx trading itself. I'm not talking about the stability and the liquidity but the most talked about. Just try to study it online where cryptocurrency and Forex are being mentioned and see the most popular among the two. This means that a lot of people believe in Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, which is why they are investing in it, even at that, the investments have just started since the population of those who would invest in it in the next bull run might be thrice of those who invested in it in the last bull run.

But as much as Bitcoin and its project speak for it, it's not a safe-haven asset and neither is a holy grail approach to earning from it exists. Every investor must be well informed about the fact that some factors could crash it as well, and this crash might be a surprise to people at the time. For this, it's not a bad idea to diversify our portfolio, and in fact, it's the best. As I am, I have about 7 different sectors where I have my investments, which is why I don't like to be too sentimental about Bitcoin like many here, I reason like a neutral investor. Even within cryptocurrencies, there are projects that are good alternatives which one could buy in addition to Bitcoins.
2839  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Why Localbitcoin take this action ? on: November 24, 2023, 04:38:59 PM
As far as I know they had mentioned about some losses that they were going through while running the website .
Have you then taken your time to learn or suspect the reason for the losses and how they have come into play this much? This is not about Localbitcoins alone, some other businesses running P2P in their model went bankrupt even before them, and a few like Paxful that are left are showing signs of being stressed but the insolvent of Localbitcoins can still buy it time.

There must be a reason for the losses, a reason why they could not meet up with the business unlike before, and the only reason I suspect is the lack of much patronage like before. It's not a business as usual for them, their business model has killed the company. I can't imagine myself seeing Binance and would say it's Localbitcoins I want to deal with. That is impossible, and it's simply because of some factors like security and fees among others.
2840  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading can ruin you on: November 24, 2023, 04:12:38 PM
Every person who is going to make an investment must have some preparations in order to be able to carry out the trading or investment they are going to make, without having good preparation and continuing to invest and also trade, of course they will not be able to last long and suffer losses from what they do. I agree with your opinion by doing a lot of research before entering the market and also starting with small capital so that we can handle it well if we experience losses and we can still do it another time, with the experience we gain of course when we invest again.

Loss is also a part of trading but preparation from the very start is needed. Some people says that they have traded correctly but the market has been gone down. Even it is not the mistake of the market they mistake belongs to them because when they start their trading they have to look for the news who are coming on different social media's like twitter the most. They have to watch all these news about the market and the market condition that how would be in the next weeks or in the next months. It would definitely work for them the most.
Let me say it's obvious that you know little about trading, and no matter how much people try to rely on what they derived from social media to trade, they can't progress in their trading experience. like you sounded too, it would take time and a whole lot of effort to be successful through this approach, why then not use the time to pursue the right way of learning and trading to have the right trading understanding that would forever stick in your head?

Nevertheless, I agree with you that loss is part of trading, the way we allow it and disallow it in our trading matters to our success. In trading, it's either we lose or we gain, and since our aim is to win, we should rather find the right trading system that will make that possible and not entertain weakness due to that mindset. We should work more on the psychological and managerial part even as we strive to possess a trading system that will win more than it loses. Also for every trader, there must be a well-calculated risk and money management in the trading, and when the trading strategy itself is good, there is no way we will not be beating the losses down.
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