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2861  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Hi-PoS hybrid pos/pow no premine/ipo/ico on: May 09, 2016, 08:23:46 AM
presstabs block explorer and yobit are forked to hell. yobit was notified multiple ways very early and has been contacted multiple times now since and never replies. check blockexperts get on the right chain and latest version and stop using yobit and presstabs site. good luck.

Good luck? What do you mean with that? What about you responsibility to contact Bittrex/Poloniex to get TEK a decent exchange?

Good luck? It sounds as if you are abandoning the ship...

Then u guys attack me when I say there s no dev and actual leadership for this coin. Glad I ve sold all of my TEK cause when the dev says "good luck" to you, you know what s going to happen.
2862  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin in the hotel on: May 09, 2016, 08:14:05 AM
The site seems decent and the offer as well. Add BTC and I wish you full occupancy.
2863  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I have 5K€ to invest ! on: May 09, 2016, 08:05:47 AM
i think you should wait, i think btc is going to drop soon


Haha, what a bad advice. Drop? Why would it drop?
2864  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin debit card on: May 09, 2016, 07:54:21 AM
So, question for people who use the card, do you recommend it or not?

Pls simple answer, thank you.
I would recomend for sure!! Had some problems but thats to be expected for a new thing like this. VERY useful if you aint got no cash and have Bitcoins!!! Smiley

Nice, thx a lot for this info. I think I ll get one and see how it goes from there.
2865  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Lending on Poloniex on: May 09, 2016, 07:51:56 AM
I'm using poloniex for trade as well as form lend a small amount. And i never had any problem with lending and as above mentioned, poloniex taking collateral from their users so even if the your loan taker has scammed you can still get your money back.
Is this safe? Ask Karpeles.. Wink


 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Polo s quite safe, they make a lot of money from their operations and the only real danger would be some form of hacking.
2866  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com - Cloud Mining Service on: May 09, 2016, 07:49:19 AM
I've emailed them a while back and they say the payouts will be the same during the halving because they also mine other coins and invest.

Their mining efficiency is too good to be true. lol. I believe many experts in this forum would love to understand how they optimized their setups. Smiley

I tell you they are the same team as hashprofit which did claim the same, they mine altcoins and invest. The truth is no expert can understand how optimized their setup are, but any expert here will tell you the only thing you need to know, they are just a financial pyramid scheme, so optimized setups doesn't exist at all, otherwise they would show it to us.

+1

No expect can understand their setup cause there s no setup. It s like going public saying u ve got a rocket that ll reach Saturn and when NASA experts ask how or to see data, you say, nah, trust me, I have it.

BS and people ll cry cause of this.
2867  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: May 09, 2016, 07:46:27 AM
Has anyone drew attention on DigixDAO on the Ethereum platform. Now costs more Ethereum. Wink

That kind of projects is what I talk about when comparing Ether and Factom. Dao s withdrawing a lot of Ether from the market, really a lot. Also, general idea about being the vessel for innovations s quite nice.

I do agree with Tempus that BTC price growth might put lots of pressure on Ether price but these kind of project act as a counterweight. Also, there s no indication Factom will face anything different if BTC price goes up cause what I ve seen so far, Ether and Factom move more less in the same direction vis a vis BTC price.
2868  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: May 08, 2016, 06:28:33 PM
To tell u the truth, that s my feeling exactly, that the team does not give a shit about Factom community. They needed us during the fund gathering phase but now final consumers are what they care about.

Yes, I d gladly sell now but the demand s so weak I dont want to crash the price and lose money. So I have to find another way.


You are funny. Everybody who bought into the ICO is more than just safe in the profit zone. Calculate it! Some weeks ago I was critical about the wallet because it didn't work for me and some others but now it's all fine. To say they don't give a shit is simply not true. They just don't do babysitting.  


The last update was this:



Our latest binaries v0.3.7.0 have been released, read more about it on our blog:

https://www.factom.com/factom-technical-update-binaries-v0-3-7/

That's 10 days ago.

What do you expect? That they post their diaries?

And, don't take it personal, but it seems as if you want them to work, so you can be happy about a rising price, while you didn't do your homework very well. Just look above, your theory about the price. I understand that Factom can be confusing for those who are new to it, but those who are invested since some time should know that stuff.

And do they work? Today is Sunday, but obviously yes:

factomd
Milestone2 work
Updated 20 minutes ago
https://github.com/FactomProject/

What do I expect? I expect them to follow fucking deadlines. The deadline for M2 was Q1, that was 35 days ago. All we ve got since then is "just around the corner". The only reason why I ve got into Factom is cause the team sold me the story about honesty, hard work, innovations and dedication. For now, I see only empty promises and that stuff I ve seen with almost any other coin including Josh Homero Garza and his Paycoin. So pls, spare me just around the corner stuff and let me know when we re going to see M2.

Nothing personal but compared to Ether and the amount of work and project produced by their team, Factom s kindergarten. And yes, I am a competitive person, I like to see my own team wins.
2869  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: May 08, 2016, 06:20:43 PM
To tell u the truth, that s my feeling exactly, that the team does not give a shit about Factom community. They needed us during the fund gathering phase but now final consumers are what they care about.

Yes, I d gladly sell now but the demand s so weak I dont want to crash the price and lose money. So I have to find another way.

Do you actually read any of the posts of other people? You sound like a spoiled kid turned into a broken record

Put your money where your mouth is. Buy all of my Factom at current market price and then u take care of the record.
2870  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: May 08, 2016, 04:50:00 PM
To tell u the truth, that s my feeling exactly, that the team does not give a shit about Factom community. They needed us during the fund gathering phase but now final consumers are what they care about.

Yes, I d gladly sell now but the demand s so weak I dont want to crash the price and lose money. So I have to find another way.
2871  Economy / Exchanges / Re: List of bitcoin debit cards on: May 08, 2016, 10:41:23 AM
So, what would be the top 3 options for an European user?
2872  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: May 08, 2016, 10:13:32 AM
After seeing so many collapsed ponzies, people step up and say BTC having anonymity s great. Fuck that. Scammers should be shot at spot.
2873  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: May 08, 2016, 09:39:22 AM
hi guys ;

i have question, i want invest money to hashnest and i know that profit itself dropping down , so is worth invest money ?

what will be my ROI ?

Hi. It is better to buy BTC directly from exchanges, if you just want to buy and keep BTCs. Unless you are prepared to do trading to earn BTC via Hashnest.

I must agree, although I always say there is money to be made in crypto and mining if you know where to look, I have not been increasing my shares of mining hashpower or my own personal mine for some time now due to the halving.  Once that is over, I will reassess where the profitability is and act accordingly.

Same here. I've sold all my hashes. Keeping the BTCs in my wallet. I am also assessing the situation after halving. Let's keep each other updated!

So who s still mining? If anyone?
2874  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com - Cloud Mining Service on: May 08, 2016, 09:33:28 AM
Does cloud mining goes ponzi before halving or it will continue to pay after halving?

Sorry, but i don't understand how you connect mining with ponzi? Ponzis have nothing to do with halving or mining it is just financial pyramid.

There s a big time connection. Halving should bring BTC price increase and if this takes place, most ponzies would like to keep as much BTC for them, not to repay their customers.
2875  Economy / Services / Re: Need Workers to make posts on: May 08, 2016, 09:27:48 AM
Your fee s 2 low. Any sig campaign here pays much much better.
2876  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin in the hotel on: May 08, 2016, 09:25:51 AM
Well,if you look at it from the convenience,don't you think its too much of a hassle to use bitcoin payments to book a hotel ?How is one suppose to send you the coins ? From their phones ,as on travelling ,they can't really use their secure wallets and its always risky to use public computers.There are no such advancements unless the customer has a mobile wallet and stable internet.You can keep it as a option.

I only use bitcoins to book all of my hotel reservations. I just use Expedia and pay when I reserve my room.

A discount for paying in bitcoins would certainly make me want to stay at this hotel. I've been meaning to visit Croatia. Do it and consider me one of your first Bitcoin customers.

I've PMd you the apartments website so if you're planning on coming down to Croatia, we are the place for you Smiley

Why dont u post the link here, maybe u can get some extra traffic and we can follow how your BTC venture s progressing.

Puno srece burazeru.  Grin
2877  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: May 08, 2016, 09:06:50 AM
For me, the normal price would be at least $20 per 1 factoid. It will, but not soon.
If Factom catch up Ethereum, the price will be $70-$85 per 1 factoid. Many do not rule out that it is quite possible that the Factom caught Ethereum approximately through 1 year.
Today factoid 100% is very undervalued. The current price factoid is just a shame for the Factom team.
The future will show. Smiley

Well it's about a dollar right now so $20 is not really that outrageous.

In winter, I talked about that in spring factoid should cost $3 (this price we've seen), in summer factoid should cost $6 to the end of the year from $9 to $11. This forecast I make in February this year.

This is not going to happen. Remember, FCT price need to be low so people can get access to entry credits which is important cause it s the sole purpose of Factom. Personally, I do consider to sell everything and move to Etherum.

Much more cooperative development team and they do have an interest to increase the price.

The price for Factoids has no influence on the price for Entry Credits. The amount of used Entry Credits has an effect on the price of Factoids. It's not even needed to buy Factoids to be able to purchase Entry Credits because it's possible to buy EC's with $. For customers it's not even needed to know about existence of Factoids. Factoids is something like a technical Factom-Currency.

And, just by the way: Some say the holy grail in Crypto is a bulletproof anonymous system. But I believe the holy grail in Crypto is a system in which customers don't even need to touch Cryptocurrencies. ;-) Factom found a very elegant solution to make that possible.


Let's say you want 1 Mio Entry Credits.

Scenario 1: You buy it with Factoids, so you have to buy Factoids first.

1 EC = $0.001 (fixed at this price)
1 Mio EC's = $1000

You buy 914 FCT's (currently each $1.094) and you send those to your EC-Address = 1 Mio EC's.

Scenario 2: You buy EC's with $.

You use your Credit Card to buy it in the Factom-Store (or from somebody else who offers this service) and they send Factoids on your EC-Address.

In both Scenarios the used/converted Factoids are "burned" - out of the system.

The thing about it is simple: The higher the price of Factoids the less Factoids are needed and "burned". If the price for Factoids is down more Factoids are needed for Amount x of Entry Credits.


What does that mean for the Factoids-price and why could it be a good investment?


The more the system is used, the more Entry Credits will be used. The more Entry Credits = the more Factoids will be "burned". At the same time, after Milestone 3, there will be about 73,000 new FCT's each month (payment for federated server).

That means: If Factom should become successful, and let's say there would be a demand for about 1 billion EC's per month, a price of $13.7 per FCT would be needed - otherwise more Factoids per month would be burned than new created.

Calculation:

1 billion EC's * $0.001 = $1 Mio

$1 Mio / 73,000 = $13,69


I can't know if that (a huge demand like that) will happen and if, nobody knows when. But if you think about possible use cases you'll find out: It can be used for a ton of different purposes. And if you read about "Big Data" you'll find out: There is no lack of data and there are a lot of problems to organize data, to secure data, to connect data - in time. Factom offers solutions for all kinds of problems with data - for companies but also for private persons.

Conclusion: It's all about the question if Factom will become successful or not. And I believe that there won't be a way in the middle. If they will become successful I believe: It will be about tons of data and huge amounts of Entry Credits. The reason why I believe that is what is called network-effect. The more it's used the more incentive to use it for others. The more it's used for one purpose, the more incentive to use it for other purposes as well. Because data, especially data-in-time, is nearly always connected in some ways with other data. That's the case for one company and that's the case for whole economies. That's even the case for private persons.

Second Conclusion: If the Factom-team is able to develop it the way it's planned, I see no reason why it shouldn't become successful. The only reason I can think of are competitors with better solutions. But it's not easy to make it better because the base-principle is about simplicity. It has to be stable. In the announcement-post they say: "Factom is most easily understood as a protocol that provides unlimited books of blank paper." That's a nice comparison. Doesn't sound like the next big thing, but blank paper is really useful and it's pretty hard to make it better than blank. ;-)

The rest is a question of applications which has to be userfriendly - but a company that wants to use Factom will develop applications for individual purposes or pay members of Factom to do that.


In my opinion Factom could turn out as the first project in Crypto that will be really useful, solve real problems. Ethereum is a great project but I believe it's possible that it will turn out as "scientific-project". Needed as experience to find out what's possible and what is not and how something like that (smart contracts) can be done or not be done, and where the limits are. In the end it could turn out as not stable enough. It has to face a lot of problems because it's much more complex by design.

Factom is like a stable base on a stable base. At the same time it's very flexible, can anchor in multiple blockchains, can connect with all kinds of useful Applications, and it's even possible to build different Factom-systems on top of Factom - it can grow into other use cases. That's why I believe Factom is the project with the highest potential and, in comparison with ETH for example, it involves less risk.



P.S.: I didn't write this just for you. I believe that a lot of people still don't really understand the "Factoids --> Entry Credit - principle" and how to see Factom in general.

Heh. Thx for this explanation and especially P.S part. I could argue a lot about this especially the part about the team, potential success and competitors. However, since I m also a Factom holder I m not going to sabotage my own investment based on my understanding of the problem.
2878  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2017 Year of the Bitcoin on: May 08, 2016, 07:50:21 AM
It ll all depend on the results of halving. If BTC price does not go and up and it does not get matched by alts prices going up in a few months after halving, there will be no increased public interest in BTC and there will be no great year for crypto.

However, I still think we re on track.
2879  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is not the currency of the people and likely never will be on: May 08, 2016, 07:48:28 AM
What is the problem with that?

People who re already deep in BTC want to have more BTC. Sure, dont we all think that way.

BTW, I see BTC as a store of value, gold 2.0 and not as something I m gonna take into the shop and buy bread and milk with. I dont think it ll ever come to that point.
2880  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com - Cloud Mining Service on: May 08, 2016, 07:38:38 AM
I remember last year, HashOcean mentioned on its site about ROI timeframe is about 4-6 months. Now it promises ROI in 2-3 months.

Seems odd. If you are not in it, better stay away. If you are still in it, pray that it last as long as possible.

Please be mindful about "investing" with HashOcean. It may be legit, it may not be. But I am sharing my observations. Good luck.

You have right! Here is banner that they have been using in last year:

https://hashocean.com/promo/

and they are using this banner till now. It is ROI in 4 - 7 months.

Where did you found information about 2-3 months promises?

I've captured a screen shot. Please see:

https://i.imgur.com/dNfZBNV.png

What i can say..? It looks like now their mining rigs are working better Wink
From earnings counting for 100 khs it looks like ROI is in about 3 months:


But it doesn't mean that HashOcean is not a Ponzi!

WHY R U PEOPLE SO STUPID? THEY provide unreal results, mining difficulty does not affect payouts, no photos, no any explanation how they make money. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE. Stop acting like idiots.

I think you have warned long enough, and still people greediness makes them lose money as they will lose money in the end, I have warned also several times but it seem worthless, some people only learn the hard way so not much we can do here.

I think u re 100% right. Maybe it s time for us to move on.
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