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2881  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some people say Bitcoin and Crypto will disappear from the market, is it really? on: August 03, 2018, 01:28:26 AM
For now, bitcoin will not disappear from the market because bitcoin dont have competitor. But in the future, bitcoin might disappear because as what we can see, the technology is upgrading day by day, as the technology upgrades, many opportunities will come, so its possible that someone might created bitcoin competitor in the future, and that might be the end of bitcoin.
There are many coins already with "better tech" and much faster confirmations, but people simply don't care about them. In this industry it's all about first mover advantage, and Bitcoin has exactly that.

Bitcoin is also going through the necessary upgrades. SegWit is a very important first step, where the next step is to have the lightning network rolled out. It's just a matter of time and it will spark adoption even further.

Great thing about current time is that people aren't using crypto as actual currencies, which means that Bitcoin has enough time to scale towards mass usage by second layer technology.
2882  Economy / Economics / Re: The real estate bubble on: August 03, 2018, 01:02:48 AM
In my country, the older buildings are deliberately devalued, and most of the people buy it, but only to find out that the building will be soon collapsed by a bulldozer.
I remember a similar case here, but with someone who just didn't want to leave, and rightfully so. Eventually that person got paid what he wanted for his property and left to see how it later was reduced to dust.

It was far more expensive and time consuming to get that person to leave through a legal battle, so they went with the easiest option. As last person standing you can achieve quite a lot if you don't let them scare you off.

I'm however not sure how friendly the situation would be dealt with in Asia and Africa. People's rights there are of less value and you probably lose more by playing hard game if you're unwanted.
2883  Economy / Speculation / Re: CAN BITCOIN EVER PASS THE LAST ATH? on: August 03, 2018, 12:32:24 AM
After the dip from 100k to 40k people will ask the same question.
That will be a brutal dip. Imagine someone buying 1BTC with his life savings for $100,000 and it drops 60% in a matter of months.

Technically it's the same as when people buy Bitcoin right now with $100,000 and it drops 60% in value, but psychologically a 60% drop meaning 1BTC loses $60,000 is different from 1BTC losing $6000 with a 60% drop at current levels.

On the other hand, if institutions gain an upper hand in this market, we may not even see corrections of that magnitude anymore. It's very likely that we'll see exchanges enforce stock market security measures.

One way or another, the market will change, and if it becomes more stable due to these changes, it's a great step forward to make Bitcoin even more usable as a currency. Stability is key.
2884  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is anticipated to raise $10,000 sooner on: August 02, 2018, 11:40:44 PM
And if the ETF is rejected, you can say goodbye to the $10,000, Bitcoin may go as low as $6,000
If that happens and we again break the $6000 mark, we will test $5000 shortly after. It will then look exactly like how the market corrected after the bull run in 2013. The similarities grow stronger every month.

The bull run of 2013 peaked over $1000 and bottomed out at $150. The bull run of 2017 peaked at $20,000 and may bottom out at $3000. This obviously is assuming it will follow the same path.

$5000 seems realistic with an ETF rejection and I'll happily buy that level. I'll probably buy it pretty hard instead of being conservative. We may not get another opportunity so we better make the best out of it.
2885  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is there any reason to day trade anything other than bitcoin? on: August 02, 2018, 10:53:01 PM
I have seen various professional traders state that it doesn't matter what asset or stock you day trade, the only thing that matters are the fluctuations, which is something I do agree with.

Overall, bots don't care what altcoin you are trading, so why would manual traders care? It's clear that when it comes to altcoins the worst coins without any idea behind them perform the best in terms of profitability.

One moment people are focusing on Litecoin for example, then directly hop over to Dash because there is more action happening, and more action means more potential profits.

Altcoins are preferred for day trading purposes because of how you can still bank on them with a small balance. If you lose a few % then so be it because you'll move to another coin to try your luck there.
2886  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Yobit BTG withdraw! on: August 02, 2018, 02:40:58 PM
Does anybody know when BTG will be available for withdrawal operations on Yobit??!! How long should I wait to withdraw it??! Sad Angry
Assist asap, please  Embarrassed
No one but Yobit itself knows. Positive sign however is that 7 hours ago BTG tweeted that Bittrex allows BTG deposits and withdrawals again. It means that the network is safe enough for exchanges to work with.

If Bittrex can do it, then an utter garbage exchange with far less to lose can do it too. I don't believe that Yobit will keep the coins, so no one has to worry about its coins to be stolen. People just need patience.
2887  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-08-01] At What Level Do Institutional Buyers Join The Bitcoin Rally? on: August 01, 2018, 11:42:57 PM
Institutions will enter silently without anyone here having a clue about what and when things happened. I however hope for people that institutional influence doesn't hit the market with full force.

The higher the price is the less incentive retailers have to buy it. Owning a whole unit of something is psychologically very important regardless of the value we're talking about.

People aren't interested in owning a small piece of a cake, they want the whole cake. There was also discussion on having the Amazon stock ($1800 per share) split up to allow retail money to flow in that stock.

Not sure if it will happen, but it's definitely interesting to follow.
2888  Economy / Economics / Re: G20 releases official statement on cryptocurrency on: August 01, 2018, 10:44:58 PM
Generally, I don't trust these people, no matter what they say.
Bitcoin offers you the ability to hedge their overall reach, which is the only thing that matters for me. People are afraid of governments, but we shouldn't forget that governments are more afraid of Bitcoin.

The last thing they want to do is push people away from them, so they have no other choice but to embrace it or at least tolerate its existence in a way that it isn't limiting people too much.

The only thing I hope for is that they take the time to understand what this whole industry is about, because maintaining a healthy relationship with regulators is a great benefit instead of a disadvantage.
2889  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Payment Processors on: August 01, 2018, 01:32:02 PM
BTCpay Server does exactly that but it means you have to rent a server and then sync the whole Bitcoin blockchain. This will cost maybe less than $10 a month from AWS or Digital Ocean but at least merchants get to keep 100% of the received funds for themselves just as Satoshi would have wanted.
One way or another the coins merchants generate from sales have to be sold to reduce the risks the volatility exposes them to. Merchants need to have a constant flow of liquidity in fiat to operate.

It's practically impossible to completely discard a central entity in the process. Only when merchants can restock themselves and pay their rent and all with Bitcoin they might not have to convert anything to fiat anymore.

That's however not the case right now. I obviously hope that we'll reach that stage later on, but don't count on it. I'm already happy that more and more merchants accept Bitcoin, which is good enough for now.
2890  Economy / Speculation / Re: My prediction on: August 01, 2018, 01:00:55 PM
You can trust prediction but it was better to conduct your own research in order to get legitimate information about the cryptocurrency price in the future.
Firstly, you can't trust any prediction. Secondly, there is no such a thing as 'legitimate information' when it comes to the crypto world. Every detail is highly speculative and not worthy of relying on.

If even the traditional experts who really know their own game can't predict the movements of this market, then how are noobs not knowing anything supposed to conduct proper research? It's impossible.

If noobs focused more on hodling than trading worthless trash coins they wouldn't keep losing their capital. In stock markets 90% of the traders are losers, which is probably even worse here.
2891  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we finally see some good movement in price for Bitcoin on: August 01, 2018, 12:10:17 PM
Well, look at the price of Bitcoin today compared to the price of Bitcoin yesterday, change happened when we entered August. Is this because we entered the ghost month that Chinese and other Asian countries observe in the month of August and may last until mid of September. Last year, Alts suffered a lot when ghost month started, it red all over as the Chinese and other Asians who observe this festival and stop making business deals or other business decisions.
It's a healthy correction combined with a mild ETF rejection hangover. If you see the price go up from below $6000 to over $8000 in a short period of time, then know that some traders will secure profits.

Who doesn't want to secure a proper 30-40% increase? I'm not a short term trader, but if I was I would have gone for it. With the Vaneck ETF still in the game the price will rise again.

I just hope that the SEC won't yet again delay their decision. I rather see them reject it right away so the market can get rid of the ETF speculation that's baked in the price currently.
2892  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Margin trading on Bitmex, should play or not? on: August 01, 2018, 12:56:19 AM
Yeah cryptos are risky enough.  Crypto + margin seems like a recipe for disaster.  I am already managing to loose all my money in alts without margin.  Couldn't imagine how fast I would lose with it.
Well, technically you don't lose anything if you don't sell any of your coins below your buying price. As long as you don't buy into shitcoins you should be able to recover with patience because the long term trend is always up.

BitMEX is pure gambling since you can lose all your coins, which happens quite frequently. People don't realize how dangerous 50x or even 100x leverage is. With 100x leverage you can lose everything in a matter of seconds.

On the other hand, people need to lose money in order to realize they did something stupid. If you do stupid things and get rewarded for it anyway, you'll never learn that there are severe risks involved.
2893  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Sky Mining CEO Disappears With $35 Million on: July 31, 2018, 11:49:19 PM
What I'm really intrigued is, why do the rest of team except the CEO are playing the victim card? Do they really not know anything?  Huh
They have no choice but to act like they don't know anything. If they are found guilty of participating in an obvious scheme their careers are over. The only thing they can do is hope for mercy.

Overall, people need to ask themselves how this all happens. Is it the fault of this scheme? I don't think so. It's the fault of people themselves, because they solely are responsible for creating this demand.

Without people creating demand for schemes there won't be any schemes. People's greed never fails to surprise me, which is quite pathetic if you think you have seen the worst already.
2894  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-07-28] Giant Bitcoin Merchant Bank Posts Losses Over $130 Million on: July 31, 2018, 11:09:03 PM
I think he has all the rights to be bullish
there could be growth similar to the last year's:July last year the price was about 2500$
by September it doubled and we all know what happened December-January
the same scenario could repeat this year,ETF or no ETF
Technically it's possible, but it's highly unlikely considering that bull runs that significant never follow each other up that quickly. The market needs to get rid of the circulating supply before it can properly recover.

The power of last year's mega increase was that no one expected it and for that reason were forced to fomo all the way up. Currently that's completely different with how people are ready for it.

People being ready means that they are ready to sell if we go up high enough reaching their target price. Reaching the $10,000 mark will be the main target this year, which requires a great deal of momentum.
2895  Economy / Economics / Re: We are still into flushing out weak hands! on: July 31, 2018, 09:40:05 PM
I wouldn't put too much confidence in that Forbes article to conclude that the ETF next month will not be rejected. The overall market has been maturing somewhat, but it's still a shitshow mostly and thus poses too much risks.

The only aspect giving me some confidence is that CBOE is trying to get it through just as hard as Vaneck and SolidX. That's directly why other ETF's by default don't stand a chance.

The Winklevoss ETF has turned out to be a wasted effort. In all the time they had there hasn't been one fundamental change that could have granted them higher odds of approval. They have only themselves to blame for.
2896  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Do people have to pay taxes on Bitcoin? on: July 31, 2018, 02:36:59 PM
Most countries haven't assessed it yet that they can tax bitcoin but it will come so why they aren't doing it, enjoy.
May I ask how old you are? I'm asking this because if you have ever paid tax, you know that there isn't anything in the world the government can't tax you for. Even if it concerns your shoelaces, taxation applies.

I however do believe that governments will rewrite certain areas of their tax brackets to make it easier for average joes to understand. Even the people buying and selling Bitcoin in 2011 we're legally obliged to pay tax.

Most of them probably didn't bother to pay tax, which is entirely up to them and perfectly understandable, but there is just no way to get around it. The government is everywhere with their taxes.
2897  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-07-31] Vitalik Buterin Thinks There Is Too Much Fuss About Bitcoin ETFs on: July 31, 2018, 07:21:42 AM
I hope that the SEC keeps rejecting all the ETFs throughout the years. Yes, the price will go down but if the increase in price is solely related to an ETF then we simply don't deserve that growth.

Institutional adoption happens way too fast, which is great for those interested in the price alone, but not for those interested in actual usage taking place. We'll see where it goes from here but I'm not convinced.

If we today for the first time would have reached an all time high of $3000 we wouldn't see any of the current craze and mainstream media hyping. $20,000 should have been reached somewhere in 2020 or later.
2898  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Bull Run Over? Mati Greenspan Reveals a Shocking Analysis on: July 30, 2018, 03:35:25 PM
What I see as the most important is the advantage of the scenario that happen last week no matter how short-lived it was. It once again rejuvenate hope in the heart of those that have lost it, hope for those who are the brink of dumping and cutting their losses, hope to those who have given up till the future as to when they can come back to check how things are doing and lessons to those who just decided to dump just few days to the beginning of the run and that is the take out which I am expected to be sustained considering the good recent happenings related to crypto.
I get your point, but what you are describing hints at people who shouldn't have invested in Bitcoin in the first place. These people are clearly not made to expose themselves to the hostile nature of this market.

People tend to see this market as a joke or a fun side hobby that could pay off big time, but it's not and it won't because of people's ignorance. Markets don't go up endlessly, which is something they don't understand.

Overall, whether average joes are bag holding or buying high selling low, they'll lose anyway. It happens in almost every market already, where crypto as always is even more extreme with weeding out weak hands.
2899  Economy / Speculation / Re: ETF approving in August, how much will affect the price? on: July 30, 2018, 02:46:18 PM
I just hope SEC will not make a negative decision at the first deadline in August, it would most likely have a negative impact on market - but I am not sure that such decision can shake up market to drop under 5000$.
On one side I'm quite happy with these financial instruments, and on the other side I would prefer them to not exist at all.

The positive side of having these instruments is that it grants Bitcoin legitimacy, which is a very important factor when it comes to shaking off altcoins that are slowly catching up due to people's stupidity.

The negative side is that it will turn Bitcoin into a market controlled by institutions just like how they control the prices of stocks and other assets. Bitcoin has grown too large to not be noticed by institutions.

Overall, with or without an ETF, the price will break new highs later on anyway. It only requires a bit more patience.
2900  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kim Kardashian promoting Bitcoin on instagram. During Poker Game. on: July 30, 2018, 01:20:57 AM
Lovely. Now we will get a whole bundle of inexperienced people into the crypto world, who join before doing any research because a reality star talked about it
My thought exactly. The industry has been infested with get rich quick noobs and we definitely don't need more of them. I rather see them flow into altcoins and put their money to waste there.

Bitcoin seems to be less attractive for noobs and I actually like it. Most of the people investing in Bitcoin do it for the long term or they use it as store of value. The rest has left to altcoins hoping for better returns.

I remember how people here were excited to see celebrities promote Bitcoin, while now rightfully don't like to see it happen. Bitcoin is not a statement of luxury and shouldn't ever become that.
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