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2821  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: October 13, 2023, 12:12:30 PM
Well really I agree with you, even though for example they are always firm in their decision to hide their bad habits, but I think eventually it will definitely be found out too, just like a carcass wherever you hide it will smell over time. Honestly, I am also one of the active gamblers and I always hide my bad habits from my family, but gradually when they find out that my finances are reduced, my family can already conclude that I gamble, they can guess that because the environment around me is quite active in gambling, so that's a pretty easy guess.

In addition, changes in attitude can also be an indication and we can find out from there, as we know that those who gamble will definitely change their attitude indirectly, they will be more emotional over time. So of course no matter how you hide your bad habits, eventually you will be found out too, especially by some of the people closest to you such as family. If you are still quite new to gambling then yes just a suggestion maybe it will be able to make them consider that this activity is really not profitable and there will only multiply the problems. So the point is that there is nothing better than quitting, I think that's all.
Yes, that's right, friend, we have to be firm in making decisions, even when gambling, because if we still hesitate in making decisions, the results could be in vain.
That's right, if we are surrounded by gamblers, they will easily guess whether we are gamblers or not, because they can definitely see and judge what kind of person is affected by gambling? Yes, one of them is mental changes, unstable emotions.
I agree, bro, with your suggestion that you should just stop so as not to harm yourself, but in my opinion this is very difficult to do if he is already addicted to gambling, perhaps by reducing his gambling slowly.

I agree if by assertive you mean in gambling, I mean if they have experienced several defeats or even just one defeat they should be assertive to stop, it's better than you are too late, because obviously if you are too late then you are very likely emotions will take over your mind and after that well maybe you already know what I mean, most likely what will happen is you will spend everything you have, including money and maybe borrow from some of your closest people there.

Of course, so it makes sense to say that environment has a huge influence on a person, if the environment is positive then it's good but if it's the opposite like this gambling? Well you will be carried away by the wrong association, you will say that it's natural because your environment is always like that, people around you do the same thing, that's a pretty obvious reason, when in fact it's wrong. We've already mentioned some of the effects on the person's attitude if they really are a gambler, like you said here and it's pretty easy to guess. Yes it's true, if they are already severely addicted then it's very difficult to stop, I'm sure many are asking how to overcome it, I would also probably just advise you to try it slowly.
2822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler avoiding friends after a big win. on: October 13, 2023, 11:49:26 AM
As some have already mentioned I would imagine the reason he's doing it is because so many people are hitting him up for money now that they know he has some, and in his way of just avoiding it all together, it would seem he may be blocking most people out of his life for the time being so he doesn't have to turn people down asking for loans, as it's typically not a comfortable situation. This would be my guess anyhow.

True, aside from avoiding people who ask tips from him, it is also possible that he is trying to avoid people for his own safety.  Since it was a huge amount of money, some people may be tempted and have an ill-intention towards them just to have access on the money that he won.  I cannot blame the people who think like this since there are really alot of wicked people everywhere.

It is okay to protect his wealth and his family so I think avoiding his "friends" (not mingling with them) is just a protective behavior of the guy.
There were many reasons he couldn't say why he did that. It could be that he wants to avoid people or friends who want to borrow his money or keep his winnings private from those who know him. He can also be so afraid of bad people trying to rob him that he thinks about closing himself off from people he knows. We also won't know the real reason because only he knows.

And all these reasons are normal for people who win a lot of money from gambling and it is known to people close to them. Maybe he wants to use his winnings for himself and his family.

Right and I think also maybe most of them do this because of assumptions like what you said above, they prefer to minimize, honestly I wouldn't say they are stingy but maybe many factors could be the reason, it could be because they have other payments, or for urgent needs or it could be they want to pay off their debts, the point is for their own needs. And well maybe they can also avoid people who want to borrow money, but they prefer to keep it a secret because maybe the person who wants to borrow money is not responsible enough.

Yes, everyone has different reasons why they can do that, or rather hide the winnings from the gambling results and of course that is enough reason that they think it is better to do. But in my opinion maybe it is mixed, meaning between those who are stingy and also with those who really have many other needs that become their reasons.
2823  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: October 13, 2023, 11:20:21 AM
Well it's true that usually children who are still at the age of 7 - 10 years are very happy when playing games, it's quite easy for them to understand and of course they will get pleasure there. As in general and we also may already know that minors have a very high curiosity about whatever they see, if they only see you gambling I think it won't have much effect because they won't understand what you are doing, unless you force the child to follow your gambling and teach it then it is very possible that the things that are feared will happen, even though they have a high enough curiosity but if there is nothing to encourage them then they will not enter the gambling.

Yes that's right, it's better for you to explain the bad effects that exist in this gambling rather than bringing them to do the same thing, and if you do otherwise then as we know the various negative effects they will feel, such as the downturn that many people have felt.
Yes you are right that mate minors have higher curiousity than older ones and  we can not deny the fact that once they saw a game or let say once they saw their siblings it even their father gamble then for sure out of curiosity they will try to gamble . So it's a bad habit when parents will gamble in front of their children cause for sure they will regret it in the future cause there's a chance that their children will become a gamblers.

Well basically minors are like that, they are very happy with something that can give them a sensation and a pleasant response, but it must be remembered not the sensation in gambling, but simple things that can make them smile. I think for them it is very unlikely to try gambling, logically they will not know how to gamble, how the game rotation system is there, although there is a chance of winning money but I think if they only see it it is very unlikely for them to try, although the chances are quite small for them to follow what their parents do but well you better avoid gambling around your child, the fear is that when they are very curious then often ask you and behind the scenes they might be able to find information from some social media maybe.

Lastly I think logically there is no way any parent would teach gambling to their child, even though they know that everyone has different luck but adults and children are very different in their thinking, so it's very worrying. And yeah it's best that you don't gamble in front of your children, and if you can you should also quit that activity, that's all I can think of.
2824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I can’t cope on my own. What do you think I should do? on: October 13, 2023, 10:59:26 AM
Yes if you can do that it's great, because those who are addicted will be helped a lot by some of your suggestions, but I think for those who are already addicted it might be very difficult, because as we know they have their own mindset in gambling, and obviously their perspective in seeing it is far from normal, in the sense that usually they are too excessive so that they can enter the addiction phase. So for those who are already addicted, maybe you need a lot of time or hard work so that the advice you give them can be accepted well, as you said that they can no longer be advised. It's okay if you want to advise them with the aim of helping because it's quite good, so with you I hope they will consider some of the advice you give especially in the problem of losing.

It's quite difficult but that doesn't mean it's impossible, that way maybe they will realize slowly. And well usually those gamblers who are already addicted must first feel a significant downturn before finally thinking that this is really a bad habit that only causes a lot of problems, so after they experience that I think there is a chance of awareness for them to stop.
People who are addicted to gambling may not be aware of their addiction even if their addiction becomes more severe. People around him can detect when his addiction is worsening because there may be signs that he will show to other people, but the gambler is unaware of it. This requires a response from the people closest to him to start approaching him and trying to talk to him. Maybe he has difficulty expressing or telling the story but slowly, by finding the right approach, he can start telling the story. And it will require more attention from the people around him to care about what he is experiencing and try to lend a hand to help the gambler.

By slowly and continuously looking for approaches that can make the gambler start to open up, he will realize that he is not alone and there are people around him who are always ready to help him overcome his gambling addiction problem. Usually, gamblers who are addicted to gambling have experienced significant decline so that the people around them can feel it and can immediately help them.

Yes, it is true that some of them are aware of their addiction and some are not at all, as we know that addiction is under the human consciousness so it is very natural that they are not aware of it and maybe only a small percentage are aware of it, they feel that they have done something reasonable, none other than that happens because of their wrong mindset and have been instigated by expectations that are too high in gambling. So even though for example they experience defeat it is like a very ordinary thing, even though it happens very often, and somehow when they win they are very happy. But just try if you count the number of wins and losses must be greater your defeat there.

If it is already addicted I think some advice from others will not fully help because they will remain firmly in the wrong mindset that they think is right, but there is nothing wrong with giving advice because obviously it is nothing but for their good too, some are successful but only a small percentage, and I say it depends on the level of their addiction, if it is severe it will be higher. Of course if it's true as you say, if they don't stop immediately then there will definitely be unexpected effects, but strangely they never think about it.
2825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 12, 2023, 05:34:14 PM
Man City's strength and level of dominance in the Premier League seems to be decreasing slightly this season, because there are several clubs that have performed quite well so far. The absence of Rodri and De Bruyne could actually affect the intensity of their attacks, in fact I saw that Haaland didn't have a good chance to score at all when they lost to Arsenal. De Bruyne's injury has been felt since several defeats in the league and the absence of a creative midfielder could reduce Haaland's chances of scoring goals.

Especially in the Arsenal vs Man City match, I saw that the match statistics were quite balanced. Arteta's strategy was much better by replacing several players before Man City conceded. Arsenal had several good opportunities to score, but the final finish did not meet the target so no additional goals occurred.
The absence of Rodri and De Bruyne has certainly reduced Manchester City's attacking intensity, but in the end they must not use that as an excuse for defeat. Arsenal almost wouldn't have scored if Martinelli's shot didn't hit Nathan Ake in the face. For me it was a lucky goal for Arsenal.

Manchester City basically almost took the lead if Ake or Gvardiol could have scored early in the first half, but both failed. Manchester City and Arsenal were both under pressure throughout the match as they couldn't score any goals, but in the end it was a lucky day for Arsenal.
Yes I agree with you, that they should not make the absence of their 2 key players an excuse for their recent results, because they are actually a club that has an even strength between their first and second players. It's just that maybe their strategy didn't work out, and they had to accept some negative results.
I think Pep has done an evaluation and he will certainly be prepared to make some changes. Especially in the upcoming match maybe Rodri will be able to play for them again, following his sentence has ended.
2826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 12, 2023, 05:18:34 PM
But the question is will they be able to maintain everything they have shown so far? Because I'm not just one or two times seeing clubs in Ligue 1 lose stability after they play well. That's what I still doubt about them, and actually it's not just them that I doubt, but almost all the clubs here I doubt in maintaining their consistency. I want a league that presents a more interesting competition, and interesting it is not from their inconsistency, because I see more interesting competition now because they show poor consistency.
The up and down of the performance of dark horse clubs in Ligue 1 I think are quite interesting because sometimes a club in Ligue 1 is able to be consistent in a full season   and can be troblesome but for different seasons sometimes they immediately turn into a club that is even fairly bad in terms of performance.
Last season we saw Lens whose performance improved very rapidly but this season they really messed up especially for the beginning of this season and now there is Nice which we know last season they finished in 9th place but at the moment they are showing good things and I think the possibility of them staying for stability is high but we also have to realize that this could be different for the next seasons.
Yes we can see what Lens are feeling this season, they were very good last season, but this season they have to be thrown into a position that should not see them there. What's worrying is that they are the club representing Ligue 1 in the Champions League alongside Paris Saint Germain. What becomes more interesting is when we see their performance in the Champions League which could be better, even they can beat Arsenal in their last match in the Champions League or in the second match there. It's like the inverse between them being in Ligue 1 and in the Champions League.
2827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 12, 2023, 05:03:04 PM
It would be extremely surprising if Ronaldo decided to play for one more club. I mean what club could that be? I think that he has a long-term agreement not only with Al-Nassr, but with Saudi Arabia and how he can represent the country until they will finally host the World Cup. I can't remember what the exact wording was, but I think his role as an ambassador has been discussed publicly before. Maybe I am wrong, but I think there were some talks about his long-term commitment to promoting Saudi Arabia. I am sure they offered him a retirement-like plan financially.
He is like an ambassador for the selection of Saudi Arabia as the organizer of the 2030 World Cup it seems that this can be seen when he continues to say good things about the league in which he is currently playing, but of course he will not continue playing until the announcement of the country selected for the next World Cup. because as far as I know he only has a two season contract at Al Nassr and then of course his duties will be different.
And Ronaldo moving from the Saudi Pro league to another league or club I don't think that will happen and this league will be the place where he will announce his retirement as a footballer.
Talking about Ronldo's retirement, I honestly feel a sense of loss, yes I have seen how his journey from Sporting to now being in the Arab League with Al Nassr, and in the not too distant future we will most likely hear an official announcement about him retiring.
One thing I'm waiting for is whether he's interested in staying in a football environment other than being a plyer, or if he's interested in becoming a coach, then we'll see the different roles he'll play. And that would be great to see.
2828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: October 12, 2023, 04:47:26 PM
Yes, it could very well happen when we see his name on the coaching staff list for his country. Age does not lie, even though he is still able to play, his contrbution to the game will not be the same as when he was younger and that cannot be denied. And even at his age, it's amazing that he can still contribute to the club he's playing for.
The next World Cup is the stage for the young players of today, and I'm sure there will be many new players who will get a lot of attention and then become a target for the big clubs.

The fact that he has moved out of European league tells that the retirement is very near. Usually star players devote the last 2-3 years of their career to get a good deal from some of the American or Asian clubs, so they can retire with enough savings. The same has happened with Lionel Messi, who has moved to Inter-Miami in Major League Soccer (MLS). The level of competition in MLS will obviously much lower than that in different European leagues. And this will be taken into account, when Argentina announces their squad for 2026 World Cup.
Yes his departure to the MLS is a sign that he won't be around much longer and maybe he'll announce his retirement soon, although there are no rumors of that at the moment.
This is the era of youth and young plyers should be able to compete more competitively, and indeed many young players are showing good progress at the moment. Many clubs are promoting young players, and even the price of young players is now very high for a club to bring in.
This will continu and we will see it in the next World Cup.
2829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 12, 2023, 03:57:53 PM
Yes, usually we saw PSG which are consistent but this season we see Nice which are really great at maintaining their performance. The Nice players are very solid, they already proven that because they haven't lost so far. Although Nice doesn't have a top striker, but this team have something that other teams don't have, I mean good cooperation between players. Nice can beat Monaco which is on fire, and Nice can beat PSG the strongest team in Ligue 1. Nice achievements this season are truly impressive, although it is too early to say this but I think Nice team will be difficult to beat this season.

yes, Nice this season has a better performance. they have a more solid and quite consistent game than other teams, even PSG, which tends to experience instability in the team.
I think another team that has performed impressively this season is Brest. In previous seasons they were not too dominant. but this season Brest started very well. even better than Marseille and Rennes.
the team that experienced a surprising decline I think was Lens. I don't know what's wrong with their team, but this season they started very badly. unlike last season which performed very well.
But the question is will they be able to maintain everything they have shown so far? Because I'm not just one or two times seeing clubs in Ligue 1 lose stability after they play well. That's what I still doubt about them, and actually it's not just them that I doubt, but almost all the clubs here I doubt in maintaining their consistency. I want a league that presents a more interesting competition, and interesting it is not from their inconsistency, because I see more interesting competition now because they show poor consistency.
2830  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: October 12, 2023, 02:35:26 PM

Logically right, if no one knows your gambling habit and you lose control with your finances sooner or later people around you will notice changes from your attitude, unlike if there's someone who knows what you are doing, chances that they can look at you in the manner that they care about you mentally and financially.

They can advise or provide hints that you might be exceeding and you might need rest or some time to quit away and keep yourself busy doing other things than spending most of your time in gambling.
Yes, I agree, even if someone tries to keep their gambling a secret, it will definitely be revealed one day, with changes in attitudes and life changes experienced by gamblers, meaning that what was previously good finances has changed for the worse or is in disarray, then slowly someone will think that he is a gambler. .

Yes, that's right, getting attention and care from the people closest to you by giving good advice to the gambler is very beneficial for him, so that he changes his life and can stop gambling, so that he doesn't experience any more problems in his life by doing useful activities.

Well really I agree with you, even though for example they are always firm in their decision to hide their bad habits, but I think eventually it will definitely be found out too, just like a carcass wherever you hide it will smell over time. Honestly, I am also one of the active gamblers and I always hide my bad habits from my family, but gradually when they find out that my finances are reduced, my family can already conclude that I gamble, they can guess that because the environment around me is quite active in gambling, so that's a pretty easy guess.

In addition, changes in attitude can also be an indication and we can find out from there, as we know that those who gamble will definitely change their attitude indirectly, they will be more emotional over time. So of course no matter how you hide your bad habits, eventually you will be found out too, especially by some of the people closest to you such as family. If you are still quite new to gambling then yes just a suggestion maybe it will be able to make them consider that this activity is really not profitable and there will only multiply the problems. So the point is that there is nothing better than quitting, I think that's all.
2831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler avoiding friends after a big win. on: October 12, 2023, 02:18:04 PM
The saying "Money reveal people" is quite common. I usually don't believe this phrase, and I used to imagine that friends would always have nice intentions towards one another, but I later realised that this is not true because life is full of diverse individuals, each with their own personalities and viewpoints.

It's best to never expect anything from anyone because everyone is out for themselves. This kind of behaviour is nothing new to me anymore, and whenever there are three friends, I usually anticipate one of them to have such an attitude. Why should you be surprised if it occurs amongst friends when it has even happened between blood brothers? When you put expectations on people all you will get from them disappointments so i have learned to live on my own and not expect much from people.

I believe in that saying because I experienced it before. When I had good blessings, I didn't say anything to anyone I knew; I was just surprised that he suddenly came to my house as if he smelled that I had money and was borrowing a large amount of money.

Now, if there is a gambler who got a big win in gambling, that is his right; if he suddenly avoids like that, his friends also have no right to think badly of him; instead, they should also understand his feelings; their friend won a large sum of money. As long as you are the friend of the winner, don't expect from him or think bad things.

And I think that's a pretty true saying, I'm sure most of them would admit that this is true. It's not always about winning at gambling but the point is when you have money then a lot of people will approach you including close people and even people we know only occasionally they are very likely to come to borrow money, as you said. I think that even if you don't tell anyone that you have a lot of money it won't completely prevent them from coming, there are many factors that can make them eventually find out.

I also think that it's their right, it's up to them whether or not they want to give to other people including their closest friends, but people don't want to be labeled bad and stingy by their surroundings, so if they have the intention of not giving a little money from their winnings to anyone then they prefer to hide it and not tell anyone. If they announce it but do not give pocket money at all to their friends then surely people will stay away from them because they are already known to be bad and stingy in terms of solidarity.
2832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: October 12, 2023, 01:57:00 PM
The kids may learn the gambling by staying with their parents for some months while their parents play the game.So the game can be easily learn from their parents,the parents mostly don’t deny to give their mobile phone or tablet to their children.The kids may use the account which was already login by their parents in the same device.So like this they can easily play the game using their parents help.

That was too much too think I guess. These kids don't bother with adult stuffs even they are curious with it.

What they like to do most is to only spend watching funny videos on Youtube or play games such as Minecraft, Roblux etc.

As a guardian, it's their responsibility to guide the kid if gambling concern was raised to them. There's no point on hiding it.

You already know the truth: kids at this age are too preoccupied to play Mobile Legends, Roblox, or watch YouTube. Children today, especially those aged 7 to 10, are not aware of playing gambling games like slot machines that are played on mobile phones.

Perhaps instead of just showing children how the casino appears, it would be ideal to explain to them what can happen when gambling is done improperly. This cannot be done with children since they are not yet adults; instead, they should learn about it gradually as they mature.

Well it's true that usually children who are still at the age of 7 - 10 years are very happy when playing games, it's quite easy for them to understand and of course they will get pleasure there. As in general and we also may already know that minors have a very high curiosity about whatever they see, if they only see you gambling I think it won't have much effect because they won't understand what you are doing, unless you force the child to follow your gambling and teach it then it is very possible that the things that are feared will happen, even though they have a high enough curiosity but if there is nothing to encourage them then they will not enter the gambling.

Yes that's right, it's better for you to explain the bad effects that exist in this gambling rather than bringing them to do the same thing, and if you do otherwise then as we know the various negative effects they will feel, such as the downturn that many people have felt.
2833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Learning from those who have experience on: October 12, 2023, 01:18:11 PM
Addiction is a very complicated situation that needed a serious guidelines to be followed for the Victim to get a ease and become a better person. Gambling usually is very risky and we need to make sure that we do things that would not increase our urge to bet too frequent. One of the ways to quite addiction is to have people around the patient that would take his way from gambling. Sometimes it get worsen when we always take idol with nothing to do. Being idol can make us to see the world from different angle and that alone can make us see gambling as a means to interact and get busy.
Professional help is a must when a person is already addicted, as even if the family members of the addicted have good intentions they do not really know what steps to take to help their loved ones.

And even if they spent a great deal of their time with them and they kept watch over the addicted in order to stop them if they wanted to gamble again, this only increases the dependency they have on their family, and once you leave them alone the very first thing they will do is to look for the nearest source which can satisfy their cravings.

Yes, maybe the role of a professional can help in this problem, but I don't think it will be completely influential because in essence they will be able to get the cure if they want it for something better. But the problem is that it is very difficult to be able to restore the addicted mindset to normal again, almost all of their thoughts have been instigated in gambling, their expectations are too high so that they always spin in a gambling cycle that never has a limit.

Basically, it is quite difficult to cure someone from gambling addiction, especially if it is at a high level. But that doesn't mean we have to just let it go, we still have to make efforts as the closest person to him or his family, calling those who are already professionals is pretty good, and also in my opinion they as his family should try to provide other activities to that person, just give or invite them to do other activities that are still fun but there is no risk in it,
so that slowly they will be a little distracted from the gambling mind, and well with some advice too of course.
2834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I can’t cope on my own. What do you think I should do? on: October 12, 2023, 12:45:38 PM
A lot of people don't get things until they experience them themselves, and before they get to experience something themselves whether it's a loss or anything, they will simply keep ignoring the advice and everything given by others because they think that others might be wrong and the experience might not be as what they are describing. However, at the end of the day, when they see it themselves, that is when they regret that they should have listened.

I used to stop people and advise them about gambling and the addiction and that they can't really earn money from it and will eventually lose, but after some time, I realized that it's useless and I'm wasting my time and energy on something that isn't going to give me anything. If they don't want to listen, let them face the consequences and they will eventually understand.
If you can stop people and advise them about gambling and addiction, you will help them avoid losing, especially if they don't have good self-control, which can trigger them to gamble continuously. This will be useful for them because when they are addicted to gambling, they will no longer be able to be advised by anyone. If they can be advised, it will not be easy for them to accept because they will be resistant before they finally accept it.

But if they can take advice from other people, that's good because at least they still care about themselves. They want to prevent themselves from experiencing loss and becoming addicted to gambling. That means we have really helped them to avoid problems that can arise from gambling.

Yes if you can do that it's great, because those who are addicted will be helped a lot by some of your suggestions, but I think for those who are already addicted it might be very difficult, because as we know they have their own mindset in gambling, and obviously their perspective in seeing it is far from normal, in the sense that usually they are too excessive so that they can enter the addiction phase. So for those who are already addicted, maybe you need a lot of time or hard work so that the advice you give them can be accepted well, as you said that they can no longer be advised. It's okay if you want to advise them with the aim of helping because it's quite good, so with you I hope they will consider some of the advice you give especially in the problem of losing.

It's quite difficult but that doesn't mean it's impossible, that way maybe they will realize slowly. And well usually those gamblers who are already addicted must first feel a significant downturn before finally thinking that this is really a bad habit that only causes a lot of problems, so after they experience that I think there is a chance of awareness for them to stop.
2835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 12, 2023, 11:33:46 AM
Freiburg has not had a good start this season. Currently at place 9 they expected certainly more. However, a look back shows the good development in the past years. That has now been reflected in the balance sheet. For the last financial year they increased their turnover by 52% and achieved a surplus of 16.1 million euros. The year before it was just 2 million euros. Freiburg is thus financially very well positioned and they can look optimistically into the future.
Freiburg started this season with a shaky start, they really struggled to be able to make them more consistent in winning points every game. Next week they will face Bochum, this is their chance to be able to secure full points at their own headquarters. The previous match they lost and that will affect their mentality. Bochum is not a very tough club, they are one of the clubs that are at the bottom of the current standings with only 4 points. This is a good opportunity for Freiburg, I hope they can make good use of it.
2836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 12, 2023, 11:06:19 AM
Manchester United have only Onana and Altay as the goalkeepers they could make use of. They really don't have any chance other than trying both of them and giving more chances to the one who performs better. Therefore I hope to see Altay being given some chances as well. I mean Onana is still playing the same.

While he is performing poorly I don't think it is logical to be stubborn about continuing to use him in every game. Altay has been a promising goalkeeper so far as well. In this situation I believe he deserves a chance. Let's say he played worse than Onana can take the shirt back from him.
Yes they should do that, should give their second goalkeeper more chances after Onana's poor form so far. Now the options are not many for them and they must have a firm stance on this. Erik Ten Hag has to do something to turn them around, because I haven't seen anything special from Manchester United so far.
The fact that they let David de Gea leave leaves them with little choice. But it's not good to regret everything, because what they should be thinking about is how they can get up, not necessarily quickly, but slowly but surely.
2837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 12, 2023, 10:50:18 AM
Fiorentina have been the most surprising team to me so far. Because they have made a really interesting start to the season. They have beaten a team like Napoli away by 3-1 recently as well you know. However they have problems with defending so far that's why they have conceded 11 goals in 8 games in the league.

They had better not become complacent and focus on improving their defending side. Otherwise this could lead to a really big headache in the long run. If they want to play big this season then this is their prioritized responsibility. It isn't easy to finish the season in top 4 in the end.
We'll see how far they will be able to consistently maintain their performances at the beginning of this season. Last season they finished 8th in the final standings, and now they are perched in the top 4, above last season's champions, Napoli. This will only enter week 9, so there are still many matches that will await them ahead, be it against weaker clubs or with stronger clubs.
But so far they have shown a game that can be expected to compete on the board or standings. They just need to give a few touches and also they must be able to be consistent, that is the key.
2838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 12, 2023, 10:34:34 AM

The three top European teams reportedly want to pay the clause for coach Xabi Alonso from Leverkusen and they can do it starting next summer. As we know, Xabi Alonso has often been linked with a move to Real Madrid next season as a replacement for Carlo Ancelotti and even so, other teams still have the opportunity to secure his services. From Liverpool it is possible that he will be linked because he was once a legend for that team and I think this is quite impossible because Kloop still has long prospects for Liverpool.

I think it would be very reckless if Xabi Alonso had to replace Klopp, Xabi is much more interested in becoming Madrid permanent coach after Ancelotti. Liverpool will be a little overwhelmed if they have to let go of Jurgen Klopp, who has clearly put Liverpool's game back on track. However, Xabi Alonso strong reasons are for Madrid, apart from being able to replace Ancelotti in the future, his presence at a club as big as Madrid will make him even more famous.
Xabi is close to Real Madrid, in fact he is one of the longest-serving Real Madrid plyers. I remember when Real Madrid played Atletico Madrid in the Champions League, he was one of the supporters of Real Madrid and ran down from the stands when Real Madrid scored.
He's more interested in Real Madrid, I agree with that, he's also been there for a long time and that makes it easy for him to adapt to Real Madrid's conditions. But my question is, will he have the same success as when he was a player at Real Madrid? That's a question that can be answered after he officially becomes Real Madrid coach.
2839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 12, 2023, 10:20:38 AM
Mendilibar's time has ended at Sevilla recently and Diego Alonso has been appointed to the manager position. Sevilla have started to change their manager very often in the recent times. Sampaoli, Mendilibar and now Diego Alonso... I don't believe this is a good action to take for a team.

Because the system mostly changes and the players have to adapt to the new one every time. They have to get along with the new manager as well. Rather than that I think Sevilla should have given it some time. They won the Europa League title with Mendilibar in the end.
We cannot look at a player's ability from one side only, but we must be able to see how the player contributes to the game in his club. Vini is not a player who scores goals in every game, but his play as a team contributes greatly to Real Madrid. Maybe this season he's also declined a little bit, but slowly he can also slowly find his game again and that's good for a player.
This is also a normal thing, as long as the decline is not for a long time, or in other words, the player can quickly find his game again.
2840  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: October 11, 2023, 05:31:38 PM
No. gambling about fun is better than having to make this an income. but I don't blame you for that, in fact in some conditions I have to admit that I was helped by gambling money with small wins. what I see with them is that they gamble by relying on their income from gambling. it will make us addicted, usually that's what I see.

If we win by chance, the additional money won't hurt, that's for sure. But we should never count on it. If we've won from gambling, it only means we were lucky for once, it's great, but let's not turn something great into disaster, because, as you rightly said, we can become addicted and then it may take more money than we won to  get rid of it. We should think in advance about that before planning to make more money through gambling.

Everything you say is right, we should think carefully about everything before we spend or plan to earn a lot of money here in gambling. Because gambling is not really a joke, its dangerous. It's really addictive, especially if you're thinking about making money or making it a source of income, that's wrong. You are not always lucky and we know that.

Yes I agree with that, gambling is a very bad risk, gambling can make us addicted periodically and of course the bad effects will be felt for gamblers but it varies, some think about the bad effects, some don't care at all and continue to gamble with the hope of a big win, in my own opinion this gambling can endanger the future and can even damage the future, it's almost the same as drug addiction more or less like that, even though you have a lot of money it's not good to gamble because basically gambling is just spending money in vain.

Everyone knows that if you want to make a lot of money then working hard is the way, but if you think gambling can make a lot of money it is wrong, especially by making gambling the main income, this is very bad but bad and even fatal consequences later even though there are some people who gamble just for fun more or less they have lost their money for gambling. So in conclusion, don't try it if you don't want to ruin your future.
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