When you check into it, you will find that the experiments caused the so-called randomness. So it WAS cause and effect, because the randomness wouldn't have happened without the experimenters causing it to happen. So, essentially it wasn't randomness at all.
Theological Determinism is bullshit. Newton's 3rd Law suggests otherwise. Remember, this law is a law. It isn't a theory. Everything that attempts to overcome Newton's 3rd Law is a theory or less... at least so far as we understand. Newton's 3rd law with regard to free will works something like this. Imagine that you make a free-will choice. To make this choice, almost countless numbers of electrons move in your brain. There are all kinds of additional chemical and bio-electrical stimuli at work in your brain, as well. Now, focus on one electron in a firing synapse in you brain... one of the firings that is working with your decision-making process in the free-will choice we are discussing. This electron moves because it was bumped by a different electron = cause and effect. When it moves, it runs into another electron, stalling its own motion somewhat, and causing the other electron to move = cause and effect. Your whole brain is full of actions and reactions, causes and effects, of all kinds of chemicals, that make synapses fire the way they do, and cause you to make what you think is a free-will choice one way or another. Your "free-will" choice is the effect of this causation process, and NOT free will after all. All of this cause and effect goes back to what you had for supper last night, the cup of coffee you drank this morning, the sip of water you had at your desk, the perfume that beautiful co-worker of yours is wearing, etc., because the chemicals of all these affect you in some way. And all this in influenced by multitudes of things that affected the food you ate as it was growing, the chemicals in the water, the way the perfume was distilled. And all of this was caused to be the way it was by many other things... all the way back to the Beginning when God set the cause-and-effect process up to act out the earth's future history the way it did. I agree with you that there is partial free will. But according to scientific laws that we know, there isn't any free will. And the free will that we have is something entirely different than what we think it is. Entirely different.  |
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 Hang yourself, goof. Make your mommy proud.  Is your nose really that big? When you observe all the stuff in the flat earth videos, none of it can be proven, except the fact that some wierdo's know how to explain things the wrong way, and make videos of such explanations. |
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God can manipulate cause and effect? Whaou really nice, have any example of anything in the world where cause and effect has been manipulated?
There is no direct example of this. Why not? Because cause and effect, after it is manipulated, produces a history that doesn't show any manipulation. This is one of the faith things. The Bible says that mankind has free will. Yet cause and effect as we know exists shows that there is no free will. The stickler is that the science that shows cause and effect, doesn't formally accept the idea of pure random that it would take if we had free will. Science is trying to prove pure random and free will, but the best they have is theories. The point is that if we have free will like God says, and if there is cause and effect that science says, the only way other than miracles is if God recognizes our free will, and adjusts cause and effect in the beginning to make things happen by cause and effect. God doesn't want to show Himself through miracles... except in special circumstances. This is why He goes back to adjust cause and effect in the beginning. Like you are going to understand any of this. Which means god does nothing. He already did, but he's no longer doing anything. No... it simply means that we don't recognize most of how God works and what He does technically. There are a few things that we know about God, including His existence, and that He is extremely powerful. Also, the fact that He gives us the things that He gives us, suggests that He probably has a lot of love for us. The things that we don't know about God, but that He tells us in the holy books, are things we take on faith. But it seems, in your previous post that I am quoting, that you are suddenly turning from your faith. LOL, we don't know anything about him existing or not. It's not because cause and effect exists that God is behind it. Like the dumbest people claiming that because golden ratio is in the nature pretty much everywhere it means it proves God created all those things... You are mistaken, I will explain with the example of the pool/billiards professional. Somewhere during a game of pool, a professional pool player looks at the pool balls scattered on the pool table. Then he says, "I am going to tap the cue ball, which will hit ball x, which will hit ball xx, which will hit ball xxx, which will hit ball xxxx into the corner pocket over here." Then he does it. Few people can do this on a regular basis. In the beginning of the universe (The universe had a beginning because if it didn't, all-pervading entropy would have reduced it to no complexity by now.), electron x hit electron xx, electron xx hit electron xxx, electron xxx hit electron xxxx, etc., right on down to the present, with countless numbers of hits. And electrons weren't the only thing. All sorts of atomic and sub atomic and energy waves and who-knows-what-else are there doing the same thing, from the beginning right down to the present. The result that we see today is complexity all around, and especially in the intelligence and emotion of mankind.The universe is countless numbers of times greater than the professional pool player in the complexity it has produced. When we look around in nature, we see nothing that could have caused the universe. More importantly, we see nothing that could have caused life, and especially intelligence and emotion. Yet these all exist because of cause and effect from the distant past. Whatever produced the universe, life, intelligence and emotion, must have been a great "pool player" to have set these things going in the distant past. We have no evidence of anything happening spontaneously in the universe. Many things look spontaneous, but they were really caused by something else. This means that there is no random. No random means that everything was set up to run the way it does. Whatever set the universe up to run the way it does, in the face of entropy, so that after thousands of years of cause and effect, it still produces intelligence and emotion, must have been very great, containing a vast amount of intelligence and emotion in itself, far greater than mankind. Look up the word "God" in the dictionary. There are many aspects. Often the first aspect contains wording like "the one Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe." Since there was a beginning, and since there is great pool/billiards-like cause and effect beyond understanding, and since there is intelligence and emotion, whatever caused the universe had all this in itself. None of these things happen by random accident. We have no evidence of random accident, because universal cause and effect rule random accident out. Whatever that "thing" was that caused the universe, did it according to intelligent plan, and with emotion. If it didn't, we wouldn't have intelligence and emotion. The definition of the word "God" in the dictionary fits whatever set the universe up. In fact, we cannot begin to understand how great of a God God is. Most important. You won't understand this stuff without thinking about it. And you don't have to allow yourself to understand it. But if you investigate these things thoroughly, to see if they make sense, you will find God in them. Thank you for your explanation. And you are wrong. We do know now that cause and effect isn't an absolute truth. There is a case where cause and effect doesn't work. Quantum physic showed that random is part of the universe, some experiments proved that particules can take two paths and the path is chosen completely randomly ! Determinism isn't absolute. There is a part of randomness so what you're saying is false. If you want to know more about it just look for laser path Determinism. When you check into it, you will find that the experiments caused the so-called randomness. So it WAS cause and effect, because the randomness wouldn't have happened without the experimenters causing it to happen. So, essentially it wasn't randomness at all. |
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God's biggest thing is perfection. He is perfect and requires us to be the same way. If God ever sinned, He did it perfectly. We can't even sin perfectly, to say nothing about not sinning perfectly. |
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Flat Earth theory as faulty with anomalies, and incorrect. As you mentioned with the 'hallway' things get smaller with distance. With Flat Earth theory the Sun (and Moon) should get smaller and smaller till it vanishes in the distance. The Sun doesn't; it disappears below the horizon at the same size it was when directly overhead. That's only possible with a spherical Earth. And, if the Moon and "Sun were the same size the Moon would appear much larger than the Sun during a solar eclipse and would block out the solar corona; that doesn't happen because the Sun is tremendously larger than the Moon and tremendously farther from Earth than the moon and only appears the same size due to perspective. Try to objectively analyze real data and concrete scientific and mathematical evidence for a spherical Earth at some point and you might learn something.
Fuck off. Such language! Were you born in a pig stye? |
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Too bad you aren't able to think all that well. You probably got siph from doing the things you portray in the pictures, and it is eating away at whatever little bit of brain you might have had in the first place. After all, that's all you know, isn't it? The things you portray are the things you are. |
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In the title of this thread, it would be more appropriate if you removed the colon and the space following it. |
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I think it is time to ban religion on Earth.
Religion brings war, division, ignorance, hate and it holding the progress of our civilization.
Ban people? You would have to if you banned religion. People are religious beings. Even those who say that they don't have religion, simply have a religion of non-religion. Religious writings are the source of good moral behavior for people to follow, far more than any secular writings. If you ban religion, you would also have to ban science, or your banning wouldn't be complete. Sounds like you want people to become like the picture of primitive pre-history, or maybe become like the unreasoning animals. |
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Do you know what the word "Islam" means? It means "Peace", how can you say the Islam hates people, Islam teaches brotherhood, equality and peace.
Its just the media that portrays people now, they can make you believe anything. Ever heard a news titles as "White Christian kills innocent people"? I doubt it. You think Christians or Hindus or Jews or any other religion for that matter don't have criminals or black sheeps? But media never use their religion to blame the whole of their community, but why is this the case with Muslims? Why double standards? Ever thought of that?
If you want to know about Islam why don't you study Quran? And then tell me if Islam hates people or not.
Islam is the religion. Muslims are ignorant followers, except in the case of ISIS, that is. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm |
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Some brothel workers must have children now and again. Some people were born in the slums. Some people have simply made themselves into filthy talkers. What is the cause for your potty mouth nomad13666. Or are you simply trying to prove that the earth is not flat by making people disgusted with anything that YOU have to do with? |
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I would agree with the statement in the picture. It has nothing to do with the earth being flat. Flat earth is a skewed twisting of science and psychology to produce in the mind of naive amateurs a false idea called flat earth. |
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Edwin Gray made an electric motor that used far less electricity than other electric motors. At times his motor produced more electricity than was needed to make it run. See http://free-energy.ws/edwin-gray/. Google "Edwin Gray motor." |
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When you think about what you watched and learned in the flat earth videos, you will se that flat earth is a twisting of the facts that doesn't match real science. |
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Both science and religion rely on assumptions.
No experiment/test in science can ever be truly conclusive. You can perform a test a million times and get the exact same result every time but there is absolutely no guarantee that on the million and one attempt, you'll get the expected result. Since there is no way to test something infinitely, science assumes a particular result to be true after a finite number of tests. That is why nothing in science is set in stone, theories that were once thought to be complete can still be improved upon as more tests are performed and new findings are uncovered.
Aren't you proving his point? True that science isn't set in stone. It changes to accommodate the latest findings. But religion doesn't change. People and society might change and choose to ignore one part or another of their religion. Most people certainly do. But that's it. Religion is as useless to understand and change the world now as it was in the past. Again, you're missing my point, it doesn't matter whether religion changes or not, they are both built on assumptions. Saying they are both built on assumptions and expecting that to mean "Science and religion are essentially one and the same thing and can be used interchangeably in any context" doesn't make sense. Your own description of science shows you know the attitude of science and religion when assumptions are challenged is different. Believe it or not religion is not as "useless" as a lot of modern people tend to think.
For all of its might, science has one fatal flaw (described at the end of my last comment). Mathematics, the very building block of science, breaks down when handling infinities. That's where religion steps in to fill in the gap, God being infinite and all. Science and religion complement each other., they define each other. The links I'm alluding to here are obscure but very real. Science couldn't survive without some form of religion to push against.
Don't know about that. What I see is old religious beliefs hiding where science hasn't reached yet. But it's not like religion is providing any vital information. Or directing scientific thought. It's all normal human curiosity and intelligence that can be used in a number of ways. Some more useful, some less. Science theory is not known to be fact. If it were fact, it would be science law. Often science theory is called fact by scientists and others in consensus. Things like Big Bang Theory, Black Hole Theory, E=MC 2, Theory of Evolution (which should not even be classified as a theory, because evolution has been proven mathematically impossible), etc., are not known to be fact, yet are often treated as though they are fact. What is the situation when you consider and advertise things to be factual, while at the same time you don't know that they are factual? Isn't this what religion does? Look up the definition of "religion" in all its aspects. It fits what science is doing regarding a lot of science theory. |
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Besides, if the people listened to religious morals, they wouldn't even have to experience the breaking of morals. Hmmm OK.. Is it ok to be gay in religion? Is it ok to have sex before your married? Is it ok getting tattooed? Is it ok getting remarried after getting divorced? Is it ok gossiping? Is it ok Pigging out every now and then? Is it ok women Speaking in Church? Is it ok to play American football not allowed to touch pig skin or eat it? Is it ok to pull out during sex and cum on the floor? Is it ok to masturbate? Now Badecker if you have done anything i mentioned your going to hell  Its all in your bible and more sins but i named a few crazy sins but real sins not allowed by god.. Now i bet you broke a couple?.. So now you have sinned and is going to hell what's the point in carrying on believing if you never believed in the first place?.. God told you what to do so you can have morals but you never done what god told you to do so you will burn in hell?.. Now you can say i don't believe those morals i believe in my own morals but then your in the situation your saying i am in for not believing in gods morals? The do's and don'ts in the bible do you follow them all ?..Because if you don't your going to hell  The do's and don'ts in the bible do you change them to suit yourself?..Because if you do your going to hell .. Now if i learned religions morals i think i would be a very judgemental person Now because i am not judgemental it makes my child a better person than someone religious .. So i will ask you this BADECKER have you been playing with yourself  Remember god knows and if you have your going to hell you dirty sinner Now when were both burning in hell will we feel the same pain? Now what's the difference in you and I if i pick up the bible and read it and think no i don't believe in that book it's full of lies..Then when you pick up the book and read it you change what the book tells you to do to suit yourself when it's told you what to do but you never done it.. Then you change the way it's been written are you not saying it's full of lies by changing it to suit yourself? So in the end everybody who believes the bible now is going to hell?.. So what's the point in believing in something that's going to send you to hell anyway?.. Because even you don't follow the moral codes of the bible.. Have you ever played with your willy Your going to hell if you have.. Now i have played with my willy many of times so i am fucked so i am going to hell so i think what's the point i think i will tell god to go and fuck himself .. To many do's and don'ts and that many do's and don't even god will send himself to hell because he will tell you to don't do it then later on down the page he tells you to do do it he cannot even make his mind up.. And then the things he says clearly not to do we all do it anyway even you like no playing with your willy.. so Badecker after all the bible bashing your going to hell for being a WANKER  Here is the thing you missed with the do's and don't's idea in the Bible. Originally, if a person broke one of these, that is, if a person sinned one time, it was like he sinned in all of the ways. People were made perfect. God required this perfection to be maintained. So, if they did one sin, they became imperfect. Imperfection is worthlessness in God's sight, and is even worse than worthlessness. It is disgusting, bad, shameful, and deserves utter contempt and punishment in the highest degree. Now what if there was a way that people could do one act of righteousness that would wipe out all the sins? I mean, if the doing of one sin can cause all the condemnation (of course, doing multiple sins makes things worse), why not have one act of righteousness that can restore perfection? This is what God did. God came in the form of Jesus who became man as well as God. Jesus took all the punishment for all the sins. He could take punishment because He was man, and He could take it all because He was God at the same time, and God is big enough to take it all. Since all the punishment was taken in Jesus, the payment has been made, there is no more punishment necessary. But this still wasn't the one act of righteousness that people can do to overcome their sinfulness and become perfect. So, God made believing in Jesus to be the one act of righteousness that overcomes all imperfection. Why don't we see the perfection restored in this life? Simply because of the kind of setup God made the universe to be. There are more people that have to be born into this universe and go through the process of believing the one, righteous act that will make them perfect. When the time is right, God will come and take all believers in Jesus into their new perfection. But, you have a choice to not believe in Jesus. If you don't believe in Jesus, you have not done the one righteous thing that is required to gain back your perfection. You will be destroyed with this corrupted universe. |
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You really have short legs in that picture of you there, as you talk to me. Thanks for helping to prove that flat earth is nonsense, just like you and your pictures. |
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Louisiana Officials Demand That Self-Reliant Locals Stop Surviving the Flood Without Permission Around the world, governments have recently been issuing an unsettling call for their citizens to become more self-reliant. Just this week, the governments of both Germany and Czechoslovakia warned that people should be "be prepared for the worst case possible scenario."
But here in the United States, just the opposite is happening. Our government seems to have an unquenchable thirst for cracking down on those who take responsibility for themselves. There is an abundance of evidence of this in Louisiana.
The southern state has been hit with the worst flooding in over 500 years.
While the final numbers won't be known for some time, Gov. John Bel Edwards' office has estimated 60,646 houses were damaged and 30,000 people rescued; other people escaped on their own. FEMA says 109,398 people or households have applied for housing help, and 25,000 National Flood Insurance Program claims have been filed. The American Red Cross called it the worst natural disaster since Hurricane Sandy struck New Jersey in 2012.
This massive disaster was all but ignored by the mainstream media, since it didn't fit the current agenda of divisiveness and racial tension. So what did the folks in Louisiana do?
They rolled up their sleeves and took care of business.
First, the Cajun Navy, a loosely organized group of local fishers, boaters, hunters, and guides, took it upon themselves to being rescuing people trapped by the sudden flood. Initially, the local sheriff's department was reluctant to accept the assistance, but as they became quickly overwhelmed, they realized that they were disregarding a valuable asset.
Initially, authorities in Livingston Parish didn't want private citizens headed into the water, worried amateur rescuers might end up in trouble themselves, said Layton Ricks, the parish president. But as the calls from stranded residents continued to mount — at one point, Livingston officials said they were about 150 calls behind — parish officials relented.
"Then it was like, do you have vests? Do you have insurance? Are you truly capable of doing this?" Ricks said. "And as it turned out, we couldn't have done it without those guys. They were a tremendous asset for our people."
Locals who were not affected by the flood began cooking and donating food. Others helped flood victims to begin gutting their homes so they could start to rebuild. This community in the bayou pulled together to show the world that a real emergency response begins at home, undertaken by the very people who were affected. They didn't wait around bemoaning the lack of FEMA, Red Cross, and government aid. They got to work.
They opened up their own shelters in local businesses that were not affected. They distributed immediate relief to those who were displaced. They performed their own rescues, organized the response, and used social media to coordinate their efforts.
They made just about everyone in America who heard about their efforts feel a wave of pride. In fact, they were so effective at their own free-market local disaster relief that they rendered the government's assistance all but unnecessary.
And that is when the government said, "Oh, no. We can't have that." Read more at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/08/28/louisiana-officials-demand-that-self-reliant-locals-stop-surviving-the-flood-without-permission/.
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In this Video it shows U.S. military Slaughtering Sand Fleas as they scurry and crawl through the desert like the insects that they are. Do you think this is fair of the U.S. to use such Weapons on Such primitive creatures like these? I'm not sure it's all that fun or Moral squeezing the trigger and killing these sand fleas so easily. I think this Should be looked at by the U.N. council surely there must be some kind of regulation shooting and killing such Insects that clearly have the disadvantages of inbreeding and Beastiality (Camels)for decades and centuries. Poor insects watch the video here of this senseless slaughter as i prepare a statement for the U.N. Council to review! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7tbbW9pZQkPerhaps you should go out and execute yourself for your crime of killing all those bacterium and viruses that you kill in your body through vaccination. |
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Honestly i dont hate those islam because i have a lots of islam friends here in my country they are good friends .
But there is other islam are incredibly killers but different breeds.
Muslims are supposed to be friends among each other. But according to the Koran and the Hadiths, they are NOT supposed to be friends of people of other religions. If a Muslim is a friend of non-Muslims, he is a weak Muslim. If he fights and kills people of other religions - after giving them a chance to convert to Islam - he is a strong Muslim, according to the Islamic religious writings. ISIS = strong Islam. ISIS bad, Islam bad. |
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