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2841  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If we lose in gambling, what do we need to do? on: October 16, 2023, 10:41:38 AM
Personally I think before starting gambling you should make a budget and have self control. When you lose your maximum daily loss/limit simply take some fresh air and reserve it for another day.

Indeed.

It's essential to have a budget for gambling aside from fund intended for your bills and other necessities so that you won't be left with a negative balance afterwards. Additionally, it's important to possess self-control so you won't get lost in gambling. Gambling is highly addictive and that's a fact. It's better to prevent addiction from happening than treating it once it happens to you already. Limiting yourself by having a fix fund allotment in gambling and by being disciplined enough will get you far without being doomed.

And certainly you must be able to use a budget that you can certainly be responsible for or means whatever happens to your money as a final result then accept it, you must be able to be a responsible gambler if you don't want to end up addicted. As we know that usually those who end up addicted are when they do not accept the defeat they experience, after that then they will continue to gamble with the intention of wanting to restore the defeat in the previous time, honestly that is not to be imitated friends, gambling is really only about luck, so even though you continue to pursue victory if in the end luck does not come then surely you will continue to lose and obviously instead of getting a victory but instead the amount of your losses is getting bigger there.

Nothing but some boundaries and self-control is for your own good too, I'm sure no one wants to end up addicted and in the same uncomfortable cycle as those who are already addicted. Therefore, as you said, it is better to prevent than to cure, because if you are late I am not sure you will be able to recover easily from the addiction, so think about it.
2842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler avoiding friends after a big win. on: October 16, 2023, 10:22:05 AM
Yes, if it can cause problems then you better consider it carefully, none other than for the good of our friendship too. I am the same as you, I also tell the victory to one of my friends who is very close to me, who indeed we have the same thoughts and understand each other. The point is that before I tell about the victory, I will first look at the character of some people, if the possibility of unwanted things can happen, it is better for me to keep it a secret and use the money for my personal needs.
It would be even better if they don't know we gamble, so there is no need to tell them about your gambling experience, whether you win or lose from gambling, so you can enjoy it yourself.

For people whose friends already know that you gamble, and see the character in your friends is very bad when you get a win in gambling, it should indeed be a step that needs to be taken is not to tell it to your friends, it can be told but you should know what your friends will do when you get a win, whether your friends ask or borrow or something else, when you have the intention to tell your friends it should already be a consideration for yourself sir.

Yes, as I said above, it's better to hide it than to tell people or friends around, because of course at least there will be ugliness that they might talk about behind saying that we are one of the stingy friends. whether it's a misunderstanding or whatever the point is, there will definitely be ugliness in friendship because of problems that should not be a problem.

True, I also like to look first at the character of the friends around me, if indeed they are very good to me in any case then at least I will definitely leave a little money from the victory to give to him. Unless like you said, if they have a bad character and lack solidarity in friendship then I will definitely hide it, don't care about them, for sure I will behave well to people who are also good to me and know the sign of gratitude.
2843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I can’t cope on my own. What do you think I should do? on: October 16, 2023, 09:56:16 AM
Yes, that's right, the average thing like that happens indeed to those who come with the intention of being able to get a lot of wins but in the end experience a lot of defeat and it happens usually always to those who come with the intention of earning or winning. Yes, with a casino that has set up a system there where the percentage of wins is much smaller than the losses, then with that alone they should not continue to pursue victory there, even though they can prove it themselves that even though they have tried several times but the results are always more losses, I think if they don't listen to advice like this then and don't prevent it then it will only waste time and money, because according to what I have said above and you also said it that the number of defeats will be more and more, it is clear.

The number of wins and losses as long as they gamble will definitely be greater than the losses if they carry that mindset and intention, and of course I agree that strangely when they have managed to get a win I say it's not a real win because obviously they will be greedy in that condition, hoping that they will be able to win more, even though it's just an instinct of hope, and finally well all their money is gone again. That's right, basically whether or not they recover is up to them.
So they must realize that their intention to achieve many wins will be difficult so they don't need to try hard to get it. And if they stay like that, they will only experience many defeats they might never have imagined. They can accept those small wins first because they can get big wins later, especially if they get lucky at the right time. So they don't need to think about getting that big win, but just play enough and end the gambling game when they feel like they've gambled enough.

And even though using enough money can result in losses for them, they can prevent those losses from getting bigger. And of course, they still have money in their balance that can be used to gamble again another day. They shouldn't think about getting more wins if they can win because that won't always be easy. They must understand that gambling will not provide gamblers with more frequent wins.

Yes, that's what they should really realize, none other than for their own good, if they can't reach that awareness then maybe they can take advice or consider some advice from the people closest to them so that there is a little encouragement to realize. In addition, it is useless if they continue to play with the intention of finding victory there, not impossible but very difficult because obviously getting victory is much more difficult than defeat, they will be able to get the victory if they have sacrificed several or even dozens of defeats, it is very clear that if the sum is definitely greater than the loss, so it is very silly if they say that it is a victory.

Agree, we really don't need to think about winning there, just you come with the aim of having fun with a budget that you can lose or account for if you lose, that's better, because no one can predict when you will be lucky, and even though you bring a small budget if you are lucky then you will be able to get the victory that is always expected. So there is no point if you think of all the ways to get a win, whatever budget you bring does not matter, if you are lucky then you can win.
2844  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 15, 2023, 04:11:10 PM
I'd like to see those changes first, because there's no doubt it will affect them. Real Madrid are the favorites for now, but they still have some gaps that Barcelona can exploit.

In Several seasons ago I didn't like El Classico because of the different qualities where one team was stronger and the other team was weaker. This happened after the Messi-Ronaldo era. But this season El Classico is one of the matches that I am really looking forward to because both teams are in their best form and both also have equal quality. Real Madrid were slightly better and they only conceded 6 goals compared to Barca who conceded 10 goals. This shows that Madrid has a very good defense which of course is a homework for Xavi to dismantle Madrid's defense.
It's natural to feel that way, especially when Barcelona were in a slump at the time. But they've come a long way under Xavi, and last season they even beat Real Madrid.
Talking about the Messi and Ronaldo Era, maybe I can say that it is an Era where El Clasico matches are much more interesting. Because it is not only 2 clubs that meet there, but also in the match that brings together 2 star players who always compete for who is the best among them.  Now it is very difficult for us to see el clasico just like during their era, something that I will miss.
2845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 15, 2023, 03:56:40 PM

Without Kevin de Bruyne in the team, Haaland's performance on the pitch suffers. He makes a difference with his high performance and contributes to his teammates on the pitch. He is a very valuable player for Manchester City. Undoubtedly, his absence is felt a lot in the team. However, Manchester City and Pep Guardiola should have planned this. They should have brought in a good substitute who could be an alternative to Kevin de Bruyne. However, it seems that Manchester City and Pep Guardiola have not made any preparations in this regard. I think they should have calculated this before.
To be honest, I previously thought that KDB's absence wouldn't have too much effect on the way they attacked because I saw that they had an even squad. But after I saw the matches they played after playing without KDB, it was undeniable that it had a big effect. Even a Haaland who used to be a ferocious predator has gone downhill now. There is still a gap from their main players and second-tier players that is their current weakness. Pep must also be aware of this, and he must prepare more now, because it really affects the results of their matches.
Well Guordiola thinks he had the solution to team in the absence of the injured Kevin de Bruyne unfortunately non of the players who played that role hasn't live up to expectations, Foden who played the role hasn't make any impact, Silva and Kovacic couldn't make any difference likewise, therefore the way forward for Man City means the team would just have to cope with the absence of Kevin de Bruyne and it's very obvious the team has been struggling at their attack due to non clear cutting assist and passes to Haaland for him to score, now with look of things Man City would struggle to defend their league title this season.
Now they must start thinking about bringing in players in that crucial position, this is a valuable lesson for them and they must respond quickly.
I heard their interest in signing Tony Kroos, but I think it would be better if they recruit and target plyers younger than Tony Kroos. I don't doubt Tony Kroos' ability at all, he's a genius as a midfielder, but I'm more concerned about the regeneration that Manchester City need to do.
Halaand is like missing a sniper who can aim accurately.



Yes it's true indeed, the impact caused by Kevin de Bruyne injury had a negative impact on Manchester City attack line. Therefore, at least there is nothing that can be hidden for Manchester City, because in fact so far Manchester City has had a high dependence on Kevin de Bruyne in midfield. With the bad results that have occurred at this moment, of course Pep Guardiolan will be required to succeed in providing good performance and results, without Kevin de Bruyne. So yes, at least it will be a difficult job for Pep Guardiola at this moment to be able to recover Manchester City quickly .
Once we didn't see Manachester City having a gap, it was finally exposed after KDB couldn't play. It's an unpredictable situation and I think Pep also didn't expect it before, that KDB's role is indeed very important. In fact, the player who was placed to replace him also could not show the game like KDB showed when he took that role.
This is football, sometimes things that are not expected beforehand are a weakness for a very strong club. It may seem that they are evenly matched, but in reality losing 1 main player can change the situation.
2846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 15, 2023, 03:41:15 PM
Roma are on the rise by the recent a couple of games in the league. They Frosinone and Cagliari with really satisfying level of scores you know. These victories must have helped them improve their morale quite much. Because they started the season horrible and I don't even want to talk about that Genoa game.  Sad

Next time they have another comfortable game on paper. While they are on a good winning streak I hope to see them maintaining it. But I must add an important piece of info like Monza haven't lost a game for many weeks. Roma had better give their best into this game.
Roma have shown a big turnaround after suffering defeat to Genoa and they have managed to win three matches in a row so far. Lulaku has become one of the goal scorers for Roma at the moment and he quickly adapted to Jose Mourinho's strategy because he had previously been trained by Jose Mourinho at several previous clubs. Now Roma is in 10th place in the standings and I think they will continue to produce good results in the next match.

Roma's next match is against Monza and this is a challenge for Jose Mourinho to get points, especially since this match will be held at Roma's home ground so it is their obligation to get full points in order to move up to a better position in the standings
Quite happy with what AS Roma achieved in their last 2 matches, after at the beginning they were very difficult to get a victory. Now they are better, but that's not enough because they have to improve more in every game, so they can improve their ranking in the standings slowly and move up to a better ranking.

In the European League they also played well, they swept 2 wins from the 2 matches they played. In the next match they will face SK Slavia Parha and it will be decisive for their position.
2847  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 15, 2023, 03:22:25 PM

No matter how business minded the Borussia Dortmund management wants to be, they should know that Borussia Dortmund should've been one of the strongest clubs in not just in Germany but in Europe at large.
I think the club should stop the policy of always selling their best players to another club but rather they should build a strong team that'll be major contenders for German and European competition in coming years from now. We must break the deadlock
But it can't be stopped as long as they want to stabilize the balance sheet and make the intimacy every season ka they and don't want to get out of the zone.
Dortmund are actually full of talented young players, it's just that with their condition that every season only wants profit from player sales, then they will continue to do it because Dortmund thinks this is the best way for them to get profit and they can't change it.
Dortmund could stop selling their talented players and try to make greater competition in the Bundesliga, but with  such changes they must try to withstand all forms of risk, especially in terms of financial stability  that might be affected. 
The question that arises when they do that is how long will they do it? The risk will always be there, and even though they alwasy make a profit every season from the sales they make, the question is whether they will always be in a state where they will always be able to benefit from the star players they create? I have no doubt that they are the club with the most genius in spotting young talent. But risks must also be taken, because they also need titles as a club. They have the ability to do that, it's just a matter of how they intend to do it.
2848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 15, 2023, 03:07:03 PM

Bayern Munich are the favorite of everyone in this group. It's too early to say that Galatasaray will advance to the next round. But if Manchester United lose points against Copenhagen, I will start to think that Galatasaray will qualify for the next round.



I also think that no club apart from Munich and Galatasaray have a big chance of qualifying from Group A. Copenhagen has only collected one point. Actually I favor United as runners up but if you look at these 2 defeats then United's chances of qualifying are almost impossible. Even though it's still early but I see everyone also agrees that Munich and Galatasaray will qualify even though there are still 4 matches left for each club.
They entered the 3rd match, if Bayern Munich could beat Galatasaray and Manchester United won against Copenhagen, then it would open up a bigger opportunity for Manchester United, because if the scenario I said happened then the gap between Galatasaray and Manchester United narrowed to 1 point. In the second leg the situation can change greatly and we do not know what will happen, and maybe Manchester United can be even better. Bayern Munich is the club that has definitely qualified, for the runner up we still have to see Mancehsetr UNited first.
2849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: October 15, 2023, 02:52:42 PM
Not just Messi but I think that's the same for any other player and they need to accept any person will get old one day and they are not going to be the same as their years ago and payers like Ronaldo and Messi will have the same situation.
They had a good performance a few years ago when they were younger but these days we can't see the same good performance from them and that's why I think a player like Messi should not be in the next World Cup.
Ronaldo Is definitely going to accept a call from the Portuguese team if called upon because he still looks like he is interested in playing in the world cup for the last time before he finally retires, there are speculations he may want to retire by 2027 so he would want to play again in the world cup before retirement but I don't think age factor would be fair with him

Messi would be 39 by the next world cup and he is yet to make an official statement as regards if he will be playing in the world cup or not but then people are still speculating his appearance in the next world cup and hoping that will be his point not retirement, but then I think Messi would really want to participate because he may be too old at that time to participate in the world cup games but then if we see him participate then that's fine but if not it's not a problem too.
The silence of the players we are talking about regarding when they will retire is an interesting one at the moment. I'm kind of revisiting the conversation before the Qatar World Cup. I'm going to assume here.
Assuming that they're going to feature again in the next World Cup, then surely we'll all be paying special attention to them, and actually that happened in the last World Cup as well. Qatar World Cup being the event where Messi finally got the World Cup title, is it Ronaldo's turn? It's a pretty wild thought, but it's a question that keeps coming back to me. Lol
2850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 15, 2023, 02:33:23 PM
According to a news from Fabrizio,when asked about the future, Ronaldo made a statement saying that the doesn't think about the future, that the thinks about the short term and enjoy it, that could mean that their are chances that he could decide to leave or remain at his current club and enjoy the moments, he's already got a trophy with the club, I believe he'll try getting the Saudi Pro League title before he leaves Al-Nassr or resign from football.

 Well I  believe he wouldn't want to go against the contract he had with Al-Nassr and decide to resign before the contract expires he'll probably extend his contract for 1 or more season and get a huge increment on his salary, he's been one of the major contribution for the team's success and I don't think they'll want let him leave sooner.

We know that Ronaldo is a person who is ambitious about everything and as long as he hasn't won the Saudi League title with Al-Nassr, of course he doesn't want to leave that soon. During his time with European teams, Ronaldo always won the title he wanted and now it is Al-Nassr's turn to wait for Ronaldo's magic to win the Saudi League title after last season they failed to do so. It is also possible that the ACL title will also be his next target and will be paired with the Saudi League title and that is still possible considering that his contract with Al-Nassr is still sufficient to do that. I think the right place for him to return home after this long journey is back to Sporting Lisbon where he started his career. If he returns there he can still play in the Champions League.
Ambitious and always able to prove it is a character that Ronaldo has. But with his statements like Fabrizio said, it seems like his ambition level has decreased, I don't know why but I'm sure it's related to his age. Indeed, at his age, enjoying the latter part of his career is a must. I mean his contribution to a big club, not even just for his club Al Nassr but for the continuity of the League as well. Because it cannot be denied, the rise in popularity of the Arab League that we see now is indirectly inseparable from the role of Ronaldo who accepted Al Nassr's offer at first.
2851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 15, 2023, 02:16:09 PM
Marseille under new manager still find their shape and so far since Gattuso train this team Marseille has through an 3 matches in all competitions and the results is not quite bad because from those matches Marseille only gets 1 lose from Monaco and 1 win with big scores against Le Havre and actually Marseille has targetting top 4 at the end of this season and if Gattuso can able to achieve that target then the owner will extended his contract

Next weekend Marseille has gets strong opponent Nice and we all know Nice this season has been so impressive and they can occupy second position which is never happend before and this match also as the real test for Marseille consistency and just like i said before Nice has strong defense so this is good challenge for Marseille whether they can able to stole points from Nice or not Marseille will tasted 2nd loses under Gattuso and for betting option this time Nice is the favourite with odds @2.37
Gattuso didn't stay with teams for long when appointed as a coach. This could suggest that he might not have the qualities required to be a successful coach. The teams he managed previously seemed disorganized. However, at Marseille, things seem to be going better. Coaching Olympique Marseille is a challenging task, but Gattuso seems determined to become a promising coach there. The upcoming match against Nice is anticipated to be challenging for both teams, and Nice occupy second standing in the league doesn't guarantee an easy victory.
It's not bad, but it's not good either. I think they are still lucky when they are in 6th place now, why? in my opinion they are in the current position because other clubs have performances that are not better than them. Their performance at the end of last season they carried over to this season, last season in their last 5 matches, Marseille could only record 1 win, while for 4 other matches they had to lose, that made them lose the competition with Lens last season.
But when compared to Lens, this season Lens is so bad that they even have to be thrown to 14th place in the standings.
2852  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 15, 2023, 02:01:11 PM
Barcelona already doesn't have much money and in trouble, making this transfer shouldn't really be a priority for them, not right now at least .I would say their current roster is as good as they could hope for and should let them be, just let the season end without any moves.

Do not buy anyone, do not sell anyone and just keep the season going to see how they will end. They are going to finish fine both at league and UCL, they will go to probably around quarter finals for UCL and finish either first or second in the league for sure. That is good for a team with that much debt, they need to keep that going without spending much money to feel happy, they won a title last year, they can't keep winning it every year.

This would result with them gradually having less and less debt, however if they end up getting Mitoma then it is going to hurt them a lot more and they do not have that kind of money, if they keep doing these moves then they will never be able to pay it back.
At a time when all the clubs are improving their squads, Barcelona should stay silent? I don't think that's a good thing to do. Because change will always be there when the transfer market comes and that should be used to strengthen their squad. Maybe financially they're not ready to do that, but there's always the option to do that, as long as it's not too much that will make their debts swell, I think it can be done.
Selling players and taking the profit and allocating it to new players is something they can do. Because if they just stand still without making any moves, it is feared that they will be overtaken by the clubs below them.
2853  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 15, 2023, 01:46:27 PM
The first El Clasico of the season isn't slated to take place in two weeks time from now which means that some members of the Barcelona squad are gonna be back from their injury before the all important game against Real Madrid that'll be played in the famous Barcelona stadium Camp Nou.
I expect Barcelona manager Xavi Hernandez to device a means and dish out the best tactical approach that'll help his side get a good result against a Real Madrid side that's been on impressive form since the start of the season.

Their most recent match was in the United States, witnessing a display of destruction from coach Xavi and his team. Even though it was just a friendly match, the El Clasico match was exciting right from the first minutes. Barcelona crushed Real Madrid with a score of 3-0. When Real Madrid just lost their pillar Karim Benzema.
But now the victory is somewhat in favor of Real Madrid. Their lineup is almost complete. Jude Bellingham is the name that will help Real Madrid avenge the recent feud. Barcelona is showing its weakness without a pillar. We can see they have struggled against small teams. What will coach Xavi do in this situation?
El clasico is always a much-anticipated match. Although in terms of strength there is a difference, but when these 2 clubs meet then they seem different from usual. 2 Weeks is still quite a long time away, there are matches that they have to pass and maybe between them they have to lose pillar players due to several things, such as injuries for example. I'd like to see those changes first, because there's no doubt it will affect them. Real Madrid are the favorites for now, but they still have some gaps that Barcelona can exploit.
2854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 15, 2023, 01:30:05 PM

Without Kevin de Bruyne in the team, Haaland's performance on the pitch suffers. He makes a difference with his high performance and contributes to his teammates on the pitch. He is a very valuable player for Manchester City. Undoubtedly, his absence is felt a lot in the team. However, Manchester City and Pep Guardiola should have planned this. They should have brought in a good substitute who could be an alternative to Kevin de Bruyne. However, it seems that Manchester City and Pep Guardiola have not made any preparations in this regard. I think they should have calculated this before.
To be honest, I previously thought that KDB's absence wouldn't have too much effect on the way they attacked because I saw that they had an even squad. But after I saw the matches they played after playing without KDB, it was undeniable that it had a big effect. Even a Haaland who used to be a ferocious predator has gone downhill now. There is still a gap from their main players and second-tier players that is their current weakness. Pep must also be aware of this, and he must prepare more now, because it really affects the results of their matches.
2855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: October 15, 2023, 01:14:23 PM
~snip~
If the work doesn't need the supervision of his boss, that's fine. Even if he is playing Dota in his cubicle, it will just be fine as long he can submit results in time. But maybe to some bosses it will be a problem especially if the rest of the employees also play more. This is using the company's resources for your benefit.

But whatever is prohibited is always the most desirable. So even if the bosses doesn't want employees to play/gamble while working I'm sure we do it whenever there is a chance as long as we can use our phones.
If so, that means he can gamble at work. But in any case, it is best for someone not to carry out activities that are not related to work at work so that it will not interfere with their work. But I see people playing online games at work because they are waiting for other work to finish, which happens in many places.

So it depends on each person because some people still play on their phones at work. Some people don't play because they feel they are at work, and it would be unethical if they played at work. And some people work but also play games. But it's best not to play any games when someone is working.

That's right, although there may be absolutely no supervision from their superiors that they dare to gamble, but still this is an act that should not be done by anyone. You have to be able to put something in its place, if it's time to work then work, don't do other activities outside of that, especially gambling, it's not recommended. Why? I said some of the effects of gambling such as maybe emotions when losing will affect your work, and after that you will not be able to focus on work, one day surely your boss will question your performance decreases, and the bad risk is because of that you could be terminated.

Gambling is just for fun and to complete your empty time, maybe when off work or whatever, certainly when you have no other activities then you can gamble to relieve boredom a little, I think that's all. So you have to be able to put things in the right portion.
2856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sometimes just flex it ( luck is all you need) on: October 15, 2023, 12:31:00 PM
In sport betting the real money is in the parlays.Yesterday I saw someone having hit a x437.5 odd ticket and the games had started since last week Champions League and ended yesterday night,it was one of those that it is called long haul run in parlays but it is also where the money is as that guy had bet about 0.5 Binance coin BNB so his winnings were substantial and really hefty chunk like you say.

So for me is not throwing money away,is trying to improve your amount of money but knowing that most of the times you will lose parlays and when you hit one big one it can make a difference like the one I described above.
That was one lucky hit, and it obviously doesn't work for everyone like that. Even though I know that sports betting isn't completely based on one's luck and it requires a lot of knowledge and experience about the sport that is being bet on, it still involves some amount of luck, especially if you are doing a parlay which are even more difficult to win. So, the guy who managed to get a x437 on a parlay was obviously extremely lucky to be able to hit that.

These wins are basically the reason why many people go for it thinking that they might hit a very high multiplier but getting disappointed at the end because it doesn't work out for them. So, it's all gambling at the end of the day, and some will make it and most will not, that's why one shouldn't expect a lot from it.
I think he was very lucky that's why he won so much but it's not always possible because no one can give exact guarantee of winning in gambling it's mostly about luck. Sports betting If you become good at skill based games in good gambling and can constantly convince people to compete against you can make a full time living playing the game. These games are easy to spot because they are games where players compete not against the house but with other players.

I've been in that position, and well with you in a position like that then I'm sure you will feel like great, feel like you can conquer the casino, there will definitely be assumptions like that that come out of their minds so that's where greed usually starts, they will continue to try again because they really feel great. The first try they may still succeed but in the next two or three tries I'm sure defeat will dominate again. This is gambling, as you said that the final result will not always be what they want, it is obviously in the concept of luck, and of course there is no guarantee at all for victory.

For sports betting itself, well it's true that it really requires skill if you have it and also with some analysis that you can do to increase your chances of winning, although yes the final result still refers to luck as well, but sports betting is superior to gambling which really only relies on luck.
2857  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler avoiding friends after a big win. on: October 15, 2023, 11:46:44 AM
Well that's right, this can really make misunderstandings or end up with misunderstandings, and of course their friendship at least will definitely be tenuous, I really understand how when you are in such conditions and indeed I have also experienced the same thing. The role of money can indeed be an intermediary for us to find out how the real nature of the person is, whether our friends or relatives or whoever it is, money is very sensitive. Everyone wants money but not everyone wants to give money to others for free. If we really don't want to give a small portion of our winnings to others then it's better to keep it a secret, because of course if you tell but don't share the winnings at all then there will definitely be misunderstandings, even though there are other factors that are the reason why you don't give it, but other people won't care about all your reasons, they won't believe it.
This has often happened to many people where friendly relationships that were previously fine, after dealing with money, everything falls apart and they even become enemies. Money can change a person quickly because human nature can change according to what happens. That's why we have to differentiate between what we need to tell other people and what we need to hide from others. We don't need to tell everything in detail to other people, especially those who are not our family, because that could cause misunderstandings and various kinds of thoughts from them.

True, I think everyone will definitely know about this problem and most of them I'm sure they must have experienced it, as we know money is very sensitive, no matter if it's other people, close friends or their own family, there will always be misunderstandings and of course with talk behind them. Therefore, to be honest, when I experience problems like this, whether it's money from gambling or anything that is definitely about money problems, I always try to give in, none other than I do it because I am afraid there will be ugliness in terms of friendship relationships that should have high solidarity. So by giving in, there will be no excessive problems. Or it's better not to tell them anything, as we discussed above, rather than causing problems, especially misunderstandings, it's better to keep it a secret. I understand they are very enthusiastic when they get the victory but they should be able to think again, if they tell it to many of their friends then surely they will ask for the money, and if you don't want to give it then it's better to keep quiet, from the beginning don't ever tell anything about the victory.
 
There is nothing better unless you hide it, I'm sure you want your relationship to remain good with friends, so it's better to hide it, rather than causing problems that don't have to be a problem, if they don't know then obviously they won't ask anything or even borrow money, well it's true that if you still want to give your friends such as treating friends to food then you can just find another reason, the point is not to mention that the money is the result of gambling winnings.
Yes, that's what I do if I don't need to tell my best friend anything. I also sort out what I can tell my friends and what I can't so there are clear understandings between you. And to tell about my winnings in gambling, maybe only friends who are really close to me will tell. For the others, I won't tell them about my winnings but I'll buy them food and drinks to enjoy together.

Yes, if it can cause problems then you better consider it carefully, none other than for the good of our friendship too. I am the same as you, I also tell the victory to one of my friends who is very close to me, who indeed we have the same thoughts and understand each other. The point is that before I tell about the victory, I will first look at the character of some people, if the possibility of unwanted things can happen, it is better for me to keep it a secret and use the money for my personal needs.
2858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: October 15, 2023, 11:20:00 AM
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Of course, because the curiosity they feel will raise some questions when they see their parents gambling, and it is natural for a child with a lot of innocence in him, it doesn't matter if the parents think gambling in front of their children is a mistake, because of course the next time they will not do the same thing like that, but what is worried is when their parents invite or teach or answer some of their children's questions honestly or according to the facts and do not divert the conversation at all. If the parents do that then I am sure there will be a much higher curiosity from the child, they will continue to ask questions at a later time.

Basically a child who is still underage, especially one who is only 7 - 10 years old, will not really understand whether there is a risk or not, all they think about is fun for whatever comes, so of course we adults must be able to take action to prevent or minimize so that the things that are worried about do not happen. There is no other way because children will not care about anything you do, all they want is something fun, so the point is that we or the parents themselves must take precautions, that's all.
Kids (bless their innocent hearts) are sponges, absorbing up everything, especially risky, gambling stuff. Ever thought about making gambling education fun? Ironic, right? Consider creating a kiddie version of gambling where they bet cookies or toys with you and lose. It's a great way to show that gambling can empty the cookie jar!

Yes, youngsters see enjoyment, not risk. The message should be tailored to them. Instead of avoiding their enquiries, answer them in a way that fits their understanding. Your kids will certainly repeat their questions; they adore a broken record. But isn't that consistent interest where grownups can smuggle in life lessons between the funny stories of losing all our cookies in a high-stakes game of "Go Fish"?

Agree with your assumption, small children are really like sponges, they are able to absorb everything around them such as information quite quickly and their memory is also still very high, therefore this is very suitable for the topic above "never gamble in front of children", none other than this is just to prevent unwanted things from happening. Honestly, I can't stop thinking if there are some of them or including their parents who teach gambling to their children, it doesn't make sense, no matter how bad the parents are, they always want the best for their children.

Fun comes first for those who are still underage, of course there is no risk that they think about, they only focus on laughing because it is very fun. Honestly, I'm sure parents will never let their children fall into gambling, they will definitely be able to answer some questions that make their children curious, and I'm sure they can distract their children from gambling with a few jokes. And yeah I agree with your analogy, it makes sense my friend.
2859  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I can’t cope on my own. What do you think I should do? on: October 15, 2023, 10:54:28 AM
Of course, because if they come to focus on finding victory then I'm sure the number of losses is far more than the victory, that's for sure, because the casino has arranged everything and the real victory is only purely for the casino itself, and you only get a little. But strangely they always think that if they try it again then surely they will be able to get a win to compensate for the losses in the previous time, honestly I am really strange with that kind of mindset, even though no one can predict when you will win, but to lose is definitely more often. and I say that's the disease that every gambling addict suffers from. Of course if the wrong mindset continues to be allowed then surely they will be worse off and obviously things that are not wanted will happen.

Honestly, I also can't think that people who are already addicted can recover with just advice, maybe it will be able to help but I think the chances are very small but this is a pretty good alternative and hopefully even with advice they can realize, no one knows. So the point is that gambling is really only about luck, no matter how often you play, if luck does not come then you will continue to lose, so the point is to try to think more wisely and realistically.
Many have proven that if they come to the casino and gamble to win, they can experience more losses than they previously lost. They should know that and not try hard to win because they must also use more money. Apart from that, the amount of winnings will also not be too big compared to their winnings, so they don't need that mindset. Most of them will continue to play even though they have won because human nature always wants something more. But we don't need to follow what they do, especially since we already have gambling experience, so we have to control ourselves so we don't experience more losses. We must have the mindset of not chasing victory so we don't become greedy and feel enough after winning to stop gambling.

As long as the addicted person strongly desires to recover, they can recover. Strong intentions, hard efforts to cure his gambling addiction, encouragement and support from his family, and prayer will be a good way to recover from his gambling addiction. And they have to do it because if they don't, they might return to gambling. Gambling is only for fun and not to chase wins.

Yes, that's right, the average thing like that happens indeed to those who come with the intention of being able to get a lot of wins but in the end experience a lot of defeat and it happens usually always to those who come with the intention of earning or winning. Yes, with a casino that has set up a system there where the percentage of wins is much smaller than the losses, then with that alone they should not continue to pursue victory there, even though they can prove it themselves that even though they have tried several times but the results are always more losses, I think if they don't listen to advice like this then and don't prevent it then it will only waste time and money, because according to what I have said above and you also said it that the number of defeats will be more and more, it is clear.

The number of wins and losses as long as they gamble will definitely be greater than the losses if they carry that mindset and intention, and of course I agree that strangely when they have managed to get a win I say it's not a real win because obviously they will be greedy in that condition, hoping that they will be able to win more, even though it's just an instinct of hope, and finally well all their money is gone again. That's right, basically whether or not they recover is up to them.
2860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 14, 2023, 06:15:55 PM

It's not yet week 10, and the current situation is still very changeable. Usually we will see the schemed position after the league finishes the half season, there we will start to see something that will then be used as a basis in predicting what the end of the season will be like. The situation at the beginning is not easy to predict, because almost all clubs are still looking for their form, and although there are clubs that quickly find their form it is not a guarantee that throughout the season they will stay in the same game, it can improve and what we see more is that clubs tend to decline.

Well, it is too early to predict what is going to happen. But I can predict something with confidence and that is PSG is not winning the Champions League competition. I have huge confidence in this particular prediction.

I am also going to make another prediction. I think PSG might be able to win the Ligue-1 title. But they will have to work really hard for that as well. And throughout the season, they are going to be inconsistent. With the kind of situation, they are in right now, I do not think expecting too much from them is actually going to be clever idea.
It would be a different story if we were talking about Paris Saint Germain in the Champions League. They have fallen far behind the other clubs that are in the Champions League. I dare say that because I'm presented with that view if I look at them and also look at the other clubs that are there.
I think many will agree with what I said. I will take 1 club that is the defending champion in the Champions League, Manchester City. If we compare them, then we will see a significant difference, despite Paris Saint Germain's status as a big club in Ligue 1.
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