I get your point but even you know/are aware of the fact he probably will never get his account back just like everybody else who have been waiting for months. I suggested starting out with a fresh account since account sales are not encouraged on the forum and he may lose his account and money if ever found out. And this shouldn't be acceptable or the way it is expected to be. If someone lost the key to their house and their landlord said "forget about it, you shouldn't have lost it, go be homeless", do you think that would be acceptable? Absolutely not. Maybe they might have to wait a day or two at most to get a copy of their key cut but not weeks/months/years and it should be a priority. If their landlord doesn't have time to get keys cut and deal with these things then employ someone who can do it for you. Forum hack - Understood
Losing it if not being careful enough - User's irresponsibility. They have all the rights to get their accounts back but considering the way administration works here, he has zero chances. To be honest, if I'm aware that my account may never get recovered if hacked, I will be extra secure while accessing it. I've almost clicked on phishing and dodgy links before when deleting posts. Anyone can fall victim to them in numerous ways and that shouldn't mean the end of your account here. If there was better security measures in place here most people wouldn't lose their accounts or they could be prevented from being lost. Agree with you here. Theymos is more responsive to you than us so I guess you gotta convince him to bring about the change.
Is he? He barely responds to me at all. I don't want him to get annoyed at me for constantly messaging him either. I managed to get a list of the top reporters for Bitcoin Discussion from him last week so we can give that board a dedicated mod, but no response after that. How long does it take to implement a mod? A few clicks probably. I've been suggesting there needs to be at least one there for years and still nothing. Simple things just don't get done and the forum becomes exponentially more spammy and less usable/readable as time goes on. |
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If this guys were really using some kind of tool, we should make him/her reveal those tool.
Spammers are a tool.  That's probably what 50% of the userbase looks like here right now. The other half are probably families with their 2.3 kids posting away:  Look kids, all you do is just copy and paste a post from earlier on in a spam mega thread and get paid for it! Can you believe it? Do this with your 12 alt accounts each and we'll be able to afford a Lamborghini by Christmas! Few hours later:   Why was I banned? I didn't do nuffing. What about my daily needs? Merit ruins Lamborghinis! |
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Welcome to bitcointalk. The majority of the people posting here are just bot and spammer accounts being farmed to abuse bounties. Until something changes then this will never stop. Put a merit requirement on Junior Members or preferably get rid of signatures up until Member level or even higher. These bot accounts can join a signature campaign at Junior which merely requires 30 activity that bots and spammers can get in 2-4 weeks. Good luck them ever getting ten merits to become a Member then. As long as you can farm Junior accounts by doing nothing but making 30 spam posts or copy and pastes then bots will continue to do this in their thousands. You can earn a decent living from bounties alone if you have enough Junior accounts and this just encourages the creation of many more. Make signatures a reward for those who have contributed something here. Getting ten merit isn't outrageous and should be fairly easy for even a half decent poster but spammers will get no where.
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1) Why do you need a high ranked account? If I was in your place, I would start afresh with a newly created account.
2) Getting your account hacked honestly is your own fault, you can't go around whining how unmanaged the staff is.
3) There are 100's of accounts waiting to get recovered, why you should be treated any differently?
- I understand it's frustrating but can't help it. Just go with the flow.
1) Why do you need one? Something tells me you just wouldn't give up on this account if it was lost somehow. Put your self in his and everyone else's shoes when they're seemingly never going to get their account back. In fact, why don't you abandon this account now and start over from a new one if it's not a big issue? I mean, you don't need a high ranked account, right? 2) Who's fault was it that the forum got hacked? That's how most of these accounts are getting hacked. Anyone can have their account hacked or stolen regardless of how security conscious you are, but that doesn't mean they don't have a right to get their account back at all. 3) I don't think he's saying he should be given priority, but there are hundreds of accounts that aren't getting restored at all and this is just another one added to the pile whilst users are left without even a response from admins. Simply not restoring them at all isn't acceptable and looks terrible on the forum. I got my gmail account back in 24 hrs with Google. Of course, it is a multi-billion dollars company and blablabla. But this is also not a hometown housewives forum but one with the auditory of millions. It's time to implement a working system to return accounts to the owners. Existent one is indeed cumbersome and time (months(!)) consuming.
Google's system is probably all automatic, unless you contacted customer support and got help from them but they will have hundreds if not thousands of employees restoring accounts. Bitcointalk has two, neither of which seem to be restoring accounts at all. |
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Why do we need an Off-topic section at the first place?
It is not related to the cryptocurrency so there should be the same rules as the Ivory Tower.
Why would you gain activity if you do not discuss anything related to the idea of the forum?
So if we keep the off-topic section there should be new rules like this:
- No designated moderator /OK/
- No post count gain
- No Activity gain
- Posts do not engage the two weeks Activity period.
But keep in mind that all the sh!t happening there will try to find a new place. So next sections are Economics, Bitcoin/Altcoins Discussion boards and the not so popular Local sections with a help of Google translate...
I guess we don't need it, but we don't need Politics or Alt Coin section either. I don't think we should get rid of it though as it's good as a board for threads that don't fit any where else. If someone wants to discuss movies or music then they can in Off Topic. What I think we should do is restrict that board to higher ranks only and/or posts/activity aren't counted in there because it is the go-to board for account farmers and spammers. When you can't speak English very well if at all or know little to nothing about bitcoin you can just spend your entire forum life posting in there about your top five movies etc and many farmers do post exclusively in Off Ropic and create shit thread after shit thread despite there being a sticky in there telling them not to do that. There's no good reason why someone would sign up here and head straight to Off Topic. This is a bitcoin discussion forum, not a child's play pen to farm their account easily in the process, so that's why I think that board should be off limits to Newbies and Juniors at least because they just abuse it. I've also suggested in the past that you have to be a certain rank to create threads in there which would also help, but I would prefer locking it out completely to all lower ranks or posts not counting towards activity etc. |
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You could do this I guess (and Newbies already can't post images). To remove the restriction newbies could purchased a copper rank. I've also suggested implementing a landing page/redirect notice that urges users to double check the url once clicked for phishing etc. Sometimes you almost click dodgy links by accident so this would be double protection and some of the phishing urls look legit on first glance which I'm sure gets many.
IF you want to lock the thread you can do so at the bottom left.
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I know that some users will attack me due to the same thread appeared on the board already, but I wish to ask in any way:
How can we regard the case when a member stays some merits to a signature campaign's OP to be accepted into the campaign? Coz the first post of every signature campaign is standard (picture, links, rules, signatures and so on), does it really deserved to be merited or it is simple ass licking?
Thanks.
Meriting those sorts of threads is more likely people just using the merit as a 'like' button. Ass licking isn't against the rules either, but I don't think meriting a post is a guarantee to get you into a campaign anyway, but maybe they are trying to ass-lick in the hope that they will. Something tells me that DarkStar isn't going to accept you into Chipmixer for merely meriting their Ann thread. If people request that their post is merited to join then that would be a different matter but I don't think 'ass kissing' is a huge issue right now. |
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Not agree. Forum will be more spoil. They will just pay fee for board or sub-board and same will promote by alt account instead of bump. How ever it will same spam.
Better solution I think leave it same board. Yes you can suggest for fee on same board but personally I discourage.
I think restrict posting below member & reply / quote restriction below Jr. Member. So below member will not able to make thread , below Jr. will not able to reply or quote. If implement this I believe 80% spam will reduce.
Why would they use bump bots in their own sub board? It defeats the purpose. People use bump bots to bump their thread to the top for publicity over all the other ICOs. First one : ICO don't pay anything but the manager has to open a self-moderated topic and like the wall observer topic, all reports go to the manager and he is obliged to remove the spam or else the topic will get trashed. I like the idea but they won't do it, nor will they know how to moderate effectively here or by our standards (that's something you learn over time by reporting etc). Second option : ICOs have to pay a fee that goes to the forum mods to clean the spam out of the forums.
ICOs should have to compensate the forum in some capacity. Not only does the forum likely lose out hundreds of thousands if not millions in potential advertising revenue as those ICOs would advertise here via banners (and many do try but theymos has blocked them from adverting now), but they also cause 95% of the spam and destruction of the forum via signature campaigns and doing nothing at all about the spam they cause. In fact, spam is good for them. The more people spamming their signature the more adverting they get for free and this is why they accept anyone and everyone. This can't be acceptable and needs to change. The longer we ignore it the more people exploit it and the worse things get. We can't let ICOs and the get rich quick schemesters behind them drive the forum into the ground. This place is an absolute paradise for them and we let them do whatever they want and this needs to change. 1) Make it so that posts from lower ranked members don't bump the thread to the top (ideally up to Member) Only for certain boards, right? A Newbie with a serious question should still get the attention he needs. That's the point I wanted to make. Now that I manage a couple of service threads I get a lot of people that only joined the forum to ask a question or raise a support issue. It would make it difficult for me to have to keep checking to see if there were new posts. We've discussed this recently in other threads and I still think manually approving the first post for each new account, as is done on many other forums, is the best way to combat this. Well I initially only suggested it for the Ann board and anywhere else where people are using paid bumping bot services to keep their thread at the top, but you could extend it to other boards where potential abuse may happen. I see a lot of idiots using shills in Digital Goods etc to ask a stupid fake question or post a fake vouch to keep the thread on top and it could certainly be used there. The thread could still show up in your 'show new replies' but it's just not bumped publicly on the board which is what they're after. If this can be implemented then I think it will render bump bots useless. As for manually whitelisting, I think it would help clean up the forum immensely and it would stop 99% of bots from becoming an eyesore and a nuisance, but I know it will be a lot of extra work for staff (but nuking bots and also idiots who write exclusively 'good project' is also very time-consuming). I'm also not sure whether it's something theymos would do, but it certainly should be considered and plenty of other forums already use this sort of mechanism. |
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I have a feeling City will again be champions and Liverpool will be the only team able to keep up and hopefully made it interesting.
I'd love so see Liverpool take it this year. Never been a big Liverpool fan, partly because of my burning hatred of Steven Gerrard, but my unyielding love for Klopp has overcome that. If any manager deserves the trophy, it's him. I'll be behind Liverpool this season. I think the title will be between them and City, but who knows what will happen. Wow our captain really took his A game with him. I thought I had a good chance of winning the yellow cap but I went for a "shock" predictions for the remaining 2 games. I thought surely this week 1 must have at least 1 upset. Like Trofo said, this week was rather "easy", just a matter of who predict exact scores. Results all went the favorites' way, no big upsets over the 10 games.
A lot of teams failed to score, which is not what I expected too. Normally many goals and both sides scoring in English games lately.
There's usually always some shockers on the first round as teams are shaky coming back from the break and gelling with new players etc and you've got no recent for to judge either team on, and so making correct predictions is often difficult, but I guess this year it's the anomaly. 0-0 games are where you can gain a lot of points. People seem to rarely choose them (or even draws). I tend to pick them when I think there's two poor teams that will cancel each other out and it worked on the Southampton vs Burnley game but not on a couple of others. |
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First of all, I didn’t know where to place this post as this is a meta-question on goods bought on the auction or the goods sections of the forum. I will move it if needed.
When you buy a physical good, let’s say a silver bitcoin coin, do you give your personal data and have it sent home? Or how do you do it?
That's entirely up to you. You can give them all your details if you trust them but remember that user could do what he wants with them. I wouldn't personally have anything sent to my home address from here even if I thought they were very trusted, nor would I ever give out my real name or address because I'm sure there's a fair few people who would like to be a nuisance with it. If you want to remain private then you're going to have to find a way to have something shipped to you without them knowing who you are and there are likely several options. The most popular one would be to invest in a PO box but these aren't cheap and you will almost certainly need ID and proof of address to open one but this wouldn't be available to the person you were giving the PO box address out to. Usually you would have to purchase them for a minimum term too (which would probably be at least a month so probably not cost effective just for one item). You could have the item sent to someone else as a proxy but this of course then opens them up to possible abuse. If you're in the UK I worked out a way that you can essentially get a temporary one use'drop location for free anytime you want it and you don't need to use your real name or use ID. All you need is a pick up code and they give your package to anyone as long as they have that. You're essentially using a loop hole in some of the 'pick up points' that retailers use so you can go pick up your purchases from a store for convenience. It could be used as a way to sell bitcoins for cash or anything else anonymously as well. And this thread is probably more for trading discussion, but maybe Meta is ok too. |
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Good work. All missing the periods on the end of their posts as well: If the news that SEC is going really hard on ICOS then we might see the demand for the Ethers dropped and this is very good because it is getting hard now to differentiate what is a scam ICO from real projects. I think one need to watch out for support if it is broken or not
I don't know why people are so particular at what is happening in the EOS wallet, developers move this money several times but most of them always employ the use of third party to sell their Ethers and not move directly to exchange not to cause panic in the market
I think it is if one want to do scrapping but holding for long term would be a tough call in my opinion, see the big picture please, it is very surprising now that the fake volumes on these exchange is increasing and not reflecting in the price of coins. how can a coin with a trading volume of $1 million on average not see and major shift in its price whether negative or positive
i bought at 4$ now i have big lose . do you think price will recover in september or better to sell now and accept the lose ?
Do not sell in this period as this will definitely be the wrong decision for you. I think Icon is a good project and gathers a lot of good people so they will definitely have a new strategy to develop the project. Just not selling and should be more patient then the ICX price will increase again because I have strong belief in this period. Please make your own decision, I missed out on the ICO and started buying around 33ksat, but decided to sell my tokens at 22ksat after great dump and then it seems like a loss but now it was the right decision to make. I have a feeling this is going below 10k, someone said the contract the team had with their market maker has ended I think we will see an improvement in the market in the coming months . It is worth to have patience and wait .
Yeah it's always worth to wait some time in my opinion, and also I see that some ICOs and Bounties paused their work for better market conditions as we all see I think we need the market to recover because alot of panic sell is happening now, investors are getting rekt in the market, imagine investing $3k into an ICO and the price now is less than $800. I think a new order need to happen if we need market recovery. The ICO space has been greatly abuse and some of these developers need to be arrested IMO for alot of shady practices Yes, you need to, I think for now people need to start to look into diversifying into fiat also, most people will disappoint with me, but so far if one have diversified into Fiat in January, it would have outperform most of the Altcoins and even Bitcoin this year, the way thinks are this year, it is likely to be a flat year
jacaf01 and thepo1m are also banned. |
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Noticed this user because his posts were terrible: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=373847 Pab September 03, 2014 He has received merit from this user (who is banned and has negative feedback): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=918100 housebtc November 10, 2016 Then I noticed the similarities between their posts: Hello Bounty Hunter Friends,
Could you please tell me which signature campaign is the best for now? And, Please share your way how to choose a good signature or social bounty?
Thank You
That company what i advertise in my signature is really good.I have never seen before more legitimate and experienced team.All team members are holding 500 patents from ai and machine learning industry Check them because i don't know do they accepting junior but for sure you can join social bounty There is nothing bad in quitting a job after you must have made huge profit, I read alot of stories of people who have made millions investing into crypto, so why do you need to keep working, since your live is set, but it very sadden to hear people quitting their normal job when they have nothing in reserve to leave on
No periods at the end of their sentences. housebtc has also received two merit from someone but there's no history of it. Anyone know how to get that data? I wouldn't normally care about such a small potential abuse but it's likely ban evasion and he's crap posting. |
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Well three correct scores for me and the bastard of the week with the first yellow cap  . I narrowly missed out on four other correct scores by one goal, two of those games screwing me over in the last few minutes with a late goal. Imagine getting seven correct scores. Would have got me a cash prize of £500. I suspect missing out on a lot of games just by one goal will be quite common though and that's why it's so difficult to do so. Aiming for 5 correct scores from one round though to get myself a proper yellow cap . Consolation prize leader-board so far: hilariousandco 18.5 slaman29 18 LTI_btc 15 Bitsat 15 marboro 14 |
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How is this then untrue?? this is the exact thing i am claiming, you gained rank easily since merit was not a factor back then. all you had to do is post stuff to get activity. One of your first posts for example: Mod give green light for it. But maybe we can suggest that the selling acc mark or something
Who gave you a green light for doing what? Has essentially given you a merit. Lets see you getting a merit with a shitpost like that now. No it hasn't. I don't think you understand how merit works or what it is. I wasn't merited for that post, so if I made 1 million posts like that then I would literally get nowhere. My posts far eclipse my activity and posts that don't get any merit are irrelevant to your ranking without the required merit and I still had to get hundreds of merit which I have. So even if I started with zero merits I would have almost certainly made the requirements within the time-frames it takes to achieve merely activity over time. Short posts or ones that are not 'essays' don't equal 'shitposts' either. What about all those quality posts I made before the merit system that are now overlooked and will never get any merit? In fact, I'm actually one of the top-merited users here:  Only one things is crystal clear though. If merit would have been introduced when this forum was launched, non of you legendary/ hero members would hold your current rank  I completely disagree with this. There are some users here on the forum that got many merits and they started from the bottom like nullius. If I remember correctly, he is a low ranked member here when the merit system has implemented but now he got so many merits but unfortunately, he is inactive right now. I believe that we can get the required merits that we needed as long as we are not included in the most people here who are shitposting and spamming here. There are many members who got ranked up already. Those who are complaining the merit system are ones who can't contribute to the forum. Maybe I should include you or not??  JK and you essentialy got a "merit' for this shit post so cut the crap people: hello im a newbie too in the world of bitcoins i know bitcoins for about a month or two but i ignored it because i didnt see the importance of this bitcoins.. but now i see the importance and i want to explore whats inside cryptocurrency and i want to know it here in this website.. thanks You could make a million shitposts but they're wholly irrelevant if you don't get the additional merit. Even if you were a colossal shitposter who was here before merit without additional merit you're not going to move up ranks. |
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Only one things is crystal clear though. If merit would have been introduced when this forum was launched, non of you legendary/ hero members would hold your current rank Not true. I will have gone from Hero to Legendary as soon as I have the required activity and this is only in a matter of months. Merit isn't difficult for those who make quality contributions, but it is for those who are only here to make one/two liners to get paid. I wouldn't even be against everyone starting from a level playing-field with no auto merit allocation and then everyone has to rank up naturally. That would really sort the wheat from the chaff. We all know getting merit is not easy. we post lots of quality post but still we didn't get any merit. In that time if we heard people selling their merit. that really frustration fact for us.
Your 19 posts consisting of 2 or three lines are not going to get you merit. Unless one of them says something profound and brilliant. Most posts that get merit take time and effort to compose. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304374;sa=showPostsHave a look at the type of posts that get merit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;statsYour motivation shouldn't be merit but making a contribution towards the forum. Posts for the sake of extracting merits are usually quite obvious to those that have merits to give. He's a spam account belonging to a major account farmer. See the previous page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4847725.msg43906035#msg43906035 |
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Who are involved in censoring moderating this website?
The mods are responsible for enforcing the rules. Did you break the law of the land? Would breaking the lass of your country be a threat to your freedom of speech? Sometimes you can't just say anything you want if it breaks the rules and causes damage or danger to someone else. Care to give us some examples of this 'censorship'? Who are involved in censoring this website? It's a threat to my freedom of speech
I thought I was the only one feeling that there is censorship on the Bitcoin talk forum. That's a crying shame that on a forum like this, which is all about our freedoms of all sorts, we encounter such a disgraceful thing as censorship...  Such as? There are rules here for a reason and if you break then posts may be removed or users banned. Without rules things turn into compete anarchy and there needs to be some order here to have a functioning board for discussion. Otherwise it would be just wall to wall spam... oh wait, never-mind. We need more censorship - the current spam crap is violating my freedom to read rights. Ha. We do need to get harsher and clamp down on certain things like spam and farming etc, but people aren't going to have opinions removed just because someone doesn't like it unless you're doing it just to be disruptive and derail threads etc. Reads the rules and try to play by them and you likely won't have your post removed. |
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If ICOs have to pay money, I would suggest theymos to pay a little more to the current staff here. What they are paid != Work they do. They need to be compensated properly. Whilst I don't think many staff members would say no to a raise, we're essentially volunteers here. Theymos did mention changing the mod payment algorithm a while back but I have no idea whether that would lead to an increase of decrease in staff earnings. It depends how it's changed, but I do think the way the payment algorithm works here isn't actually representative of the work being put in i.e. one patroller could maybe handle 500 reports a month and another 5000 and they would both likely get a very similar payment if not the same. Whether I handle zero bans or 1000 I don't think that has any effect on payment either. Nice idea @hilariousetc and I have my own suggestions since from the Biggining of my short carrier in the forum. - Merits shouldn't awarded to the post made on ANN threads.
- Posts in the ANN threads should not counted as an activity.
- Introduce earned Merit requirement for starting a thread in ANN section.( Most members wouldn't risk their reputation to just get few ICO tokens which can create out of thin air, so my believe is they will moderate the thread that he/she started)
Example - LoyceV's signature campaign with earned Merit requirement 1) I wouldn't necessarily be against it, but alternatively you could say people should be able to merit whatever they like. I think giving ANN threads merit is largely useless, but if a worthwhile project popped up that could change an industry or was proposing an excellent product then I wouldn't have an issue in meriting that. I think there are bigger issues right now than people meriting ANN threads which seems like a non-issue to me. 2) Wouldn't be against that either, but I think there are boards more suited to activity not counting (bounties etc) and since we have merit shitposting is largely useless without the merit which they wont ever get. 3) I would be against this. Doesn't really solve anything to be honest and it stops new users from posting them and they will just hire other users to do the listing for them. Charging users a fee would just be better in my opinion. |
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Can you rephrase that into something concise and get to the actual point because I have no idea what you're actually proposing or are concerned about here? Is this just an elongated way of indirectly complaining about the merit system and that you can't earn more because you can't move up ranks and you want to go back to how the ranks were before? Or are you saying other websites are now doing bounties and you're worried about the forum losing traffic to them and losing out money? Please clarify.
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In fact, I think they're just causing much more work for staff at the minute as it's clear there are a few users who have gone crazy reporting any old sort of spam post they can find since these reporting badges were announced and I don't think that's a coincidence.
That's all we wanted, isn't it? I understand the mods are having more workload than before. To keep the balance may be theymos can consider asking volunteers to help the mods if he does not want to hire more mod/s of course. Is it really essential to report a spam post made in December buried in the first few pages of an Ann thread? Nope. Some people are clearly just looking for things to report and it's a waste of time for everyone right now. Report things that matter not anything and eveytthign just because it's going to get you a worthless badge. I've also suggested assigning more sub board mods and patrollers but my suggestions always fall on deaf ears. |
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