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2841  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter - Nov. 20 on: November 14, 2021, 02:12:48 PM
^^ If he will be present on the fight itself, then it looks like the eye operation has been healing as scheduled.

So definitely that is the fight that we are also waiting to happen for years now, Crawford vs Spence or the unification of the welterweight division. But first, Crawford needs to get over Porter here in a spectacular fashion so that Arum will have no reason not to set up the fight next.

Arum waited too long to make it happen? I think if he wants to set up a fight between Crawford and Spence, they could have already arranged it before Spence meet a car accident. I have a feeling that Bob is trying to play safe as he is not sure if Crawford would win against Spence.
2842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: November 14, 2021, 01:48:24 PM
^What happened to the post of the stadus? I think there is a malfunction in his hardware or something.
Dennis Schröder continues his great game, against Cavaliers he leads the team by scoring 28 points, unfortunately, they lose in this game.
They are in control in the first 3 quarters but in the 4th quarter, Cavaliers played more defense and they got a win with only 2 point margin.

The 4th quarter score was 29-15, just one quarter and the Cavaliers were able to beat the Celtics this game.

Still, that inconsistency in defense was very evident here, 2nd time I saw a 4th quarter meltdown of the Celtics.
They gave up a big lead. That's what happened. When Rubio came in, the Cavaliers became a different team like the ghost of every great player merged with them.  Grin Bench points and contribution, that was the big difference between them.
With the Cavaliers finding Mobley as hot in the 4th quarter, they never let him sit down and let that heat produce more. He is one of the key factors they won it and then the defense of Osman from the impact of Mobley's 3 blocks at the 4th.


To be honest, the Cavaliers really did surprise me this season, I thought they are still a bad team but they showed they can be a great team even without a star player. As per ranking of standing, they are now sitting at the number 4 with a 9(w) - 5 (l) record, and of course, it's also impossible for this team to sit at the top 1.

https://www.nba.com/standings
2843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: November 14, 2021, 12:34:58 PM
I have recently seen a TikTok video of Mike Tyson sparring "practice fighting" and he looks great... just have a look at this Youtube video of him preparing for the fight ==> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy7s-ct-qqA 

I think Logan Paul is creaming his pants, because I predict a Knockout in the first round for him. After all, Mike Tyson will not want to go all the rounds to the end at his age.  Cheesy

I just hope that Mike Tyson would still show the same strength as he was younger in this match. Just like Manny, being an older boxer has a little disadvantage because the younger player could move faster unless Tyson would show off his legendary moves.

You can't compare this fight to the fight of Manny against Ugas, that was a professional fight and Ugas is a champion as well. This match is a pure exhibition match and if we look at the experience of the fighters, clearly Mike Tyson has the advantage and that fact that he is still fit now, I have a feeling that his chance of winning is higher against Logan.
2844  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul on: November 13, 2021, 09:40:48 PM

I'd take that as a good explanation though, yes, as long as there's money involved a fighter could just act based on the script, but then again it's just our speculation now as no one has proven that there's really a script to follow.

In this fight that both are undefeated, I don't know who gets favored here based on the script, but I'll go with the favorites which is Tommy Fury.

No one knows if script do really exist, it's just an assumption since it's money making match, the talks between handlers and promoters are behind the closets, they just start to advertise the fight when everything already been arrange, who knows what are the possible arrangements that being done?  Tongue

Just for fun, i will follow you with Fury, he might have better advantage that's why he's been the favorite.



If it's Jake Paul who is the one who arranges the fight, then it will be his script and he will be the winner in this fight. They are good actors, they can act like they hate each other just to attract the attention of the viewers and with that, they'll buy the PPV which makes this another successful fight.

Quote
But with unproven scripts Grin what will happen inside the ring is already concluded  Roll Eyes but who's the creator of it? hahaha  Grin
We can put our guess by putting our bet.  Smiley
2845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 08, 2021, 09:47:31 PM
Going with the Bulls pick as well, tough matchup as I was initially leaning on the Nets not sure if the back to back schedule would be a huge factor but I think the Bulls have what it takes to get it done at home.

I also have a small bet on the Heat since the Nuggets seem too overrated based on their recent performance (losing twice against the Grizzlies).

Looks like everyone is on the same boat, how about a ride here?  Smiley

I guess the Bulls has a decent chance of winning here, this is the third road game of the Nets, they might be a little exhausted and the Bulls did not travel while they just continue training and home to make sure their bleeding will stop today, so yes, let's take this to the "W".
2846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: November 08, 2021, 09:17:45 PM
For MVP candidate, never miss Caruso LOL! Well, tbh I guess on the likes of Durant, Jokic, Giannis, Curry, are in that race.

IMO, Durant should be in the top 1 now being a contender in the MVP race, he is very efficient and he can make at least 30 points per game without a problem. Giannis and Jokic, they are not so consistent yet, their teams struggles a bit but Durant keeps winning for his team and getting good numbers.

Yeah, who wouldn't missed Durant in the top 3 of the MVP race for this year? I don't think that Jokic can do back to back, his Denver Nuggets is not the same as last year.

As for Wiggins, he is still part of the GSW, not sure why the discussion of him being traded. His points might be down a bit from last year, but still the same Wiggins for me. It's that Jordan Poole is now the new player in GSW as the second best scorer.
Looks like they're getting better without Kyrie Irving? For sure we'll never miss Durant in this race he's really getting a good start this season and looks like there duo with Harden was just amazing to see. I guess Wiggins still plays his role and he's still that good at it, Poole was just having the playing time and the kid really has the bright future.

The Nets have adjusted without Kyrie, and I read that Kyrie is included in the All Star ballot for this year and if he is included, maybe that's that only time we will see him play. Anyhow, as I have said, without Kyrie, Durant and Harden are taking over for the Nets. There is no more the question of chemistry between the two, they can co-exist.

Let Poole enjoy the playing time in GSW, he deserves it. Wiggins is still valuable player for them even if he don't score that much.

And worst thing could happen once Irving would return because he might handle the ball more like he usually do in the past. Also, if he is part of the voting and if he will be able to play, I like to assume that he is practicing with this team even though he didn't play in the actual game, so maybe he is still conditioned to play.
2847  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: November 08, 2021, 02:22:20 PM

I guess this will be the end of Santos' career. Vic Manuel is a good steal for the SMB because he can work inside unlike Arwind who only shoots outside and doesn't do his low post game anymore. They really believe that TNT is a threat because TNT beat all the SMB corporation teams and they need to be better his new conference.

If the price is right santos is willing to move and accept that fate, who among us expect that Danny I who brings a lot of title to this company and he is not just a role player but the main man of the team, it's pretty normal to see players to go and be traded, the thing that I didn't expect is SMB will acquired Manuel who just traded from Phoenix.

I just looking for any good information but it's really a big surprise, with him, towering inside together with Tau and JMF will be the toughest core to dominate.

And with Terrence and CJ, it's a PH national against the PBA team. Grin Roll Eyes

This is a trade, Santos has no choice but to accept it and play with Northport, I don't know when his contract will expire but at least he is required to play while his contract is still on and he has to play based on how he is expected to play. After his contract will expire, then we will know if he will be renewed or he will retire, it's just unfortunate that if he will not get renewed anymore, he cannot retire with SMB where he won multiple championships.
2848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: November 08, 2021, 01:10:10 PM
If it can be manipulated then don't bet on the favorites as manipulators will likely take the money from the public bets. So in this fight, since people think that Mike Tyson will win and the odds proved it, then probably it's good to just fade them and take Logan Paul instead, I hope my analysis makes sense.

I thought very much the same. At all bookmakers, Mike Tyson is a definite favorite, so if someone only wants to earn, they will give Logan a win.
I don't like that it can happen, but the more I think about it, the more likely it seems to me.
They make their own rules in exhibition matches or let's say a script of the fight, so if it's manipulated, they will have to follow it as that's the goal. Of course, we can still enjoy the fight, but if we have doubts about how it's manipulated, then maybe we just have to sit it and just enjoy the fight.

My principle in sports betting is don't bet when you are not sure about your decision, as it will only result in a wild guess that is not good for business on your end.
2849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: November 08, 2021, 12:34:28 PM


They will do that up until their respective fans are still willing to pay for the tickets.
We all know that they may have even a prior arrangement before the fight.
So for bettors, I don't think it is worth to bet especially if it is your last money.
If you want to bet, just use your extra extra funds so no hard feelings if the judges will resort to draw decision.

Since this is an exhibition fight draw is likely to happen, In Mike Tyson's last fight against Roy Jones Jr. which is an exhibition match, Mike Tyson is clearly the winner of the fight with his aggressiveness but the judges made it a draw because it's a friendly match and it was stated that it is just to show the capability of both boxers at their age.
The same thing on the Mayweather - Jake Paul, Mayweather is very careful in not hurting his opponent, because there's no title on the line and the fight is not going o have effect on his fight record

Most likely to happen, it's just on how fans and bettors will appreciate both fighters' efforts. But likewise, draw may take place if that's how the promoters arrange things before it's even started. The very bad side of exhibition fight for those who still betting with this kind of fights, it can be manipulated, everyone around is part of the talks, even judges and ref, they know what to do.

Maybe hope and luck are still circling inside those bettors who will place their money in this fight. Who knows if there's some luck to come up and what they pick brings the win right? Tongue Roll Eyes

If it can be manipulated then don't bet on the favorites as manipulators will likely take the money from the public bets. So in this fight, since people think that Mike Tyson will win and the odds proved it, then probably it's good to just fade them and take Logan Paul instead, I hope my analysis makes sense.
2850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: November 08, 2021, 08:13:37 AM
That Clippers game was something else. They finished on a 27-4 run to comeback and beat the Charlotte Hornets. After the game the coach for the Hornets said they were just missing shots at the end of the game and there was no other explanation for the breakdown… Paul George had another great night, barely missing a triple double with 20-9-8 as his final stat line.

Surprised though to see the Clippers big comeback against the Charlotte.

But I become shy, It could have been a good win for me (forget the odds when they are down by 2 digits). And who else are going to lead but Paul George, good numbers.

We've seen some teams collapsing in the 4th quarter, whether in their backyard or not. And it makes the game more exciting.

I witnessed a lot of games this season with the same scenario, these are the games I remembered.

1. OKC come back win against LA Lakers.
2. Bulls come back win against the Celtics
3. Suns come back win against the Pelicans.
4. and lastly, the Warriors come back win against LA Clippers, though the lead is not much.

Anyone, have you ever consided PG as one of the top contender for regular season MVP?
2851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: November 07, 2021, 09:19:22 PM

We don't have an idea how the other imports play. It's always favorable to him for the opinion of fans because we know how he plays. But there could be some surprises for the other imports.

I hope to see that surprise as it's not good if Brownlee will still dominate like in the past season, his greatest rival is only Allen Durham who also won the best import award before playing with the Meralco Bolts. It's been a while, I almost forgot the imports the last time the PBA have this conference, so it's like freshen our mind on these imports.

Actually, it's not that Brownlee is dominating the imports but the whole Ginebra is just doing great as a team.

And just for reference at others here, Brownlee only won once as a Best Import in the PBA on his 4 PBA Champions. At the time Ginebra got their first champion with Brownlee, the Best Import at that conference is Allen Durham of the Meralco Bolts. A year later, Allen Durham again won the award. Then Brownless was next.

He is not the dominant import in the league in the past conferences even his overall stats are good but his chemistry to Ginebra is exactly fit that's why the team always has a good rally when Brownlee is there.

Do you still remember how many times he won a championship being an import of the Ginebra San Miguel?

I can always remember his winning shot that eliminated the Allem Durham's team in the Finals, I'm not sure if it's his first time to win the championship in the PBA but that win is really great as it's a buzzer-beater win.

the highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iPH5oyG8Zs
2852  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: November 07, 2021, 01:18:09 PM
And then here's the Lakers superteam who are still struggling lol.
I don't know what happened to AD but he didn't come back after he exited in the first half. Coach Vogel says he had stomach illness.
I can sense a trouble in LA, things are so messed up. I'm not gonna be surprise there will be a lot changes happening soon lol.

Yeah, it looks like coach Vogel should make some changes because the Lakers can't do anything without Lebron. By the way, Russell Westbrook had another disgusting performance considering that he scored only 1 out of 13 and made six turnovers in this game.

One day he gets triple-double, the next day he'll play like he was lost nowhere. One simple reason to describe his presence with the team and that is the words "not fit". Yeah, that's what I believe because he didn't blend well when traded to Rockets, then Wizards, and now the LA Lakers which he has the worst performance among the teams he played.
2853  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant on: November 07, 2021, 11:41:11 AM
I can't wait to watch this fight. The two fighters are very strong men based on their previous fights .  For this match I can't predict who will be the winner but I know canelo he is good fighter with tough punch. Let me wait to  see till the end of this fight .
You don't need to predict because the fight is over and we know the winner.

It was Canelo who won the fight and he is now the unified champion, also, he made history beating Plant in this fight.
The start was good, Plant had a chance but eventually, Canelo found the right strategy to beat Plant and knock him out.

I guess you should watch the replay now.
2854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: November 07, 2021, 10:44:28 AM

We don't have an idea how the other imports play. It's always favorable to him for the opinion of fans because we know how he plays. But there could be some surprises for the other imports.

I hope to see that surprise as it's not good if Brownlee will still dominate like in the past season, his greatest rival is only Allen Durham who also won the best import award before playing with the Meralco Bolts. It's been a while, I almost forgot the imports the last time the PBA have this conference, so it's like freshen our mind on these imports.
2855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 07, 2021, 09:31:36 AM
^Congrats Dave.
I lose my Mavs bet but I won the over total score. 1/2. Luka hit the three while I am praying it won't get in to continue in overtime and expect Mavs to win it there at a higher amount of lead. Well, that's basketball and Luka had his history of shooting those types of a buzzer beater.
My other lucky bet is this.

It's not that shocking to win this kind of bet, especially against the Nuggets. They are in a bad shape right now looking for their offense. It can't be Jokic all day long. Nuggets won 1 point but with the question of what will happen to Porter Jr. That backache keeps on coming back.
I don't know what's the problem with the Nuggets, I guess they are still the same team who were in the playoffs last season, and almost losing against the Rockets tells me that there's really a problem inside and I don't think they'll improve even if Murray will be back if they'll not fix that problem, whatever it is.

I just said this because I notice their struggles so far, they are not the Nuggets I know.
2856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: November 06, 2021, 01:55:04 PM
Another good exhibition match that is worth watching, our Mike Tyson is fighting a young Logan Paul who has not won a single fight in an exhibition match. This should be exciting as Miky Tyson although oldies already but still aggressive, so the question is, are we going to see a knockout? Choose a boxing in the poll you believe would win.



I voted for Mike Tyson he doesn't want to lose to this kind who is not a legit boxer and just want to sell dramas for money and fame, this is going to be a short distance fight Mike doesn't want a long-distance fight because of his age which Logan will take advantage because he has fresh legs but I don't think he can withstand Mike's power he still has that power it never left him even at his age.

How can we be so sure that he still got that power? Did you see him have a fight even in an exhibition fight before where he knocked out his opponent? If not then there's no assurance that he still got that power, unless he will show it to us in this fight.
2857  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Country restriction and use of vpn or tor on: November 06, 2021, 01:14:01 PM
I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time?
I guess if the purpose is clean then it might not affect your account, but if you are using vpn or TOR to hide your location because you want to bypass the restriction, then obviously it's wong and it's a violation.

If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins [if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].
This should not be a question address in general as legit site does pay all winnings, regardless of the amount as long as gamblers are not cheating.
2858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Commey - December 11 on: November 03, 2021, 09:25:57 PM
I guess this is a good fight for Loma, fighting an experienced fighter will add more spice to his resume once he wins this fight.

A rematch of Lopez would be a big fight, but both fighters are busy now fighter with other challengers and I like this match for Loma which I don't think he will have an easier win compared to his previous fight. On the other hand, Lopez should make his fight happen soon so after Loma wins this fight, they can set up a rematch.
2859  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: November 01, 2021, 11:47:19 AM
LA Lakers almost allow the Rockets to come back, what kind of team this is?

I don't know if they can survive against a tougher team when they cannot even completely dominate the weaker team.
I just don't like how they played but despite that, I'm still happy as I won my bet, I was expecting a low-scoring game, and boom! just exactly what I thought.
IMO, that's okay as long as they win. It's difficult chemistry from new guys. 3 guys where left in the Lakers team and all are traded for someone else.
Lebron, Anthony Davis, and THT.
After 20 games. That's when I would like to see some changes in their chemistry. We could see a little bit of it but it's always not enough for a winning team.
I like how Westbrook is being consistent in his stats but those errors that he had been making should be minimized.
He might knew it already but someone should still bring it up every game for him to remember.

I'm just disappointed a bit as I was thinking they'll continue their dominance in the 2nd half but they don't have the consistency. Rockets are a bad team now, a good team like the Lakers could easily dominate them but they have to understand that the 4th quarter is always the most important quarter in a game. Maybe I just can't forget what OKC did in the 2nd half to the LA Lakers.

Don't be too emotional, whatever they showed in a game is part of their game and if you see some weakness, you'll not see it permanently as they will also make an adjustment until they'll perfect their chemistry. We all know that the Lakers are struggling early this season, but we also know how talented their roster, so it's up to us to decide if we believe they'll be successful with their campaign this season to win a championship or not.
2860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 01, 2021, 11:18:48 AM
^^ Right, it turns out to be very close game right now, but Wizards still on top.

Most likely he score will be under, not sure though about the handicap, it could be 1 or 2 points margin for the winning team here. Unless Bradley Beal exploded in the last 8 minutes and then established a 5-1 record. Best of luck for those who have bet on this first game of the night.

What a game that was, double OT...

despite having to play catch up for most of the game, It really feels to me like Celtics blew this chance themselves, they had the chance with the last shot before OT but Brown couldn't hit from close range, then they were able was 9 - 0 up irrc in the first OT, almost midway  through OT they couldn't make a single bucket after that.

Yes, they could have won this game but they choke big time, it seems that Celtics can't really find the right grove, they let go of Walker and Fournier (which I think is a big mistake). Now they continue to struggle and can't even close out games. Might be the same story for them this year, maybe playoff bound but then lost in the first round. If they are going to continue to play this kind of game which is already a win for them but they let the Wizards took it.

That was a close game, one team has to win and the other has to lose. Just relax, Celtics are just warming up, they are still the same team and I saw the Celtics struggle even almost every season they are moving players. Jason Tatum IMO should lead the team, I know they also have Brown but Tatum is more clutch, and like in the playoffs, he always leads this team.

So what's going to be the bet for tomorrow?

Celtics will play against the Bulls at home, they are just -2.5.
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