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2881  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I know legit and scam investment? on: December 30, 2021, 02:50:06 PM
It is actually hard to find about the scam as you know very well that if one project launch then everyone want to start investing in it and with the passage of time the number of users of that project increases so you cannot find that weather it is scam or not. But if certain project asked for more money then you can realize that it will be scam. In cryptocurrency there are  certain projects that are scam and you invest in these project and lose your capital as you do not know about its scam.
Most of the scam projects are offering rewards that are too good to be true that you end up realizing if this is legit or not. And also at some point, legit projects look like scam too. So if you are not knowledgeable enough and create decision instantly, then you will fall as one of their victims. I think its definitely a must to go in depth with the project and the team behind it if they are really existing or just ghosts. Its also good to trace the history of the project if they have been successful or not in the past.

However, scamming has been rampant these days so you need to avoid it as much as possible. By keeping yourself updated of all the current events and studying the crypto space continuously, and not being greedy to make bigger profits, then there will be less chances for you to be scam.
2882  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin upgraded my financial life on: December 29, 2021, 11:46:36 PM
You are not the only one who experienced that happiness OP, personally I'm also thankful that I know bitcoin as helps me a lot in achieving my financial goal. It always starts from small earning but that is something to be grateful for, small income is betting than nothing, right?

Just continue being more active in the community and in the crypto space, I'm sure the time will come that you'll find more opportunities that could potentially give you more income to lift your financial life.

Happy Holidays and wish you more success and to everyone who is starting their journey here.   
I would attest to that also. Bitcoin is helping us in securing our financial needs and even help us gain financial freedom in the future. Though bitcoin is very much volatile and has higher risk than other types of investments, but when you start gaining advantage from it, you'll definitely find more good opportunities to gain and earn from it if you always focus on it. Bitcoin may mean useless to some people but for us who know its real potentials, i think bitcoin is even worth working for than to focus on our 8 hour day job.
2883  Economy / Economics / Re: Dont just borrow money but for the right reason on: December 29, 2021, 09:31:33 PM

There's nothing wrong with loaning or borrowing but, to be honest, it's better if we'll not borrow funds to expand our assets. Crypto investment is profitable even metaverse but borrowing to invest more has huge risk and might only lead you to regrets in the end. It's better to save before investing so you'll have all the control over your investment without any pressure.
I agree with what you said, it's true that we are free to do anything including borrowing and borrowing.
But if we borrow with the aim of developing assets, even though we are already pros, I think this is still full of risks.
not without reason, because indeed here there is no guarantee that forever we will experience profits because of course there will be times when we will experience losses.
besides that it is better with own assets even with fewer assets but no debt compared to making excessive risk by borrowing funds from other people in the hope of getting a profit. this is not very good.
I think in all types of investments, knowing that they have their own risks, borrowing money is never a good start. Of course, it can expand or widen your assets but if you are entering in a market with no guaranteed profits, then it will only cause pressures and troubles later on thinking where to get the money that you will use to pay. Although crypto gives us huge profits, definitely bigger from other types of investments, but there is no fixed time or date as when to get the profits so paying the debt will mostly be compromised.
with benefits that you don't know for sure will get or not, actually investing using a loan will only make you think extra and your mind will be divided between investing and thinking about how to pay off the money you borrowed.
Of course this will only add to your thinking instead of getting comfortable in investing, things like this will only make you someone who is confused about solving problems.
because when this happens if you don't get a return on investment you will only be able to think about borrowing money back to pay off existing debts. and it will continue until things get worse
This is really possible if you invest in crypto without an assurance when to make profits. In the first  eplace, borrowing money is not really a good thing to do especially that there is always a high risk in cryto investment. When you need to pay your loan and yet, you're not making profits yet, there are always high chances that you will create another loan to cover your first loan, so that will create more stress and pressures on your part and yaou wiill live with it until you become debt free. So now that you see what will happen ahead, then never start engaging in it.
2884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match on: December 27, 2021, 09:46:10 PM
You are right, Ugas is very slow for Errol Spence. The only reason he is in this fight is because he has the belt and he defeated an old Pacman. No offense to Ugas fans here but he is not in the level of Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford but he should be happy that everything falls in his favor, first being the replacement fighter to fight Manny then defeat Manny where after that the money flows. I reckon that this fight would not last the distance as Ugas has no lateral movement.
I think the same way but at the end of the day he is a champion and that is more than enough for us to be interested in the fight even if we think Spence is the favorite to win it all, besides it is likely that Ugas knew this and instead of trying to face a challenger and then lose his title he decided to go for an unification fight thinking that even if he lost he will obtain more money that way, and if there is a rematch clause on the contract then he can get two title fights and receive even more money that way.
Ugas prove his worth that’s why he gain it by defeating Manny and we have to move on from that and accept the fact that he is a champion. Fighting Spence can be a big fight as well and hopefully, no more reason for Spend to cancel this match or else it can really affect his career. Too early to say buy I believe Ugas have the chance here to win agains Spend if this will push through.
He cannot find another excuse to cancel this fight, he already ruined the career of Manny Pacquiao, so he should fight the one who beat Pacquiao. I like Ugas because he is a real man, he even gave Pacquiao a chance for a rematch but the latter decided to retire from boxing, so it's Ugas and Spence now and I'm expecting it to be an exciting fight to watch.
2885  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Ancajas vs Ioka Dec 31 on: December 27, 2021, 09:18:00 PM
Few days for this long fight I have been waiting for to take place. My support goes for ancajas he is a smart fighter with great tactics,  let me just chill and wait to watch the outcome of the fight.
We don't know if it's a long fight since both fighters are capable of knocking out their opponent. Ancajas may have more fans here from the Filipino boxing community, but we have to understand that Ioka is fighting in his country and that's his advantage. Both fighters are really strong since it's unification fight, it's the battle between the best.

Yup, this is an interesting fight as both are belt holders but IMO, Jerwin Ancajas has the advantage as he has fought in the US and other places more than Ioka since the latter mostly fought in his home country but the good thing about this fight for the Japanese is that it would be held in Japan which put some advantage points on Ioka.

For the information of everybody, this fight is going to happen next year as the promoter have postponed the fight due to the emergence of Omicron variant of covid-19 so we have to wait for a few more months before we can see these two face each other.

Yes, I think all the big boxing fights in Japan are canceled or postponed, like the fight of GGG against a Japanese opponent too. Let's wait for the official announcement as to what date it will happen, hopefully we will not have to wait for so long, 1st week next year is enough to wait as the hype is still there.
2886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Gary Russell vs Mark Magsayo WBC Featherweight Title on: December 27, 2021, 08:41:23 PM
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Inoue vs Donaire is a good match if it will happen I think Donaire must focus on training so that he has a chance to win against the king of their division. Inoue must be careful also cause we all know that Donaire is a counter puncher.
Back to the topic about magsayo and Russell yes This is the big fight of Magsayo's career and they must be trained harder. In this fight I will bet magsayo too.


I remember watching Mark Magsayo's fight against Julio Ceja where the former landed a right hard punch on round 10 which sealed the deal and eventually won the entire fight. According to boxrec, Magsayo has an undefeated record of 23 wins. I do think that Gary Russell is a dangerous opponent given his destructive power, size, and speed on the ring.

There was this article that featured Magsayo, stating that this fight might be his biggest so far. Although I do fear for him, I am at full support towards this fight as I do believe that he will eventually come out as the winner at the end.

In a fight like this where a Filipino is a challenger for the championship, it's good to support and put our bet. I guess we all see how Magsayo adjusted in his previous fight, he did not get frustrated although his opponent is leading the scorecard, instead, he finds ways to make a convincing win and that is by knocking out his opponent. So, anything can happen in this fight, he might replicate that kind of victory although his opponent now is a champion.
2887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: December 27, 2021, 08:17:21 PM
There is a lot of money on the Nets, which makes me think this is a trap game.  Nets are without a ton of players too.  Hard to say how the game will go knowing it will basically be a bunch of backups running the floor.  With Durant out I'm actually thinking of taking the Clippers to cover.
I'm glad that you also think it could be a trap, it's quite obvious after they beat the LA Lakers and they are just -3.5 against a PG less Clippers, of course, it will attract a lot of bets and I guess I'm riding without on this thing.
2888  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 27, 2021, 03:19:02 PM
What we saw yesterday was the last game of this year. I hope you guys enjoy the games you watched and I hope also that some of you won your bets.

Next game will be next year January 5, 2022

1st- Magnolia vs Bossing
2nd- Alaska vs Bolts.

https://pba.ph/

Maybe they understand that we have a lot of expenses this holiday season and they don't want to spend it on gambling so they decided to resume next year, LOL. Anyway, I guess Magnolia will continue winning and Blackwater Bossing will continue losing, this is a no brainer, bet on Magnolia to win whatever the point spread is.

I go with you with that, Magnolia have deeper squad and the chance of covering whatever handicap the bookies will provide still good pick for them.
If the spread will start at -10.5, I will definitely take the Magnolia hotshots. I guess that's going to be the lowest spread as Magnolia is a good team, and we saw that when they recently dominated the Ginebra San Miguel.

While with Alaska and Bolts I like to backup the Aces, I want to see them winning and have a good shot in the next round.

Though Bolts is not an easy opponent to beat, I'll check it back it's a long vacation, enjoy the rest of the holidays.. Wink

Both are good teams so it's hard to decide, but I think I'll fade you on this particular game.
Going for Meralco here.  Smiley
2889  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 27, 2021, 01:24:29 PM
What we saw yesterday was the last game of this year. I hope you guys enjoy the games you watched and I hope also that some of you won your bets.

Next game will be next year January 5, 2022

1st- Magnolia vs Bossing
2nd- Alaska vs Bolts.

https://pba.ph/

Maybe they understand that we have a lot of expenses this holiday season and they don't want to spend it on gambling so they decided to resume next year, LOL. Anyway, I guess Magnolia will continue winning and Blackwater Bossing will continue losing, this is a no brainer, bet on Magnolia to win whatever the point spread is.
2890  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Ancajas vs Ioka Dec 31 on: December 27, 2021, 12:47:37 PM


https://sports.inquirer.net/442761/jerwin-ancajas-set-for-new-years-eve-unification-vs-kazuto-ioka-in-tokyo

It's now official Philippines Jerwin Ancajas will fight Japanese Kazuto Ioka for unification of their IBF and WBO crown.

Ancajas, one of Philippines longest reigning champion, will go for his 10th title defense of his IBF. So this will big as we will have to witnessed another Filipino boxer before the end of the year with Ancajas going to Japan and fight Ioka.

Every match had his own strategy towards the game. Once the game was defence by the player. It was very hard to made a win win against him. Because defence game of boxing is best one compared to other.

Ancajas is a problem man.  Smart ass fighter with power and great body shots.  I honestly think he can beat the top fighters in the lighter weights:  Chocolatito, Estrada, and Inoue. The future of boxing os in good hands with fighters like Ancajas, Davis, and Ryan Garcia.

Though I support Filipino boxers I don't think Ancajas is strong enough to beat the names you mentioned, especially Inoue. I guess we can take one step at a time, if Ancajas will beat Ioka, then we can talk on his possible match, maybe one of the names you mentioned.
2891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 on: December 27, 2021, 12:15:47 PM

That's right, betting has to be taken seriously because we are risking money, there are fights that we choose to watch only but would not put our bet because we are not confident with our prediction or we just don't see the value for us to win. For me, this is a big fight and I will never miss watching this and I'm surely gonna put my bet. As I am impressed with Thurman's performance against pacquioa although he lose, so I would put my bet on him to win this fight.

And as a bettor, it is our responsibility to carefully assess the fighter that we will be going to put our bets on because we are totally taking the risk of putting our money in the hand of a fighter if he wins then you will also gonna win. With regards to the upcoming fight of Thurman vs. Barrios, referring to their fight record and base on their fight experiences I believe that both are capable to put each other into a knock-out win. Both are also has a single loss, this will be a challenging fight for the two fighters but at this time I will going to favor on Thurman's side.


I guess the majority of us here would go for Thurman to win this fight. For me, if Thurman was not inactive after his fight with Pacquiao, he would definitely not gonna go down hard in ranking, so this is his chance to come back and be a good challenger to the champions. So without a doubt, no changing of mind, I'm with Thurman 100% to win.

Yes mate, as I have said in the beginning of the thread, Thurman even if inactive for more than two years, still is being rank very high even in the top 3 or top 4 in the rankings.

And so when he decided to fight again, he will be the heavy favoured against an inexperience Barrios at this weight category. So yes, based on the comments, no doubt that Thurman is most likely to win the fight with a knock out.

I am also leaning on Thurman to win by KO here, Pacquiao himself admitted during the post-fight interview that Thurman is a heavy puncher, and he was really hurt during the fight, so most likely, if Barrios is not as fast as Pacquiao, he might easily get caught by the power punches of Thurman and this fight will not last longer.
2892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SHIBA Fever on: December 26, 2021, 10:24:02 PM
The market has been flooded with SHIB fake projects and I hope people could find the right one, and not fall into this group of clone projects.
I can't really imagine seeing these numbers, 66? It is probably there are more to come in a few days from now. What I think is that we need to have some regulations to combat this kind of activities, were not making them fully stop but at least we are trying to minimize them and not to ruin the image of the market as this could lead to that particular once tolerated.

Even their is many shiba,Shiba inu is the unique one.You can inverse your money.Because the project accepted by many investors.Specially the new traders.But i had 10 million of shiba in my wallet over  months.But the price pumped after the shiba inu was sold.It make some disappointed to me and I had lost the chance of winning.
All of them are clones or copies of another concepts, including the one you mentioned as the original Shiba Inu, because it's a blatant attempt to take advantage of the Doge hype. As we can see Shiba developers even copy the dog logo from Doge and the pseudonym style of bitcoin creator, but instead of Satoshi, Shiba creator nickname is Ryoshi.

And now they plagiarize Binance and Uniswap as well. Cheesy
You're right. The whole thing about Shiba are just clones. Even Shiba Inu is a great parody of dogecoin. But instead of seeing them as shitcoins, but why do these people are even making profits from it? There is good community that is behind Shiba so every time correction happens, its value does not totally fall down. And i think once this whole market recovers, Shiba will also be profitable again. But nevertheless, bitcoin will always on top of it as Shiba and Dogecoin are just temporarily hyped.
2893  Economy / Economics / Re: Robert Kiyosaki expects a market crash and economic crisis - do you believe it? on: December 26, 2021, 07:20:52 PM
Also, he said that he plans to buy gold, bitcoin, and real estate when the price goes down. Mr. Robert Kiyosaki is a prominent investor who has a net worth of more than 100 million dollars and also a supporter of bitcoin.
Well, to start with, I didn't even think a lot of people know him as an investor. He's very popular for his books on wealth creation and I think he's better off that way. Write books and stick to them; it necessary doesn't mean because one wrote a book on economy that one will be most proficient at running a business. If it were so, the richest people on earth would be Professors of Economics. I'm of the opinion that the forecast by the Rich Dad Poor Dad author is an "either" thing. It could be or not be. However, if it doesn't come to past you won't get him owing up to it. They only do loud it once their predictions come to past like African pastors do.

To be honest, I don't see a repeat of the 2008 financial meltdown in 2022 especially now that Bitcoin and cryptos are here.
I do believe too that what we have this 2022 will be another story and history will never be repeated again. Crypto is very much different these days because it has improved a lot and massive adoption is slowly taking place. While in 2008, crypto is not that popular and even big institutions are not yet aware that bitcoin and the rest of cryptos are real and existing. But of course, having a market crash is inevitable but it won't be totally the same like what we had in 2008.
2894  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Elon Musk once again throwing shade at bitcoin on: December 26, 2021, 06:46:46 PM
Looks like he thinks he still has that power to shake the price in the market when it's all nothing now when he says something about bitcoin. Looks like this guy wanted to promote his nonsense coin by tweeting those simple words yet enough to give Doge a pump in short days. Just like the other celebrities or influencers who always criticized bitcoins, this guy too is nothing but nonsense who doesn't need the attention of the real investors because all he does is talk about things that haven't even been proven or not the actual fact.
People give Elon Musk power and market makers abuse tweets of Elon Musk to play their pump and dump games. We can not verify that whether Elon Musk has investments in meme coins he tweets about.

It is very easy to understand and explain that he tweets about them because he has investments with them. However eve he does not have such investment, market makers will do wisely and fastly enough to take advantage of his tweets to trigger their games.

It is like Omicron, does the variant has anything to do with Omicron in crypto market? It does not but fact is, we have massive pump and dump game with Omicron.
It is possible that he may still own meme coins such as Doge and Shiba. If he doesn't, it's probably another mere attempt to troll users into buying worthless coins and dumping them shortly after. On the other hand, I'm not quite sure that he has that much of an influence in the market anymore. He definitely used to have a lot, but people stopped following him after the Dogecoin incident.
Elon might be a great influencer in the past, but this time people have become smarter and learn to hate Elon  because of his own wrong doings. So even if he keeps on tweeting again on dogecoin, or throw shades at bitcoin, people will not be affected anymore as they realized that Elon did the whole thing just to hype the meme coin and when he thinks he made profits on his own, that's the time when he stops shilling dogecoin and its value started to fall back. I guess people have been traumatized about this and decide not to trust Elon again.
2895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 on: December 26, 2021, 05:59:58 AM
I was looking for the betting odds but seems like it's still not up this early.
By next month probably the odds will be available, and I expect that Thurman will be the heavy favorite to win. He is inactive for more than 2 years but I still believe he still have the skills to win, as long as he consider his upcoming a serious fight and he will train hard, for sure he will get a convincing win.
2896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: December 26, 2021, 05:30:14 AM
Another good parlay win:



Bucks vs Celtics is really a cliff hanger, and I can't really cheer for anyone because of my bet, Lol.

When Celtics are ahead by huge margin, I was with them, but when the Bucks are making a run, I cheer for them that they will win with less than 7 points.  Grin

Congrats Dave1.

Both picks are good! Celtics managed to close the game, first half was so great but coming 2nd half,

Buck's stars are very aggressive, very tough for Boston to handle, just good to see them to really not to allow Bucks to pullover
and win the game with huge margins.

While with your knicks that's an easy one very balance productions,..

I was even thinking that the Celtics would be able to win the game as they have lead the game with a good margin, but Bucks are really strong, they know how to come back and win the game, but good thing Dave1 played it smartly, a handicap saves that parlay. Congrats.

How about the Lakers game? anyone bet on LA?
2897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 26, 2021, 04:50:15 AM

Unfortunately, I didn't make it to watch live. The reason is a strong hangover due to a drinking session after Noche Buena. We got finished drinking after lunch on the 25th. Damn, until now as I'm posting this, still not feeling well.

Also didn't able to watch it on a Livestream. As I checked the result, Magnolia now finally end their losing streak in the Christmas game match-up against Brgy. Ginebra. Watching the highlights, Magnolia is draining shots even contested contrary to what is happening on the Ginebra side.

The majority of Ginebra's key players do have the worst shooting night except for Tolentine. Expecting Coach Tim to just always include this guy on their starting lineup.

I'm glad to hear you are having a good time in Christmas, when I was younger, I do that kind of thing but now that I'm in medication, can't do that kind of stuff, expect watching the PBA live. It was fun though Ginebra lost, at least we see some teams that are more competitive this conference and has a shot to beat the top favorites.
2898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Do you know any meme coin that could be shiba or doge? on: December 25, 2021, 11:41:25 PM
No. I don't know what meme coins will be worth or have value in the future other than Dogecoin. It's possible that Shiba Inu will experience something like what happened to Dogecoin even though it won't necessarily happen to Shiba Inu. I myself believe in NFT more than coin meme.
on the other hand there are still many ways to make money with minimal risk, why do things that have happened make people crazy about shiba meme coins who expect prices to soar high, no meme coin lives long term mostly, for me now avoiding memes is still there is another good way.?
There is nothing wrong with people who go crazy over meme coins hoping the price will soar because they have analyzed it themselves and in their own way. But I'm not interested in getting a price advantage by waiting for years. Moreover, it has been waiting for years in the end it is not achieved either. It is better to choose other real assets outside of crypto assets.
They believe on meme tokens, maybe they are into a fast profit hoping for them to become rich easily and that’s why they took such risk without any hesitation. I also don’t see any future with meme tokens aside from the hype, I will always go for the good projects if its about holding, and I think there is no new meme token yet that are not related to SHIB and DE, they are all looks the same.
It's too risky I think if we choose meme coins to hold and it's not recommended for that,
it's true what you said that talking about holding back is probably best to look for projects that have potential
Right. If we don't want to lose huge amount of funds, then we should not risk our capital investing in meme coins. I think we have lots of potential coins to choose that will be more valuable in the future, and not just merely investing in those no real life purpose coins. Although others are making profits from memes, but still majority end up losing from having them as investments.
2899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bull or Bear Market? on: December 25, 2021, 11:25:02 PM
Let's say if next will be bear market, how dip it could possibly go before bouncing?
Because on a previous bear market, we saw more than 60% drop from All-time-high of 2017-2018, and for quite a time, we experienced bear market and huge drop, and high volatile.
So, this time it could be more different? That's for me, it does not matter to me if ever we will experience a bear market anymore because I don't believe we will experience again more than 60% drop as the market is slowly growing, volume is increasing.
For me, there is nothing new with this market, there's always its bulls and its bears that we should expect to happen. What we have at the moment is a short correction that may end up having a bearish trend next to it, or bitcoin will recover and we'll witness another bull run. So whatever the seson may be, the fact that we have bought potential coins to hold in the present correction, then there's nothing to worry as we are not going to sell them if we'll end up only losing.
2900  Economy / Economics / Re: Preparing for the future. on: December 25, 2021, 09:55:50 PM
How I can prepare for the future if I do not know what will happen to me tomorrow. Actually, in my observation, we should make our present life and future is the mirror of our present life. If you have done the right thing today your future will be shiny and amazing. So building your today is basically building your tomorrow.

The list you provided is highly demandable today also and I am also kind of love to have coding skills. I do try for quite some time but for the lack of proper guidance, I am still learning how to code. It's not that easy as many think it is.
We really don't know what will happen in the future. but in this context I don't think it's asking something that will happen, but what you want to do in the future. For example, what kind of life we want in old age.
In principle, everyone must have a goal or desire, and that goal must be prepared in order to achieve it.
Basically everyone wants to have a good future and as expected,
but not everyone can fulfill what they expect in the future because after all to prepare for the future we need to try and work hard,
It's clear that everyone has their own way
Its more on a positive mindset that we get to think how to motivate us to go on forward. If we chose to prepare for the future, hardwork and perseverance is highly needed. And be able to enhance our talent and skills to be usable and profitable in the future. However, if we chose the other way, then don't expect that same results will happen in the end.
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