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2861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cloudbet's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: August 12, 2018, 05:26:13 PM
Well three correct scores for me and the bastard of the week with the first yellow cap  Cheesy. I narrowly missed out on four other correct scores by one goal, two of those games screwing me over in the last few minutes with a late goal. Imagine getting seven correct scores. Would have got me a cash prize of £500. I suspect missing out on a lot of games just by one goal will be quite common though and that's why it's so difficult to do so. Aiming for 5 correct scores from one round though to get myself a proper yellow cap  Cheesy.

Consolation prize leader-board so far:
      
hilariousandco 18.5
slaman29 18
LTI_btc 15
Bitsat 15
marboro 14

   
2862  Other / Meta / Re: Merit? This got to be a joke. on: August 12, 2018, 03:46:15 PM
How is this then untrue?? this is the exact thing i am claiming, you gained rank easily since merit was not a factor back then. all you had to do is post stuff to get activity.
One of your first posts for example:

Mod give green light for it. But maybe we can suggest that the selling acc mark or something

Who gave you a green light for doing what?

Has essentially given you a merit. Lets see you getting a merit with a shitpost like that now.

No it hasn't. I don't think you understand how merit works or what it is. I wasn't merited for that post, so if I made 1 million posts like that then I would literally get nowhere. My posts far eclipse my activity and posts that don't get any merit are irrelevant to your ranking without the required merit and I still had to get hundreds of merit which I have. So even if I started with zero merits I would have almost certainly made the requirements within the time-frames it takes to achieve merely activity over time. Short posts or ones that are not 'essays' don't equal 'shitposts' either. What about all those quality posts I made before the merit system that are now overlooked and will never get any merit?

In fact, I'm actually one of the top-merited users here:




Only one things is crystal clear though. If merit would have been introduced when this forum was launched, non of you legendary/ hero members would hold your current rank  Wink
I completely disagree with this. There are some users here on the forum that got many merits and they started from the bottom like nullius. If I remember correctly, he is a low ranked member here when the merit system has implemented but now he got so many merits but unfortunately, he is inactive right now.

I believe that we can get the required merits that we needed as long as we are not included in the most people here who are shitposting and spamming here. There are many members who got ranked up already. Those who are complaining the merit system are ones who can't contribute to the forum. Maybe I should include you or not?? Smiley JK

and you essentialy got a "merit' for this shit post so cut the crap people:

hello im a newbie too in the world of bitcoins
i know bitcoins for about a month or two but i ignored it because i didnt see the importance of this bitcoins..
but now i see the importance and i want to explore whats inside cryptocurrency
and i want to know it here in this website.. thanks  Smiley

You could make a million shitposts but they're wholly irrelevant if you don't get the additional merit. Even if you were a colossal shitposter who was here before merit without additional merit you're not going to move up ranks.
2863  Other / Meta / Re: Merit? This got to be a joke. on: August 12, 2018, 11:51:45 AM
Only one things is crystal clear though. If merit would have been introduced when this forum was launched, non of you legendary/ hero members would hold your current rank  Wink

Not true. I will have gone from Hero to Legendary as soon as I have the required activity and this is only in a matter of months. Merit isn't difficult for those who make quality contributions, but it is for those who are only here to make one/two liners to get paid. I wouldn't even be against everyone starting from a level playing-field with no auto merit allocation and then everyone has to rank up naturally. That would really sort the wheat from the chaff.

We all know getting merit is not easy. we post lots of quality post but still we didn't get any merit. In that time if we heard people selling their merit. that really frustration fact for us.


Your 19 posts consisting of 2 or three lines are not going to get you merit. Unless one of them says something profound and brilliant. Most posts that get merit take time and effort to compose.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304374;sa=showPosts

Have a look at the type of posts that get merit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats

Your motivation shouldn't be merit but making a contribution towards the forum. Posts for the sake of extracting merits are usually quite obvious to those that have merits to give.


He's a spam account belonging to a major account farmer. See the previous page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4847725.msg43906035#msg43906035
2864  Other / Meta / Re: Censorship on the Bitcoin talk forum on: August 12, 2018, 11:24:26 AM
Who are involved in censoring moderating this website?


The mods are responsible for enforcing the rules. Did you break the law of the land? Would breaking the lass of your country be a threat to your freedom of speech? Sometimes you can't just say anything you want if it breaks the rules and causes damage or danger to someone else. Care to give us some examples of this 'censorship'?


Who are involved in censoring this website? It's a threat to my freedom of speech


I thought I was the only one feeling that there is censorship on the Bitcoin talk forum. That's a crying shame that on a forum like this, which is all about our freedoms of all sorts, we encounter such a disgraceful thing as censorship... Angry

Such as? There are rules here for a reason and if you break then posts may be removed or users banned. Without rules things turn into compete anarchy and there needs to be some order here to have a functioning board for discussion. Otherwise it would be just wall to wall spam... oh wait, never-mind.

We need more censorship - the current spam crap is violating  my freedom to read rights. Smiley

Ha. We do need to get harsher and clamp down on certain things like spam and farming etc, but people aren't going to have opinions removed just because someone doesn't like it unless you're doing it just to be disruptive and derail threads etc. Reads the rules and try to play by them and you likely won't have your post removed.
2865  Other / Meta / Re: 2 suggestions to eliminate bumping services & the spam being encouraged in Anns on: August 12, 2018, 11:15:51 AM
If ICOs have to pay money, I would suggest theymos to pay a little more to the current staff here. What they are paid != Work they do. They need to be compensated properly.

Whilst I don't think many staff members would say no to a raise, we're essentially volunteers here. Theymos did mention changing the mod payment algorithm a while back but I have no idea whether that would lead to an increase of decrease in staff earnings. It depends how it's changed, but I do think the way the payment algorithm works here isn't actually representative of the work being put in i.e. one patroller could maybe handle 500 reports a month and another 5000 and they would both likely get a very similar payment if not the same. Whether I handle zero bans or 1000 I don't think that has any effect on payment either.

Nice idea @hilariousetc and I have my own suggestions since from the Biggining of my short carrier in the forum.

  • Merits shouldn't awarded to the post made on ANN threads.
  • Posts in the ANN threads should not counted as an activity.
  • Introduce earned Merit requirement for starting a thread in ANN section.( Most members wouldn't risk their reputation to just get few ICO tokens which can create out of thin air, so my believe is they will moderate the thread that he/she started)

Example - LoyceV's signature campaign with earned Merit requirement


1) I wouldn't necessarily be against it, but alternatively you could say people should be able to merit whatever they like. I think giving ANN threads merit is largely useless, but if a worthwhile project popped up that could change an industry or was proposing an excellent product then I wouldn't have an issue in meriting that. I think there are bigger issues right now than people meriting ANN threads which seems like a non-issue to me.
2) Wouldn't be against that either, but I think there are boards more suited to activity not counting (bounties etc) and since we have merit shitposting is largely useless without the merit which they wont ever get.
3) I would be against this. Doesn't really solve anything to be honest and it stops new users from posting them and they will just hire other users to do the listing for them. Charging users a fee would just be better in my opinion.
2866  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestions for improving the forum on: August 12, 2018, 10:06:45 AM
Can you rephrase that into something concise and get to the actual point because I have no idea what you're actually proposing or are concerned about here? Is this just an elongated way of indirectly complaining about the merit system and that you can't earn more because you can't move up ranks and you want to go back to how the ranks were before? Or are you saying other websites are now doing bounties and you're worried about the forum losing traffic to them and losing out money? Please clarify.
2867  Other / Meta / Re: Seeking reporter badge images on: August 12, 2018, 10:01:22 AM
In fact, I think they're just causing much more work for staff at the minute as it's clear there are a few users who have gone crazy reporting any old sort of spam post they can find since these reporting badges were announced and I don't think that's a coincidence.
That's all we wanted, isn't it? I understand the mods are having more workload than before. To keep the balance may be theymos can consider asking volunteers to help the mods if he does not want to hire more mod/s of course.

Is it really essential to report a spam post made in December buried in the first few pages of an Ann thread? Nope. Some people are clearly just looking for things to report and it's a waste of time for everyone right now. Report things that matter not anything and eveytthign just because it's going to get you a worthless badge. I've also suggested assigning more sub board mods and patrollers but my suggestions always fall on deaf ears.
2868  Other / Meta / Re: 2 suggestions to eliminate bumping services & the spam being encouraged in Anns on: August 12, 2018, 09:53:31 AM
1) Make it so that posts from lower ranked members don't bump the thread to the top (ideally up to Member)
I think its a good idea to combat the spam. Lets hope these "Member" accounts dont get ranked up by someone "giving" them merits to do so. In which case it would make the idea redundant. It would need a periodical follow up of such accounts which are posting regularly in these thread.

This sort of abuse would be minimal, but there wouldn't be enough merit to go around for them to do this. They create throwaway newbie accounts by the dozens because it's free to do so and nothing is lost if/when they're nuked which most of them are. It just wouldn't be viable or cost effective for them to buy/trade merit to a constant stream of newbie accounts that are getting nuked constantly.

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2) Get rid of the Announcement board completely and instead charge ICOs a fee to list here and once they do they get their own sub board in the Alt Coin section. If this happens then paid bumping is useless. Many of them would probably like having their own board and they could even be responsible for moderating it or mod it how they like.
How would you tackle this - Making a thread in general should not cost money to the thread maker. But specific to the ICO only? That means we would need a paywalled section for posting ICO ANN threads. Maybe do the same for Bounty threads as well and charge payments from "bounty hunters" for joining each bounty?

It should cost to list in the Announcement board, I'm not talking about any others (though I guess you could extend it to Bounties as well if you wanted). You literally would not be able to make a thread in the Ann board until you've paid the fee. You can't post if you're proxy banned until you've paid and this would be similar. You could just make them purchase another additional Member rank that gives them access to it.
2869  Other / Meta / Re: Seeking reporter badge images on: August 12, 2018, 09:44:33 AM
I'll probably add it next week sometime.
Overdue notice.

Give it the BFL-proverbial "two more weeks"? Tongue

Theymos operates on a different plane of existence to us mere crypto peons where time has no meaning or two weeks means two years in
human terms. The new forum software was coming 'next year' which was said in 2014 I believe. I think there are much more important issues that need addressing/implementing right now than badges in my opinion. In fact, I think they're just causing much more work for staff at the minute as it's clear there are a few users who have gone crazy reporting any old sort of spam post they can find since these reporting badges were announced and I don't think that's a coincidence. I've suggested theymos add another report button for sig spam etc so the current report queue doesn't get clogged up with crap and buries more important issues that need urgently handling but that's likely just another suggestion that will end up on the scrap heap or on the things to do before the new millennium list.
2870  Other / Meta / 2 suggestions to eliminate bumping services & the spam being encouraged in Anns on: August 12, 2018, 09:03:50 AM
1) Make it so that posts from lower ranked members don't bump the thread to the top (ideally up to Member)
2) Get rid of the Announcement board completely and instead charge ICOs a fee to list here and once they do they get their own sub board in the Alt Coin section. If this happens then paid bumping is useless. Many of them would probably like having their own board and they could even be responsible for moderating it or mod it how they like.

ICOs should probably be paying a fee to list here anyway. They get a crazy amount of advertising for free and are probably causing 95% of the staff workload by all the spam and abuse that is happening and staff are left to run around like headless chickens trying to clean it all up. It's about time they have to start compensating for this. Money raised can either go to hiring more staff to combat spam or given to charity.

Thoughts or anyone have any other suggestions to combat this abuse?
2871  Economy / Reputation / Re: Obvious cheater is Obvious on: August 12, 2018, 08:46:41 AM
This is why it isn't always necessarily a good idea to require a minimum merit requirement. People will then just try get the merit from somewhere. Is a person who buys or merits his alts more qualified to be in that campaign than another poster who has less merits? Nope. Users should be taken on a case by case basis. If someone has decent or great posts then accept them. Don't just blindly accept a shitposter or someone else just because they've somehow miraculously managed to get the minimum merit requirement or abuses are going to happen.
I disagree, because setting a minimum number of merits eliminates a lot of work for the campaign managers, and people who haven't earned that minimum are pretty likely to be either shitposters or newbies with a low post count.  You have to admit that it disqualifies most shitposters.  In addition, look at what happened to the guy we're talking about in this thread.  People are watching and taking action when they think shenanigans are afoot. 



Campaign mangers shouldn't be letting merit do their job for them. A shitposter shouldn't be allowed on to the campaign in the first place regardless of how much merit he may or may not have or how he acquired it. Someone could make great posts initially just to get the merit then turn into a complete shitposter once accepted. I see plenty of decent or even great posters that have little to no merit, some even higher ranked but a lot of people may not merit them because they feel they don't need it or they just don't have the merit to give, and this is why applicants merely shouldn't be judged on merit.
2872  Other / Meta / Re: is it possible that ideas/suggestions are collected on one pinned topic on: August 12, 2018, 08:14:31 AM
I've actually been thinking about doing something like this. I've made numerous suggestions to help improve the forum both publicly and  privately in the staff forum, but I don't think a single one has been commented on by theymos in years. Some may be bad ideas or ineffective or ultimately counter-productive that would never be implemented but I never know whether theymos thinks they're good or bad or whether I'm just wasting my time even pursuing them but they should at least be discussed. I would honestly rather him just call the ideas terrible at this point so I can move on with something else and stop wasting my time. Some things like requiring a merit achievement to become a Junior Member and removing signatures from lower ranks aren't disruptive to anyone's freedoms at all and would help greatly and both many staff and users seem to agree. Punishing badly run campaigns also needs to happen. In fact, the signature campaign guidelines thread was even signed off by theymos but he never ended up enforcing them despite several requests.

What I was thinking of is opening a thread where people can make suggestions in a short, concise sentence or two. Once all the suggestions have been made they're all put in another thread and users can vote on which ones they think are a good idea and the ones that get a vote are pushed up to the top and are then ordered by how popular they are. No need do down-vote things as the least popular ones will fall to the bottom. Thus we will be able to see what sort of suggestions are backed by the community or not. There's of course a chance theymos again won't take any notice at all but we really can't keep our heads in the sand for much longer as the forum is overtaken by one liner sig spammers, bots and farmers almost 100%.
2873  Other / Meta / Re: Merit? This got to be a joke. on: August 12, 2018, 08:01:34 AM
There's some serious farming going on here. This is some straight up sweatshop shift work:

Just look at all these one liner shitposting account farmers on this page and the previous:

Is it worth reporting them? Don't seem to violate any rules.

Please do. Account farming in the dozens upon dozens by regurgitating one line shitposts over and over and posting back to back isn't allowed. One Russian farmer had his 200 accounts banned for this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1912475.0

Sadly, I think that was the last time an admin looked into shitposting farming. It wouldn't surprise me if this user had more accounts than that. I'm waiting for the why was our entire sweatshop accounts banned thread.

Why are the Newbie zombie spambots in this thread not nuked yet? I've reported one saying this: "There's a plague of Newbie accounts in the last 2 pages of this thread, writing generic shitposts, rewriting other posts, or it's just a word-mixing-bot. Many accounts were created on the same date, all spamming in a similar manner. Please check the thread, and nuke all that deserve it." (I don't usually create reports this long)
Let's see what happens.
The one I reported got nuked. Some other spamposts are gone too, but not all.

It takes time to nuke them and is incredibly tedious. I must have nuked around 50 yesterday. The report queue has been flooded with people reporting spam posts in bounties threads and other reports are getting buried but they get worked through eventually.
2874  Other / Meta / Re: Seeking reporter badge images on: August 11, 2018, 09:11:01 PM
A good idea can be to reward with airdop merit the start of this thing, to reward users who reported.

No. This would then lead to abuse. People would just report loads of things for the merit and easily rank up their alts this way.

This can be done once when the system of reporters ' icons is introduced (as it was done when merit was introduced).

No abuse of this will arise, and the forum will receive some additional Merit from reporters

Make a single Merit's airdrop for every 300 or 500 good reports

I understand very little of this, but abuse will happen if you merely get it 'airdropped' just for reporting. It's basically a free and easy way to get merit without actually earning it. Anyone can report a spam post, not everyone can make a quality/orignal post. People will almost certainly just start reporting their own bots.

They can expect anything. Declare that airdrop is a single and will not be repeated under any circumstances (precisely because there may be abuse when re-conducting)

Or make it not happen at all. Can you tell me exactly why you think this needs to happen at all?
2875  Other / Meta / Re: 95% redundant posts. Research bitcoin before posting on: August 11, 2018, 09:08:14 PM
The merit system which has been around for a nearly 6 months has helped temper the bullshit posting. It keeps the flow of new members and posts down because previously people would create new accounts and bullshit posts to rank up to join a campaign. Now, with the requirement to earn merit to rank up the post quality has gone up for some and many others have stopped spending time here.


It hasn't really. What it has stopped is people being able to rank up by spamming their way through ranks merely over time. The shitposts are still there, they just remain by users at Junior Level who now dominate the forum. People are still creating multiple accounts each and spamming away on them, they just remain Juniors indefinitely and there are campaigns that are all too happy to pay them. This needs to change. Firstly, signatures should be removed from lower ranks completely and to become a Junior Member you should have to earn at least one merit. Ideally nobody should have a signature until Member or even higher. That would stop the complete trash posters from bleeding campaigns merely as Junior as they will never get enough merit without contributing significantly. Secondly, there needs to be punishments for badly run campaigns. These two things alone would work miracles but as long as theymos does nothing the forum continues to become an even bigger trash heap. It needs to stop at some point.
2876  Economy / Reputation / Re: Obvious cheater is Obvious on: August 11, 2018, 09:05:25 PM
This is why it isn't always necessarily a good idea to require a minimum merit requirement. People will then just try get the merit from somewhere. Is a person who buys or merits his alts more qualified to be in that campaign than another poster who has less merits? Nope. Users should be taken on a case by case basis. If someone has decent or great posts then accept them. Don't just blindly accept a shitposter or someone else just because they've somehow miraculously managed to get the minimum merit requirement or abuses are going to happen.
2877  Other / Meta / Re: Hidden boards as a reward for high merited users and reporters on: August 11, 2018, 09:04:16 PM
Just another thing come in mind, that board are you suggested absolutely is a great idea. But in my opinion board should be visible & readable  for all member's. Just rule will be for poster. Because if you hide it than others member will not learn, there might be HQ discussion. There will be many thing for learn. So there will be restriction only for poster. No one will able to post without specific category that you mentioned thread. But visible for all. If implement this board other people also will motivate for make quality post & report bad post.

Yeah, I actually think they should be public now, just not able to be posted in until they've achieved the merit requirement. I'll change the title from 'hidden' to something else.

A certain amount of reports can be an additional barrier too, real question is to get theymos to implement it. You can begin with annoying him everyday.  Tongue

He probably already finds me annoying and barely responds to anything I suggest or request anyway, and this would likely be a low priority for him. Simple things that will help the forum greatly just don't even get addressed, never mind implemented.

Instead of cryptoanarchy, we received all the signs of a concentration camp. Overseers, informers, carrot and stick. Gulag. This is pizdec tovarischi...

Except you can walk out at any time and choose to spam elsewhere.

Stupid analogy is stupid.

It's silly to give stupid advice, especially when they were not asked from you.

Nobody asked for your advice either, but this is a silly statement, especially on a discussion forum (you know, where people discuss things). Also comparing the suggestion of sub boards only accessibly to those who have earned merit to prison camps is beyond ignorant. You're the type of fool who calls mods nazis just because they removed their rule-breaking ref link or something similar. The forum has become unfit for purpose due to all those who come here just to farm accounts by the hundreds just to claim bounties. A place free of those types of people would be a good thing for those that want to actually have an intelligent discussion.
2878  Other / Meta / Re: Is bitcointalk being flooded with bots? on: August 11, 2018, 08:59:26 PM
Thinks are much better now than in the past actually.
Yeah no. There are way too many bots, 100s of thousands of them, shitposting or spamming with promotions. Word on the street is that these bots get paid at least 1000$ per week for one ANN thread. And these are bots, no hardwork required.

Making it so lower-ranked members' posts don't bump threads would put these type of bump bots out of business. In addition, requiring a merit requirement for Junior would ensure that bots never make it past newbie status and thus can be nuked.

Also, since you're a staff member, do the staff actually have the time to manually verify thousands of accounts?

Probably not as it stands, but dedicated patrollers can be made to handle these. We have to deal with the bots anyway so better to nip them in the bud before they shit all over the forum with explosive diarrhoea. The users will be shadowbanned and go into a queue so they can post as normal anyway, their posts just won't show up until approved which probably wouldn't take that long to actually verify.
2879  Other / Meta / Re: Merit? This got to be a joke. on: August 11, 2018, 08:56:22 PM
Look at all these one-line shitposters giving their barely coherent opinions on how bad the merit system is!  This is an excellent example of how these noobs have no clue why they're not going to rank up.  They think the merit system is biased and unfair, but they're not seeing what the rest of us are seeing--zero effort, zero talent, zero sense posts that will land you on people's ignore lists.

I'm having a hard time convincing myself that these posters aren't alt accounts, because the shitposts in this thread all sound the same and the usernames kind of follow a pattern (some of them) of WordxWordy.  I haven't checked the account registration dates, but I'm betting most of them will be registered right around the same time.



There's some serious farming going on here. This is some straight up sweatshop shift work:

Just look at all these one liner shitposting account farmers on this page and the previous:

It's a common thing and we cannot help it. If you look at other platforms you will find that all of them has this selling points or merits business. I think we can do nothing in this case.


Yeah i have also saw this and this looks really irritating to me. Same things happens in Facebook, reddit, twitter, etc. I wish we have a monitoring system to prevent these things.


Take it positively rather than being against the system. It is a way of encourage others about their activity, join those topics and give your perception then other people will merit you if they like your opinion. It’s interesting.


Merit is a good way to encourage someone to participate more. But nowadays some people manipulate it and people start not to trust this. It’s really bad.


Merit is not that bad system. You can utilize it. You can encourage people through it. But it’s true recently merit system is squeezed.


I think there are still some people who get their merits by sharing useful information. Those who goes for shortcuts, will be lost in the long run. So we should follow the authentic rules and regulations.


This is really sad if people are upto buying merit. The purpose of merit was to encourage good posts. If this has become a means of business too then the forum should have a look into this matter and stop this as soon as possible.. 

Merit is not popular among the peoples and it need to be eliminated. i believe it will change in near future.

Nowadays Merit losing their popularity because they are not maintains their performance. People want to bitcointalk in this platform.

I would say it’s getting manipulated day by day. Some people are using it in a wrong way which leads to state where we can’t easily trust the number of merit someone got. So it must be trustworthy for betterment of us.


Based on this merit system is good I think because it will motivate people and encourage people also poor quality post will be reduce. I think it will be a good decision.

Some people nowadays are selling merits to others. This is a very bad practice indeed. If it happens we will lose the trust on the merit system. Though I doubt the number of people who still have trust on merit system.


I think merit system will help to reduce the unnecessary post or which is low quality based on this it will motive the person who is knowledgeable and who really work hard for this.

I understand why you reacting like this ,unfortunate but it is true that whenever you will try to do something like this it will cause problems in merit system , but we all are hoping that very soon this problem will be solved


It is strictly prohibited to sell merits. Unfortunately this kind of incidents occur. But I still believe to earn merit by posting quality posts. We all must use our knowledge to create quality posts to earn merit.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304409 VindictiveFelony July 25, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2306698     ToxicMaxi July 25, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2308554     VainDots     July 27, 2018,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2312108     Champeon July 28, 2018,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2313616     LuckyOctopus     July 29, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2313679     CrownCandy     July 29, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304749     Flin+piclo     July 25, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2280655 coppied July 14, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2111238 CryptoTwinkleton May 13, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2308527 PureBull     July 26, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2311965     ImpulseGhost     July 28, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304305     Satisfyingvalley July 24, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2110482 DireFolloW May 12, 2018


The best way to benefit from crypto investment is to use your merit. You will benefit from your knowledge and skills. Your merit will take you to a good position.


Look at this idiot. Clearly not reading anything.

These farmers are swarming everywhere. I'd bet if these were looked into they'd be in their hundreds:

Look at them all in here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4845288.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304344     BaronialPlay     July 25, 2018,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304337 DecisiveRoom July 25, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2312138     BattleStitches     July 28, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2306719     DailyGold     July 25, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2252676 Boremat July 02, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2252682     Facoure July 02, 2018,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2111289 DowdleMan     May 13, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304348 EntrustedMarimba     July 25, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304360     ArrivingOvercoat     July 25, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304395     ImperiousDollar July 25, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304409     VindictiveFelony July 25, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304298     PlausibleBaby     July 24, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304320     ElatedWatchmaker July 24, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2306508     CanyonsBull     July 25, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2306738     ZippyWorkshop July 25, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2311965     ImpulseGhost     July 28, 2018,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2312126     IntelligentViking     July 28, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2313625 CrashGangster     July 29, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2306512     CandySkate July 25, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2306655     ConfidentChampion July 25, 2018

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2111238     CryptoTwinkleton May 13, 2018

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2110482 DireFolloW     May 12, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2110526 CryptoShooter May 12, 2018,
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2238800 liennhung345323 June 26, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2193068     lamthanh3462342     June 08, 2018

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2236314     blackrain321 June 25, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2234592     bitcoindiary     June 24, 2018

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2115188     CodiepieBCT     May 13, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2115114     Vengeance007     May 13, 2018,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2311961     DazzlingPredator     July 28, 2018


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2280607     Raccuporly     July 14, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2280661     face foul July 14, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2252739     Emence     July 02, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2252526     pehuk     July 02, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2252703     Proo1947     July 02, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2252733     Lisedc     July 02, 2018,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2252502     Youggairch July 02, 2018

VindictiveFelony. CryptoTwinkleton. wtf.

For the love of Satan get rid of signatures until Member rank otherwise this is never going to change. Good luck with these sort of spammers trying to get ten merit. This is some sweatshop stuff. As soon as these spammers hit junior member they join a crapcoin campaign as some of them already have and get paid for this. When is enough enough? When 99% of the forum consists of these users? Looking at the threads they post in this has nearly happened.
2880  Other / Meta / Re: The Serious Discussion Board is not "serious" anymore?? on: August 10, 2018, 04:26:40 PM
As I suggested in another thread, I think some people just see the title of the sub and think it's some sort of Politics and Society board or literally just a place for discussion on 'serious' topics. Many users are probably not even aware that posts or signatures don't even show up in there because people don't read stickies so they just spam away in there because it's another board they don't really need any technical knowledge about anything and hence why Off Topic and Politics and Society are so popular with spammers and those who know nothing about bitcoin.

I suggested that juniors should not be able to post in serious discussion.

Newbies should have to at least get one merit before they become Juniors. Would sort a lot of wheat from the chaff. I've also suggested sub boards for only those that have received a lot of merit over time.

I's not worth reporting any thread on the beginners board. If any mod was working there, then 80% of the index would be deleted.

I've requested to theymos that both Beginners and Help gets its own dedicated mod and that an Alt Coin Beginners and Help should be created since most of the threads in there are now about alt coins and bounty help. Would clean things up a lot.
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