In other news: I just went and bought myself an S5! Woo Hoo! Was listed on Ebay for $500 w/shipping and I offered $460, not thinking he would actually go for it. To buy one from Bitmain looks to be ~$450 w/shipping and a month to get it, so I think $460 is a good price.
Good job! Is this your first foray into the mining world? No. I only started mining only a few months ago though, so I am a newbie, although I have been a computer buff since they were invented and followed on the sidelines as Crypto devoloped over the past few years. This will replace a couple S1s and use their PSUs. Got those up on the Bay and with a little luck I will actually have made money with them (barely). I also have four S3s, two of them +s. Limiting myself to one 20 amp circuit's worth-LOL. And thanks for the tip on getting the full pic. Here is what it looks like when ran through foto forensics : http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=e2cbc796cd06cabbc91a1a0af370bc8183d69941.30983&fmt=ela&size=600&i=4770545![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffotoforensics.com%2Fanalysis.php%3Fid%3De2cbc796cd06cabbc91a1a0af370bc8183d69941.30983%26fmt%3Dela&t=663&c=bFWOfJyPm_du3A) Appears to be photoshopped. So, Josh has gone from having to PS himself into a vette picture to owning Ferraris this quickly? I guess crime does pay after all. Hopefully the people getting ripped off to pay for his toys get smart and remedy that effed up situation.
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People who lost money in this should be pissed.
Sometimes things don't go as planned. Sometimes there's miscommunication between the developers and management, especially if they use overseas contractors. Sometimes issue arise, and you don't have what you thought you did.
I really thought that was what happened here until you supersluthes found the post(s) where he outlines his business plan. It was always supposed to be like this.
I was lucky enough to get my money back when XPY was inflated. People with losses should absolutely sue.
I agree. The really odd part of all of this (Well, ONE really odd part anyways ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ) is that most of the people who are digging up the truth of what is going on are not the ones who are getting ripped off. Some people posting here were in and got out whole or maybe a little better. It seems that those who bet the farm (and their childrens futures) are still stuck in the Cult Compound and are just afraid to admit that they have been had and get the Eff out of there and start doing something about it. I think that a tipping point is coming where there will be a mass revolt, but then again I thought the point at which that would happen was a week or more ago, so who knows when it will happen. Might be as long as another monthly bill cycle and people find themselves short and snap out of it. In other news: I just went and bought myself an S5! Woo Hoo! Was listed on Ebay for $500 w/shipping and I offered $460, not thinking he would actually go for it. To buy one from Bitmain looks to be ~$450 w/shipping and a month to get it, so I think $460 is a good price.
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Hmmm, somewhere I had the original image, all I can find though is the tiny one on the Myspace page. This is a non-important tangent anyways.
Carry on gentlemen.
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Needs disclaimer inside the image itself indicating the vest is 'shopped, lest the acolytes fall for the inevitable "those guys on BCT are making up 'evidence'".
That's not really evidence of anything, so I don't think a disclaimer is necessary. Something strange that I notice is that it appears that the original image posted by Josh on that Myspace page may actually be Photoshopped. Check out the black outline around himself. Is that just an artifact from shrinking or something, or is the original itself PS'D? Nah, looks like an early cell phone camera shot with a low megapixel cmos sensor. I am not an expert on this, but the image shows a blocky outline around joshes image when abstracted on the photo forensics site: http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=d48eeae7529646da4f19774cfc7c9ef128589853.44273The blocky outline says PS job to me. Not that it means anything other than maybe he was posting a PS car bragger pic back when he made the Myspace page.
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Needs disclaimer inside the image itself indicating the vest is 'shopped, lest the acolytes fall for the inevitable "those guys on BCT are making up 'evidence'".
That's not really evidence of anything, so I don't think a disclaimer is necessary. Something strange that I notice is that it appears that the original image posted by Josh on that Myspace page may actually be Photoshopped. Check out the black outline around himself. Is that just an artifact from shrinking or something, or is the original itself PS'D?
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi877.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab338%2FJaggedSteel1%2FPaycoin_Widget_MajorAward_zps55759a40.jpg&t=663&c=j2veUi-WqLnG8w) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2Fg36vr.jpg&t=663&c=BLINvjbQDUNfDA) Well, not really. He actually missed the deadline for the widget contest.
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I think they are in complete denial over there lol Well, Josh did say something about the "longest river on the world", which is De Nile.
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Josh Garza's Josq21 twitter archived here: https://archive.today/letkmP.S: Does any one have access to the actual tweets? You have to be a "follower". I don't want to hurl an insult and ask if there are any "followers of Josh " on here. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I don't get it, what's the point of this anymore? Hasn't everything we said come true? Time to kill this one and move on.
The two pages between when you posted this and right now should answer your question. The crimes are still ongoing, and uncovering proof of them is as well.
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Evidence: facebook.com/josg21
LOL
*edit.. he deleted his facebook His facebook username was josg21
He is removing all evidence.
I found an old myspace page with the name Garza and a dude beside a sports car. https://myspace.com/josg21Does anyone have access to that? I guess you have to be on his list or whatever. I already archived what you can see> https://archive.today/ONfEk
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Evidence: facebook.com/josg21
LOL
*edit.. he deleted his facebook His facebook username was josg21
He is removing all evidence.
Facebook does not actually delete it though. They openly state that they keep every speck of information ever posted, so a subpoena will bring all of that back and also the fact that he is trying to cover up what he is engaged in. Destroying or attempting to destroy evidence of a crime is not only extremely damning, it is also an additional crime.
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That thread on HT will be shoved down the memory hole real soon. PS: I archived the KNC page: https://archive.today/zGbi3When these things are uncovered we should all make sure to archive everything before posting it.
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It´s a spoof I guess. If the low price of Bitcoin wasn’t disappointing enough, r/Bitcoin had to suffer through an apology from CEO of GAW Corp and GAW Miners Josh Garza.
“While we have made mistakes, its never been to get away or take anything from anyone,” says Garza in the apology “But, I understand that, in our effort to ‘get things done’, we have a left a lot of open questions.”
*Schinnipp*
“Those bastards turned sweet innocent Mr. iPad Chain in to a pump and dump monster over night!” screamed Don Santiago at GAW Corp headquarters in the cold January rain, “I hate you!” Poor I Pad Chain (aka Famous Amos on Youtube). Now his Whatcoin is being dragged into the fray after I started mentioning him ~200? pages back:Hey guys, buy my new coin DoucheScam coin. I'll sell you a very high priced ICO and you can lock your coins into a magic wallet I sell to you that will give you 350% returns. Also backed by $100,000,000.00 fiat reserve from BIG BIG investors, but please don't sell any or I can't actually support the price at $20. Can't reveal anything because NDA, sorry chaps! You guys will buy my coin right? Only $4.00 a pop at first round ICO to special customers, then ICO round 2 is $10.00 to the public, then launch is $20!! AWESOME RIGHT?! Praise me.
I think you should contact I Pad Chain, aka "Famous Amos" and be part of the "Whatcoin" team. He has some great ideas but needs some investors to get it off the ground. Or , he could copy GAW's method and just lie about having investors of course. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIiJSn1oZ74![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstream1.gifsoup.com%2Fview4%2F4643148%2Fabbott-and-costello-o.gif&t=663&c=3FvqxJ-zWZiSnw) Abbott: "What Coin are you talking about?"
Costello: "That's right"
Abbott: "I said what coin?"
Costello: "I just told you. Whatcoin"
Abbott: "I asked you what coin are you talking about. And you said Whatcoin. What I wanna know is what coin are you talking about?"
Costello: "Exactly. Whatcoin".
Abbott: "MRRRRM!!! I asked YOU what coin!"
Costello: "Listen, I already told you. The coin I am talking about is Whatcoin." He definitely has a handle on the whole Paycoin scam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzSthEv3BagI Pad Chain: "Did we just witness a scam right in front of our face?" "I thought I was trippin"
"If Ya'll start this type of shit, this shit will never take off" I'll admit it! I am a Whatcoin secret Whale investor!!
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Paycoin, without a doubt! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Seriously though, addressing the commerce use of Bitcoin versus speculators holdng it, I am unsure what the overall effect will be on the market. At a surface level it might seem that it will drive the price down because as payment reaches the retailers they will immediately dump back into the market but it might work differently than that because if millions of people start using Bitcoin for various things (like buying sundries) this means that each one of them will have at least a small balance at any given time. This cumulative effect of many small holdings could very well be the stabilty anchor that Bitcoin needs. As has already been mentioned, things like real estate and especially rental property is the best investment. And I would add that the three things to remember about investing is diversify, diversify, and above all diversify. So rentals & real estate, some Gold&Silver (physical, not paper promises), Stock, Bonds, and a little Bitcoin makes for a pretty good mix. If any one of those takes a big hit one of the others is likely to be on the rise. If you are saying invest in a ALT coin, then damn I dont know what to say. A huge statement alone can be said what doge coin has turned out. It went in value from the start, now its utter crap. History speaks for itself. I thought the laughing emoticon followed directly by "Seriously though" would make it perfectly clear that I was joking, but it appears that my confidence in human perception was unfounded.
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Everyone should contact Amagi metals and make them aware of the paycoin scam. Sounds about right. When I was searching for a place to buy Silver&Gold with BTC I saw a lot of complaints about Amagi (On this forum as a matter of fact) relating to extremely long deliveries and overcharging, so they sound like a great partner for GAW. Edit to add in reply to honeycutts post below so as to not add another somewhat off-topic post: I have not dealt with Amagi, but when looking saw a couple of critical reviews and ended up trying Agora instead . The issues people had/have with amagi may well have been teething issues and from I read in the Amagi thread most people are satisfied. Also, is Amagi based in Europe? This may be a factor in deliveries to US customers and explain some delays. I know that Agora is based in Cheyenne. WY.
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I don't know... looks like a scam to me.
That would require the acceptance of some sort of payment of which there is none. Please make up your mind some other day. Until proven otherwise, everything is a scam to me right now. Sarcasm... out. Btw, love the GAWminers referral link in your signature. :p
I leave it in to bolster my credibility.![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi877.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab338%2FJaggedSteel1%2FCoolStoryBro_zpsltrcim76.gif&t=663&c=cf0CdPaIQkhk5w)
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I've been poking around on the "new" Paycoin site and have to assume that the Build-a-Business Challenge is going to be the "next thing" GAW rolls out to continue to prop up their scam. Josh Garza could be your personal business mentor, you could get a "major award" as well as 100K in funds (XPY, anyone?) to help you start a business on top of a ponzi scam! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2Fg1xo1.jpg&t=663&c=GGMI8vfBhjMNJw)
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