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2841  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 14, 2014, 06:53:36 PM


You know what's interesting? I contacted Payu about a week ago because I have an idea on how to get widespread adoption of MazaCoin to the Lakota people through free smartphones and cell phone plans via freedompop.com. In the message I sent him, I went into full detail about what his biggest barrier is (technological), and how he could contact this company to get his people using free smartphones and thus the MazaCoin Android wallet. I even mentioned to him in IRC that I sent a message to him about it, and that I hoped he would read it. He never got back to me. I have no idea what his plans are to get the MZC to the people other than what was said about the Free Lakota Bank.

I asked last night how they plan to implement the payout, and I may be mistaken, but could have sworn boxxa said they plan to have people register for it? Not sure how that would work exactly. If anyone has a chat log, it may be in there somewhere.

The phone idea could work, but is freedompop supported in their area?

To me, the logical way to do these sort of nation giveaways (not just maza) would be for community projects and perhaps small businesses. Use enough coin to provide something, get it made, then later on, use it for something else. That way you avoid the dump that will undoubtedly occur when most people get free cash (or free crypto, I should say), and get around the issue of giving it to every single individual. Since there is a trust already for maza, I'd think it make logical sense.

If the coin sinks enough, perhaps that is the way they'd have to go.

1000 maza ... here is your $1-$5, and please buy a $50 phone so you can use it.
Or just bundle it up into higher amounts, and do something for the community.
2842  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VLT] ★Vaultcoin★Open Your Crypto Vault★Scrypt★KGW★CLIENT UPDATE★ on: March 14, 2014, 06:20:02 PM
Possibly interesting... reasonable amount of max coins, which is nice to see.
2843  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 14, 2014, 06:06:24 PM
so when are they  distributing the 1000 mzc to the ppl?

at current rate that comes out to $5 each resident

maybe they need give more than 1000mzc to make a difference..



Don't know, but expect it'll be a while. Little point until the price is higher. And they are sort of limited to whatever the premine total is as to what they give away, I expect. They can't just make up a big number, as they won't have enough coins to cover it. Which is why I found it so odd that they weren't more concerned about the price.
2844  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 14, 2014, 05:56:49 PM
Hmm... down again. It'd be nice to one day check the price and see it has gone up for a change.

I believe Payu did say he had a radio spot today, and might get a chief to come out and support the coin, although wouldn't mention his name for fear of trolling against said chief. If they promote this somewhere, besides some random youtube video that most won't see, it could help. They really need a better website/blog and a person over here keeping people updated.

A fork is needed to reduce miner rewards, but boxxa seemed against that. No idea why. One weird thing I noticed in chat last night was when boxxa was asked if he kept track of the price -- Boxxa claimed he had a lot of coins, but didn't worry about the price.  My first thought was: who cares how many coins you hold,the idea should be that the creators of the coin want to support a high price, so the premine isn't a complete waste.

It sort of felt like Boxxa and Payu weren't exactly in sync, or at least didn't communicate nearly enough. Again, just the impression I got, and I could be completely wrong.
2845  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 14, 2014, 05:10:47 AM

I'm sorry, seeing them calling him Sir Payu made the bile rise in my throat - nothing that he says adds-up.

I wouldn't nearly go that far. My impression is that he's a little over his head right now, and things moved faster than he expected. I'm also not sure how great he is with the technical side of cryptos, mining or what boxxa is doing exactly. He needs to coordinate better, get a pr person, and keep people informed.

I had a much bigger problem with Boxxa than I did with Payu.
2846  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 14, 2014, 05:03:50 AM
Can I please get unbanned from the irc chat room? I'm heavily invested in this coin and would like to know what's going on.

I was asking questions related to mining and got banned?

No, they don't like questions in there, just unfettered sycophancy.....

Says the man obsessed with t-shirts...

As for being banned for mining questions, no idea what you said to get banned. I asked several times about mining/rewards and other stuff, and had no problems. Asked the same to Boxxa too.
2847  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 14, 2014, 04:36:21 AM
Well, Payu definitely handled himself better than Boxxa did. I almost understand their reluctance to do forum stuff, with so many trolls in chat.

He did mention a radio spot tomorrow, which may be interesting.

I do think that he and Boxxa need to communicate more often, as it sort of feels like Payu is over his head a bit (or just not following) all the crypto things he should be watching.
2848  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 14, 2014, 03:52:22 AM
The link to the chat?

#mazacoin on irc

Unfortunately Payu isn't really answering the questions that matter, at least from what I have seen so far.
2849  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 14, 2014, 03:31:45 AM
so basically boxxa laughed it off and said screw the traders...
hes not coming into the forum for any support at all...
fork or changes in diff or algo is out of the question....

not building much confidence......

i was thinking long term hold....because of the idea of the coin and the devs..
now the devs are laughing about cookies....
so i have lost 50% of my confidence

i will no longer defend the devs going forward....

this is horrible  management....

if ppl want to bail and take there losses i wont ask you to hold any longer.....

when ppl spread fud i wil no longer defend.....

good luck gentleman


I mostly agree, although think the fud is a waste of time here. There are real concerns we could discuss instead -- no need for troll craziness.

The biggest surprise I got was the lack of maturity in the dev. Okay, if he said he could only post here once in a while, or Payu's job was to post here, not his ... I'd understand that. But he basically acted like he was 12 years old.

Most of the other answers, such as how to distribute the coin, upcoming news, tribal issues, were rather vague. I left after cookies came up ... did anything positive get discussed afterwards? I assume no?
2850  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 14, 2014, 03:13:31 AM
Okay, enough of chat for me. I left after the dev started talking about cookies. I can't say the little conversation exactly filled me with confidence.

And for whatever reason, they don't wish to post here in the forums, it seems.

They do post here on forums just that with 6-7 troll accounts created in the past 1-3 months.

Suggestion, please post less, and less crazy? There are certainly some real concerns we can discuss, rather than some random facebook pages, or that 'some guy' messaged you some incriminating news or info about Payu that you don't like.

And yeah, you even brought up join dates (including mine) in your other thread, seeing shills and trolls everywhere. Try to take your crazy pills and discuss things rationally?
2851  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 14, 2014, 02:54:35 AM
Okay, enough of chat for me. I left after the dev started talking about cookies. I can't say the little conversation exactly filled me with confidence.

And for whatever reason, they don't wish to post here in the forums, it seems.
2852  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 14, 2014, 02:25:25 AM
This is a reply by one of the devs to some questions from investors on chat just now:

boxxa:
omg waaaaaa
i want SEC filings and answers for every dream i have
waaaa
waaaaaaaaa 

Investors take note.

Yeah, I saw that. I'm anonymouse .... disappointing chat so far.
2853  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 14, 2014, 01:52:44 AM


Forget food pantrys and the like, they can be polarising, a lot of people resent handouts to adults.

Publicity is in sex, animals and children - in that order.

I am sure there are plenty of poor children that could benefit from a food pantry. It doesn't just have to be for adults.

And I look at it from the perspective of actually helping someone, not what gets the most publicity. The point to maza shouldn't be to just drum up interest/newspaper articles, but to actually help someone.

But it will never help anyone if the price doesn't go up, and quickly.

EAC started with similar intentions and had a better, safer start than Maza, but it is now on the floor because people couldn't be realistic and pragmatic about it's future.

And how is a playground not helping someone?

Anyway, you've all got hung-up on it being a playground, it was only a suggestion, so what do you suggest?

Well, a playground is fine, assuming the people playing there have enough food to eat. Yeah, from a publicity standpoint, a playground would work. And no need to get hung up on it, I just meant a community project or two would be a lot easier than handing out maza to each individual.

As for EAC, I believe their main problem started because one of the key developers backed out and dumped his entire premine (or at least that is the rumor). Then they went into a death spiral.
2854  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 14, 2014, 01:42:53 AM


Forget food pantrys and the like, they can be polarising, a lot of people resent handouts to adults.

Publicity is in sex, animals and children - in that order.

I am sure there are plenty of poor children that could benefit from a food pantry. It doesn't just have to be for adults.

And I look at it from the perspective of actually helping someone, not what gets the most publicity. The point to maza shouldn't be to just drum up interest/newspaper articles, but to actually help someone.
2855  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 14, 2014, 01:18:11 AM
Is there no mileage in providing infrastructure for the Lakota from the premine?

A free playground, for instance, with lots of smiley, happy photos of kids in newspapers and websites?


This is what I sort of assumed they originally planned to do with the premine. Not a playground, but something related to community service -- food pantry, some funds for small businesses, that sort of thing. Basically use the premine for something the group could use, rather than give each individual 1000 maza. It's so much more problematic to hand out crypto to every single person, and it doesn't help if the people don't know what crypto is nor have a way to use it.

The thing that bugs me the most is the fact that the developers won't post here. I mean, people spent like 3 days fighting off FUD (and I mean real FUD, not just normal concerns) --the android artifact thing, Herp going insane, etc. and yet nobody from the maza team would say a word here in the forums.

That, and then I saw the MZC water challenge  on youtube (my basic reaction to it was wtf)...
I realize many here may want Payu to go jump in a lake at this point, but I'd think he could use his time much more wisely to help the coin.

I don't think maza is a scam. I just question whether the developers have any idea what they are doing.
2856  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 09:09:51 PM
I have 1000 MZC. Bought half at its high and the other half on the lower end. Holding until the value of the coin reaches fruition or drops to zero.

About the same for me, a bit less, around 800 MZC. I thought I was being smart averaging it out, but now I wish I just took the loss and sold at around 2500ish or so the other day. It's not very much money, so no biggy, but I'm a small guppy sized trader and I would have liked to used the coins for something else, if I knew it'd tank like this.

Payu really needs to get on here, chat with people, and get this coin moving in the right direction. The way things are going, he'll hand out 1000 maza ( which may be worth like a $1 to people) -- won't help very much. The videos and whatever are fine, but I'm not so sure he and the devs actually know how cryptos work.

I watched a maza promo video of him jumping into a lake the other day, on youtube. No idea why... nor why he felt that was worth his time more-so than stopping in here briefly.
2857  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | No Premine | 50% cooler/50% less wattage than scryp on: March 13, 2014, 09:03:08 PM

Surprised no one has said Dark Matter - the thing that holds the universe together.

Dark Matter would seem to make more sense than other names.

2858  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bittrex.com giveaways for 3/10/15 on: March 13, 2014, 06:17:55 PM
Received the 1000 Mint for the deposit address, but not the 5000 twitter or 10000 for trading yet.

Hi, we'll be crediting the 10000 for trades later this afternoon.  This got delayed but it will be paid out with the last of our MINT coins.  We had a lot of wallets open up for MINT and wanted to get those out first.

BTW, I haven't seen any tweets so I'm not sure what happened.  I'll spend sometime searching twitter to see what's going on. 

Got the 10K mint, thanks!

Still waiting on the twitter mint, but guess that may take longer to find.
2859  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 13, 2014, 12:35:56 AM
something like this would be ideal, but i'm not going to rip-off someones art.

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/804295/117881275/stock-photo-indian-buffalo-head-drawing-117881275.jpg

Can anyone produce a line drawing similar?

Rather than reinvent the wheel, or in this case, the buffalo, why not just ask payu if he'd prefer the shutterstock buffalo instead? If so, ask to be reimbursed in maza or something, as I think it's $29 for the image (if the standard license is good enough). If not, it's a bit pricey at $200.
2860  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 12, 2014, 08:29:32 PM
we had a re hard time even trying to carry a conversation with payu and the devs cuz of
herp he kept spamming nonstop and payu got carried a way with  him.

discussion were had about having like a burning man with a maza theme
and ideas about going on different radio shows to spread more information about the movement

but noone brought up the fact that maza is diving.

the devs need to be here to gameplan now while we have still some worth.

if not it will be too late when this hits the gutters.

maza has plenty of news coverage and hype this good

but it has been a financial disaster.

the priority now should be to strengthen the coin

please can we all pressure the devs to interact with us the incvestor community or lose all support

im really afraid this coin will end up like mooncoin


I wouldn't worry so much about maza becoming mooncoin. Mooncoin had a developer who couldn't even code their wallets properly, and no actual plan to use the coin. It was basically dead on arrival, got one big pump and dump ... and sunk again.

But the danger is digging a hole that takes forever to dig out of. The coin needs to stabilize around a price, be that 3K, 5K or whatever ... and then it can grow from there.

I missed the chat with payu, but it's nutty if herp was over there spamming too. He must be being paid for this, or is truly insane.
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