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2841  Other / Off-topic / Re: Let's Count to 21 Million with Images on: February 16, 2013, 11:12:13 AM
ajkane you dodo bird, you need to learn how to count. If you can't do that, match the # to the same as that of your post # in this thread.  You did 4256 instead of 4246, and consequently the guy after messed up too  Sad

The two of you get a time out after you fix those pics!

Anywho, back on track...



2842  Economy / Computer hardware / WTS 2 Intel E3200 CPU, E2200 Socket 775 CPUs, Molex --> PCIe 6pin power cables on: February 16, 2013, 07:37:13 AM
I've got some socket 775 CPUs I've been meaning to get rid of.  I have to check the functionality of the E2200 since it's coming off a mining rig where the Mobo called it quits after 1.5 years (my first mining causualty  Cry)

(2) Intel E3200 Retail boxed CPU (have OEM Intel heatsinks and manual and all the crap) - 1.1 BTC each shipped USPS Priority w/ DC in US.
(1) Intel E2200 Retail boxed CPU (have OEM Intel heatsinks and manual and all the crap) - 1.1 BTC shipped USPS Priority w/ DC in US.

Also have a bunch of new Molex --> 6 pin PCIe cables - 0.1BTC each + shipping (shipping depending on quantity)

Have a bunch of new Crucial Ballistix DDR2 I need to inventory and then list.

2843  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTS (2) Farcry 3 Keys on: February 16, 2013, 07:24:20 AM
Dropped the price - don't want to take them to eBay  Cheesy
2844  Other / Off-topic / Re: Let's Count to 21 Million with Images on: February 16, 2013, 07:02:39 AM
2845  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: gtx 460 (768mb) profitability in mining TODAY on: February 16, 2013, 06:58:10 AM
I am trying out on my laptop first because its a hd 5730. I downloaded latest drivers but the gui miner says I need the SDK drivers. on this site it doesn't list that its compatible with win 7 or my card. is it possible to min with my card on win 7?

http://developer.amd.com/resources/archive/archived-tools/gpu-tools-archive/ati-stream-software-development-kit-sdk-v1-4-beta/

DO NOT mine on your laptop unless you purposefully want to kill it.  I have a laptop with a 5730 too and I have never bothered to even try it.  A cheap 5830 or 6870 will set you back $100 or less and will mine 5x as fast.  If you kill the display in your laptop that laptop will be worth $20 for parts.
2846  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Will asics decrease transaction times? on: February 16, 2013, 06:44:05 AM
Transaction time are dependent on how many blocks pass through the network.  If we get a run off good luck more block pass, bad luck less pass.  If the network is rapidly expanding (when the first ASIC come online) then blocks will pass by faster and difficulty adjust every 2016 blocks.  Once a fair number of ASICs are out it will be the same as it is right now with GPUs.

Forking is another subject entirely...
2847  Other / Off-topic / Re: Let's Count to 21 Million with Images on: February 16, 2013, 06:31:57 AM
2848  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin rebrand on: February 16, 2013, 06:27:36 AM
That's no rebranding...



Transaction fees are paid in Bratz dolls
2849  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much is "a lot" of bitcoin? on: February 16, 2013, 06:24:43 AM
It's disheartening to get into bitcoin so late in the game. With ASICs coming out, it's completely unrealistic for anyone to try to get into mining.
Users with over 1k coins, and over 100k coins are the same users that got into the ASIC market when it was first announced.
It's turning out to be just like all other money in the world with the majority of it being controlled by the top few players.

Uh, the people with 100K plus coins have no use for ASICs.  Even if they dropped $100K USD they couldn't even mine 1k coins a month when difficult skyrockets.

There were a LOT of people who mined thousands of coins in the beginning when difficulty was low and mining was more of a concept than an economy.  Lot of these people destroyed their wallets when the formatted their drives or just removed Bitcoin from their machines.

Aren't people going to be jealous 5 years from now trying to make 5 Satoshi when you were mining 0.05 BTC a day on a 6950 or something.

The point of mining is not to make $ (that's a secondary goal), it's to strengthen Bitcoin.  You could have 21 million BTC but if nobody wants to use it as a currency it's worth less than a pile of dog poo. If you believe in Bitcoin buy some coins now and use it. Otherwise yes, you just missed another get rich quick scheme.
2850  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much is "a lot" of bitcoin? on: February 16, 2013, 06:06:48 AM
Yeah >1000 is good.  If you have 1k you're holding about 0.01% of all the BTC ever mined.  There are a few users with > 100K coins.
2851  Economy / Services / Re: Medical Consult for Bitcoins on: February 15, 2013, 10:57:14 PM
So I was looking to get some rep in the trading community and realized I didn't feel like doing loans.  I have pretty good Heatware but wanted to build up a rep with the Bitcoin community.  I guess I'll just have to use my professional skills... so since I am a licensed and practicing medical physician in the state of California I decided I could help with medical questions.  I'll do a trial where all the proceeds would go to my medical missions which I do once or twice a year.  I am currently practicing only with inpatient medicine so if you got a detailed dermatology question about a rash or itch down there I probably won't be able to help too much (please don't send me pics lol).  I did 1 year of urgent care so I can answer most basic outpatient stuff (sprains, headaches, flu vs bacterial illness, heartburn, etc) and I can answer pretty much any internal medicine related question.

So I thought of asking tips from 0.1 BTC to 5 BTC depending on what you think is the complexity of the problem - the link is in my sig.  If you're not sure how complicated it is, just send a small amount and you can always tip more afterwards if I give you a good answer.  For legal purposes obviously without a physical exam my answers are not the same as seeing a physician in office so my advice is just that - advice.  You will need to confirm with your doc if your doc if you're going to be doing something that requires prescription medication or changes in lifestyle.

So just send me a PM with your question and let me know your address so I know if you donated.  If you happen to live in the SoCal area and would like to help out on a medical mission let me know.  I've been to mundane places like India and exotic lands like Miami, FL with my medical missions Grin

Oh hey, just like "medical consults" over the phone only better. Do you do gyn exams? I'm due.

No Gyn exams.  Haven't done one for 6 years and not planning on pick that up again.

So far we have:
FP/IM (me)
Radiologist in residency (bg002h)
Orthopaedic Surgeon (aarashd)
General or vascular Surgeon (CA Coins - not sure what type of surgeon exactly)
2852  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Avalon ASIC] Batch #2 pre-Sale Thread on: February 15, 2013, 09:37:16 PM
I find it amusing how everyone is bitching about efficiency when everyone here is still mining on GPU. I'm still running 20GH of GPU and it pulls a good 10 KW at least, not counting cooling. 10KW of ASIC, even a inefficient "first gen prototype" like what we have right now would be greater than the whole bitcoin network as it was pre asic ~13.5 TH.

 Huh
2853  Other / Off-topic / Re: Crazy thread: The quarantine on this planet has been lifted. on: February 15, 2013, 11:42:42 AM
Within the next few decades, extraterrestrial life will become the norm. I have consistent sources I know to be reliable in regards to this. Our governments will fall. Enlightenment will ensue on a level that we cannot currently imagine.

I am putting this here for the record just so I can be considered cool when it happens.

Feel free to speak into the sky using your mind. Just pretend you are broadcasting a message everywhere. Given enough time and if you ask to see UFOs, you will see them. They are waiting for the right moment to reveal the truth.

Will they organise a music festival when they arrive?

They'll be from Vega, and they'll play this music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGyq7d62oPQ

My fav movie opening
2854  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: When will we get a network hashrate of 1 petahash/s? on: February 15, 2013, 10:44:08 AM
After 200, 300 or 400TH the possibility of breaking even on ASICs becomes a longshot projection (a 4 year ROI may never materialize).  So either ASIC technology will need to advance significantly (ie 2 or 3 fold more power per same cost) or the price of Bitcoin would have to go up to make it feasible.  If BTC valuation is going to go up, it would be just easier to buy coins and sit on em.

I can't see Petahash happening this year

I'm not sure how you are doing your calculations. From my calculations, ROI is much better.
Using http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator

Let's take the SC Mini Rig as an example, and assume their specs are correct.
$30,000, 1.5 thash/s, 1500 Watts

With the current difficulty of 3275464 and network hashrate of 23.4 thash/s, 1.5 thash/s produces 230 btc/day and uses 36 kWh/day, which costs $10.80 (if electricity costs 30 cents). At current exchange rate of $27/btc, you'd make $6200/day. ROI = 5 days!

If difficulty is 10 times of today (i.e. 234 thahs/s network hashrate), you'd still make 23 btc/day, which is $610/day after subtracting electricity. ROI = 1.6 months!

If difficulty is 50 times of today (i.e. 1.17 phash/s network hashrate), you'd make 4.6 btc/day, which is $114/day after subtracting electricity. ROI = 8.7 months

This calculation assumes that btc/$ doesn't change and difficulty doesn't change, but you get the picture. No where near as bad as you claimed.

What I meant was that those people receiving ASICs after BFL delivers batch 1 and Avalon has Batch 2 out (this is just 1 month away) will have a long time to wait.  Anybody who orders today will have to calculate ROI with the 500TH difficulty because it's not like you can go back in a time machine and preorder.  Those who got in line early know they'll make there money back.  Garzik has already paid his off after 10 days and is now in pure profit on the "inefficient" Avalon ASIC.  

You cherrypicked the best possible outcome (BFL's best equipment and the company with the most efficient ASIC).  The SC Single get a little less Hash/$ and Hash/W - the jalapeno even moreso.  I throw the minirig out since anybody buying $30k mining equipment is a whale for all intent and purposes- it's not the casual miner.  At 500TH the Avalon's electricity usage becomes a significant factor into profit margins.  If somebody tries to order an Avalon in Batch 3 with 66GH/s and the difficulty is around 500TH because BFL has shipped Batch 2 - you think that buyer will see ROI in under a year?  2 years?  4 years?

Yes the early adopters are all essentially becoming mini Art-Forzes and getting their piece of the BTC pie.  They'll have their eq paid off in no time. I think any orders popping out after 500TH might be kinda screwed.  The big uncertainty is how many real orders and chips does BFL have lined up since they are the 800 lb gorilla.  If they only have 300TH then it might be reasonable to buy.  If they have 600TH lined up, I'de rather throw $ at BTC and maybe pick up a "quitter" ASIC 6 months from now.

My electricity at home with SCE is over $36c (generation and delivery) BTW, and if I'm using an Avalon 24/7 it would go over $48c/KWh.  Yet I still tried to get batch 1 and 2 of Avalon knowing initally power costs are negligible.

And Europeans think they got it bad - nobody bends you over like Jerry Brown and the fucked up socialist state of Kalifornia.
2855  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTS (2) Farcry 3 Keys on: February 15, 2013, 05:44:18 AM
Still have these if anybody is interested.
2856  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: gtx 460 (768mb) profitability in mining TODAY on: February 15, 2013, 05:42:33 AM
Okay, so if I ran dual AMD cards in Crossfire mode, would that work?  Or was I reading right on another thread that each card had to have a monitor?

Crossfire generally complicates mining but yes you can mine in crossfire if you're gaming in between.  You only need to hook up a monitor or dummy plug if you're using certain driver versions with certain cards.  Don't always use the newest drivers.  The newer drives have components in them - not going to go into detail - that actually kill performance on older cards such as the 5970s.

You can mine with GUIMiner if you don't like using command prompt at all, but spending 30 minutes learning how to use CGMiner is worth the time spent 20x over any other tweaks.
2857  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [5000 GH] BTC Guild - PPS, PPLNS with TxFees+Orphans, Stratum+Vardiff ASIC Ready on: February 15, 2013, 03:38:57 AM
For those negative nancies like myself, would it be possible to start getting information like this put somewhere on the PPLNS Shift History page? I think it might get more people to stick with PPLNS through the phases of bad luck if they had some stats they could look at that verified the average yield of blocks per shift. Putting it simply, that information you just posted about the last 90 Matured sprints, I don't have access to (unless I were to track it myself and do the math myself, all of which I don't have time for).

I'm looking into it.  I actually calculated it by copy & pasting the table into excel and selecting the Block/Per Share columns to autosum/average Smiley.


EDIT/UPDATE:  I've added the last 100-matured shifts per-share rate above the PPLNS Shift History table.  This number is somewhat unreliable for comparison after a difficulty change.

Awesome!

Will this update every completed shift or is this just manual labor on your part?

It's automatically calculated every time a shift completes.

Everybody who saw the nice run of luck since 01/20/13 can thank me.  I tried PPLNS since inception here and was getting the crappiest luck ever (even worse than that 2 month streak BTCG had 2 years ago).  The most I ever saw was 1 17 block shift and a few 14s, and I even caught a 0.  I leave and kept checking every day just to confirm my suspicions.  Yep 21s nonstop and close to 140% PPS rate for about the last 3 weeks.  I'll say it again... Damn you lady lucky!

I should be paid to modify a pools luck one way or another LMAO  Grin Huh  Undecided  Cry
2858  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: When will we get a network hashrate of 1 petahash/s? on: February 15, 2013, 03:30:17 AM
After 200, 300 or 400TH the possibility of breaking even on ASICs becomes a longshot projection (a 4 year ROI may never materialize).  So either ASIC technology will need to advance significantly (ie 2 or 3 fold more power per same cost) or the price of Bitcoin would have to go up to make it feasible.  If BTC valuation is going to go up, it would be just easier to buy coins and sit on em.

I can't see Petahash happening this year
2859  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [FT] 1oz 99.999 gold->BFL BitForce Single SC preorder dating up to Aug 2012 on: February 14, 2013, 06:18:07 PM
I'll do a first hour order for 5 Oz.
2860  Economy / Services / Re: Medical Consult for Bitcoins on: February 14, 2013, 12:45:54 PM
Still doing consults.  If you have questions on labwork or primary care/internal medicine stuff just PM me.
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