or... "I do not like what you're saying, you must be part of the 'DT Cartel'"
or... "You refused to agree with my argument, therefore you must be a minion of DT"
Unfortunately, just because someone does something that you disagree with or do not like, it does not automatically validate whatever conspiracy theory you can come up with.
As (I hope) a relatively neutral third party, I have not seen any real proof of anything approaching systematic trust "abuse" by the DT members... In fact, I've seen instances where DT members have refused to tag someone I personally thought was "guilty" of something, because they did not believe there was enough evidence.
I've also seen instances where they have tagged people on the "balance of probabilities"... where I probably would not have.
However, just because they don't do what I personally would do, is not grounds to label them as "trust abusers" or "untrustworthy" or believe there to be some larger conspiracy at work, as far as I'm concerned.
I offered to help people, suchmoon tagged me for it. read reference, read title of my thread. |
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I'm countering the rating. If you have any problems with this you can make your case but the way I see it, both users are acting a bit like children with this retaliatory feedback bullshit.
I owe you a beer Here, a known criminal owes you a beer for abusing/misusing your DT power. of course we shouldn't expect anything less from criminals. this forum is filled with them and 99.9% of people here are pussies, they fear to lose their garbage posting chances, so they wont say anything, they would keep being the little slavetards that they are just to feed their families. good on you guys. Now I see that a known criminal has merited actmyname with 8 merits, this merit source is also misusing his source merits like suchmoon. note that actmyname has no past dealing with OP, so one has to wonder, whether actmyname took some money to counter Vod's feedback? maybe this is the case with DT members?  ? they would do this just to blackmail people? |
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Sold account, email was changed recently. good job theymos for tackling these issues. would this be good if admin could disable the signature for any account with email change? this could prevent garbage posters from buying accounts just to take part in campaigns.
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I will keep bumping this forever once per week or so
I think you will cry yourself to sleep before then.  Stop trolling people, you are grown up. |
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actmyname deserve some respect... if I was DT member I should have done this too.
Nothing about respect here, he has made a huge mistake by countering Vod's feedback without having any past deals with OP. if you were a DT member you should get booted off from DT for doing this. |
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Suchmoon is an admin wannabe.
That would be a great advantage to the forum! Yeah, it would be paradise for DT members! I'll let you in on a secret: DT is not moderated. I know, that's why DT members are doing whatever they want. you need to go and merit actmyname more for misusing his DT2 power. he just gave positive trust to hide the truth from ordinary people who'd only look at the green/red paints on profiles. you seem to be a merit source as well. untrustworthy behavior IMO. @Vod, is this the person who'd be an advantage to this forum if he was an admin? lollllll. |
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I'm countering the rating. If you have any problems with this you can make your case but the way I see it, both users are acting a bit like children with this retaliatory feedback bullshit.
Lol. it seems that my trap worked. why did you counter Vod's feedback? now OP only has the look of a trustworthy person on his profile, nothing has changed in reality. Vod has abused his DT status by tagging the OP for something from the past. you are countering Vod's feedback just to hide the truth. This is the evidence I needed to tag you actmyname, thank you for giving me a valid excuse, you have had no past interactions with OP, why would you do this favor for him? because you don't know how to use DT power you are holding. this is enough for you to get kicked out from DT2. I will now tag you red for this. I could tag Vod but the reason as to why he has tagged OP is valid therefore I'd refrain from tagging Vod. |
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Then I'd suggest you to delete all of your negative feedbacks and only leave one with a reference linking to this thread. |
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Suchmoon is an admin wannabe.
That would be a great advantage to the forum! Yeah, it would be paradise for DT members! |
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I am still waiting for your answer on this: I am still waiting on your answer, why did you delete the neutral tag on me? On side note, have you contacted Blazed? I am optimistic about this case, actmyname never said that he wouldn't change the tag under any circumstances, so I am trying to reason with him. Funny how you are avoiding to answer my question. |
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you both exercised your freedom of speech. You are clueless about freedom of anything. between OP and Vod, only Vod's exercise of free speech has any meaningful weight. OP's means jack, it doesn't matter what OP says, according to DT made up rules DT members are always right and others are not. |
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Marlboroza changed his red tag on me to neutral
That is correct. Everyone knows that.but deleted that neutral after I asked actmyname to tag marlboroza for giving me a free pass according to actmyname's standard in dealing with people. right there marlboroza was trying to hide his actions from actmyname
Another conspiracy theory and blatant lie. This user continues to spread lies....You are a lier, why did you delete your neutral tag on me? |
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DT2 members need not to counter Vod's feedback, why would they do that? if they think that Vod has abused his power on DT2 they need to tag him. countering Vod's feedback without any reference as to why they are giving the OP some positive trust is misuse of the trust system. that would mean that they are favoring OP for past deeds whether good or bad.
However, since Vod has tagged the OP for something from the past, it is OK to give positive trust to OP for something that happened in the past as well. but Vod has to get tagged if they think that he has abused DT2.
Therefore, I'd like to ask a DT member to tag this OP with green trust and provide reference link back here for people to see the reason for such countering.
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Each day, you do something that makes your opinions/conclusions about the trust network and particular DT members increasingly irrelevant. Taking a look at your recently sent feedback, you are now giving people temporary feedback for various reasons. This makes me wonder why after 90-days these people would warrant a removal of that feedback; can you help me understand how exclusively 90-days of waiting makes them more trustworthy? You don't seem to understand the long-term effects of your actions; how they mould the perception of your trustworthiness in the eyes of others. How many times do I need to repeat this?
I thought once was enough, personally. We happen to disagree, but I (and presumably everyone involved) am not confused about your position so it need not be repeated. Making multiple threads about the same issue, and refusing to use your avenues of recourse simply drag the situation out longer is not helpful or efficient; you are not coming out looking good in this one, digaran. It doesn't make sense to prolong this idiotic drama. Why do you care what I do with negative trust ratings? I'm not on DT. you should question those who are on DT and are doing whatever they want. giving actmyname DT2 status and leaving him to do whatever he wants is the definition of irresponsibility. me giving them negative trust means jack for them. you seem to be dismissing this case and base your judgement only on my actions. you seem to forget that actmyname or any other DT2 members are harassing me with their default trust power. you'd dismiss their actions and would say that they have the right to tag me red as scammer, this is what it says on my profile, it says trade with extreme caution, why? I have never scammed anybody. what kind of a fucked up system is this? it allows a few selected rogue individuals to decide whether I'm trustworthy or not and their trust is visible by default, that means whatever they want should be, whatever they say is the decision of the whole community while that is not the case. I disagree and I am trying to defend myself. marlboroza changed his feedback but actmyname tagged me for the same reason. |
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We can see that at least one of the DT1 members has an alt account included on DT2
No, we can't see that. Who is that? Probably hilariousandco/hilariousetc I don't see anything wrong with this. Obviously, he trusts his alt, he's a Global Moderator for crying out loud, and now he can tag perps from his alt account too. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it as long as his alt is fair and on point with his tags. however one has to wonder, if don hilary has transparently included his alt on DT2, what makes you think that other DT1 members are not including their own alt accounts on DT2 behind our backs? |
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Bringing discussions about Yahoo (campaign manager) in this topic is not fair, I haven't seen him to abuse his DT status so far, however actmyname has.
He tagged me red for the same reason marlboroza tagged me before.
Marlboroza changed his red tag on me to neutral but deleted that neutral after I asked actmyname to tag marlboroza for giving me a free pass according to actmyname's standard in dealing with people. right there marlboroza was trying to hide his actions from actmyname and even after I posted screen shot of the neutral feedback from marlboroza on my profile, actmyname refuses to tag marlboroza. double standard. therefore actmyname shouldn't hold any power (DT) over other people.
Since 99.99% of forum members are not on DT, if this continues I'd suggest to people to avoid dealing/trusting actmyname for anything, furthermore I'd like to ask from people to avoid dealing/trusting forum administration for being indifferent on such cases. they would favor their few selected chosen DT members over thousands of people, completely centralized system-cartel-like system and we need to watch out for them.
They have given actmyname default trust power and they continue letting him to do as he pleases. however theymos has already excluded actmyname from his trust list, it means that he is not that much of an indifferent person, but Blazed (DT1) member has kept actmyname on DT2 and is letting him to do as he pleases, therefore we need to watch out for Blazed and never trust him for anything he says unless he does something about it.
I have provided my reasons as to why I think actmyname is harassing me, so if Blazed is not going to be active on this forum to see what his DT2 members are doing with the trust he has given them, he is an irresponsible individual and shouldn't hold DT1 power in this forum.
How many times do I need to repeat this? I'll repeat it until people see the truth.
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Suchmoon is an admin wannabe. have you seen his tags on me? he wants to decide who gets to have a business here and who gets red tag. Nice to see that OP thinks theymos is female. we only needed a female admin in this forum.  |
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Please report plagiarizing in the meta section in order for these criminals to get banned forever from this forum.
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It's not even misuse. It a perfectly valid theymos-endorsed use case for the trust system. It can be used to counter a potentially unfair negative rating. What a joke. so what happens if non-DT members disagree with Vod? what happens to the 99.99% of forum members who are not on DT? such decentralized system you have here. <sarcasm> |
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