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2861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: August 19, 2023, 07:24:18 AM
Bayern Munchen is a heavy favorite as always in the Bundesliga yet they have a really low odd as the first game of the Bundesliga tonight in the game against Werder Bremen.They are playing away,it is the first game of the league and surprise results are common at such events,I know the quality of Bayern Munchen clearly is a lot more than that of Werder Bremen but I always remember that Koln vs Bayern game of the last season where Bayern could not win and ended in a draw with a lot of difficulties for Bayern to get that draw.For tonight game at 1.29 odd I don't think is worth risking any money on Bayern.
The Bremen odds are at x8.5 and that is nice. Werder Bremen has one advantage, they play at home. At FC Bayern there is too much trouble and if they make many mistakes today, then it can go quickly and Füllkrug does need many chances for a goal. So a realistic chance for a win Bremen is there.

It only took 4 minutes for Bayern Munich to already take the lead. Sane scored at start and open the scoring and they are still dominating the match,if they continue to attack like this they will score 2-3 more goals,Werder needs to wake up or this can be an easy win for Bayern Munich.
The Bayern Munich squad has again shown its quality and this quick goal is actually not that surprising considering that Bayern Munich are used to doing this. Werder Bremen actually also replied to the goal earlier, but unfortunately their goal was not disallowed. In this match we also saw Harry Kane who was installed as a starter and it seems he is still in adaptation to find chemistry with the others. I think considering this is the opening match at least Bayern Munich will win with a score difference of 2 goals.
there is no doubt that after Kane was successfully recruited by Bayern munich the strength became greater and became more stable while the match was in progress and also coach Tuchel will continue to try to give directions to Kane so that he can quickly get chemistry from other players or in other words so that he quickly adapts to the players other. Im sure that if Kane has consistently been at Bayern Munich he will be the same as in the EPL with the top scorer even though the pattern of matches in the Bundesliga is different from the EPL at least Kane has to see the overall pattern of this game to look for loopholes to improve his career by scoring more scores this season.
Im also sure that the other players at Bayern Munich will soon be closer to Kane to communicate openly so that the adaptation is faster and also combining chemistry with other players is easier.

finally Kane proved to make a good contribution and in his first game he was able to score a goal and this was a very good start for Kane.
2862  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 19, 2023, 07:04:56 AM
Is there really an update on this because the last I read on Mbappe's news was where he agreed to renew his contract for one season but with a note that he might be sold next season and that was the last time I read an update on Mbappe's news.
There is too much speculation and news about Mbappe which makes us dizzy in the end for what Mbappe's future is like so in this case I think we still have to wait about the official decision made by PSG management and Mbappe but unfortunately they seem to be comfortable in the news and exposure that makes this confusing.
I think the rumors of tension between Mbappe and Neymar are true, because if Mbappe stays and signs a new contract extension then that could become a fact. Neymar has officially joined the SPL with Al Hilal, and the news that the French striker is staying and extending his contract has been widely publicized after Neymar departure. I think this is very related, but there is no definite source about this.

On the other hand, Madrid will bite their fingers again if they are not successful in recruiting Mbappe, and reportedly Madrid has given an ultimatum not to recruit him if he signs a new contract extension with PSG.
are you confused with this drama? yes me too.
from last season break until now how many months have we discussed about Mbappe which has no clarity even rumors keep changing uncertain news but from the start I had a little thought that Mbappe transfer would never happen in the summer unless Mbappe extended the contract after that next season PSG will throw at a high price and it seems that Real Madrid has no interest in signing him for the following season.
of course, Madrid is a little disappointed that they failed to get this player this summer, even though Madrid seemed to really hope that after Benzema departure, Mbappe could be replaced and I also think whether PSG treatment of Mbappe is just a subtle rejection of Real Madrid.
2863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 19, 2023, 06:30:00 AM
After Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid these teams, Sevilla have remarkably maintained their position every season. This team had a great performance against Manchester City, so it is understood that this team will have a great impact in La Liga.
Fierce league are always regarded as competitive and it's very important we mapped out the essential points following these clubs. We are expecting good performance from every single clubs that's in La Liga. Sevilla is an elite club with good potentials, the coach, José Luis Mendilibar will definitely work with everything in his capability to level up the club's performance. Laliga is really tough this season, we definitely going to watch high level of competition between elite and inferior clubs. Perhaps Real Madrid and Barcelona remained the club's that dominated Laliga with full strength.
top teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid will always dominate La Liga every season but for Sevilla there will be no hope of reaching the top of the standings. I mean not because I judge Sevilla badly but Sevilla has a target that is not La Liga but to get a title in the UCL so it is very likely that after winning the European league cup last season Sevilla will try to focus on the UCL and have to compete with rival teams like Real Madrid. all fans want the best for Seville but not in La Liga.

and for now Im actually thinking about something important that Madrid has lost Benzema who has been a mainstay since appearing in the champions league and to this day there has been no substitute for this reliable player and whether Madrid will be able to win the UCL title without Benzema. I know Real Madrid has more experience than other teams but how can it be possible to be strong without quality players.
2864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: August 19, 2023, 06:15:40 AM
Al Hilal , Al nassr and Al itihad are gonna be really funny to see how they fight for the tittle, and also some other teams have strong squad, not so strong like the teams i mention but really well players.

This first lost for Al Nassr its not good thinking about the future and a tight finish.

Whether just about those three teams to fight for the title? Because in fact, the team that beat Al Nassr in yesterday match also had famous players and coaches. So yes, the Saudi Pro League is not only about the three teams you mentioned, because there are still Al Ahli and also Al Ettifaq as teams who have star players in their squad. Thus, the competition in the title race in the Saudi Pro League will remain competitive, because there are at least five teams that have the chance to be included in the title winning candidates.

That way, the Saudi Pro League will still have competitive competition because not just one or two teams will dominate. Imagine, what if you only had one team that dominated the league for more than 10 seasons, and that happened to Bayern Munich, but the truth is you still have an interest in that too, right? So yes, here in the Saudi Pro League even though only some very rich teams, but at least they will still have more interesting competition because it's not just about one team.
It's true that I witnessed that there are at least five strong Teams in the Saudi Pro League, the competition for trophies until the end of the season will become very competitive gradually. Especially if all the clubs are funded with adequate support, the SPL will automatically increase significantly. So far Al Ahli has taken the top spot in the list of the most expensive squad in the SPL, followed by Ittihad, Al Hilal, Al Nassr and Al Ettifaq.

plus this season the team from Saudi Arabia managed to get European players who once had good quality in Europe such as Benzema, Ronaldo, Neymar etc. these were top players who were recruited by the Arab team and the competition became more difficult. I do not need to say which team has players from Europe but the presence of European players is also an influence on this competitive rivalry.
but for some reason people only look at the Al Nassr team or just because there has Ronaldo even though Benzema has just joined Al Hilal and also Neymar.
on the one hand, if some people want to pay attention to all the teams in the table, in fact, the five teams from the top are very strong teams in the SPL, as you said, the more they are financed with large amounts, the more they will be very strong.
2865  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 19, 2023, 05:37:53 AM
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Expect Dembele to do great things at PSG. This is because Mbappe is a fast player and Dembele is also a very fast player. So the chemistry between the two can build up tremendously.
Ousmane Dembele is a different player than Neymar. I don't see Dembele playing for himself, he proved it at Barcelona with Xavi. Dembele tends to rarely score goals, but he is the type of player who makes a big contribution to other players' goals.

After all, Dembele and Mbappe are compatriot players who already have a close relationship at the national team. They are players who have good talent belonging to PSG at the moment who can possibly play well in a team. Nevertheless, I hope Luis Enrique can turn Dembele into a goal machine instead of expecting him to have high assists, it will be useful for PSG if Mbappe leaves the following season.
there is no need to doubt or look at Dembele in terms of performance because it is very clear when compared to Neymar, it is definitely very different, but PSG taking this player does not mean that they have to have the same performance as Neymar and what Enrique wants is Dembele to be able to unite his chemistry with other players, especially Mbappe. I support what you said Dembele is not a scorer but he knows how to provide the right pass for his friends who have the chance to score.
so Enrique might collaborate these two players but do not know if its true and we all see what will happen for sure Dembele can not disappoint PSG fans.
2866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: August 18, 2023, 06:43:34 PM
ok guys, now there are 2 days left until the start of Serie A and I have already placed my first bets

Frosinone - Napoli 2 @ 1.38
Genoa - Fiorentina X @ 3.3
Inter - Monza 1 @ 1.39

total odds 6.33

given the odds I think it's quite feasible
I welcome advice and opinions  Wink
do you not want to add Roma to your bet slip ? for me even though the odds are only @ 1.52 but that will add to your total odds for the better. according to my prediction Roma vs Salernitana is a little sure if Roma have a bigger chance to win because Roma will be the host and also we know that in the last 5 matches of these two teams it is clear that Roma are always superior

and for Genoa vs Fiorentina I think choosing Genoa is a bit risky because this team has just been promoted and this is the first match in this season and in history Fiorentina can always beat Genoa. maybe you choose Genoa because you are the host but for me it is better to choose a draw.

these are not suggestions but only predictions according to my own analysis. there is always a risk of all this.
2867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is to be blamed, the gambler or the betting agent on: August 18, 2023, 02:15:42 PM
Well, if you can lend a cash advance to your worker so he can pay his debt on the betting agent, then problem solved. However, you cannot guarantee that the same scenario will not happen again especially that you are making things easier for your worker to gamble and lose his money in the end.

For me, I’d say the one at fault here is the gambler itself since he’s not supposed to gamble more than his income. And if by chance he’s just taking advantage from the agent’s offer without the intention to pay, then I must say the gambler is not a responsible and a reliable one especially when it comes to paying off his debt.
This is a risky proposition, lending money to a person that you know is difficult, but doing so to help them paid a debt which was incurred while gambling seems like a bad idea.

As if you were to give them that loan then they could simply quit the next day, get another job at another place and now you will have to be the one spending your time to try to find them, and even if this did not happened now you have created the expectation that if they are in financial troubles you will give them a loan, and if you are not careful they could take you with you on their path to financial ruin.
exactly., and more precisely, do not lend money to anyone, even if its your own employee or someone closest to you because the negative effect of giving a loan to anyone will destroy relationships and on the other hand financially will also be destroyed. I mean when you lend money to your friends, of course, one day you will end your friendship when you can not return the money and you really need the money.
like the case that was written by the OP even though its not clear who is at fault but in the end he will lose his customers for providing loans but taking advantage of the situation even though the gambler can return the money but after that the gambler will no longer bet there. from this problem we can take a valuable lesson that using borrowed money to gamble is not very good and also lending money to gamblers is also not very good in the long run.
2868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling discussion effect on: August 18, 2023, 12:57:04 PM
I doubt you would find most casino signature campaign participants are not actual gamblers or social gamblers. They are here to earn Bitcoin which I am not against but in such a post where OP feels that by discussing gambling he is getting influenced. It is better OP leaves the gambling signature campaign and works on a discussion that has a positive influence on him. You gambling by choice, peer pressure is understandable but getting influenced due to discussion on a forum with anonymity is just nonsense for me. 
Will he avoid every campaign about gambling? impossible because he will not join in Trustdice campaign.
Will he leave his current campaign? high unlikely.

But as we have read his post, the best solution is leaving the campaign and join other campaign that not related with gambling because he feel participating in gambling discussion can influence bad habit.

My prediction he will comeback and say he already can control himself to not become an addict, so it can convince everyone if his post in gambling discussion isn't shitpost.
this conversation gets little more interesting because after all everyone here is right. I mean not everyone join this signature campaign active gambler but only to get bitcoin for use in other things such as long term investment or even some user use the BTC for gambling. but it seems to me that this discussion will not affect OP activities because on this gambling discussion only share stories of each user experience about gambling and if OP feels he is influenced by this discussion and become compelled to continue betting I will very much agree with more suggestions either get out of campaign and go into discussions that suit the OP wishes.
however, it hard to deny that someone who has entered the campaign will never leave because getting something for free will definitely not be left out.

If only there was a way to see if his gambling account was really betting I think it would be better to see who was really gambler and use the results of campaign to betting. Roll Eyes
2869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Playing Slot Games On Demo/Free mode Vs Live/Paid Mode on: August 18, 2023, 12:21:47 PM
And then, i became confused, and i began asking myself if it was possible i could have won this same amount if I had continued to play in live/paid mode
Im sure it seems very clear and has been answered by other people here about this question because a lot of people have slot experience here but I will answer based on my experience only.

first of all it depends on how many maxwin you have in the game you are playing and depends on your budget or your bet amount. for example, you imagine or want a $5k win because you are motivated from the demo version if you want to get at least your bet amount is $1 and play from a pragmatic provider, for example Gates Of Olympus which has a maxwin of 5000x and if you are lucky you will get a maxwin of $5k.

but we need to wish it would not be as easy as we imagine or not as easy as playing the demo version because we always remember that slot games are based on luck with an RNG that you can not predict when luck will come. even if you keep playing slots, its not certain that you will get maxwin.

if you have an interest in seeing the experiences of slot players and want to discuss it in more length, try looking for threads here regarding their slot games there to share experiences about slot games.
2870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 18, 2023, 11:51:39 AM
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@shinratensei Sevilla has one aim only i.e. to qualify for the champions league and that’s why they keep winning the Europa league and it wouldn’t surprise me if they once again land themselves in the Europa League this season too because luck is on their side when they’re playing in this competition. Furthermore I don’t expect any major improvements from them in the La Liga so if anyone feels like wagering on them during La Liga matches I would advise not to because they’re very unpredictable when playing in La Liga.
yep, exactly! this is not a suggestion but more to share someone experience and I really understand what @Juggy777 said because it is true what you said that Sevilla has targets in other competitions such as UCL or European league which means Sevilla will not focus too much on La Liga so it is very difficult to predict whether Sevilla will win.
my experience last season I would start betting for Sevilla towards the end of the season when getting a position for a ticket to the European league or champions league so teams like this will try to fight for their position in order to get tickets to a bigger competition and for me I bet in the mid to the end of the season was more worthy of Sevilla.
2871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 18, 2023, 11:35:40 AM
I don’t really know why Manchester City didn’t perform well in the match, maybe it’s because of De Bruyne's injury. I think Pep Guardiola has to look for a replacement for De Bruyne because he will be going for surgery and he won’t be coming back soon. Let’s see how Manchester City will perform against Newcastle in their next match. I know it won’t really be easy for Manchester City.


The departure of some of the best players means they don't have a similar replacement yet. Gudongan, making the midfield line has no attack creator other than De Bruyne. If Bruyne is injured then Man City are like losing a creative person. I think against Sevilla they lost 2-0, it was difficult for them to win. Unfortunately, several goal-ready chances failed.
losing one player does not mean the team performance will decrease and have we forgotten that Man City has a great coach and also a reliable player like haaland? the injury experienced by De Bruyne does not mean that Man City performance was bad for the match against Sevilla because have we also forgotten something that Sevilla is the defending holder of the European league cup?

it would not be surprising for me if Man City had a little trouble beating Sevilla because of what I said before and also for me Man City match against Sevilla was very good because in the second half Man City players managed to score which made the match enter the penalty round and end win.
if someone still says Man City performance is not good, I think that is very wrong.
2872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 18, 2023, 11:18:51 AM
Even after the game between Sevilla and Macnshter City in which Sevilla lost the game in the penalty kicks, there are some offers from Saudi League for Sevilla's goalkeeper Yassine Bounou, this time again Al Hilal sent an offer for this goalkeeper and after hiring Neymar from Paris they want to have a batter goalkeeper.
Bounou is under contract with Sevilla until 2025 and it seems it is going to join Al Hilal for 21m.


It has been confirmed by romano https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1692275981153673604

Bono officially joined in al hilal as a new goal keeper. Al hilal is seriously trying to strengthen its club in all sectors. It's started with winger, midfielder, defenders and now goal keeper. There will be some players already under target by al hilal at this moment.
It would not surprise me to see another popular name to be recruited by al hilal. I hear that if ittihad is seriously trying to recruit salah from liverpool which is amazing if it's coming true. Salah has been reported interesting to leave from liverpool and join in al hilal as long as al hilal gets a greelight from liverpool to buy salah from the club. It will become another sensational transfer after neymar to the al hilal.

Im waiting for another surprise came from saudi clubs. Saudi clubs is very aggresive in recruiting the new player from the various clubs.
it extraordinary that the team from saudi arabia is very aggressive in getting players from europe even Bounou as a good quality goalkeeper was also bought by the SPL team and met Neymar at Al Hilal. It is very surprising that a team from the SPL is really very confident in increasing the popularity of football there to become part of the best league in the world by recruiting large numbers of european players at very high prices.
I know the history of Bounou who has a lot of experience in various teams and this is an advantage for Al Hilal to get this reliable goalkeeper and Im sure the competition in the SPL will be even stronger after the arrival of European players.
2873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 18, 2023, 10:23:22 AM
Neymar's shirt in PSG got a new owner and now Dembele is a player who is going to wear the number ten in PSG for next season, in fact when there was some news about Mbappe leaving PSG there were some people they said Dembele will use the number seven. But now the posters of Dembele's shirt are published and he will use the number ten.
dembele really suits this number, he deserves the number 10, it was difficult for PSG to get Dembele because xavi and barcelona really expected him to be there but Dembele's determination is quite strong especially at PSG he gets pretty good money.  After it was reported that Mbappe had officially extended his contract until 2025, it was hoped that Dembele could match with Mbappe.  to make PSG's attack line even sharper, Enrique must be able to provide a good combination for the PSG squad because PSG's stock of good strikers is quite a lot (there are Ramos, Asensio, ekitike and lee)

It's not so difficult to get dembele. PSG was only sending its first bid for dembele and he agreed with it. It doesn't even take a long time like mbappe which is also interesting in extending his contract in PSG rather than leave from the club.
Dembele is replacing neymar and i believe dembele will always become a starting lineup. It's pretty interesting to know the position of goncalo ramos after mbappe was coming back again. I remember that mbappe mostly played as central forward previuos season.
Since he is going back again and i do believe if mbappe will try to take that position again. PSG acquired Goncalo Ramos to occupy that position,will Enrique bench Ramos?

PSG had so many strikers but none of them were useful. They were underperform. That's why PSG is very happy mbappe comes back again.
Dembele was contracted for 5 years and this seems very convincing that PSG really believes that Dembele can help PSG to win a title this season at the top of the standings and regarding Gancalo Ramos it looks like Enrique will provide a new strategy using Mbappe and Ramos for attacking line positions because it takes advantage of performance Ramos seems to be very good to work with Mbappe but these two players seem to have a strong chemistry first but the situation is a little difficult and lets see in the upcoming matches maybe my prediction was a little wrong.
2874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wagering requirements for withdraw on: August 18, 2023, 09:37:32 AM
The requirements to make a withdrawal in any casino, as I am a player, the first thing I do is check whether or not it is convenient for me to be in that casino, as I am a fan of things in my casino, or in the casino that I prefer. things are different, for example I'm in duelbits and I had no problem with KYC or anything like that, because when I made my withdrawal things went well, what some users complained about was that the KYCs were not approved quickly, now things are not like that, the requirements are more difficult in part is that, the system and the conditions that vary because each player has their abilities and is capable of doing what they feel most able to achieve.


It's not about KYC but did you agree if you should wager first before you will able to withdraw your money? Many people have different opinion regarding this but that's fair for me as long as the cap will not be so high. As OP explained that if some casino forced us to wager at least 25% from the total deposited which mean a lot for some people. I think that anyone has no problem as long as it will be far less than it. KYC is another problem.
I think that you can try to directly asnwer it.
for some people it may not agree with these rules but for experienced gamblers the situation is very common when depositing to an online site after that you want to withdraw your budget and have to bet at least once. as long as the rules make sense to me it does not matter because usually these conditions are only 1x or 2x times the deposit, that very normal.

we try to think about other things, for example when someone disagrees with these rules, but why does that person register at the casino and make a deposit? is not it when he registers and deposits money on the site he has read all the terms or rules and also to bet right? so if they do not agree with the rules have to bet before withdrawing money its a little confusing because the purpose of depositing money to the site to gamble except for depositing money is only to get a deposit bonus for free. and it is also very unlikely that we will get this bonus without making a bet because of course we will be required to fulfill the 35x requirement or whatever the amount is to get this bonus.

in conclusion, agree or disagree with these rules or conditions, the user must continue to carry out these conditions because we enter the site, we should have read all the rules.
2875  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: August 18, 2023, 08:21:16 AM
We are unable to depend on gambling for a living because it is dangerous and unreliable. Gambling should be classified as a recreational activity in which we utilize our spare time.
We see high rollers, they gamble with very big amounts of money and can win big amounts too and if you look at the numbers used and won by high rollers, they are very large and enough to finance the lives of people who live in certain countries, but of course not for the country where the high roller lives, also we don't know for sure about his finances it could be that he is stable enough and has a lot of income so losing and winning at gambling is not a problem for him, and he doesn't depend on the results of gambling for living expenses because he has had income or other sources to be able to finance his life, and of course people like that also already have huge assets meaning he is rich.
read the high roller the money they have or the winning money they get is not a big amount but from a certain point of view it is a very high amount and we imagine it can provide a better life for other people but I do not think that the concept.

when it comes to high rollers for fun or for a steady income its a little hard to see because it a strategy or an individual goal that hard to analyze. but there are 2 possibilities the first one because indeed that person is very rich and bet $100k just like us bet $100 so its not a big amount for him so keep betting big like this forum user who shared his bet in another thread and Im sure you know it. and for the second possibility high rollers are betting huge amounts to get a side income from gambling like for example right now the gambling site that on our signature is doing a birthday event on this site with a huge $10 million total prize pool and lucky people with total bets big will get a ticket to get the prize so the high rollers bet a large amount to get the prize.
2876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What you will do? on: August 18, 2023, 08:05:32 AM
Everyone must have experienced loss, whether it's a big or small loss. And he experienced loss more often than he won. Has anyone ever experienced boredom playing gambling because they have been losing more often than winning? If anyone has experienced this, what did you do?

I'm giving out a poll to find out what all of you did and which one all of you voted for the most. I choose the number one because if I can take a break from playing gambling, I feel that I can handle my emotion with good, which can save some money. I already tried to take a break for a while to calm myself down and that worked for me.
there nothing I can do because I gamble just to fill my free time and for fun, even though I really want to win or even lose more often, its become normal for me so I do not have to make any effort because Im not a gambler professional or gambling addict and only bet when I want to bet only when I get bored of course everyone will quit betting.
maybe the opinion of some people here are different but indeed most will definitely choose first option because it is best way to control yourself and to save on the gambling budget so that it does not run out quickly but please always think about winning or losing it a normal thing without us having to chase so bet when you want to bet and think of it like testing your luck with small numbers to get four numbers from betting.
2877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: August 18, 2023, 07:39:20 AM
good self control, responsible gambling and a positive mindset are the main factors to make a better gambler so that any negative influence that can affect a gambler can always be ignored with a broad mind. with this, gamblers do not need to be too ambitious to think too much about the difficulties of quit gambling or how to avoid gambling, but enough commitment and consistent self control, I do not think I will bet recklessly. if a gambler has that kind of commitment Im sure they can never be provoked or emotional because he always has a way to avoid those negative things.

That's right, every gambler is required to have some self-control, if they don't have it then it is very possible for them to fall into gambling. We can see a lot of cases that occur about those who put too much ambition in gambling, all of them end up with downturns and some even get stressed. Well, it's actually not too difficult to deal with problems like this, just agree with yourself on some limits that they should do when they experience for example defeat and at that time try to stop and rest first. Believe me, most gamblers are addicted because they put too much hope for a win, but on the other hand this is gambling. We have to be healthy gamblers who know what we are doing, gambling operates under the human consciousness so it is not strange if they lose a lot there because they do it based on emotions. 
of several important factors to avoid the bad things of gambling that I have said before it is self control that is most important here when a big loss or win comes to a gambler and related to gamblers who are already addicted does not mean that their self control is very bad but its just that a lot the reason someone will lose control when betting, for example, is having problems from the family and forcing them to gamble because they vent their anger at gambling and for me that is very bad because when betting in a state of anger or when there is a problem, of course he will lose control even though he has won will continue to bet to get bigger.
it is indeed difficult to get used to being consistent with your own rules but if a gambler is able to keep trying I am sure they will have good control and a wise mindset.
2878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 18, 2023, 07:14:06 AM
I don't think if Roma can have too many changes in the next season because Roma didn't pay too much in this transfer window to buy many players for the next season, even if they got a famous and experienced coach like Jose Mourinho in this team but if Jose Mourinho doesn't have enough tool he can't do anything there. They had problems with forward because Roma doesn't have many forward to replace Dybala.
But still, the winning chance for Roma is much higher than Salernitana.


even the bookmakers also favored Roma in the match against Salernitana because we all know how Mourinho contributed to Roma, who until now has still given the best for his team even though he does not have a mainstay striker, but Mourinho has various strategies to be able to get the title they want even in this season. then almost got the trophy they wanted but it does not matter even if they lose but it has become proof to the fans that Roma can perform strong in every season under Mourinho. take advantage of this match a little because the chances of winning for Roma are slightly bigger so betting on Roma seems like the best choice even though you only get odds @1.52

2879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: As a gambler do you have a potential winning amount limit? on: August 18, 2023, 06:45:17 AM
This is spot on, it is completely irrational to try to recover our losses, think about it if you go to a restaurant to buy some food and have a good time with your friends once you pay for your share would you ask for your money back to the restaurant?

Of course not, you were provided a service and some food which you consumed and you have to pay for them, and casinos are the same, you received a service for which you paid so it is ridiculous to think you can get away with trying to get that money back.

The contrast between your topic and the concept of gambling I discussed earlier is different. Dining at a restaurant does not offer the possibility of winning money. Gambling provides an opportunity to win. No gambler, expects a refund from the casino after losing. Instead, they will start to making another deposit or increase their bets more and more after every loss. This pattern continues until they lose everything, driven by the hope of a big win to offset previous losses. Unfortunately, this strategy often results in an inability to recover losses, fueled by a misguided belief that big wins can offset previous losses.
I see from this discussion seems to be that @masulum intention is that gambling cannot be equated with a food restaurant because gamblers who bet do not expect their money back but gambling sometimes give a lucky chance to get a big win even though it is not equivalent to the previous loss but at least the gambler can get this opportunity.
but it seems that @wxa7115 judges that gambling is like restaurant food when we come to eat and pay to the cashier for the food we have eaten and it is impossible to ask the cashier to return the money unless maybe the restaurant gives a ticket every purchase will get a number of cash draws or any gift. with this, maybe it can be almost similar to gambling because people come to look for what they are looking for and after that there is another hope of getting a win, such as people going to restaurant waiting for prize ticket to be drawn and gamblers waiting for the chance to get a win.
2880  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Easy or hard to quit? on: August 18, 2023, 06:27:36 AM
I would say it depends entirely on one's will and goals. If I win a life-changing amount of money, I stop playing big. Because now I have money in my hands and I want to invest it in other ways. I don't want to take any more risks with the money I have earned. I'll go for areas that will bring me a daily income and I won't worry about making money for the rest of my life. For this reason, I would not stop gambling, but I think I will play even if it is for pleasure. Thanks to the high amount I won, I can say that taking such a risk again will cause very big problems, so I don't think I will choose to take such a bet again.
when someone wins big at gambling or gets something big from gambling of course anyone will leave gambling to live a better life with established investments and have lower risks and this is just the mindset of a healthy gambler. although they return to gambling with the thought of just having fun I think it does not matter because he definitely only uses the money he can afford to lose because on the one hand they already have an established income without expecting anything from gambling. but what Im really worried about is that one day the investment fails he will return to gambling in the hope of winning big again and I think big luck will only come once in our lives.
If you all agree that whenever anyone wins a very big amount of money in gambling, they will quit gambling and enter into another aspect of life where they can enjoy their life and invest their money. This really means we do not actually gamble for entertainment. We actually gamble for the money. If we gamble for entertainment it therfore means that even if we win a very huge amount of money we will continue to gamble in order to get ourselves entertained. I am very certain that more than 80% of people in gambling do not do so for entertainment only.
and also not everyone who already has an established life after winning big they continue to gamble just for fun but a small percentage of them gamble still expecting another big win and that not very good. if this is done continuously they will lose all the money in their savings and also the investment will definitely be messed up because in the hope of winning big dopamine in the mind will increase giving the effect of addiction or greed so that they will lose their established life. so even if someone wins big already has a more settled life it would be better to control the mindset not to expect big wins and also stick with a small budget for gambling.
in psychology when gambling using a small budget our brain will not expect something big I mean for example using a $30 budget when he gets a $50 win he feels if it is already a big win but if he uses a $5k budget and gets a $1000 win I think he still feels he is still not big enough and must exceed that $5k budget. so the mindset must also be set in the habit of being committed to your own rules.
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