What deception do you intend to prove, and who deceived you ? Be precise.

Reality check; what laws did these people break? Labcoin doesnt even exist as a legal entity, and there is no contract that binds anyone. Its even not obvious to prove involvement of the Alessi's, Ive not seen their signature on any document, all we have is hearsay.

The only way I see to get to them is by reporting them to security and exchange commissions for selling unregistered securities. If you are in the US, just contact the SEC. If you are in Hong Kong, contact the SFC. Ive only glanced over HK law, but selling unregistered company shares appears  just as illegal there as it is in almost all  other countries:

http://www.legislation.gov.hk/blis_ind.nsf/CurAllEngDoc/42CE7AADFA70346548257A56000C69A2?OpenDocument

Little bit of digging in his post history doesnt inspire confidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304925.msg3269955
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280796.msg3004631

"beware" would be an understatement

Nah, "communication problems".

4.5 sounds too good to be true. Do you accept escrow? WHere are you shipping from (and to) ?

60C sounds quite good to me. Most of those VRMs should have no problem operating at 100C and more.

Thats what howard wang said. The 180nm straight fpga port was too bad to even bother with, the 130nm design was never finished. No tape out, no chips.

http://pastebin.com/rQfbUA8d

I was convinced it was a scam but that they had some chips nonetheless (albeit 180nm and possibly non fuctional). As it turns out, they dont have any chips at all, neither the 180 nor the 130nm design taped out.

But yeah, some  people will still say its legit, and claim statements such as hashing with 2TH with non existing chips is just a communication problem .

My point is that the asics themselves may be adequately cooled, so upgrading those fans wont help. But the VRMs may be overheating. On 5870 videocards it was also a lot more tricky to keep VRM temps under control than the GPU itself. Pointing a fan on them or gluing some heatsinks on them may help.

ANyway, that is if this is a heat problem, it could be overcurrent too. Can someone with a KNC measure the temperatures of those VRMs? Or carefully feel with your finger?

I dont think replacing those artic cooler fans is going to do anything for preventing those caps or VRMs from burning out. Maybe adding or reorienting case fans may help if those components are overheating (are they?)

Only on bitcointalk 

Nice catch. Wonder if this could be labcoin too:

Not even a tapeout of the 180nm chip; they dont have anything, and thats even less than I was willing to believe.

On the bright side, no tapeouts and no chips means they had virtually zero expenses. If you are gullible enough to believe serial liars and scammers routinely return their loot to their victims, labcoin should still have almost all of the IPO coins.

cooling those single's is positively childsplay compared to that Monarch. The fact they managed to botch that is telling.

According to the drawings on arctic's site:
http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/cpu/473/freezer-a30.html
(click on compatibility, then scroll down)
it looks like the contact base front to back is no deeper than ~21mm, maybe 25mm if you include the aluminium bracket which Im not sure is supposed to make contact; thats considerably less than the 41mm of the KnC heatspeader. What picture are you looking at?


I think we are largely in agreement there.

Yeah "only". The "only" problem with that is that the packaging is some sort of epoxy plastic, its not like you can change it after they have been packaged. That means you can throw them away, all of them. So you are left with that next production run, which usually takes at least 2 months for the wafer processing alone, assuming you planned this beforehand or the fab has spare capacity. Add the time for planning the wafer run,  packaging, mounting, assembly,  deploying. How much do you think those 130nm chips are going to be worth if they only start hashing in February?

According to TGB's optimistic scenario, and using labcoins most optimistic specs, they would mine $5 per chip in February, $2.5 in March and the total barely exceeds $8. Asics are cheap, but good luck having those chips produced at that price, including the PCBs, powersupplies and other overhead and somehow make a profit.

Its a loser.

My point is that BFL isnt going to struggle with hotspots on that chip and that its a smaller chip than KnC isnt their problem. Putting a 1000mm² heatspreader on a 300 mm² die (or set of dies) isnt going to work miraculously better than a 300mm³ heatspreader with a similar sized cooler. In fact, most overclockers will tell you you get better results by removing the CPU heatspreader and putting the cooler directly on the much smaller die (which is the case with most GPU's). The more important reason for that heatspreader is not miraculous heat conductivity, but making it less likely that you crack the chip or misalign the cooler..

Anyway, removing the 350+W of heat in a dual slot GPU sized package will be a stiff challenge, no question about that. Putting more than 2 in a case probably damn near impossible.  But I dont think it would be considerably easier with a monster size chip like KnC. In fact, and slightly OT,  Im looking forward to seeing some close ups of their cooling solution, AFAIk those  intel and amd coolers from Artic dont have a base surface area large enough to cover their entire heatspreader. Did they order a custom batch; or is part of their heatspreader not covered?

I know. But its telling isnt it?

BTW, tip for anyone with BTC but without exchange.. start shopping on bitmit.net. Most retailers there use 24hr average from bitcoinaverage.

Nope, it was held up by dreams of future value. What you see now is panic, its not drug users pulling out.
What bitcoin is worth without  silkroad will only be clear in a few months IMO. Between then and now, I wouldnt be shocked to see $20 before it starts climbing again.