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2841  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dangerous chasing losses on: October 25, 2023, 07:27:55 PM
I’m not a regular gambler nor an addicted gambler but I recently experienced a terrible chasing loss that start with small amount. I’m on a day off on my job right now due to my minor flu. My feeling got better while I don’t have things to do on my work dormitory so I decided to just gamble for fun only.

My game start by just betting minimum bet on a blackjack table with my initial deposit of 85$ which is my signature campaign earning last week. I lose my initial bank roll with just few bets on consistent losses. I decided to deposit again but this time with higher bankroll which is 250$. I bet twice the minimum bet this time since my bankroll is higher, the result is much terrible loss.

Lastly, I deposit 1800$ to have a better bankroll again, This time I’m betting like a high roller and lucky manage to recover my losses and bag 150$ profit.

Conclusion: I will never gamble again when I’m bored or chase loss small amount. With this exhilarating experience. I think I will stop gambling for a long time and reflec on what dumb thing I do today.
You were really luck you recovered and aswell made some profit out of the game you further played, but then you mentioned earlier that your intentions were for fun, then how it later turned into you chasing your losses is funny because if it were for fun you wouldn't have to chase losses, I think you gambled at leisure and so it wasn't long the fun was lost.

When next you want to try gambling, that is if you eventually give it a second taught, don't try to chase your losses els you may end up loosing even more, if you want to really enjoy the fun that comes with gambling, stake only what you can afford to loose at a time and not staking so big because you intend to make more money, that way you may have to chase your losses if the game turns out against you and very importantly gamble responsibly. You were lucky to recover next time you may not so don't chase your loses.
2842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 25, 2023, 06:59:08 PM
Barcelona's 2-1 victory against shakhtar Donestk was really an interesting game, Barcelona finally conceded their first UCL goal, both teams played well and shakhtar did their possible best throughout the second half of the game to share points with Barcelona but fair enough Barcelona had a good defensive line that was able to resist further goals from shakhtar, although they tried but Barcelona was the better side.

Felix went down with an injury today, some how I felt it affected Barcelona's chance of getting a third goal in the second half because the missed a few chances with some cancelled goals for offside as well, I hope Felix recovers before Barcelona's El classico, Barcelona now tops their group with nine points while shakhtar at number three position with three points, Barcelona is now very sure to make it to the next stage of the league.
2843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 25, 2023, 04:28:59 PM
Newcastle vs Dortmund is one game I really want to see today, the odds are in favour of Newcastle, they happen to be the bookies favourite for this game today, they are at home and in the premier league, they have lost three games , draw two and wom the remaining five out of ten games played so far int he premier league they are not doing too bad at the top of their group with four points in the UCL

Dortmund has just one point in the UCL but in their domestic league they are doing just well, I hope they will bring same performance to the UCl maybe they would be at the second position but let's see how well they would participate in this game against Newcastle, if they would be able to steal a point from Newcastle at home or Newcastle will take the full points and maintain their position at the top.i think it's going to be a tough one for both team as Newcastle needs to be sure they are proceeding to the next stage of the league and Dortmund aswell needs to move from below the group.
2844  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 25, 2023, 04:15:51 PM

Going by that match against Arsenal, we could possibly say Chelsea is improving as compared to how they have played earlier this season, they gave a very convincing start by leading with two goals, which brought their confidence up to further face Chelsea well enough till the end of the match, I must say they had almost matching strength in the game as both sides did played well .

Chelsea's home advantage was another point of morale boost , that's what I think personally because they wouldn't want to loose cheaply to a team they have had a history of defeat against over the years in their home, regardless of their form currently, but I don't think Chelsea is a weak side at all they have go good quality players and their team dept is fine enough,.it only seem like they had a tactical issue but I'm glad they are showing some improvement now.
2845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: EFL English Championship League 2023/2024 on: October 25, 2023, 01:23:59 PM
Stake campaign manager are you seeing the stuff your people are embarrassing the forum with?

This has been on of the most difficult league to predict recently as the patterns here isn't regular enough to give a good determining edge, so called big teams loose to small team and in some cases draw and went they manage to win the margin I often small, a case where you predict a 2.5 for big team against a small team and sadly the match ends with just two or even less goals.

Recently? Where've you been the entire history of Championship haha. Look at the odds markets for any given round and you'll find it's rare to see odds bigger than 5/1 on any team, any game week. Been like that for years (but also why I like the 5/1 teams). Compare that to the Prem where you regularly see 15/1 odds on decent teams (Sheffield is 21/1 next vs Arsenal).

It's not a recent phenomenon...

maybe by then some of them might have crashed out of the bigger leagues and will be willing to fave the championship well enough to see if they can achieve something with it

What do you mean by this? You don't crash out of a bigger league mid-season. Sorry but you quoted me. Explain your nonsense or stop posting spam.
Sorry, the statement about teams crashing out of major leagues was an oversight and a mistake from my end.

As to the point where I said recently, I wasn't referring to the entire history of the championship as I jus started following up the championship recently and still trying to get conversant with the championship, that has been my personal experience trying to predict the championship, that was what I meant while stating that.

My sincere apologies, I didn't intend to spam you, subsequently I will make sure to make my findings properly and make sure my statements are clear with no misinformation..... please do accept my sincere apologies
2846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Much do you Value your Privacy in Gambling? on: October 25, 2023, 12:19:04 PM

So, for some days now, I've had this thought of "how much some people really value their privacy in gambling", like as a gambler, you signed up on a new casino and immediately, you are allowed to deposit and play without going through a KYC verification process like we do on some casinos immediately after registration.
You start playing and luckily, you won a significant amount of money.

I know the word "significant" can mean different values for different gamblers, so let's use figures i personally think are significant and capable of changing lives.

So, let's assume you luckily won anything as from $70,000 and above with a total bet below $100, and to withdraw this money, or even part of it, the casino requires you to pass all levels of verification in their system, which means that you will have to provide them all your personally information down to the most private of them all, and this casino is relatively new and you are not sure about their reputation.

Will you go ahead and provide them all they require from you for account verification, so they can process your withdrawal request, or will you willingly forfeit such amount of money back to the casino on the account that your private information is more expensive than that amount of money you have own from them?

I love to read your thoughts on this.
This is why it's very important to sign up with only regulated casinos, casinos who are regulated within your region is easier to deal with Incase such as this but if they are not  registered and regulated they could get away with any act and legal actions cannot be taken against them. If they happen to be a reputable and regulated casino, you can go ahead and provide them with the required information after all the money is Worth it.

Not providing the information is at your detriment, I'm sure these casino wouldn't want to dig into your personal life and if they eventually request certain details, it's possible you make changes after withdrawal to continually keep yourself safe, and if any issues arises resulting from the information you provided them you could report them or take actions against them if they are reputable enough, they would do everything to get the issues resolved and make sure further actions is not taken as it will be bad business for them and they wouldn't want such for their business.
2847  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: EFL English Championship League 2023/2024 on: October 25, 2023, 12:09:48 PM
With so many games all over Europe already in my tickets, I thought I didn't want to add more on there exclusively, instead better to pick a few Championship maybes, right?

So HT live bet on Boro again (I'm refusing to believe their recent good results are a fluke), at over 2/1 I felt was great value given that Sunderland got a man sent off, and they proved me right scoring two soon after restart. Balanced that out with a boring Ipswich win at rather poor value (15/10), so I hope it all works out.

Leicester and Ipswich want daylight between them and playoff spots, so I think a win is "safe". Good luck!
This has been on of the most difficult league to predict as the patterns here isn't regular enough to give a good determining edge, so called big teams loose to small team and in some cases draw and when they manage to win the margin is often small, a case where you predict a three goals for big team against a small team and sadly the match ends with just two or even less goals.

For the mean time I have avoided adding teams in the championship to my bet slips till the championship get to it's mid point where some teams strength could be well determined,this is just my take tho, but for those betting on the championship Good luck.
2848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 25, 2023, 11:59:14 AM
If Girona can become a champion, it's really a huge achievement for them, just like how Leicester City won the Premier League on 2015-2016 season. They can win against weak clubs, but they're struggle when they face a top clubs e.g. Barcelona and Real Madrid. Since they only play in Copa del Rey and La Liga, they should take advantage over this because Barcelona and Real Madrid are participated in Champions League where they're will all out for this.
Girona has really been great this season, sitting at the second position on the table with twenty five points just like Madrid who is at the first with goal difference, is such a great achievement at this time, they have really work hard to have gotten there and it can be said it's deserving, because them achieving such without a star player is really applaudable and their coach aswell needs be commended.

They will now have to continually put up brilliant performance as this to keep up with their position as they still have three bigger teams who will contend the league title with them, Real Madrid, Barcelona and AthletiCo Madrid are strong teams in their good form who can definitely pose a strong opposition at Girona thereby threatening their position and possibility of winning the league title, but of they eventually happen to win, it will be historic that without a notable star player they achieved such, and their coach will be deserving of every commendation given him, but then I doubt the bigger boys will let this play out.
2849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 25, 2023, 11:33:50 AM
Everything must be done slowly, it is impossible for us to expect significant changes in a team in a short time, I think when Juventus is better than last season or there is better progress then that will be enough.
Regarding the competition for the title this season, it is indeed difficult, but that does not mean that Juventus is not considered for this.
Currently the Juventus team is a team that is developing and rising from its downturn with all the existing problems, and what is happening now should be appreciated.
Well it's true that significant improvement comes slowly and not just at once so maybe all Juventus may need at this time may be some more time and they will be better, but the reason why it's looking like it's taking too long it's because all they have to face this season is the serie A, as compared to others who probably have other leagues to participate in.

Juventus now as compared to last season isn't any better I will disagree with you on that, they are only gradually showing some kind of improvement which was expected of them since last season, at the beginning of last season they started off better than they are doing this season so that's why I say comparing both season they are not any better off, they are only gradually improving and so far it's been really slow.
2850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: October 25, 2023, 10:39:33 AM

Compared to Leverkusen and Liverpool, Liverpool will definitely be ahead because the English Premier League teams are stronger than the bundesliga teams and Liverpool have performed well against those stronger teams.

I think the two teams, namely Leverkusen and Liverpool, are strong candidates to win the UEFA Europa League. At the moment I can't choose between the two because only two matches have been played. They both have almost the same statistics. So maybe I will wait until all the matches in the group stage are finished and then we can compare the two.
Definitely Leverkusen and Liverpool stands stronger and better than most of the teams in the Europa, when checked based on team depth, strength and form. I see them as the best contenders for the Europa, nevertheless other teams aswell shouldn't be underestimated as they also wants a trophy too but technically these two teams so far have shown their level of capabilities which looks convincing enough.

Klopp is yet to get an Europa trophy with Liverpool so I think this is his chances and he will be giving everything to it, although the Europa has to be the third most competitive trophies he would be fighting for this season, definitely his hands are tight I hope he develops a strategy to see him through them all and get a trophy before the season end, he has got a great team so it's very possible he gets to achieve this.
2851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 25, 2023, 09:54:31 AM
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Even with the best players in the Bundesliga in Bayern Munich, still, they couldn't be in the first place on the table because just having players and the best coach is not the only thing they need.
Bayern Munich had some changes recently and we know whenever a team makes many changes they need some time to have an integrated team. In fact, Leverkusen can have good performances they have a coach like Xabi Alonso and unlike many other teams, they were stable during this season.

It truly irritates me when clubs, particularly one as dominant as Bayern Munich, introduce multiple changes quickly and then struggle. I recognise Bayern's abilities, but continuity is underrated! Under Xabi Alonso, Leverkusen demonstrates that consistent leadership can pave the path to success. I am convinced that cohesiveness is as important as individual brilliance. Bayern may possess stars, but without cohesion, their aptitude is wasted. Leverkusen under Xabi has found its cadence, as evidenced by their performance against Munich. They have become genuine contenders, confronting the status quo in the Bundesliga. And while I appreciate Bayern's decade of dominance, the time has come for a transition! I sincerely hope that other clubs will learn from Leverkusen.
This transition has been long expected and it birth is gradually becoming a reality but then we aren't so sure yet because asides Leverkusen there is Stuttgart also scaling heights and doing very well too but then we just hope Leverkusen does better enough to displace them and stay at that top position, personally I would love to see Leverkusen and Stuttgart contend for the champions.

Xabi is a very good coach and has proven so but then he will further need Great consistency to cling to the league title this season because I feel at some point Munich will come back to their feet and may become a strong contender to deal with same applies to Stuttgart, so Leverkusen still have much work to do as it not yet time to celebrate glory yet.
2852  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 25, 2023, 09:28:24 AM

Yes but this time I wish it would be the other way around and PSG has to hunt down Monaco until the end of the season. If PSG is leading the table and winning their games, it is still quite boring if there is never a change of positions at the top of the table. But I don't think that the chances are very good for Monaco to win the majority of their games while PSG also making mistakes from time to time. I guess that by the end of this year we will see the old pattern and PSG will be at the top again. Hopefully I am wrong with my prediction and we finally get to see some exciting weekends in the Ligue 1.
It's will be really fun to see the race between PSG and Monaco for the league title this season, just like in the bundesliga where Stuttgart and Leverkusen is displacing Bayern Munich to stay at the top, Monaco maintaining a top position as against PSG would make the Ligue 1 more fun to watch as there will be much to keep in anticipation rather than the usual custom of always seeing PSG at the top.

It will be nice if we get to experience a different champion by the end of the season but I still fear if Monaco could be able to achieve that well enough, because they are yet to prove how definite they can be with consistency to maintain their current spot, just like PSG they were once up there till some issues arose which led to their slow down, but if Monaco could take advantage of this period and gather some more points difference away from every other team, a match or two wouldn't cause them so much of their position.
2853  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 25, 2023, 09:16:50 AM
It's funny people are saying Onana is the best goalkeeper when he's only play good in one match from twelve matches he played for Manchester United.

I agree if win is a win, but this is a dramatic winning since Manchester United and Copenhagen are almost same, the difference is only luck. If they're struggle to win against Copenhagen, qualify for quarter final is already a big achievement for Manchester United.

Maguire once again shut down every people mouths.

Onana is a goalkeeper for Inter Milan in serie A and even the one who saved Inter Milan to even qualify for the champion league final last season, thus on a serious note he is an excellent goalkeeper, it's only that he began having awful performance from the beginning of the league this season. We all know that the serie A league is also a very difficult league, and any player who has performed well in serie A will be able to handle any difficulties in the premier league and any other league. From the start, I did not blame Onana; instead, I always blamed the team coach because, as Onana was having a poor performance, the coach should have been using the second custodian so that Onana could get back to his fitness to recover.

Let's take a look at rashford's performance now. Many people are criticising rashford for moving with the ball and not passing it to someone else, but I think that if it were before, rashford would score the goal and no one would criticise him. And that goes for Maguire as well. Maguire's performance has improved. And sometimes we should also be aware that a player used to have a bad season where he would not score more than two goals in a season. And I also noted that whenever a player scored a goal even once throughout a season, he used to play well because it inspired him to play more. I think Maguire will start playing well from this point forward.
Invariably we could say judging by this UCL match against Copenhagen, Manchester united is gradually showing some form of improvement, meanwhile a lot of work still needs to be done as some of the defenders are yet to show any form of improvement, Maguire is undoubtedly improving by almost every game and that's on him for personal improvement.

Onana saving a penalty shoot yesterday was epic and could be referred to as heroic aswell because if that goal was scored, they would have definitely gotten a draw which would be a very bad result for them, as they needed only but a win to keep them hopefully about having a chance for qualification to the next stage of the UCL, on a lighter note we could say the rejected ones turned out the heroes yesterday lol.
2854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 25, 2023, 08:59:22 AM
Comparing Erling Haaland to Son is completely out of the question because there is a substantial distinction between a player who is spoonfed hundreds of passes just for him to score and players who hustle their way out for this goals ranking. What I'm trying to comprehend completely is Son is more effective with footings on the ball than Erling Haaland who is only in it for the goals. Son Heung-Min's performance has improved since Harry Kane's departure from Tottenham this summer. All the weights that have circulated the Englishman have turned out to face Son, and he is ready to lead his squad to glory. Angelos Postecoglou, the new manager, is also an amazing piece of creativity that supports his players in competing for the EPL crown this season.
I'm glad you have same observation as mine, few weeks back before the international break, I watch one of the games Manchester city played in the premier league and I observed erling haaland carefully and came to a conclusion that he was typically a goal scorer but some other person's argued vhemently with me saying he is rather creative, but I still maintained my stands.

Haaland is a good play no doubts but on thing is sure if he were to be placed in such position as son, where he has to make the play, create the chances and score a goal, I don't think he will do better, son is a play maker, creative and hustles for his ball mean while haaland on the other hand as good good team mates up on which he is some how dependent upon, so the comparison doesn't have matching points.
2855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Educate yourself to be a frugal gambler on: October 24, 2023, 10:17:04 PM
Even though a topic like this has been discussed quite a lot, I still give my view on this matter. It is true that gambling is only for entertainment, it is not made as an investment or as a job for someone. If someone makes gambling their job or investment, it is the same as committing suicide, because what they will get is nothing and they might be trapped in an endless gambling cycle. That's why before gambling, a person must first understand how to manage their finances, because gambling activities are usually directly related to a person's financial condition, and mismanaging this can have bad consequences.

that is true, first and foremost, the person who would want himself to get involved with gambling activities should know possible repercussions in terms of his financials, mental health and other aspects of his life that will have direct impact because of this activity.
because if you will just follow your own desires, definitely, you can easily go to the brink of addiction.
while it is still early, much better manage your priorities in life and be firm about it. so you won't regret later on about your choices in life.

This something most persons do not consider before ever embarking on the gambling journey, they just think they would just make money and that's all that matters, just like they would talk about every job having their hazards associated with them gambling as well has its own but most persons don't look on that side and probably develop a coping mechanism before getting involved.

Their is a thin line between addiction and feeling like you are still in control, you can be addicted already while still feeling like you are still in control, but until you are hit severally by the after effects of addiction they you would be able to recognize how much you might have lost control while still thinking you are in control. If only people can exclusively gamble with the sole aim of having fun then there maybe no need to be frugal and all that.
2856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 24, 2023, 09:01:33 PM
Last season, Leverkusen were the team that finished 6th and also ensured them to go to the Europa League. This season they have shown a lot of improvement and now they can be at the top of the table with no losses. Xabi Alonso should be applauded for what he has done with Leverkusen. Although they have not been able to win the title, but in his hands Leverkusen became even better. I remember when Xabi first came, yes Leverkusen at that time was in a bad state and slowly Xabi could improve this team.
Leverkusen's improvement this season is one that deserves every commendation it's getting and I must say so far Xabi Alonso has proven himself to be one of the best they can get in the bundesliga, at this his very young coaching again, been able to build a team that is formidable enough to withstand Bayern Munich to a draw is almost uncommon as compared to Leverkusen form last season.

Leverkusen looks very promising this season and even if they happen to not win the league title, we could be sure they would finish top five and definitely qualify for UCL next season, not to forget they are still unbeaten aswell in the Europa league where they are still doing so well, if they putting in more effort as they do in the bundesliga, it's possible they could gat some out of the Europa league aswell but then they still have some tough teams to contend over there, nevertheless they are still doing so well, all thanks to Xabi Alonso.
2857  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 24, 2023, 08:35:17 PM
On the one hand it is unfortunate that Juventus are not in European competition, but on the other hand it is beneficial for them because they are not more tired than clubs that are competing in European competition.
Juventus are focused on the domestic league alone and they should be able to utilize it very well for them to perform optimally and even that is their chance to be able to win the Scudetto title again in Musi.
But even so, it is not a guarantee they will be able to easily win the title, because other clubs also have a strategy so that they can perform optimally despite having a busier schedule.
This has always been my point of view since the start of the season, Juventus has only the scudetto title to compete for, invariably they have enough time for everything, they play almost once a weak so they have the other remaining days of the week to strategies, plan, and rest. It's a big advantage they have over any other team in the serie A this season but sadly it seems they are not utilizing it enough.

Other teams have schedule of two to three games a week depending on how many titles they are fighting for in this season but here is Juventus with just one yet struggling so hard to be amongst the top three with people who have more than a tittle to contend for. They currently have a very poor and weak form and tactics and have not really had a good performance impressive enough since the season began they only manage to get to their current position on the table. Personally they don't look to me like they will win this title this season but if on the Long run they improve and win then I will gladly congratulate them.
2858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 24, 2023, 08:04:06 PM
Soon we are going to have Barcelona against Real Madrid and this game is very important for both teams because this time Real Madrid is in a better situation than Barcelona and they got expensive players like Jude Bellingham who is really talented and he even scored goals for this team instead of the forwards.
But the situation for Barcelona is not good at all and since Lewandowski is injured, Xavi asked the teams to make this player ready for this great match they are going to have against Real Madrid
  
So much have been said about this game as it's no news that it's between two big teams in the la Liga and it's definitely going to be interesting as one of the most anticipated in Spain currently, both teams are hoping to play at maximum capacity,(with their complete squads) because it's a very important match for them both as it will determine who has got the best of strength in comparison.

It's seems Barcelona would be having a weak spot with the intended featuring of lewandoski who is just recovering from injury, rumors have it that after this game he might go back for further treatment, which may mean he is not fully recovered. I don't know why Barcelona would want to put up such a risk when they have hot good substitute, nevertheless I hope he doesn't play full time else he may get another injury that may further worsen his current state. Bellingham is my greatest anticipation in this match as his performance always gat me wanting to see more of him, obviously Madrid is at an advantage in this game but till then I look forward to the out come but I'm not placing a bet on this game.
2859  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 24, 2023, 07:47:25 PM
I just don't want to say anything at the beginning of the game because anything can change at anytime but I know definitely that Bayern will win despite the pressure that was mounted on them by Galatasaray, Galatasaray played a very beautiful game but Bayern's player are very good in scoring goals, I like the way Galatasaray started the game it was aggressive which really impressed me even though Bayern have a early goal they still don't stop and if they continue like this they will end up at the second at the end of group stage.
Harry kane is a great player I like the way he plays, he scored one and also assisted, is because him I have confidence that Bayern will win.
Actually I was a bit scared when Galatasaray first scored a goal and they were on an offensive attacking pattern so for a moment I taught Bayern would have to struggle to get a win because Galatasaray is on an equalizer and they aswell have the home advantage, so I was nursing some level of doubt for a moment but it wasn't long in the early minutes of the second half Bayern got a second goal which restored all hope again

It was after Harry Kane scored the second goal been assisted by musiala I knew Bayern was definitely getting a win out of this and nothing less, I further became even more confident after Harry Kane assisted musiala to get the third goal, then I knew there was no going back for Munich as they are definitely getting a win with the complete three points, iys really Interesting how Harry Kane and musiala assisted each other to get a goal, it was a deserving win for Munich and I must say Galatasaray played so we'll aswell but they had a better contender who as well was having a good day lol.

2860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: October 24, 2023, 04:03:49 PM

2026 World Cup is around the corner, it might seem to be a long duration but I'm certain both players will reach their peak. Leo Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo chances of playing in the World Cup is slightly 80% and that could possibly happen. Checking their perspective stats in games, they're both doing brilliantly good and have pull a doubt of them meeting up the high demands of team's expectations and ultimate primary goals executions. I'm pretty confident about both players playing again in forthcoming World Cup, they're exceptionally outstanding and always ready to exhibits their very best.

It's very Tru that both player currently are doing exceptionally well in their various league where they currently play but what we are looking at is years from now, the world cup is literally in three years from now so how sure can we be that these players will maintain this frame of form till the next three yes time,  it's very possible they wouldn't be in the same form as they are now by then .

What seems very possible from my point of view is them playing in the various qualifying games for their various countries but actually participating in the world cup is still in doubts except there's a new FIFA policy that allows above 40yrs to play I'm the world cup, because both players would be in their 39th or 49rh years of age by the next world cup games, And if they eventually do expectations in they should be lowered as thy may most likely not meet up with such probably due to age factors which cannot be eliminated.
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