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28521  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: September 12, 2016, 04:47:14 PM
They are for sale, but have RAISED the prices:


ANTMINER S9-B15, 12.93TH/s,shipping out within 7 days after fully paid
Speed:    12.93
Weight:    5.5 kg
Price:       1540 USD
               ( 2.56 BTC )

ANTMINER S9-B14, 11.85TH/s,shipping out within 7 days after fully paid.
Speed:    11.85
Weight:    5.5 kg
Price:       1382 USD
               ( 2.297 BTC )

Er, B12 11.85 was $1442 and 12.93 was $1600, so at least it is slightly lower, NOT higher.

It needs to be slightly higher with six month warranty.
28522  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: September 12, 2016, 04:01:02 PM
They are for sale, but have RAISED the prices:


ANTMINER S9-B15, 12.93TH/s,shipping out within 7 days after fully paid
Speed:    12.93
Weight:    5.5 kg
Price:       1540 USD
               ( 2.56 BTC )

ANTMINER S9-B14, 11.85TH/s,shipping out within 7 days after fully paid.
Speed:    11.85
Weight:    5.5 kg
Price:       1382 USD
               ( 2.297 BTC )

Good price raise means warranty is now 180 days like I asked them to do>

Just kidding


But it is what they should do.  Raise price and 2x warranty.

It has become clear to all of us that these chips break easier this is not a knock against bitmaintech it is a simple fact the the 14-16nm chips at ½ the size of the 28nm chips and they have more power leakage and defects.
Intel has had more dead 6600k chips and more dead 6700k chips and reports of issues of the smaller chips burning up including the asics in the s-9.

I have cheap power  I can make money on an s-9 if it keeps running a long time.
I can not make money on dead s-9's. 

Basically  buying these with 90 day warranty is a no go at this price.
Buying this with a 180 day warranty is a maybe at this price.
Buying this with a 360 day warranty is a yes even if the price bumps up to 1450 from 1382 for the 11.85th
Buying the 12.93th for  1600 is worth it with a long 360 day warranty.

I simply ask to  buy my gear with a longer warranty  I would pay extra up front for longer warranty.
28523  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Sept 12 to ? Prize = $50.00 Picks are yet to open. on: September 12, 2016, 03:57:28 PM
wow the last one.  Well thanks for all the fun times Smiley

Yeah  I just am a little too stretched to run the thread anymore.

I have the Solar Array going with the bad s-9 boards 2 of 18 so far.  I do not know how long the gear will last.
I have a lot in the ETH & XMR gear  which takes time.
I did my Kitchen and while it came nice  the contractors took 3x the promised time 90 days vs 30 days.

I also plan on 2 baths and a bedroom over the next six months and I don't want to get jerked around like I did this time.

Lastly I no longer have a signature to use to fund the thread.

We gave more then 6 coins away.  Of which I did 3  the other was funded by a different forum member.

I had a few donations from some guys that was good and made up for lost funds with bitfenix which was where I kept the funds for the thread.  All in all this was a lot of fun.

When we first gave away coins BTC was under 200 bucks  it is now near 610.
Diff was under 40  it is now over 225.
blocks were 25 they are now 12.5
s-3 was 500 s-9 was 2000

Miners were .8 watts in the form of the s-3
Miners are now .1 watts in the form of the s-9

So diff went up 6
½ is a factor of 2 
gear price is a factor of 4
so  6 x 2 x 4 =  48 worse


efficiency went 8 better
price went 3 better

so 8 x 3 = 24 better

so mining profit  is 2x worse 
28524  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: My warranty adventure with my s-9. on: September 12, 2016, 01:43:23 PM
Second board is on the truck and I will get it today.  this was a 650 board I wonder if replacement will be same.

I will bring gear to solar array on tues and set it back up.

I have 2 boards one is marked as a 650m v2 the other as a v4 but no freq it should be a 550m  but since the lowest rated board is a 550m  no marking of freq should not be an issue.

I will install on tues.

along with sloppy/finksy plates for dual dps- 2000 psu's

I will post a phot or two here with the new boards in just a minute or 2.
28525  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain Announces the Antminer R4 and APW5 Power Supply, Designed for Silence on: September 12, 2016, 01:35:02 PM
R4 is back on sale but same 1395 price. I would like buy but price is insane ROI 1 year or something, warranty 90days and they don't seem to honor even that, mining GAMBLE.

Funny how it came back on sale once btc price dropped.  I would get one with a better warranty  but since I killed 2 of 18 s-9 boards  while running them on a down clock  the 90 warranty  simple does not work for me.

My first 2 s-9's lose their warranty in 2 days.
My second set of 2 s-9's lost their warranty in under 2 weeks.

My fifth s-9 has 50 days on warranty.

I can not afford an r4 with a 90 day  warranty.

So since I mine I will get one more gpu to mine more ETH to sell for BTC.

My 22 gpus and all the rest of the pc gear have 2 year warranties.  Bitmaintech's warranty policy makes it very hard for me to buy from them.

Avalon comes out with the model 7  if they simply give a 6 month warranty and does service for it  they could compete very well.
28526  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [40+PH] Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,JP,FR,NL on: September 12, 2016, 01:33:43 PM
my 2nd replacement hash board arrives today.

so by tomorrow the solar array should be up to 5 full s-9's vs 3 full and 2 at ⅔

I should be at 57th - 58 th
Looking for a run of blocks by Phil starting tomorrow Cheesy Cheesy

I  don't know about that  a run of three in a week  at 58th would be quite a long shot.
28527  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [40+PH] Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,JP,FR,NL on: September 12, 2016, 01:27:39 PM
my 2nd replacement hash board arrives today.

so by tomorrow the solar array should be up to 5 full s-9's vs 3 full and 2 at ⅔

I should be at 57th - 58 th
28528  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience Compac BM1384 Stickminer Official Support Thread on: September 12, 2016, 01:24:10 PM
But if you sell the hub and PSU, what are you gonna do when a newer better stick comes out?
 

I still have two 19 port hubs with better psu's  so I am set for the newer sticks.

28529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new XMR+ ETH thread builds info and other stuff thoughts and photos included. on: September 12, 2016, 01:22:52 PM
So, on the CPU side, I am under the impression that a good one (like 6800k or 5820k) can mine almost as much XMR as 1 of the 470s i have coming.  If you look at the list below, it shows CPUs like a very old i5-3520m providing a hash rate of 438 K/s and a i5-3570k getting 344.  I have not seen benchmarks for any 5th or 6th gen 800k series like I mentioned above but would assume that since they are much more advanced than those 3rd gen CPUs on this list, they should be able to mine XMR in the 500-700 M/s range. If i had to pay the full $400+ for these it might not be worthwhile but since I can get them for $200, it seemed to be a good idea... if they will indeed get around 600.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MI-ic0Os25hgGUImW54sUIjZY_pUNQNa_W8Se5pRGBs/edit#gid=0

Now that I looked up that g4500 CPU Phil mentioned though, I see that it only pulls 65W as compared to the 140W of the ones I was considering, so that obviously should be factored in.

I'm curious... have you or are you able to ascertain what hash rate you are able to get solely from that g4500 mining XMR?  I would like to try to figure out the difference to do an ROI calc but again, I'm also kind of speculating on the capabilities of the 800k's so might be tough. But, even my VERY old i7-2600k is averaging about 100 H/s, so seems as though a current version could get 5-6x that.

I guess my other question would be, if I am dedicated to building a rig capable of 5-6 GPUs, could that g4500 even handle that?  Do you have it running any of your 4-card rigs?


Yes I have an i3-6100t and a g4500  running the two four card rigs  they basically get 92-96mh doing  eth coin  they use about 590-610 watts the i3-6100t  and about 615-630 watts the g4500

if you run eth only  on the biostar z170 board   the best cpu is a g4400t    then the i3-6100t   both of these will allow the four card rig to do 590-610 watts  at about 95mh on eth only.

   I like the four card build due to its size.  If I were to do all my rigs over again I would have all 4 card mobos from biostar and sit them on a wooden rack I have. I would also change out my storm door on the back of my garage as It would allow more air flow if it were a full size screen.

   I had 3 two card mobos with cpus left over from mining btc and ltc back in 2012.  so I started mining eth with them.  I had 2 three card mobos from builds of gamers for friends. (they were rma replacements)   so I had 5 boards with 3 cpus for zero cost to start and I had 3 hd7970 gpus all idle.  So my beginnings with eth coin  were based on that 'free' gear.

28530  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience Compac BM1384 Stickminer Official Support Thread on: September 12, 2016, 01:03:28 PM
Note I have used sticks and I am selling them 


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1613901.0


will also sell the hub and the high efficiency  psu
28531  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Diff thread Sept 12 to ? Prize = $50.00 Picks are closed! on: September 12, 2016, 12:42:04 PM
This is the final Diff thread  Been doing this a long time and I am a bit burnt out.

I jump prize to $50.00

picks will start at    1116  and end at 716.

Last jump  we had the rounding rule happen  the bitcoinwisdom number was 2.30%

but actual number was 225,832,872,179/220,755,908,330 = 1.02299808819346

that is a 2.299808819346 % jump

so

wpt1wpt1  had 2.2 which covers 2.20 to 2.29999999999999999999999....

pusttiu  had     2.3 which covers 2.30 to 2.39999999999999999999999....

so the actual winner was wpt1wpt1

I am awarding both the prize of $25

Since these thread were always meant for some fun.

I also bumped the prize up to $50  for the last thread.

And if the rounding rules happens again I will give two prizes.

I had a lot of fun here.  So to all that ever posted here  especially seriouscoin  thanks for posting and playing.
28532  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 29 to Sept 12? Prize = $25.00 Picks are now closed>. on: September 12, 2016, 12:33:51 PM
1DnvTqawuZ5bhU8MXY5b1YbdhkXmGnSAE
all go to beer for the weekend.
ms


Well you did not win  actually  wpt1wpt1 is the winner.

Sep 12 2016   225,832,872,179   2.30%   1,616,574,667 GH/s
Aug 29 2016   220,755,908,330   1.56%   1,580,232,344 GH/s


225,832,872,179/220,755,908,330 = 1.02299808819346

that is a 2.299808819346 % jump


so wpt1wpt1  had 2.2   which covers 2.20 to 2.29999999999999999999999....

you have 2.3 which covers 2.30 to 2.39999999999999999999....


I have decided to award both of you the $25.00  since the purpose of the thread is fun-ness  not mean-ness

so at wpt1wpt1  please post a btc addy.



I am also giving away $50  next jump  which will be the end of the threads.

new thread is here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1614824.new#new
28533  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 29 to Sept 12? Prize = $25.00 Picks are now closed>. on: September 12, 2016, 12:21:08 PM
Date                       Difficulty             Change          Hash Rate
Sep 12 2016       225,832,872,179    2.30%    1,616,574,667 GH/s


+2.3 = pusttiu     Congratulations  Smiley

I need to check if he won .  While the number reads 2.30 .

  We don't round  so 225,832,872,179/220,755,908,330 =    1.02299808819346   that would be 2.299808819346 percent jump

which would mean the person picking 2.2 is the winner  not the person picking 2.3

No one has 2.2  so we have a rollover  not a winner and pusttiu   gets to have the claim to be the first person  to lose to the

rounding rule. Grin

Now since this has never happened until today and since it is only $25 usd  I am going to award the $25 anyway Grin
I am also going to roll the prize money over to $50 usd for next thread.

Why cause the thread is designed for fun-ness  not mean-ness.


So at pusttiu  please give me a BTC addy to pay to.  



+2.2 = wpt1wpt1  is the actual winner
+2.3 = pusttiu      looks like the winner due to bitcoinwisdom rounding




I will start picks

-1.2  = philipma1957  I will roll it over if it hits.

-0.3  = Veves1

+0.1 = cpfreeplz

+0.5 = moe7865
+0.6 = merelcoin
+0.7 = alh
+0.8 = Lindin99
+0.9 = Notlist3d
+1.0 = petahashminer
+1.1 = blindminer
+1.2 = edonkey
+1.3 = HerbPean
+1.4 = Leowonderful
+1.5 = DanielRo
+1.6 = Mikestang
+1.7 = fr4nkthetank
+1.8 = HagssFIN
+1.9 = BBHex
+2.0 = albertamining
+2.1 = slastar

+2.2 = wpt1wpt1  is actual winner

+2.3 = pusttiu

+2.4 = NeuroticFish

+2.7 = gt_addict
+2.8 = t2yax
+2.9 = testerman

+3.1 = tertius993

+3.5 = Last of the V8s

+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = Kexkey

+4.7 = Biodom

+5.0 = in2tactics

+5.5 = vapourminer

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty



Bitcoin Difficulty:   220,755,908,330
Estimated Next Difficulty:   223,485,744,470 (+1.24%)
Adjust time:   After 721 Blocks, About 4.9 days
  5 blocks to go
Hashrate(?):   1,669,032,140 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.8 minutes
3 blocks: 29.6 minutes
6 blocks: 59.1 minutes
Updated:   8:55 (4.4 minutes ago)

a few good spots left guys     0.2, 0.3, 0.4, 2.5 ,2.6, 3.0


picking is closed  good luck to all.
the actual winner is wpt1wpt1 
28534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new XMR+ ETH thread builds info and other stuff thoughts and photos included. on: September 12, 2016, 04:21:42 AM



Get the biostar z170 and make two card rig then go,to four cards.

Use a low cost g4400 or g4500 cpu
28535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new XMR+ ETH thread builds info and other stuff thoughts and photos included. on: September 12, 2016, 03:54:34 AM
Why must you use the i7 6800 CPU?
28536  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Looking to sell my compac sticks on: September 12, 2016, 03:26:17 AM
hi Phil,

How much would it be to send one to the UK? I can't get hold of the green ones here only the Bitshopper ones.

Thanks.

shipping is bad let me check it.

maybe 14 usd to ship it.  it they let me use first class and not prioity.

small flat rate priority is now 34   which is nuts.

if I can send it for 14.

 I would want 40 total
28537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 1st Try at GPU mining ETH, I think I owe ! on: September 12, 2016, 12:36:21 AM

Hello;

I wonder if someone could help understand my results.

Background( Windows 7, Sapphire Nitro RX 470 8GB, OpenCL installed, eth installed.)

My first attempt at mining does not look successful, as eth doesn't seem to recognize the GPU. 


I used the following command....


c:\Program Files\cpp-ethereum>eth -v 1 -a (my address) --client-name HashZilla -x 50 -m on -G


I got the following result....

cpp-ethereum, a C++ Ethereum client
No GPU device with sufficient memory was found. Can't GPU mine. Remove the -G argument


So I set the OpenCL parameters and tried again....

c:\Program Files\cpp-ethereum>setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0

SUCCESS: Specified value was saved.

c:\Program Files\cpp-ethereum>setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100

SUCCESS: Specified value was saved.

c:\Program Files\cpp-ethereum>setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1

SUCCESS: Specified value was saved.


c:\Program Files\cpp-ethereum>eth -v 1 -a 0x7643715CF78eB75ee857f7203B3365741205
6655 --client-name HashZilla -x 50 -m on -G

cpp-ethereum, a C++ Ethereum client
No GPU device with sufficient memory was found. Can't GPU mine. Remove the -G ar
gument


I checked the device list....

c:\Program Files\cpp-ethereum>ethminer --list-devices

Listing OpenCL devices.
FORMAT: [deviceID] deviceName
 
  •   Ellesmere
        CL_DEVICE_TYPE: GPU
        CL_DEVICE_GLOBAL_MEM_SIZE: 8589934592
        CL_DEVICE_MAX_MEM_ALLOC_SIZE: 4244635648
        CL_DEVICE_MAX_WORK_GROUP_SIZE: 256



I also specified the GPU device with the following command....

c:\Program Files\cpp-ethereum>eth -v 1 -a 0x7643715CF78eB75ee857f7203B3365741205
6655 --client-name HashZilla -x 50 -m on -G --opencl-device 0

cpp-ethereum, a C++ Ethereum client
No GPU device with sufficient memory was found. Can't GPU mine. Remove the -G ar
gument


Is this the correct device information for the RX 470 ?


Thanks
Zilla


Use claymore dual miner.

Load Amd 16.9.1 drivers
28538  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Aug 29 to Sept 12? Prize = $25.00 Picks are now closed>. on: September 11, 2016, 10:22:38 PM
the spike has returned




worse yet big tank on price


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/coinbase/btcusd



dropped around 20 bucks quick
28539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new XMR+ ETH thread builds info and other stuff thoughts and photos included. on: September 11, 2016, 10:07:48 PM


yes and if you are a veteran you can get a 10% discount.


 I wish they would advertise that, didn't know about that discount.

 8-(


Lowes and Home Depot both give discounts for vets.

28540  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmain Antminer R4 on: September 11, 2016, 05:41:05 PM
APW5, 1300W-2600W PSU
Power chord is not included with the APW5. It requires a C13 chord with a minimum current of 16A. We advise all users to purchase it separately according to their local wall-socket standard

Does this mean that i cant run 1 machine on a 110v 15amps or 2 machines on a 220v 30amps circuits because the power chord requires 16A minimum??



no.  


lets go slow  and explain  

 1300 watts / 110 volts = 11.81 amps

 2600 watts / 220 volts = 11.81 amps

so a 15 amp cord  x .8 = 12 amps     the 0.8  is  80 percent de rating factor due to your 24/7/365 day use.

so 15 amp cords should be good enough.

give me time to link a good 110-120 volt cord




https://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Universal-Power-Cord/dp/B007O0XL4Q/ref=sr_1_1?
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-PXT100143-Feet-14AWG-Extension/dp/B00AC8M5L2/ref=sr_1_2?



give me time for a 220/240 volt 20 amp setup




this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162183703200?

to this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162001133210?

to  two of these
https://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Universal-Power-Cord/dp/B007O0XL4Q/ref=sr_1_1?

would be able to do a 2600 watt and a 1300 watt  like this one


https://www.amazon.com/SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-Tester-120-G2-1300-XR/dp/B00COIZTZM/ref=sr_1_1?


btw I would buy  the evga's any way. rather then buy the one from bitmaintech
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