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2861  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if Bitcoin was Created by the CIA, FBI, US Military??? on: August 27, 2019, 10:38:34 PM
What if Bitcoin was actually created by the CIA, or FBI, US Military to gather some intelligence? This weird imagination has been lingering in my brain because Bitcoin has all the signatures of what the USA Intelligence can create, Similar to the way they have created things in the past.

1. No one has ever created something as big and enormous as Bitcoin and chooses to remain anonymous. The temptation is always too strong for a mortal human being to resist.

2. I am of the opinion that Bitcoin is too complex to be the handwork of one man or few persons. And how it was quickly accepted and distributed shows the evidence of complex and thorough planning, too thorough, and too complex to fit into one brain Roll Eyes

3. How the founders identities were carefully concealed from beginning to the end, without any trace. You will agree with me that only intelligence professional can achieve that level of privacy and anonymity.

And you know, they won't make noise about it until they have gathered enough intelligence. Or may never say anything about it forever, just using it secretly for their purpose. What do you think? Have you ever reasoned in this direction?

I would say who cares, its Free and Open Source Software. Just like TOR, made by the US Navy, or SELinux by the NSA.

I doubt they would be able to justify it unlike the aforementioned projects. Tor was needed for operatives secure communications behind enemy lines, and SELinux to secure computers used by all agencies. What would they justify something like Bitcoin for?

I doubt they are involved, even if the maker (or group) might actually work for any of them. Cypherpunks are actually associated with the NSA, even if they deny it some of the best cryptographers are in there (the NSA) and they often recruit brilliant people.

In any case it doesn't matter. You have the source, if you suspect something, audit it.
2862  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: First ever project!!! (need advice and tips) on: August 27, 2019, 09:54:13 PM
the safety of the power supply is my biggest concern, ive got an electrician who can take a look at the power requirements.
fire is a huge concern for me as I've read that drawing high amounts of watts can often melt plugs and sockets.
I was intending to have a PC connected to the Network switch so that I could easily log into the miners and change any config settings as needed. A laptop does seem like a more portable solution, thanks i will take that in consideration.

Can you tell me if you think that "miner hosting" solutions are worth considering? I've seen a place offering Power for 0.03khw which is marginally cheaper then my supplier (will be close to a micro hydro plant).

You need 200~250v check the amp rating of the units you intend to use, and make sure things do not exceed 80% capacity.

Most Asic miners (except Canaan until recently) come bundled with their own computer controller attached, they do not need a PC or raspi. The controllers are usually simple ARM cpus with Linux running cgminer or variant of with a web ui.

I don't know about trusting others with your mining equipment, especially when you already have a good place.

Each S9 is said to need 250CFM, make sure you move enough air for all of them. Cooling is unnecessary, but its nice if you can filter the dust from the air to lower maintenance needs. Humidity should be above 20% and below 70%, ambient temperature 0°C to 40°C iirc.

MicroBT's Whatsminer M20 is not so power hungry and is very efficient, the monster would the the M20S, but i think the M20 is better for ease of use and install. Note that the M20S is physically larger and heavier as well. BTW those probably need more CFM each per unit...
2863  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Static Red light by SSH (Help) on: August 27, 2019, 09:41:25 PM
Is there a command to put static red light by SSH on Antminer S9/s9i ? I've been struggling to figure out.

You can control the LED lights with BraiinsOS, or force them to blink or not to identify units.

Identifying a miner in a farm

The local miner utility can also be used to identify a particular device by enabling aggressive blinking of the red LED:

$ miner fault_light on

Similarly to disable the LED run:

$ miner fault_light off
2864  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer T9+ & S9, full hashrate at browser view but only 5T to 6T in pool view on: August 27, 2019, 07:03:15 PM
thanks for your suggestions and solutions.

internet bandwidth : 20mbps
machines : 77 units

no other surfing workstation, etc... the 20mbps is purely for mining machines only.

i found out there are few abnormal tcp/udp port in the network monitoring...

udp 123 (NTP)
port 995
port 4070

Do we need this for mining  Huh Huh Huh

Do you have this problem in all 77 units? If not, i doubt its a problem with your LAN. Unless you have badly made cable or have a switch issue that involves that specific group of miners.

Do test without any LPM modes enabled, and with another pool.

A single S9 needs like 1KB/sec, so 1mbps should suffice for 125 units...
2865  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Antminer S9 Volt Rocket Ship firmware mod! ~ALL S9 MODELS INCLUDING S9i S9j~ on: August 27, 2019, 06:52:12 PM
Was the s17 firmware cracked yet like the s15?

Why don't you ask in the S17 thread? This thread is a bit too obscure to ask about the S17 firmware don't you think?
2866  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Bitcoin Mining on an APPLE II Computer! Highly Impractical Other Devices? Poll! on: August 27, 2019, 06:45:46 PM
It is probably faster than human computation, but not by much. Add that these 8 bit computers often had 48k of ram at most, and serial links of maybe 9600 bps (tho i bet someone made some Ethernet card for it).

I can think of several more suitable uses for it. I know someone in youtube uses one as terminal emulator.

Sure its cpu is about the same thing on the nes, if you can compute blocks with it, you could theoretically do that there as well. These things are many orders of magnitude slower than current cpus, and cpu mining is considered absolutely useless, so you can imagine the point of computing a block with these.

But for fun, getting the hash rate, as in, how long it takes to compute 1 hash, would be something funny to note. Wait to discover a block? not worth it.

I think a human used to take about 3 days to get 1 hash done, but that was before with much lower difficulty.
2867  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Justin Sun Makes a Bold Statement on Facebook’s Libra on: August 27, 2019, 06:25:40 PM
I don't know about the Tron project, but what was the "bold" statement? Why can't you bring a quote of it so that there is no need to visit an external site for discussion?

So I'll have to spend more of my metered bandwidth thanks to you to bring it here...

Quote
“Facebook’s entry into crypto will facilitate blockchain’s bright future.”

The saddest thing is that this "article" is about comments on a discussion hosted elsewhere...

And this is a "bold" statement? Actually seems to be another Libra fanboy comment (there were several identical ones on this very forum). But no, i don't think Libra is that relevant, but the discussion it brought to some spaces is good.

I don't know if Zuckerberg has the money and intention to lobby his coin in congress. The (true) American way, is, fill with money the pockets of enough politicians (aka. Lobby) and hope the opposing lobby(ies) don't have more money than him so it doesn't get opposed on the floor. That's the only way his coin could survive (in America).

Well "blockchain's" future is already bright without Libra or Tron for that matter, even the banks are happily using it for various things. A distributed, secure ledger, as they say, just has too many applications. I guess Tron wants their blockchain to be used more, so that would explain that comment.
2868  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will Bitcoin be more energy efficient? on: August 27, 2019, 05:28:57 PM
I am asking as a non developer looking for the links to project or the timeline of developing solutions to this problem. Thank You

The answer to your question is easy: Soon. Everyday this gets closer. Why? Because mining is becoming unprofitable at any electricity price. You will see this unfold in the next decade or so. As both asics become efficient and mining rewards lowers down the drain, most miners, especially the big ones will leave.

What these guys doing these charts never consider is how mining has slowly becoming more and more unprofitable, you you need to spend more and more to mine and those others doing the same lower the profitability overall. There is something like a worldwide cap that is about to be reached.

Bitcoin price will NOT compensate for mining at the same rate, the rate at which mining has expanded is different to the bitcoin price curve, compare both and you'll get the answer. Bitcoin price increases will slow down more and more, while mining profitability slows down more and more, faster than what the bitcoin price is.

As an Austrian school economist would say: The best thing to do, is do nothing. It IS fixing itself by the market. The time for mining is ending, even if a couple of Asic generation come it is getting to the point where nobody will buy them anymore. This market will contract so much that, if the likes of Bitmain are unprepared, they might as well close doors.

While certain other altcoin wants to do this by force, it is naturally occurring to Bitcoin. Just wait.
2869  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why hasn't any altcoin replaced bitcoin? on: August 27, 2019, 01:25:22 AM
The most logical reason for that is; Bitcoin was created first and get the hype in the early stage. Altcoins tech is better and they have more features but whatever they do, nothing can replace Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a revolution.

Being the first or Alpha does not ensure a spot to be the "king" as most would say. It is true that there are some altcoins that works better that Bitcoin but still, no one replaces Bitcoin. The mere explanation for this is the people support. People support bitcoin more than any cryptocurrency out there. Without this support, no altcoin could dethrone Bitcoin.

Basically this. The people trusts Bitcoin, the others? Not so much. That is reflected in the market value. Bitcoin did things good enough for most people, while most others always sacrifice something, often decentralization which makes any alternative coin worthless.
2870  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anonymity with your Bitcoin Transactions on: August 27, 2019, 01:10:25 AM
Before, you could  easily stay anonymous by using multiple exchanges for transactions, although of course it comes with a cost (negligible entirely back then) and the process is painstaking. Along came mixers, although at the current times, governments are already looking at it with a watchful eye. Binance, like squatter said, can be pretty much an avenue to circumvent KYC laws, though the question is until when? Tor doesn't help one bit; it only changes your IPs but not mask your addresses.

Authorities from hostile (anti Bitcoin) countries need to match addresses with IPs, that is why Tor is very useful, especially when you use it with your Bitcoin wallet. But the true strength is when you use Tor's own "Hidden services", which is what the DEX Bisq does, or anyone wanting to host a more anonymous service should (ie. a .onion address).

If you DO use Tor with your Bitcoin wallet, and always use an address once and only once per transaction, you should be pretty much safe. Do you know there are Electrum servers running as hidden services in Tor?
2871  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Original BTC White paper from Satoshi Nakamoto on: August 27, 2019, 12:54:44 AM
Hello,

im actually searching for the very first version of the white paper published by Satoshi Nakamoto in 2008, on Cryptography Mailing List.

The actual one, available everywhere is edited (from 2009) and give a weird Chinese code when open with a txt editor.

Chinese code? I don't think you should be opening PDFs with text editors...
2872  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is the brain wallet not better than regular paper wallet? on: August 27, 2019, 12:49:24 AM
If you write a seed phrase or words we can't consider it as brain wallet but a paper wallet because we can only call it brain wallet by memorizing the seed phrase. That is why Brain wallet is a bad idea. 12 to 24 words is not easy to memorize so having a hardware wallet is the best option without memorizing the seedphrase.

I think you just don't understand or confused about the concept of brain wallet.

You are right.  Thanks for correcting me on that.  I realize I don't have exact term for the way I am going to protect my BTC.  I don't like BTC paper wallet because of the possibility of losing it or it gets too damaged for me to read it.  I don't like hardware wallet because I cannot customize the seed phrase to what I want (Ledger Nano, ie).  

Now, here is my solution.  I can create a private key using 20 words.  And I can make the last 5 words something only I know.  I can email my family (and myself) the first 15 words.  Then, I can email them the clues of my last 5 words.  Of course, I have to do a damn good job that only the ones I fully trust know the answers.  So, I guess my method is 3/4 paper - 1/4 brain wallet?  

I would appreciate some feedback on this idea of mine.  

What makes you think you only need to have 1 paper? You can copy that paper (with your own hands) and spread them to different secure locations. You can even create your own secret method to restore the order of the words, and yes you can custom those words all you want or even steno-graph them somewhere...

I don't like brain anything, and email is just begging for trouble.

I'd keep the cold wallet (with paper seed words) for the savings, and the hardware wallet for the small change (daily use), if you'd rather not use a computer or phone app wallet.
2873  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Canaan Avalon 1066 on: August 26, 2019, 11:59:56 PM
But what is the extent of the possible bitcoin ban in India? Does it include mining? or simply bringing coins? Have You considered the other asic miners? Given your borderline electricity price you want the most efficient unit, not necessarily the one with the biggest TH/s (in fact always divide watts with TH to get the most efficient one).

If you do this math for this unit it gives 64, which is a tad higher than other units. take a look at the M20 and S17, seek the most efficient miner even if it means running at half hashrate.

Perhaps setting your miner in a different country with cheaper electricity would be more wise.
2874  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer s9i Dashboard can't activating, shows red light .. HELP ME, Please ! on: August 26, 2019, 11:46:58 PM
I Bought the Miner S9i 14TH/S.

I noticed that one of the hashboard is not activating.

The red light does not even come on from the first plate in detail,
indicating that the plast is not working.

Any suggestions if this could be Factory or configuration issue ?

You could try plugging only that board. Then keep switching data and power cables, with only that board plugged in. If it never comes up, i think you should contact Bitmain for warranty.

Of course don't just observe the light but look at its web mining status page to see if it comes online or not...
2875  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Impact of Bitcoin growing Dominance on the Crypto space on: August 26, 2019, 11:30:37 PM
Bitcoin being the pioneer cryptocurrency has always had a big gulf between it and other cryptocurrencies in the market mostly in term of valuation. Although this is expected, the growing dominance BTC is having on the entire crypto market does not speak good for the crypto space...
As at the time of this publication, btc dominance in the crypto market account for 68.4 percent, with this being the highest since April 2017. The question is what does this growth in dominance imply?those it suggest an immiment pump? since the bull run started not long after such high dominance was recorded  or those it imply further dump for altcoins and increase it btc valuation...
Please share your opinions.

Its strange that you say "growing" when you already know it made it first and its the altcoins that have been unable to grow as much. If by "crypto space" you mean the altcoins, yes, it does not speak well for them. None managed to catch the market enough to challenge bitcoin, it remains the king unchallenged.

There is going to be an uptrend tendency towards the halving, and that is long known. No need to be a genius or anything. And after the halved production of bitcoins the price is going to be affected, and some calming will undo any excessive "pump" made during that time, which might take it too low and correct back up again, always seeking its true price which should be going up slowly but steady against everyone else that has infinite supply.
2876  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are banks scared of crypto on: August 26, 2019, 11:23:51 PM
Banks are not and won't be scared of crypto as long as the volatility will remain very high in this domain.

Imagine how would it be for you to be paid in crypto, this month you receive 1000$ and next month 500$. Would you still prefer to be paid in crypto or fiat?

And a year later that "500$" would be worth 2000$ if you kept it instead of using it all. Its a deflationary coin, people will learn that keeping it as long as they can is for their best benefit.

This will take time, as people have been brainwashed by the dominant economists that spending and getting in debt is better than saving for the future...

Bitcoin is not volatile, its value has been growing steady over a decade. Zoom out that chart and take a look, think how much it might get the next 10 years. I think something in-between 10k and 50k. It has to (and is) slow(ing) down, but it will never go flat, because fiat is losing value by human choice.

The fluctuation is a natural result of the free market, but in the end it always finds its true price. Again, zoom out. Its impressive that a bitcoin is already worth 10k USD, so much for "imaginary" money... But why the markets trust it? The answers are in this forum...
2877  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Short Story: Bitcoin Apocalypse on: August 26, 2019, 11:08:16 PM
Note: This story is a fiction of the future. It’s not exactly what will happen to Bitcoin.

The year is 2140. A apocalyptic disaster hits planet Earth. Human civilization is wiped out. Humans die of starvation and disease. Bitcoin mining network is down. Bitcoin satellites are still flying around Earth. But nobody communicates to them. Hashrate dropped to 0. No new block is created. Pockets of human survivors are trying to make through their days.

Bitcoin is dead. Except, it isn’t. It’s just silent. Its enormous difficulty is still waiting for someone to mine the next block. But nobody can. Much of the mining infrastructure is destroyed. Bitcoin death prediction was wrong. Civilization can collapse but Bitcoin is still there. Without sufficient hashrate, nobody can attack the Bitcoin blockchain.

Fast forward 100 years. The year is 2240. Humans rebuilt their infrastructure. They are about to reach mining hashrate before the apocalypse. Some groups of humans are able to recover bitcoins from exchanges. Having centralized exchanges can be useful for recovery effort. The network is about to produce new blocks.

But this time, Bitcoin splits into 2 chains. Some people want to soft fork and restart mining rewards since so many coins were lost. The total theoretical supply limit of Bitcoin will be 42 million. Other people want to stick with the original supply limit of 21 million. The first group achieves majority. They took the domain name, social media handles. They anoint new leaders and proclaim themselves to be the true Bitcoin. The second group is angry. They rename their chain to Bitcoin Apocalypse to remind people that they are the Bitcoin chain before the apocalypse. And they also vow to bring apocalypse to the self-proclaimed true Bitcoin chain. Just like the forks that came before, Bitcoin Apocalypse will fade in memory.

Bitcoin is still not dead. It continues to live along with humans. It adapts to the majority consensus. It’s sneaky and controlling. It feeds and survives on human’s desire to fight and control. Bitcoin sheds its old self if necessary. It rules over the world of cryptocurrencies. Its existence seems to immune to human’s suffering and will.

The End.

This comes from two things I learn recently:

1. Hashrate drop to 0 is not going to kill Bitcoin. The network just goes to sleep.
2. Bitcoin doesn’t have to be completely decentralized.

Well i do have a lots of criticism to make of this, on various aspects. First i don't see the need to take this to "100 years", only to do it again. Yes by the year 2140 is expected for the last bitcoin to come, but by then or in fact several years before that (like a hundred lol), bitcoin production will be so slow most people would have forgot you could still mine it. Someone mentioned Dogecoin, and that is a good example. Its unlimited, and almost no one mines it, but you still can. Of course its absolutely worthless and you would lose more which is why almost no one bothers (it gets a bit of free hashrate from mixed mining). Bitcoin is going to reach a similar stage, far before the last coin is minted. By the year 2040, or 2090 at most.

Going from 21 million to 42 million doesn't really make much difference, even if most of the coins get lost. Unless you want to answer the ultimate question, but there is some other altcoin names like that... Before you think 21 million bitcoin is too little, try to count that in satoshis. 100 million satoshis make 1 bitcoin, i think even one bitcoin is plenty to go around... It would not get consensus as you naively think, and its not worth forking for that.

Also in the event of a catastrophic drop of hashrate, your little cpu could mine again. Sure, someone would need to update cgminer or an alternative...

Satellites, need fuel to stay in place. They might last long, but not as long as you think. Typical communication geostationary satellites need replacing every 10 years or so because of that (and yeah, they also get bombarded by the Sun's radiation from time to time). Satellites aren't very long lasting, a good LED light can probably outlast a satellite, unless a major discovery in propulsion is made that doesn't use any kind of "thing that runs out" (ie, that infamous EM drive).

Perhaps i would use something on the moon, or Lagrange point. Yeah, its not impossible to think somebody will be able to land the equivalent of a satellite on the moon surface and let it operate from there (The Israelis almost made it, but i guess they had a technical glitch and kinda couldn't stop properly...) I'm sure someone could just put a node with some little hashrate on the surface on the moon, same way they are doing with satellites. It is very unlikely hashrate will ever drop to zero, unless its something that wipes the human race...
2878  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump wants to buy Greenland on: August 25, 2019, 06:52:21 PM
He should buy Greenland, there are so many upsides to a purchase:

1. Military and commercial control of the arctic
2. Resource development/mining and drilling
3. Real-estate development
4. Retail business
5. Transport industry
6. Fishing industry

Mr Trump would like a new golf course and hotel in exotic places, so this would fit point 3. Also with weather patterns changing, Greenland might actually become green (rather than white) so its like a long term investment. Perhaps it would become associated state like Puerto Rico, no voting in congress.
2879  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Amazon Fire on: August 25, 2019, 06:46:33 PM
Well, slash and burn is a traditional farming method so I wouldn't be surprised if it started with a small fire that got out of control. The jungle is hard to clear with just a machete so people would use fire to get rid of most of the vegetation (also the traditional way of harvesting sugarcanes).

I did heard about the conspiracy theories and they range from small to large scale. Small scale is NGOs starting the fire for whatever reason. If reforestation is the org's purpose, of course they'll cease to exist if the are was fully replanted.  Grin

The large scale theories I heard insist this is part of a plan to increase regulations.

Exactly this. I wrote at length at the off-topic section of this very same issue. Brazil has had this policy for a century or more. Brasilia itself is part of this policy, to populate the jungle. And those that go there deforest to farm and build homes. The soil from a jungle is very poor for farming and becomes useless after a few years (3 or so), so then they abandon that patch and burn another one to plant their crops again, so they keep eating little by little but in parallel the whole thing that took mother nature thousands of years to make.

Bolsonaro should point the finger to himself first, and his country. Brazil, unlike her neighbors, has long term State policies that are executed even when the administration changes. And he isn't saying a word about abandoning the area to let nature reclaim it, quite the opposite in fact...

Again, century old policy, there were people warning about this for decades. If the powers of the world feel threatened, go send an UN force and take the land. The corrupt countries that control the Amazon jungle aren't going to do a thing, even if you send them money, it will be all wasted or lost in corruption.
2880  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump made a surprise conference: God chose me to fight the "war" with China on: August 25, 2019, 06:35:47 PM
The only ones that have something to lose from this are the Americans. The Chinese have the entire world left to trade their goods with...

Perhaps a contracted economy will be the only result, and perhaps voters would know better next time. But if they don't after 4 more years its over and gone. Wish other countries had this escape route...
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